Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Technicolor Logfiles

2003-06-25 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 03:44, Tom Eastman wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 03:16:53AM -0700, Zack Gilburd wrote:
  I've never used swatch, but I can tell you that colortail is horribly
  segfaulty and I would not recomend it.

 Yeah I seem to have discovered that for myself.  It's a pity, because
 it's exactly what I wanted!

   Tom

Nothing beats tail with a well trained eye. ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Threaded email client for gentoo-user?

2003-06-25 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 16:28, William Kenworthy wrote:
 Bottom posting that are not very severely trimmed  /dev/null

 Please understand that bottom posting in many email readers is severely
 painful, just as the same as top posting can be in others - there's a
 reason why top posting is so popular!

 This comes up regularly, and if memory serves me correctly, top posting
 is actually the more correct method by history, but not by much

 It can create an almost religious argument - live and let live please!

 You can bottom post, thats fine, just understand that many of your
 messages will not get read ...


rant

Oh dear.  When I read this, I almost wanted to rip my hair out ;).  I do feel 
that this could spark a debate of emacs vs. vim proportion (well, maybe not 
*that* large).  However, top posting is one of *the* most annoying things I 
have EVER come accross.  It happens WAY too frequently here (*especially* on 
here on the GUML) and on the LKML.  I find it _much_ harder to follow a 
thread that has been broken by top posting.  Mind you, if you have a _proper_ 
cleint (KMail does this beautifully), threads that have no new messages are 
collapsed when you switch to a certain folder, and threads with new messages 
are expanded.  Also, your 'Goto Next Unread' button is your friend.

Top posting is out of hand on this ML, IMHO.  When a thread has 7 top posts in 
one day, it's just plain silly.  You may agree with this point and be aware 
it happens more than infrequently on here.

/rant

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Re: [gentoo-user] a bug?

2003-06-25 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 02:17, Stephen Turner wrote:
 hey i found a funny behavior! try using phoenix to surf your hard drive. i
 went to /root to move some files around and a folder became out of view
 anyways i allready had the file and was in the dragging mode and when i
 tried to let go in a manner to make it do nothing it actually got phoenix
 to go into a file copy loop with the root directory! copying the file over
 and over never satisfied! well after a few quick exits of phoenix it
 stopped. nothing serious didnt crash my system tho its possible i guess.
 just thought someone might be interested! lol neat trick. later guys

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Wow... I don't know how this is related to Gentoo; file a Firebird bug.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde/gnome won't start with xfree 4.3.0-r3

2003-06-25 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 14:54, Kees Bergwerf wrote:
 Hello Jamie,

  In your home directory ( cd ~) execute the command:
 
  echo startkde  .xinitrc (this will make X start KDE by default)
 
  Then startx and you should have KDE up and running ... assuming that it
  is installed.

 Thanks!
 Yes KDE starts, but it also crashes, so it makes no difference :(

 Perhaps I will install gentoo from scratch when I have time..


 --Kees

This is not a proper solution.  Just because one app doesn't work does not 
mean you should automatically re-install; this isnt 
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startkde (/usr/kde/3.1/bin/startkde) in your ~/.xinitrc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] a bug?

2003-06-25 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 18:33, Zack Gilburd wrote:
 Wow... I don't know how this is related to Gentoo; file a Firebird bug.

Allow me to be more clear: File a bug with Mozilla, this is not a Gentoo 
problem.  Please do not file with bugs.gentoo.org.

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Re: [gentoo-user] n config files in /etc need updating

2003-06-25 Thread Richard Kilgore
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:14:37PM -0700, Gëzim Hoxha wrote:
 Now I have a few question:
 1.) What does the number mean [at diff]?
 2.) What do  and  mean ?
 3.) What does the broken line mean ?
 4.) How would I fix this cupsd.conf thing?
 
 Thank you,
 
 ZiM

Not sure if this is opinion or if everyone would agree, but if I
were you, I would do:

diff -u cupsd.conf ._cfg_cupsd.conf

which would produce output something like this:

--- cupsd.conf  2003-06-25 21:46:08.0 -0500
+++ ._cfg_cupsd.conf2003-03-02 16:21:50.0 -0600
@@ -53,7 +53,7 @@
 # By default CUPS will use [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 #
 
-ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+#ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
@@ -163,7 +163,7 @@
 # none  Log nothing.
 #
 
-LogLevel debug2
+LogLevel info
 
 #
 # MaxLogSize: controls the maximum size of each log file before they are
@@ -474,7 +474,7 @@
 #BrowseAddress x.255.255.255
 #BrowseAddress 255.255.255.255
 #BrowseAddress @LOCAL
-BrowseAddress @IF(eth0)
+#BrowseAddress @IF(name)
 
 #
 # BrowseShortNames: whether or not to use short names for remote printers

The numbers are again line numbers in the arg1 and arg2 versions
of the file (cupsd.conf and ._cfg_cupsd.conf), a line
starting with - is only in cupsd.conf, and a line starting with
+ is only in ._cfg_cupsd.conf.  If you pipe it to a file
whose name ends in .diff or .patch, and open it in vim, it
will be colorized, for easy reading:

diff -u cupsd.conf ._cfg_cupsd.conf  cupsd.diff
vim cupsd.diff


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[gentoo-user] donations to what?

2003-06-25 Thread Owen Gunden
(cross posted to gentoo-user  gentoo-dev)

Hi-

Can anyone describe what the gentoo donations go toward?  I would assume
servers, bandwidth, etc., but I would feel more comfortable donating if it
were clearly documented where the money goes.  

As far as I can tell gentoo is a for-profit company; does that mean my
money could just go straight into Gentoo Inc.'s profit margin?  Is there
any way for me to make a donation that I am sure will get back to the
community?

Owen

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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] donations to what?

2003-06-25 Thread Owen Gunden
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 11:50:24PM -0400, Jon Portnoy wrote:
 Gentoo is going to go non-profit soon.

Thanks fo' the quick response!  That eases my concerns muchly.  Gentoo
should be sure to publicize this in a big way when it happens, as I'm sure
other people like me will be glad to hear it.

Gentoo rox0rz.
Owen

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[gentoo-user] Automatic update of packages related to the kernel

2003-06-25 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Is there any way I can inform the portage system of a kernel upgrade - so that 
it can automatically recompile packages which depend on the kernel (like, 
alsa-driver and the nvidia modules)?

I upgraded my kernel from 2.4.19 to 2.4.21 (due to the ptrace-exploit). The 
emerge vanilla-sources just unpacked the tarball in /usr/src/linux. I 
compiled and copied the kernel image manually. So the portage system did not 
know about the change. The next time I rebooted into the new kernel, alsa did 
not work and neither did X. So I had to manually (re)emerge alsa-driver, 
nvidia-kernel, and nvidia-glx.

Is there a way to automate this process?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Automatic update of packages related to thekernel

2003-06-25 Thread Christopher Egner
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 04:16, Saurabh Nanda wrote:
 The emerge vanilla-sources just unpacked the tarball in /usr/src/linux. I 
 compiled and copied the kernel image manually. So the portage system did not 
 know about the change. The next time I rebooted into the new kernel, alsa did 
 not work and neither did X. So I had to manually (re)emerge alsa-driver, 
 nvidia-kernel, and nvidia-glx.

Well, to begin with, emerge any of the kernel just extracts the sources.
None of them are SUPPOSED to automatically compile it (this is due to
the fact the the kernel usually needs a lot of configuration).

Emerging alsa is normal, although I've never had to remerge any of the
nvidia stuff. (I believe you used to have to do that, but newer versions
don't. IIRC it has to do with placement of the modules.)

Now, the easiest way to set it up to do all that and a bag of chips is
to write a bash script. Other than that, there's no current standard
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[gentoo-user] DMA and ide-scsi

2003-06-25 Thread Richard Revis
Hi,

I have found references in several places which state that you should be
able to use hdparm to enable dma on ide-scsi devices, however when I
enable ide-scsi the /dev/hdX entry (in this case /dev/hdd) for it vanishes
and hdparm refuses to work when pointed at the SCSI entry. Any clues as to
what is happening?

This is of particular interest to me as I am about to replace my CDRW with
a DVDRW and while PIO seemed to be fine for a 4x writer it's not going to
be able to sustain 6mb/sec!

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Re: [gentoo-user] DMA and ide-scsi

2003-06-25 Thread Rex Walters
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 05:33:35AM +0100, Richard Revis wrote:
 
 I have found references in several places which state that you should be
 able to use hdparm to enable dma on ide-scsi devices, however when I
 enable ide-scsi the /dev/hdX entry (in this case /dev/hdd) for it vanishes
 and hdparm refuses to work when pointed at the SCSI entry. Any clues as to
 what is happening?

Google found this for me:

http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/35/2001/2/0/5251986/

In a nutshell you may need to run hdparm before loading ide-scsi.

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