Once we get Lucene moved over, maybe we can get the hsql project moved to
Jakarta also. It would be a huge step forward for data management on
Jakarta.

-david

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Project idea
>
>
>
> Here are more points to consider when evaluating canidates
> and when defining the project goals:
>
> * 100% Java (of course)
> * Copyright clearance (including any required third party components)
> * Supports both server/multi-clients mode and embedded configuration
> * Reasonable performance and scalability
> * Transactional
> * Flexible data storage (not too restrictive limitation on row and cell
> sizes).
> * Easy migration to/from popular data bases
>
>
> You can find a list of existing Java data bases at
> http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programming/Languages/Java/Database-Related/
> (I found it following Mike Dougherty's pointers, thanks Mike).
>
> Tal
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cory L Hubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 3:04 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Project idea
> >
> >
> >     I think it's time for it as well.   Oracle, DB2, Sybase are
> > planning on
> > cashing in even bigger now.   The .com crazy is over and people
> > are going to
> > start to develop and market information rich websites and services that
> > reach out to cell phones/PDA's etc.
> >
> >     There hasn't been much innovation going on in the
> > Relational DB world.
> > It'd be nice to see an Open Source project catch up, innovate, and
> > outperform the Big Name DB vendors.
> >     An Open Source java DB by a trusted Open Source Name
> > (Apache) would allow
> > anyone to have a high end database solution without being a big
> > money making
> > enterprise.
> >
> >     Obviously I think this is a good idea.   Why don't we
> > create a list for
> > Open Source DB's to evaluate?  Also some criteria.
> >     I've already mentioned.
> >
> >     1. Object or Object/Relational DB.
> >     2. Support for SQL/OQL
> >     3. Support for the SUN JDO spec.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Duddleston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:58 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Project idea
> >
> >
> >
> > There is a pretty good Java SQL Relational DB called Mckoi, but the darn
> > thing is GPL and I have sent about 6 emails trying to get them to
> > change the
> > license to an ASL or equivalent, but I have had no luck. They won't even
> > change to LGPL.
> >
> > hsql Database on sourceforge has a good license and works well for small
> > projects, but I don't know if I would trust it for anything important.
> > Hopefully it will pick up some momentum.
> >
> > I know Jetspeed (a Jakarta project) uses Hypersonic SQL (now hsql
> > Database),
> > or at least used it the last time I check which was a long time
> > ago. I would
> > love to see a solid Java RDBMS under a business friendly license. Maybe
> > someday ;-)
> >
> > -david
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:11 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Project idea
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java
> > > relational data base ?
> > >
> > > If not, a project like that will be a great
> > > addition to the Jakarta family.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tal
> > >
> > >
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