Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-10 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 01:17, Alec Warner wrote:
 Please don't commit files to profiles/ unless it has been discussed
 previously on this ML.  I don't care if your file is insignificant or
 'won't affect anything else' or that it's 'completely necessary'.  Please
 discuss it first.

Surely you don't include package.mask, use.local.dec in that list do you?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Roy Marples wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 May 2006 01:17, Alec Warner wrote:
 Please don't commit files to profiles/ unless it has been discussed
 previously on this ML.  I don't care if your file is insignificant or
 'won't affect anything else' or that it's 'completely necessary'.  Please
 discuss it first.
 
 Surely you don't include package.mask, use.local.dec in that list do you?

There's a different between commit files and commit to files -- the
first has an implied new =)

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Stephen Bennett wrote:
 On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:27:45 -0700
 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Then again, I'm missing context because people have this weird thing
 about abstractly bringing up issues without discussing the actual
 problem.
 
 The context is that I added profiles/repo_name to the tree ~5 days ago,
 in order to properly take advantage of functionality available in a
 certain package available in the tree (sys-apps/paludis). It's 7 bytes
 and doesn't adversely affect anything, so I didn't deem it particularly
 worth making a fuss about.

Stephen, thanks for this useful clarification. As far as I know, every
file in profiles/ is used by Gentoo's package manager or QA tools.
Changing that by adding a file used by something other than
portage/repoman is a policy change. It also may turn out that portage
itself could make use of a similar file to what you're adding for
paludis, so discussion with at least the portage team would be merited.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer wanted for sys-auth/pam_mysql

2006-05-10 Thread Francesco Riosa

Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen wrote:
sys-auth/pam_mysql is without an active maintainer and has an open security bug 
#120842


https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120842

Anyone willing to take care of this package in the future, please update 
metadata/herd info and CC yourself on the bug.




pam-mysql 0.7RC1 added to the tree, the package now belong to the 
mysql herd, still need to look in depth at the patches 
pam_mysql-0.6_md5_openssl.patch and pam_mysql-0.6_md5_sasl2.patch, 
these, temporary have _not_ been applyed.


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[gentoo-dev] GUADEC 2006

2006-05-10 Thread Daniel Drake

http://guadec.org/GUADEC2006

Anyone going? Anyone staying in the GNOME village?

I'll be there, with a friend.

Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 May 2006 00:07:29 -0700 Donnie Berkholz
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| so discussion with at least the portage team would be merited.

Already happened, in amongst all the other GLEP 42 stuff.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GUADEC 2006

2006-05-10 Thread Andreas Proschofsky
I'm going, already booked

bye
Andreas

On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 11:59 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote:
 http://guadec.org/GUADEC2006
 
 Anyone going? Anyone staying in the GNOME village?
 
 I'll be there, with a friend.
 
 Daniel
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[gentoo-dev] OpenAL/freealut in portage

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
As many of you might have noticed, the old openal CVS snapshots have
been replaced with upstream's official openal-0.0.8 release.  The only
problem is that the alut stuff that was in openal (under Linux only) has
been split out into a new package.  Because of this, some packages
require some work before they can be moved to using the new split
openal/freealut packages.  I have unmasked openal-0.0.8 and freealut,
but the current best version in stable is still 20050504-r1, which has
the integrated alut.

Why am I telling you all of this?

Simple.  I am trying to get every package in the tree to actually work
with the newer (0.0.8) openal, so I can remove the old CVS snapshots.
If you're willing to help (this means patches), then feel free to mask
=media-libs/openal-200* locally and start merging packages that depend
on openal.  A common problem you will see is this:

AL/alut.h: No such file or directory

This, of course, means that the package expects to use alut, so the
simplest solution is to try to add media-libs/freealut to DEPEND and
merge again.  In some cases, this will work.  Otherwise, a patch will
still be needed to get the package to work with the split
openal/freealut ebuilds.  Please file bugs, with the patches, and make
sure that they block bug #132826, which is my tracker bug for these
issues.  Please refrain from filing bugs on things that are broken
without a patch, as I have a list of the packages that depend on openal
already and am going through them one by one, so a bug report in this
case isn't beneficial without patches to resolve the problem.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 00:55 -0400, Curtis Napier wrote:
 Grant Goodyear wrote:
  Curtis Napier wrote: [Tue May 09 2006, 09:49:27PM CDT]
  Larry our wonderful mascot is from a font collection that we DO NOT OWN
  THE COPYRIGHT TOO. Our esteemed ex-architect STOLE Larry. Legally
  speaking we have no rights to use Larry whatsoever and if the owner of
  the copyright ever stumbles onto gentoo.org and sees it we are looking
  at a big fat lawsuit.
  
  Both Jon and I (separately) addressed this earlier, but I'm pretty sure
  that although we don't own the copyright to Larry, the font it is from
  has a license that allows us to use it freely.  If you have evidence to
  the contrary, please let me know, and I'll see what I can do to obtain
  any necessary rights.
  
  -g2boojum-
 
 I don't see a license for it anywhere. If we have a copy it would
 probably be best to have it somewhere easily accessible. Putting it in
 the images directory on the website makes sense.

I have a copy of the font.

It is ©2000 Ethan Dunham ‐ Fonthead Design ‐ http://www.fonthead.com

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GUADEC 2006

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 11:59 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote:
 http://guadec.org/GUADEC2006
 
 Anyone going? Anyone staying in the GNOME village?
 
 I'll be there, with a friend.

Please contact me off-list so I can get some information added about
this to the Gentoo Events page.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 09:32 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 00:55 -0400, Curtis Napier wrote:
  Grant Goodyear wrote:
   Curtis Napier wrote: [Tue May 09 2006, 09:49:27PM CDT]
   Larry our wonderful mascot is from a font collection that we DO NOT OWN
   THE COPYRIGHT TOO. Our esteemed ex-architect STOLE Larry. Legally
   speaking we have no rights to use Larry whatsoever and if the owner of
   the copyright ever stumbles onto gentoo.org and sees it we are looking
   at a big fat lawsuit.
   
   Both Jon and I (separately) addressed this earlier, but I'm pretty sure
   that although we don't own the copyright to Larry, the font it is from
   has a license that allows us to use it freely.  If you have evidence to
   the contrary, please let me know, and I'll see what I can do to obtain
   any necessary rights.
   
   -g2boojum-
  
  I don't see a license for it anywhere. If we have a copy it would
  probably be best to have it somewhere easily accessible. Putting it in
  the images directory on the website makes sense.
 
 I have a copy of the font.
 
 It is ©2000 Ethan Dunham ‐ Fonthead Design ‐ http://www.fonthead.com

I guess I should have mentioned that the font heads font is listed
under their freeware page.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Wed May 10 2006, 08:32:01AM CDT]
 I have a copy of the font.
 
 It is ©2000 Ethan Dunham ‐ Fonthead Design ‐ http://www.fonthead.com

Thanks!  Okay, it's part of their freeware font font heads.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-10 Thread Xavier Neys
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 00:55 -0400, Curtis Napier wrote:
 Grant Goodyear wrote:
 Curtis Napier wrote: [Tue May 09 2006, 09:49:27PM CDT]
 Larry our wonderful mascot is from a font collection that we DO NOT OWN
 THE COPYRIGHT TOO. Our esteemed ex-architect STOLE Larry. Legally
 speaking we have no rights to use Larry whatsoever and if the owner of
 the copyright ever stumbles onto gentoo.org and sees it we are looking
 at a big fat lawsuit.
 Both Jon and I (separately) addressed this earlier, but I'm pretty sure
 that although we don't own the copyright to Larry, the font it is from
 has a license that allows us to use it freely.  If you have evidence to
 the contrary, please let me know, and I'll see what I can do to obtain
 any necessary rights.

 -g2boojum-
 I don't see a license for it anywhere. If we have a copy it would
 probably be best to have it somewhere easily accessible. Putting it in
 the images directory on the website makes sense.
 
 I have a copy of the font.
 
 It is ©2000 Ethan Dunham ‐ Fonthead Design ‐ http://www.fonthead.com

Larry is the letter 's' in FontHeads which has been released as freeware.
http://fonthead.com/freeware.php is very explicit about allowed usage: Use
them in your personal and commercial projects, websites, logos or whatever
else you are designing.


Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages that need maintainers

2006-05-10 Thread Michael Cummings
On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 18:09 -0500, Daniel Goller wrote:
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 ./dev-perl/AnyEvent(dvd::rip dep)

Perl herd will grab these. For that matter, the metadata already points
to us...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-10 Thread Francesco Riosa

Chris Gianelloni wrote:

On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 00:55 -0400, Curtis Napier wrote:

Grant Goodyear wrote:

Curtis Napier wrote: [Tue May 09 2006, 09:49:27PM CDT]

Larry our wonderful mascot is from a font collection that we DO NOT OWN
THE COPYRIGHT TOO. Our esteemed ex-architect STOLE Larry. Legally
speaking we have no rights to use Larry whatsoever and if the owner of
the copyright ever stumbles onto gentoo.org and sees it we are looking
at a big fat lawsuit.

Both Jon and I (separately) addressed this earlier, but I'm pretty sure
that although we don't own the copyright to Larry, the font it is from
has a license that allows us to use it freely.  If you have evidence to
the contrary, please let me know, and I'll see what I can do to obtain
any necessary rights.

-g2boojum-

I don't see a license for it anywhere. If we have a copy it would
probably be best to have it somewhere easily accessible. Putting it in
the images directory on the website makes sense.


I have a copy of the font.

It is ©2000 Ethan Dunham ‐ Fonthead Design ‐ http://www.fonthead.com



And in any case it's easy to create your own taking the idea from the 
original, but without copying it, see attachment.



Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Wed, 10 May 2006 00:07:29 -0700 Donnie Berkholz
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | so discussion with at least the portage team would be merited.
 
 Already happened, in amongst all the other GLEP 42 stuff.

Then I wonder why a member of the portage team was taken by surprise?

Thanks for the clarification,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 May 2006 10:13:36 -0700 Donnie Berkholz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
|  On Wed, 10 May 2006 00:07:29 -0700 Donnie Berkholz
|  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  | so discussion with at least the portage team would be merited.
|  
|  Already happened, in amongst all the other GLEP 42 stuff.
| 
| Then I wonder why a member of the portage team was taken by surprise?

Because he wasn't paying attention? Or because he knew fine well and
just felt like taking a dig...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 01:26 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Wed, 10 May 2006 10:13:36 -0700 Donnie Berkholz

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 |  On Wed, 10 May 2006 00:07:29 -0700 Donnie Berkholz
 | 
 |  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |  | so discussion with at least the portage team would be merited.
 | 
 |  Already happened, in amongst all the other GLEP 42 stuff.
 |
 | Then I wonder why a member of the portage team was taken by surprise?

 Because he wasn't paying attention? Or because he knew fine well and
 just felt like taking a dig...


It was discussed a while back yes, there was no firm this is what will be 
done and I don't have any issues with what was put into the tree.  As I 
stated on IRC, I'd like a heads up if things there are going to change, as it 
affects more than just you ( or paludis ).  All I request is an attempt to 
keep each other informed.  I try to e-mail this list whenever stuff like that 
changes (I think I changed info_pkg's a while ago, for example) to let people 
know whats going on; I ask that you do the same.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 01:11, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 May 2006 00:34, Curtis Napier wrote:
  So I'm asking now, if I figure out a cool way to work Larry into the
  Classic design can I take down the poster? Or at the very least change
  the poster to type and just use the little Larry logo? Please? I'm
  begging you? With whipped cream and a cherry?

 if he appears on the about page somewhere i'm happy with filing the poster
 away into the 'wallpapers' section

so we're clear, when i said appear i *dont* mean a little icon in the 
footnote of the page ;)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 13:26, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 Because he wasn't paying attention? Or because he knew fine well and
 just felt like taking a dig...

or because reading GLEP 42 is boooring
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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] backend support for FEATURES=debug-build (again)

2006-05-10 Thread Zac Medico
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
 no one responded last time about this patch so lets try one more time :P
 
 backend support for FEATURES=debug-build ... no hooks/hacks/etc... included 
 here to handle a user interface `emerge --debug-build`
 -mike

This type of thing can already be done quite easily via /etc/portage/bashrc.  
Is it really necessary to add support for small environment tweaks like this on 
the python side?

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] backend support for FEATURES=debug-build (again)

2006-05-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 12:21, Zac Medico wrote:
 Mike Frysinger wrote:
  no one responded last time about this patch so lets try one more time :P
 
  backend support for FEATURES=debug-build ... no hooks/hacks/etc...
  included here to handle a user interface `emerge --debug-build`

 This type of thing can already be done quite easily via
 /etc/portage/bashrc.

so ?  you cant expect every user who wants to do debug building to add hacks 
to their own bashrc

 Is it really necessary to add support for small 
 environment tweaks like this on the python side?

yes, it's a user-friendly interface issue:
we have *no* *sane* way of doing a debug emerge
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