[gentoo-user] Initscript order

2003-09-06 Thread Stefano Carraro
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well... some question from a  gentoo newbie

1) How can i know the execution order of script called at boot?

2) On my notebook, in kernel config can i remove isa bus support?

3) During boot i've got this messages:

 * Caching service dependencies...
rc: line 36: server: command not found   [ ok ]

How can i can find the wrong script?

4) In the log i find this line several times:

[kernel] keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 272

Is there a mode to solve?


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Re: [gentoo-user] First time installing Gentoo 1.4

2003-09-06 Thread William Kenworthy
Yes, it appears to: its in the raid configure section of the kernel
alongside the promise and hpt raid devices.  The (u)dma setting is in
the normal ide device settings.  I am using it in ide mode (jumper
out).  Note that this is gs-sources, not kernel-sources.

BillK


On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 23:51, Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Thanks for your response.  
> 
> Kindly advise whether you meant kernel-2.4.22 supports ATA RAID?  But I
> have to install Gentoo 1.4 first before I can upgrade the kernel.  Even
> after upgrading the kernel the OS still resides on drive-1, similar to
> Egg and Chicken question.
> 
> B.R.
> Stephen
> 
> On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 17:46, William Kenworthy wrote:
> > There's a driver for the 680 in 2.4.22-gss (one setting for udma, and
> > one for the ideraid) that I am using in IDE mode. Much better than the
> > 2.4.20 gentoo-sources for this card.  Only prob is the card only has a
> > cdrom on it, and I dont have a /dev/hda, but there is a /proc/ide/hda
> > ...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > BillK
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 11:28, Stephen Liu wrote:
> > > Hi Kai,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your response.
> > > 
> > > I tried hard to search silraid driver on Internet without result
> > > including subscribing to "linux-kernel" mailing list, a very high
> > > traffic list.
> > > 
> > > I found Arjan's driver working on Medley software RAID (Silicon Image
> > > 3112 SATARaid, CMD680) but I have no idea whether it works on Z-Cyber
> > > ATA133 RAID controller.  I am still searching its download website.
> > > 
> > > B.R.
> > > Stephen
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Kai Lindenberg wrote:
> > > > Hi Stephen,
> > > > 
> > > > Am Dienstag, 2. September 2003 17:31 schrieb Stephen Liu:
> > > > > This is my first time installing Gentoo.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hardware Config.
> > > > > RAID-0 (Z-Cyber ATA133 RAID)
> > > > > Drive-A:  Connected to 1st slot of RAID controller
> > > > > Drive-B:  Connected to 2nd slot of RAID controller
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > > I did following steps;
> > > > > 1)Booting up the PC with CD#1
> > > > > 2)At prompt
> > > > > # gentoo md
> > > > > cdimage root# fdisk -l
> > > > >
> > > > > Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/disc: 40.0 GB
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > > Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 40.0 GB
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > > Why it is not a single hard drive, instead 2 drives being seen.
> > > > >  One drive is of Linux system and another Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
> > > > > system.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hey, you answered this question by yourself
> > > > 
> > > > 1. This is not a "real" hardware raidcontroller, so you always see 
> > > > all connected drives, maybe the windows driver hides them.
> > > > 
> > > > 2. You don't see an additional "drive" because you have no module 
> > > > for the linux kernel. Try to find a silraid driver patch for your 
> > > > kernel, maybe the latest vanilla kernel supports it, the latest 
> > > > stable 2.4.20-gentoo-r6 doesn't.
> > > > 
> > > > Kai
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] First time installing Gentoo 1.4

2003-09-06 Thread William Kenworthy
possible due to wrong choice of settings for processor in make.conf.

BillK

On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 10:11, Collins Richey wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:49:49 +0800
> Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Now when came to - stages tarballs and chroot (2 CD version)
> > -Extraction of tarballs - stage2 - without complaint
> > 
> > cdimage gentoo # mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc (without
> > complaint) cdimage gentoo # cp /etc/resolv.conf
> > /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf (without complaint) cdimage gentoo #
> > chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash Illegal instruction
> > 
> 
> Almost always this means that you have installed binary code (the stage
> 2) that is not compiled for your computer, example: Pentium4 code for an
> AMD computer.
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[gentoo-user] db compile error

2003-09-06 Thread Robert Cole
I've searched the forums for this and I must have missed it somewhere but can 
someone please tell me how to fix this:

configure: error: no acceptable jar program found in $PATH

!!! ERROR: sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 58, Exitcode 1
!!! (no error message)

I've played around with java-config but can't seem to fix this problem. 
root # java-config --list-available-vms [blackdown-jre-1.4.1] Blackdown JRE
 
1.4.1 (/etc/env.d/java/20blackdown-jre-1.4.1) (selected)

 [blackdown-jdk-1.4.1] Blackdown JDK 1.4.1 
(/etc/env.d/java/20blackdown-jdk-1.4.1) ()

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Newbian Gentoo question.

2003-09-06 Thread Joshua Banks
Thanks Everyone.

JBanks
--- David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 05 September 2003 09:03 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> 
> check out http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/desktop.xml#doc_chap3  & scroll down to 
>  Code listing 3.5: Editing /etc/rc.conf and read on.
> 
> This & other helpful documentation can be found at:
> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/docs.xml#top
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > | But how do I start KDE form the command line. The command line is the
> > | only thing that I have to use right now?
> >
> > Try startkde .
> >
> > | Then after I get KDE to load how do I tell Gentoo that I want kde to
> > | load everytime at boot so that the KDE desktop is loaded
> > | automatically?
> >
> > Edit your /etc/rc.conf as follows:
> > DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"
> > XSESSION="kde-3.whatever.whatever"
> >
> > Then:
> > rc-update add xdm default
> >
> > HTH,
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Attn Sylpheed users

2003-09-06 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:52:40 +0200
Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

> begin  quote
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:08:13 +0200
> Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> weirdness. Just tried your USE flags, and it works here.

I've investigated a bit on how the patch works. It modifies configure.in
(among other files), but not configure itself. Trying to build it
manually results in the same error (it looking for gtk 1.2.x), BUT,
downloading the pre-patched tarball from the site works. I suspect it's
a problem with autoconf. I've manually built it from the tarball and am
using it now. Thanks for the help.

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[gentoo-user] Opengl-update on server machine?

2003-09-06 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Hello

Having done a `qpkg -I -nc` recently out of curiosity I found this entry.

x11-base/opengl-update

What is opengl-update doing on a server machine that does not even have X 
or nvidia packages?

$ etcat -d `which opengl-update`
[ Results for search key : /usr/sbin/opengl-update ]
$ qpkg -q opengl-update
x11-base/opengl-update-1.5 *
DEPENDED ON BY:
x11-base/opengl-update-1.4
DEPENDED ON BY:
x11-base/opengl-update-1.3
DEPENDED ON BY:
x11-base/opengl-update-1.5
DEPENDED ON BY:
The above give no dependencies.  So my question is what resulted in this 
package slipping through the net and has this happened to any other packages?

With regards.

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Re: [gentoo-user] world and portahe out of sync again

2003-09-06 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
William Kenworthy wrote:
My portage has corrupted itself again:

rattus root # wc /var/cache/edb/world
616 616   11632 /var/cache/edb/world
rattus root # emerge -vp world
 
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
Calculating world dependencies
*** Package in world file is not installed: dev-util/pccts
 
*** Package in world file is not installed: dev-perl/XML-DOM
 
*** Package in world file is not installed: media-fonts/lfpfonts-var
 
rattus root # emerge -vp world|grep Package|wc
3072763   19248
rattus root #

So Ive got over 300 packages including openoffice to re-emerge, or is
there an easier way?  And why is this happening?
and yes, the packages are installed ...
Try this trick.

wc -l /var/cache/edb/world
mv /var/cache/edb/world ~
regenworld
wc -l /var/cache/edb/world
And post back results.  Also note that any injected packages get added to 
the world file by regenworld even though they are not really installed. 
This is filed on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27702.  So to get 
an absolute true count of installed world packages you must remove all 
injected stubs, remove world file and then run regenworld.

HTH.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Two question about Gentoo...

2003-09-06 Thread Tom Wesley
On Saturday 06 September 2003 08:04, TaZZ wrote:
> Hi!
> I will buy Gentoo 1.4 for Pentium 4.
> Works Gentoo with my computer?
> MB-Gigabyte GA-8SG667
> CPU-P4 1800
> Video-ATI RADEON 8500LE
> Mouse-Genius Optical Wheel Mouse (USB)
> Monitor-NEC 1550V
> Audio-AC 97
> Modem-Genius GM56PCI-L on the Lucent chipset
> Best regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] X doesn't run, problem with libGL.so.1

2003-09-06 Thread rambo jr
this is not making much sense,here what i have :
#ls -l libGL.so.1
lrwxr-xr-x   libGL.so.1 -> /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib/
#cd   /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib
#ls
libGL.la
#ls -l libGL.la
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   24 Aug 26 00:00 libGL.la -> 
../../xfree/lib/libGL.la
# cd ../../xfree/lib/
# ls -l libGL.la
-rw-r--r--1 root root  777 Sep  6 11:25 libGL.la

also these r the files i have in /usr/lib/opengl/xfree/lib
#ls
libGL.a  libGL.la  libGL.so  libGL.so.1  libGL.so.1.2  libMesaGL.so
ls -l libGL.so.1
lrwxrwxrwx  libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.2
ls -l libGL.so.1.2
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  581628 Sep  6 11:25  libGL.so.1.2
Iam not sure if above lines makes any sense to anyone but I am _VERY_ 
disappointed by this problem, not angry but disappointed, isn't all these 
files suppose to have installed when i did kde, isn't this something similar 
to rpm hell that we see in RH ,I think we can discuss this later on...i 
didn't expected something like thisif someone doesn't agery with me then 
pls tell me why iam not able to run kde once i did emerge kde?
one more thing ..when i did emerge opengl there was this warning this line 
that i have noted down:
BEWARE 1
The version of XFree won't work with ati-drivers-2.51-r1, if u r using them 
then please unmerge ati-drivers and emerge xfree-drm

so even though i have a ATI card i didn't install emerge ati-drivers or 
ati-gatosand yes just to keep the topic on track i am able to run wmaker 
but not kde..

RJ



From: RichalibGL.lard Kilgore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: rambo jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] X doesn't run
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 00:59:00 -0500
On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 04:11:34AM +, rambo jr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> neither of the following returns anything so i guess iam using the xfree
> drivers only..
> # qpkg -I ati-gatos
> # qpkg -I ati-drivers
>
> but since my card is one of the early ati card -- ATI rage mobility  M1 
AGP
> , so will installing any of the about drivers make difference... so 
where i
> read the standard driver that comes with X works better then ati-drivers
> for low end ATI cards...tell me if its not true..
>
> i will install one the above driver after u reply..
> thanks a lot
>
> RJ

I don't have any experience with ATI cards (at least not for a
while), but it sounds like maybe you should just use the one that
comes with xfree.
You can setup /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 by typing the following as
root:
# ln -sf /usr/lib/opengl/xfree/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
# ldconfig
Check to see that the link is still there ok after running
ldconfig, and if not, you might want to put
/usr/lib/opengl/xfree/lib in your /etc/ld.so.conf file instead --
and again, run ldconfig.
If things are running slower than you'd like, you can play with
installing ati-gatos or ati-drivers, but things might not work,
and then you can always switch back by pointing the link back
again and re-running ldconfig.
> >> > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 10:12:44PM +, rambo jr wrote:
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > > thanks to Andrew, after deleting .xinitrc and adding
> >> > > XSESSION="wmaker" in /etc/rc.conf i am finally able to run
> >> > > wmaker,but its resolution is really very bad and i have no
> >> > > idea how to correct it.  Secondly when i tried to run kde it
> >> > > gives me kdeinit error and says that its not able to find
> >> > > libGL.so.1 files, i don't understand why because i have
> >> > > already emerged kdelibs.  Any suggestion regarding these two
> >> > > problem?
> >> > >
> >> > > rj
> >> >
> >> >I have the following libraries on my machine:
> >> >
> >> >/usr/lib/opengl/xfree/lib/libGL.so.1.2
> >> >/usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1.0.4363
> >> >
> >> hi, my system also have following libraries:
> >> /usr/lib/opengl/xfree/lib/libGL.so.1.2
> >> /usr/lib/opengl/xfree/lib/libGL.so.1
> >>
> >> and /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 is a soft link to
> >> /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib/
> >>
> >> # ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
> >> lrwxr-xr-x /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib/
> >>
> >> but the kde config is unable to find libGL.so.1 , i have no idea how 
to
> >> slove that problem,
> >> and wmaker is running fine rt now...
> >>
> >> any clue what might be the problem ??
> >>
> >> RJ
> >
> >Yes, /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 needs to be a link to a file, like
> >/usr/lib/opengl/xfree/lib/libGL.so.1.2, or maybe an ati version
> >of libGL.  Is there some library file that matches libGL.so.* in
> >the directory /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib/?  I'm assuming you have an
> >ATI video card because of what the soft link _does_ point to.
> >
> >Do you have either ati-drivers or ati-gatos installed?  You can
> >find out by running:
> >
> ># qpkg -I ati-gatos
> ># qpkg -I ati-drivers
> >
> >If neither returns any packages, then neither is installed.  Oh,
> >and if you don't have qpkg, run:
> >
> ># emerge gentoolkit
> >
> >If neither is installed, try installing one.  When I run qpkg -i
> >for each of these pa

[gentoo-user] upgrading gaim with emerge

2003-09-06 Thread rambo jr
Hi,
   its just a query not a problem,
some days back i did emerge gaim and got version 0.63-r1,running 
perfectly...but now they have version no 0.68(if i remember correctly) and i 
wants to upgrade my gaim, so can anyone tell me how to do that with emerge ,
when i do
# emerge -p gaim

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R  ] net-im/gaim-0.63-r1
yes ofcourse i can download and install from the site but that's not the 
point,i want to know if is it possible to upgrade with emerge, and can 
anyone enlighten me with whats portage rsync is all about cos' i think its 
something to do with updates...
cheers
RJ

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Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading gaim with emerge

2003-09-06 Thread Tom Wesley
On Saturday 06 September 2003 11:50, rambo jr wrote:
> Hi,
> its just a query not a problem,
> some days back i did emerge gaim and got version 0.63-r1,running
> perfectly...but now they have version no 0.68(if i remember correctly) and
> i wants to upgrade my gaim, so can anyone tell me how to do that with
> emerge , when i do
> # emerge -p gaim
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild   R  ] net-im/gaim-0.63-r1
>
> yes ofcourse i can download and install from the site but that's not the
> point,i want to know if is it possible to upgrade with emerge, and can
> anyone enlighten me with whats portage rsync is all about cos' i think its
> something to do with updates...
> cheers
> RJ

It is.  You need to, as root, type 'emerge sync' and grab a quick coffee.  
This updates the package version descriptions etc etc on your machine.  Then 
'emerge -uDp world' will show what can be updated, or 'emerge -pv gaim' will 
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[gentoo-user] How to install pppd on new Gentoo Install?

2003-09-06 Thread Joshua Banks

I'm trying to get my dialup configured so that I can get net access. 

This is a new Gentoo install. I'm running KDE and and when I goto run the KPPP dialup 
tool it says


Quote: 
ERROR KPPP 
Cannot find the ppp daemon. 
Maker sure that pppd is installed. 


When I list the packages of the 2nd Gentoo CD I don't really see one that is PPPD 
specific so I'm
assuming that this is already installed and just needs to be turned on or pppd is 
bundled inside
of another package. 

How would I find out which package pppd resides in? 


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Re: [gentoo-user] First time installing Gentoo 1.4

2003-09-06 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Collins,

Thanks for your response.

I am testing Gentoo 1.4 on a Intel P-II PC, running software RAID-0. 
Because Gentoo 1.4 could not detect the RAID controller, I continued the
installation on the drive connected to bus0

I extracted Stage2 tarballs.  Whether I need to extract Stage1
tarballs.  If YES, Kindly advise how to format all partitions removing
all files completely for fresh installation instead of repartitioning
the drive.

Thanks in advance.

B.Regards
Stephen

On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 10:11, Collins Richey wrote: 
> On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:49:49 +0800
> Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Now when came to - stages tarballs and chroot (2 CD version)
> > -Extraction of tarballs - stage2 - without complaint
> > 
> > cdimage gentoo # mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc (without
> > complaint) cdimage gentoo # cp /etc/resolv.conf
> > /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf (without complaint) cdimage gentoo #
> > chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash Illegal instruction
> > 
> 
> Almost always this means that you have installed binary code (the stage
> 2) that is not compiled for your computer, example: Pentium4 code for an
> AMD computer.


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[gentoo-user] alsamixer / alsamixergui failure

2003-09-06 Thread Harlan
I know I just sent this, but because the dates on my laptop got messed up 
again (I'm going to have to figure out how to fix this), I thought I would 
send it again so the message gets in the "current" view stream.  Thanks for 
your patience.

Hello everyone,
  I am trying to increase the default volume of my laptop, am IBM Thinkpad
T21.  I had a previous unit which was louder that this current one; I
previous one had to be returned to manufacturer due to a massive failure
after only 2 weeks - I had no problem with that.

  I am trying to bring up alsamixer and alsamixergui, both fail with the
following error:
star21 root # alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or
 directory

Here are the permissions for the mixer device:
star21 root # ls -l /dev/sound/mixer /dev/mixer
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   11 Sep  3 21:31 /dev/mixer ->
sound/mixer
crwxrwxrwx1 root audio 14,   0 Dec 31  1969 /dev/sound/mixer

Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks,

Harlan...

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixer / alsamixergui failure

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 19:38, Harlan wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>   I am trying to increase the default volume of my laptop, am IBM Thinkpad 
> T21.  I had a previous unit which was louder that this current one; I 
> previous one had to be returned to manufacturer due to a massive failure 
> after only 2 weeks - I had no problem with that.
> 
>   I am trying to bring up alsamixer and alsamixergui, both fail with the 
> following error:
> star21 root # alsamixer
> 
> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
> 
> Here are the permissions for the mixer device:
> star21 root # ls -l /dev/sound/mixer /dev/mixer 
> lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   11 Sep  3 21:31 /dev/mixer -> 
> sound/mixer
> crwxrwxrwx1 root audio 14,   0 Dec 31  1969 /dev/sound/mixer
> 
> Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harlan...

Harlan,
   alsamixer only works on sound cards that have mixers. Not all sound
cards have mixers, and even if they they do the mixer might not be
enabled in the Alsa driver. For instance, my $500 RME HDSP 9652 has a
mixer, but alsamixer doesn't control it. There's another app that does
that for me. How's that for confusing! ;-)

   Take a look at the amixer command for setting your output levels
manually. Specifically the 'amixer cset numid=5' portion of amixer.

   You can also script them later when you figure out what you want for
levels.

   Ses man amixer for some examples.

Mark


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Re: [gentoo-user] First time installing Gentoo 1.4

2003-09-06 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Bill,

Thanks for your response/

On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 15:50, William Kenworthy wrote:
> possible due to wrong choice of settings for processor in make.conf.

Sorry I could not catch your advice.  Whether you meant that I have to
edit "make.conf" 


According to "10. Setting Gentoo optimizations (make.conf)" of the
installation manual;

".. generally, the defaults (an empty or unset USE variable) are
fine. More information."

therefore I left the file untouched.

Kindly advise what I have to edit?  I am running this test on a Intel
PII PC with software RAID-0.  Gentoo could not detect the RAID
controller.  I continued the test on installing Gentoo 1.4 on the drive
connected to bus0

B.Regards
Stephen


> 
> BillK
> 
> On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 10:11, Collins Richey wrote:
> > On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:49:49 +0800
> > Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Now when came to - stages tarballs and chroot (2 CD version)
> > > -Extraction of tarballs - stage2 - without complaint
> > > 
> > > cdimage gentoo # mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc (without
> > > complaint) cdimage gentoo # cp /etc/resolv.conf
> > > /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf (without complaint) cdimage gentoo #
> > > chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash Illegal instruction
> > > 
> > 
> > Almost always this means that you have installed binary code (the stage
> > 2) that is not compiled for your computer, example: Pentium4 code for an
> > AMD computer.


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Re: [gentoo-user] First time installing Gentoo 1.4

2003-09-06 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Bill,

On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 15:49, William Kenworthy wrote:
> Yes, it appears to: its in the raid configure section of the kernel
> alongside the promise and hpt raid devices.  The (u)dma setting is in
> the normal ide device settings.  I am using it in ide mode (jumper
> out).  Note that this is gs-sources, not kernel-sources.

After installing and running Gentoo 1.4 on my PC I will upgrade the
kernel to see what will happen.  I will come back to this point later.

Thanks

B.Regards
Stephen.


> 
> 
> On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 23:51, Stephen Liu wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> > 
> > Thanks for your response.  
> > 
> > Kindly advise whether you meant kernel-2.4.22 supports ATA RAID?  But I
> > have to install Gentoo 1.4 first before I can upgrade the kernel.  Even
> > after upgrading the kernel the OS still resides on drive-1, similar to
> > Egg and Chicken question.
> > 
> > B.R.
> > Stephen
> > 
> > On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 17:46, William Kenworthy wrote:
> > > There's a driver for the 680 in 2.4.22-gss (one setting for udma, and
> > > one for the ideraid) that I am using in IDE mode. Much better than the
> > > 2.4.20 gentoo-sources for this card.  Only prob is the card only has a
> > > cdrom on it, and I dont have a /dev/hda, but there is a /proc/ide/hda
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > BillK
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 11:28, Stephen Liu wrote:
> > > > Hi Kai,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for your response.
> > > > 
> > > > I tried hard to search silraid driver on Internet without result
> > > > including subscribing to "linux-kernel" mailing list, a very high
> > > > traffic list.
> > > > 
> > > > I found Arjan's driver working on Medley software RAID (Silicon Image
> > > > 3112 SATARaid, CMD680) but I have no idea whether it works on Z-Cyber
> > > > ATA133 RAID controller.  I am still searching its download website.
> > > > 
> > > > B.R.
> > > > Stephen
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Kai Lindenberg wrote:
> > > > > Hi Stephen,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Am Dienstag, 2. September 2003 17:31 schrieb Stephen Liu:
> > > > > > This is my first time installing Gentoo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hardware Config.
> > > > > > RAID-0 (Z-Cyber ATA133 RAID)
> > > > > > Drive-A:  Connected to 1st slot of RAID controller
> > > > > > Drive-B:  Connected to 2nd slot of RAID controller
> > > > > 
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I did following steps;
> > > > > > 1)Booting up the PC with CD#1
> > > > > > 2)At prompt
> > > > > > # gentoo md
> > > > > > cdimage root# fdisk -l
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/disc: 40.0 GB
> > > > > 
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 40.0 GB
> > > > > 
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Why it is not a single hard drive, instead 2 drives being seen.
> > > > > >  One drive is of Linux system and another Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
> > > > > > system.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hey, you answered this question by yourself
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. This is not a "real" hardware raidcontroller, so you always see 
> > > > > all connected drives, maybe the windows driver hides them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2. You don't see an additional "drive" because you have no module 
> > > > > for the linux kernel. Try to find a silraid driver patch for your 
> > > > > kernel, maybe the latest vanilla kernel supports it, the latest 
> > > > > stable 2.4.20-gentoo-r6 doesn't.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kai
> > > > 
> > > > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to install pppd on new Gentoo Install?

2003-09-06 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 06 September 2003 20:35, Joshua Banks wrote:
> When I list the packages of the 2nd Gentoo CD I don't really see one that
> is PPPD specific so I'm assuming that this is already installed and just
> needs to be turned on or pppd is bundled inside of another package.
>
> How would I find out which package pppd resides in?

To find a package, you can use "emerge -s" but I'll give it to you in this 
case ;-)

pppd is in net-dialup/ppp. I believe that there are packages on the 1st Gentoo 
CD as well but am not certain.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixer / alsamixergui failure

2003-09-06 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 06 September 2003 21:28, Harlan wrote:
>   I am trying to bring up alsamixer and alsamixergui, both fail with the
> following error:
> star21 root # alsamixer
>
> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or
>  directory
>
> Here are the permissions for the mixer device:
> star21 root # ls -l /dev/sound/mixer /dev/mixer
> lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   11 Sep  3 21:31 /dev/mixer ->
> sound/mixer
> crwxrwxrwx1 root audio 14,   0 Dec 31  1969 /dev/sound/mixer
>
> Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

Judging by your /dev files it should work with no problems. However, the error 
is saying (cryptically) that it can't find the default device. Try running 
"alsamixer -c 0" and "alsamixer -c 1" and see if that helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to install pppd on new Gentoo Install?

2003-09-06 Thread Joshua Banks
Thanks,

Ok..so can I do:

emerge ppp  and/or emerge net-dialup/ppp ? Will these have the same effect?

Thanks,
JBanks
--- Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 06 September 2003 20:35, Joshua Banks wrote:
> > When I list the packages of the 2nd Gentoo CD I don't really see one that
> > is PPPD specific so I'm assuming that this is already installed and just
> > needs to be turned on or pppd is bundled inside of another package.
> >
> > How would I find out which package pppd resides in?
> 
> To find a package, you can use "emerge -s" but I'll give it to you in this 
> case ;-)
> 
> pppd is in net-dialup/ppp. I believe that there are packages on the 1st Gentoo 
> CD as well but am not certain.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to install pppd on new Gentoo Install?

2003-09-06 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 06 September 2003 22:29, Joshua Banks wrote:
> Ok..so can I do:
>
> emerge ppp  and/or emerge net-dialup/ppp ? Will these have the same effect?

You'll need internet access to do that! The source or a package should be on 
one of the CDs. Check both your CDs for ppp-.tbz or .tgz.

It might also be a good idea to read the entire man page for emerge to learn a 
fair bit of how the system works. Just type "man emerge".

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[gentoo-user] Re: module errors

2003-09-06 Thread herzog
> > > New install.  Not using modules at all.  Getting four errors on
> > > startup all saying the same thing about not being able to find
> > > modules.dep.  How do I get rid of these errors?
> >
> > maybe you do by chance. just do a make modules modules_install
> > if you really dont have any modules /lib/modules// will be
> > almost empty and no more bitching bout modules.dep
>
> Module support not compiled into the kernel, so there is an error if try
> to do a "make modules" or "make modules_install".  I will post the
> specific errors when I get home.  Everything works fine, but I would
> rather the bootup output be cleaned up...

Ok, here is the exact verbage I get:

.
.
* Mounting local filesystems... [ok]
* Activating (possibly) more swap...[ok]
* Caching service dependencies...   [ok]
* Setting system clock to hardware clock [UTC]...   [ok]
modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
* Configuring kernel parameters...  [ok]
* Cleaning /var/lock, /var/run...   [ok]
xargs: environment is too large for exec
* Cleaning up /tmp directory... [ok]
* Setting user font...  [ok]
.
.

The directory "/lib/modules" does not exist on the system and, as I said
before, module support is not compiled into the kernel.

I would like to clean up the four modprobe errors.  Also, I am curious
about the "xargs" entry as well.




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Re: [gentoo-user] How to install pppd on new Gentoo Install?

2003-09-06 Thread Joshua Banks
Well I'm out right now syncing up portage.

Ok so I specified "emerge -k ppp" and this grabbed the local package that I copied off 
the cd.

But when I did a "emerge -k mozilla" it tried to go out to the internet??

How do you tell emerge to grab a package locally? I did man emerge and the -k option 
looked to be
about the only thing that I could of done...I think maybe I need to read the Portage 
Manual.
Hopefully this will explain Portage in depth.

Right now I'm out on the net with PPP dialup..  Whoo-h :D

Following the "Portage Users Guide" I did a "emerge sync". Is there anything else that 
I should do
after that? I don't understand what "emerge -u world" is suppose to do for me.

Right after the "emerge sync" finished this is what it said at the very end:

** Skipping packages. Run 'fixpackages' or set it in FEATURES to fix the
tbz2's in the packages directory. Note: This can take a very long time.

 * An update to portage is available. It is _highly_ recommended
 * that you update portage now, before any other packages are updated.
 * Please do so and then update ALL of your configuration files.

OK...So what exactly do I need to do here?

emerge -up system and emerge -u system ?

Then how do I go about updating my config files???

Thanks,
JBanks
--- Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 06 September 2003 22:29, Joshua Banks wrote:
> > Ok..so can I do:
> >
> > emerge ppp  and/or emerge net-dialup/ppp ? Will these have the same effect?
> 
> You'll need internet access to do that! The source or a package should be on 
> one of the CDs. Check both your CDs for ppp-.tbz or .tgz.
> 
> It might also be a good idea to read the entire man page for emerge to learn a 
> fair bit of how the system works. Just type "man emerge".
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] world and portahe out of sync again

2003-09-06 Thread William Kenworthy
Thanks, but I wrote a script that is running through world now
re-emergeing everything thats listed, and emerge shows as not
installed.  I'll wait for this to complete and try this and see if it
shows anything

BillK

On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 18:22, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
> William Kenworthy wrote:
> > My portage has corrupted itself again:
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixer / alsamixergui failure

2003-09-06 Thread John


On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Harlan wrote:

> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
> 
> Here are the permissions for the mixer device:
> star21 root # ls -l /dev/sound/mixer /dev/mixer 
> lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   11 Sep  3 21:31 /dev/mixer -> 
> sound/mixer
> crwxrwxrwx1 root audio 14,   0 Dec 31  1969 /dev/sound/mixer

I am pretty sure these aren't used by alsamixer as I do not think they are
the native alsa devices.

Please provide the output of lsmod.

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Re: [gentoo-user] First time installing Gentoo 1.4

2003-09-06 Thread William Kenworthy
USE is just one of many variables in make.conf.  The one I was referring
to is CFLAGS.  Also check the CHOST flag is correct.

Is there a reason why you are trying to use the raid function on this
card - my understanding its purely a remapping under the control of a
driver in windows and in linux, software raid is more efficient and
flexible?  I am using raid0 on the motherboard ports, and when I set
this up (~ two years ago under mandrake on another MB and still going
under gentoo) and it was reccomended then to run (it was a hpt
controller) any winraid card in ide mode and use softraid.  Use the
silraid, and you lose that option, and as far as I can see, gain nothing
unless the disks are required to be readable under a dual boot win/lin
system.

BillK

On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 20:37, Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Thanks for your response/
> 
> On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 15:50, William Kenworthy wrote:
> > possible due to wrong choice of settings for processor in make.conf.
> 
> Sorry I could not catch your advice.  Whether you meant that I have to
> edit "make.conf" 
> 
> 
> According to "10. Setting Gentoo optimizations (make.conf)" of the
> installation manual;
> 
> ".. generally, the defaults (an empty or unset USE variable) are
> fine. More information."
> 
> therefore I left the file untouched.
> 
> Kindly advise what I have to edit?  I am running this test on a Intel
> PII PC with software RAID-0.  Gentoo could not detect the RAID
> controller.  I continued the test on installing Gentoo 1.4 on the drive
> connected to bus0
> 
> B.Regards
> Stephen
> 
> 
> > 
> > BillK
> > 
> > On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 10:11, Collins Richey wrote:
> > > On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:49:49 +0800
> > > Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Now when came to - stages tarballs and chroot (2 CD version)
> > > > -Extraction of tarballs - stage2 - without complaint
> > > > 
> > > > cdimage gentoo # mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc (without
> > > > complaint) cdimage gentoo # cp /etc/resolv.conf
> > > > /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf (without complaint) cdimage gentoo #
> > > > chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash Illegal instruction
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Almost always this means that you have installed binary code (the stage
> > > 2) that is not compiled for your computer, example: Pentium4 code for an
> > > AMD computer.
> 
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[gentoo-user] Editing world file

2003-09-06 Thread Paulo da Silva
Hi!

Can I safely edit the world file to, for example, remove
packages from there?
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[gentoo-user] mplayer - (Digests do not match)

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   This started last night for me. Has anyone else seen this? I found an
older thread in the forums about this, from last May, so I assume it
must have gotten fixed and then broken again.

   I don't know what mplayer is. Do I need it? I run fluxbox + Alsa and
then Alsa based tools, so I'm wondering about just removing it.

   I will also submit a bug report if that's appropriate.

Thanks,
Mark

emerge --deep --update world

>>> emerge (4 of 12) media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre1 to /
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) MPlayer-1.0pre1.tar.bz2
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) font-arial-iso-8859-1.tar.bz2
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) font-arial-iso-8859-2.tar.bz2
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) svgalib_helper-1.9.17-mplayer.tar.bz2

!!! File is corrupt or incomplete. (Digests do not match)
>>> our recorded digest: 64e2d18438bbef16822c141d846884f6
>>>  your file's digest: ee26d46d5c52c5e3ac15164e78300b44
!!! File does not exist: /usr/portage/distfiles//Blue-1.0.tar.bz2

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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer - (Digests do not match)

2003-09-06 Thread Sami Näätänen
On Saturday 06 September 2003 19:09, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi,
>This started last night for me. Has anyone else seen this? I found
> an older thread in the forums about this, from last May, so I assume
> it must have gotten fixed and then broken again.
>
>I don't know what mplayer is. Do I need it? I run fluxbox + Alsa
> and then Alsa based tools, so I'm wondering about just removing it.
>
>I will also submit a bug report if that's appropriate.

Yes! The version in mirrors is corrupted. go to the homepage of mplayer 
and download it from there. After download copy the file to your 
distfiles dir. 

Blue-1.0.tar.bz2

This is a skin, so the file can be found from the skin section of the 
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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer - (Digests do not match)

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 09:14, Sami Näätänen wrote:
> On Saturday 06 September 2003 19:09, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Hi,
> >This started last night for me. Has anyone else seen this? I found
> > an older thread in the forums about this, from last May, so I assume
> > it must have gotten fixed and then broken again.
> >
> >I don't know what mplayer is. Do I need it? I run fluxbox + Alsa
> > and then Alsa based tools, so I'm wondering about just removing it.
> >
> >I will also submit a bug report if that's appropriate.
> 
> Yes! The version in mirrors is corrupted. go to the homepage of mplayer 
> and download it from there. After download copy the file to your 
> distfiles dir. 
> 
> Blue-1.0.tar.bz2
> 
> This is a skin, so the file can be found from the skin section of the 
> download page.

Sami,
   Thanks for the response and instructions. I downloaded the skin and
it is building now.

   I submitted a bug. I hope this will aid in getting the version on the
servers fixed.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Future of linux...

2003-09-06 Thread Adam Dunstan
"TELSTRA, Australia's largest technology company, has nailed its colours
firmly to the mast of open source software, creating a potential nightmare
for Microsoft and sending shivers through a range of traditional platform
providers."

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,7136841%5e16123%5e%5enbv%5e,00.html

that's a pretty big company, (one witch is currently fucking about with my
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Re: [gentoo-user] Future of linux...

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 09:45, Adam Dunstan wrote:
> "TELSTRA, Australia's largest technology company, has nailed its colours
> firmly to the mast of open source software, creating a potential nightmare
> for Microsoft and sending shivers through a range of traditional platform
> providers."
> 
> http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,7136841%5e16123%5e%5enbv%5e,00.html
> 
> that's a pretty big company, (one witch is currently fucking about with my
> adsl connection), but im happy there are going open source :)
> 
That's exciting! However, we tried Star Office and had to give up. It
doesn't handle all the Word docs we get that have forms built in, or at
least we couldn't get it to do it well enough to depend on it. They look
bad on screen and print even worse. (This was 6-8 months ago.)

I still have the Star Office box on my shelf. A pity.

Thanks for the pointer. I'm sure there are more out there. Of most
interest would be companies that have completed the transition and no
longer use M$ AND M$ Office, and not just those that are interested in
moving.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Editing world file

2003-09-06 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Paulo da Silva wrote:
Hi!

Can I safely edit the world file to, for example, remove
packages from there?
Thanks



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Yes.  You can also add packages and use operators like =, >, < and package 
versions like net-www/mozilla-1.4-r3.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel compile of gentoo-sources 2.4.20 r6

2003-09-06 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Rick Sivernell wrote:
question is do I need to send this to the gentoo developers or what?
The person in charge of this issue is [EMAIL PROTECTED] AFAIK.  Assign a 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Future of linux...

2003-09-06 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:03:49 -0700
Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 09:45, Adam Dunstan wrote:
> > "TELSTRA, Australia's largest technology company, has nailed its
> > colours firmly to the mast of open source software, creating a
> > potential nightmare for Microsoft and sending shivers through a
> > range of traditional platform providers."
> > 
> > http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,7136841%5e16123%5e%5enbv%5e,00.html
> > 
> > that's a pretty big company, (one witch is currently fucking about
> > with my adsl connection), but im happy there are going open source
> > :)
> > 
> That's exciting! However, we tried Star Office and had to give up. It
> doesn't handle all the Word docs we get that have forms built in, or
> at least we couldn't get it to do it well enough to depend on it. They
> look bad on screen and print even worse. (This was 6-8 months ago.)
> 
> I still have the Star Office box on my shelf. A pity.
> 

Not being a business user, I may not know what I am talking about, but
the only approach that works with open/closed software is the following:

1. Note the documents that don't work.
2. Supply copies to the developers.
3. Ride their ass until it does work.

Saying "this fscking thing doesn't work" and setting the box on the
shelf may let off a little steam, but it accomplishes nothing
worthwhile.

The only thing I've noted that doesn't work very well with OpenOffice is
word documents that use fonts that aren't available to OpenOffice.  The
only thing that OpenOffice can do is "best guess," so it is not
surprising when things work differently.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Only one KDE app?

2003-09-06 Thread Norberto Bensa
Van Gale wrote:
> You're probably going to have to install a bunch of KDE stuff, but this
> tip on forums might be of help to reduce bloat:

It doesn't matter, I'm a KDE user. But I don't want more bloat in my box: I 
have enough right now.

> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=70171
>

Thanks, I'll take a look.

Regards,
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2003-09-06 Thread John Kelly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Future of linux...

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 11:02, Collins Richey wrote:
> > 
> > I still have the Star Office box on my shelf. A pity.
> > 
> 
> Not being a business user, I may not know what I am talking about, but
> the only approach that works with open/closed software is the following:
> 
> 1. Note the documents that don't work.
> 2. Supply copies to the developers.
> 3. Ride their ass until it does work.
> 
> Saying "this fscking thing doesn't work" and setting the box on the
> shelf may let off a little steam, but it accomplishes nothing
> worthwhile.
> 
> The only thing I've noted that doesn't work very well with OpenOffice is
> word documents that use fonts that aren't available to OpenOffice.  The
> only thing that OpenOffice can do is "best guess," so it is not
> surprising when things work differently.

The compatibility problems with both Open Office or Star Office and M$
Word go far deeper than that. Nearly all of the VBS stuff failed for us
one way or another. I do understand that the more politically correct
portion of Linux world finds this stuff distasteful, and I don't agree,
but when a customer sends you a document full of it, it's not a money
making proposition to tell them 'Fix your document so I can do business
with you'. That leads them to another vendor and you're at a
disadvantage.

As for 'riding the developers' what purpose does that serve the business
user? Answer - none. In business, we just look for a solution that
works, pay for it as part of the expense of running the business, and
move forward trying to do business. If one of my requirements is 100%
seamless integration with other businesses, or even other portions of my
larger business, then my earlier point was, and remains, that I HAVE to
choose M$ until someone else PROVES that there is a 100% Seamless Linux
solution. Nothing else matters or the business suffers. In this case we
often say 'I want to be the second person trying this.'

Many casual Linux users don't often seem to consider the business issues
as much as they like to consider the political or technical issue. 
What's the hidden cost of having my employees on the net riding the
developers to get this done? What's the chance that it will get done
immediately? What's the chance that the 'fix' will create other bugs in
the Open Source solution? And, as a business person, why do I even care
if I'm using M$ vs. Linux? 

Again, I write this from home, using Gentoo for email, some browsing,
and a lot of Alsa audio apps, I am a Linux user. It works pretty well
for me in these certain areas. It works badly in others. Many or even
most of those bad areas are probably caused by my lack of intellect and
experience in configuring Linux. I'm sure they are. However, it's not
worth it to me to get beyond them. Life is too short.

(This will be my last response on this thread. Thanks.)

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] continued depmod problems

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I've not had this sort of problems in the 2-3 years of using Linux,
all of it before this being Redhat. Don't get me wrong, I'm sticking
with Gentoo, but I don't understand what went wrong.

   At this point all the drivers that I seem to need are running without
errors. However, depmod is not happy about other things installed on my
system:

Wizard root # depmod -a
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/drivers/atm/atmtcp.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o

depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/net/sched/sch_teql.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o
Wizard root # 

There are  about 50 failures like this.


Here's the basic series of events as best I remember them them:

0) I tried running genkernel, but it started compiling without giving me
a chance to configure, so I Ctrl-C'ed out of it.

1) I needed USB support which was not built into my kernel.

2) I ran make xconfig to get USB turned on, but there were a lot of
things I wasn't sure about, and I had a working Redhat machine running a
2.4.21 kernel, so I copied over that .config file into /usr/src/linux.
(Could this cause this sort of problem?)

3) I built the kernel using

make dep clean bzImage install modules modules_install

After editing grub.conf and rebooting the machine now has USB support.
reemerging Alsa and xfree-dri got back the rest of what I needed,
however depmod -a fails as above.

This morning I tried moving the existing lib/modules/gentoo* directory
out of the way and ran make modules_install again, and still get the
same depmod -a failures after a reboot.

I notice that I have other gentoo-sources installed, but /usr/src/linux
is still pointing at 2.4.20-r2. Does this matter? Should I repoint to
2.4.20-r6 and build from there? Why would this matter?

gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r2
gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r5
gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6

Can anyone venture a guess as to what I did wrong here?

Thanks much!

Cheers,
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RE: [gentoo-user] continued depmod problems

2003-09-06 Thread Wayne Oliver
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 September 2003 20:43 PM


> I notice that I have other gentoo-sources installed, but 
> /usr/src/linux
> is still pointing at 2.4.20-r2. Does this matter? Should I repoint to
> 2.4.20-r6 and build from there? Why would this matter?
> 
> gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r2
> gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r5
> gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6


When you have multiple sources installed you 
need to manage the symlink yourself. i.e

change your /usr/src/linux symlink to point to gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6
at the moment it's pointing to gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r2

recompile with the "newer" sources.

Regards
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[gentoo-user] kernel r6 errors

2003-09-06 Thread Richard Sivernell

I have the following proble compiling the r6 & r5 kernels:


/usl  -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c signal.c
In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modversions.h:137,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/module.h:21,
from
signal.c:11:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver
:82:1: warning: "cpu_data" redefined In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/prefetch.h:13, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/list.h:6, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/wait.h:14, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/fs.h:12, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/capability.h:17,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/binfmts.h:6,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/sched.h:9,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/mm.h:22, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/slab.h:14, from
signal.c:10:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/asm/processor.h:80:1:
warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modversions.h:137,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/module.h:21,
from
signal.c:11:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver
:86:1: warning: "smp_num_cpus" redefined In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/sched.h:23, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/mm.h:22, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/slab.h:14, from
signal.c:10:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/smp.h:80:1: warning:
this is the location of the previous definition In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modversions.h:137,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/module.h:21,
from signal.c:11:
r/u_da/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:88:1:
warning: "cpu_online_map" redefined In file included
from/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/sched.h:23,
from/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/mm.h:22, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/slab.h:14, from
signal.c:10:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/smp.h:90:1: warning:
this is the location of the previous definition In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modversions.h:137,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/module.h:21,
from
signal.c:11:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver
:102:1: warning: "smp_call_function" redefined In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/sched.h:23, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/mm.h:22, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/slab.h:14, from
signal.c:10:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/smp.h:89:1: warning:
this is the location of the previous definition In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modversions.h:170,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/module.h:21,
from
signal.c:11:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modules/ksyms.ver:596:
1: warning: "del_timer_sync" redefined In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/ext3_fs_sb.h:20,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/fs.h:692, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/capability.h:17,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/binfmts.h:6,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/sched.h:9,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/mm.h:22, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/slab.h:14, from
signal.c:10:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/timer.h:30:1: warning:
this is the location of the previous definition In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modversions.h:170,
from /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/module.h:21,
from
signal.c:11:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/modules/ksyms.ver:688:
1: warning: "set_cpus_allowed" redefined In file included from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/mm.h:22, from
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/slab.h:14, from
signal.c:10:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r6/include/linux/sched.h:539:1: warning:
this is the location of the previous definition In file include

Re: [gentoo-user] Two question about Gentoo...

2003-09-06 Thread Andrew Gaffney
TaZZ wrote:
Modem-Genius GM56PCI-L on the Lucent chipset
Is that a WinModem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading gaim with emerge

2003-09-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On 09/06/03  rambo jr wrote:

> Hi,
> its just a query not a problem,
> some days back i did emerge gaim and got version 0.63-r1,running 
> perfectly...but now they have version no 0.68(if i remember correctly)
> and i wants to upgrade my gaim, so can anyone tell me how to do that
> with emerge , when i do
> # emerge -p gaim
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild   R  ] net-im/gaim-0.63-r1

Have you done an emerge sync recently? You have to do that from time to
time so portage gets information about new packages.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Two question about Gentoo...

2003-09-06 Thread Norberto Bensa
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> TaZZ wrote:
> > Modem-Genius GM56PCI-L on the Lucent chipset
>
> Is that a WinModem?

Maybe. And if it is, does anyone knows any alternative to 
http://start.at/modem ? It seems down since a week and I need drivers for a 
customer's modem :-(

Many thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] forums

2003-09-06 Thread Rick [Kitty5]
John Kelly wrote:
> Any way to get the forums via mailing list?


ASFAIK - nope.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Future of linux...

2003-09-06 Thread Jason
...
> The compatibility problems with both Open Office or Star Office and M$
> Word go far deeper than that. Nearly all of the VBS stuff failed for us
> one way or another. I do understand that the more politically correct
> portion of Linux world finds this stuff distasteful, and I don't agree,
> but when a customer sends you a document full of it, it's not a money
> making proposition to tell them 'Fix your document so I can do business
> with you'. That leads them to another vendor and you're at a
> disadvantage.
...

So where were we, the Linux community, during remedy phases of the M$
anti-trust trials/lawsuits!  I very disappointed that all the focus was
about what was/not incorporated into the OS when the fact of the matter is
that the real problem is M$ has a monopoly on business document formats. 
A real remedy would be to force M$ to use the OO format as its native
document format for the next, say, 10 years.  Then we’d really be
competing on the merits of functionality.

Not only that, but Office 11 will use a bran new file format, perhaps part
of this is truly innovation, but I’m sure they are not too upset about
throwing OO compatibility off-balance for a year or two.

All I wanted was something like Word 4 that didn’t crash when I opened a
document larger than 20 pages.  OO is great on that point, but I too have
to work in the real world where all the lemmings choose Office.

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Attn Sylpheed users

2003-09-06 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 12:03:39 +0200
Miguel Mendez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:52:40 +0200
> Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > begin  quote
> > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:08:13 +0200
> > Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > weirdness. Just tried your USE flags, and it works here.
> 
> I've investigated a bit on how the patch works. It modifies
> configure.in
> (among other files), but not configure itself. Trying to build it
> manually results in the same error (it looking for gtk 1.2.x), BUT,
> downloading the pre-patched tarball from the site works. I suspect
> it's
> a problem with autoconf. I've manually built it from the tarball and
> am
> using it now. Thanks for the help.

Still weirder since if you look inside the ebuild it is running autoconf
to make it regenerate configure .
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Re: [gentoo-user] Editing world file

2003-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
>> Hi!  Can I safely edit the world file to, for example, remove
>> packages from there?  Thanks

Dhruba> Yes.  You can also add packages and use operators like =, >, < and
Dhruba> package versions like net-www/mozilla-1.4-r3.

Er, where is the world file?

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Editing world file

2003-09-06 Thread latin hypercube
On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 23:42 pm, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >> Hi!  Can I safely edit the world file to, for example, remove
> >> packages from there?  Thanks
>
> Dhruba> Yes.  You can also add packages and use operators like =, >, < and
> Dhruba> package versions like net-www/mozilla-1.4-r3.
>
> Er, where is the world file?

/usr/cache/edb/world

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> Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Editing world file

2003-09-06 Thread latin hypercube
On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 22:50 pm, latin hypercube wrote:
> On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 23:42 pm, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > >> Hi!  Can I safely edit the world file to, for example, remove
> > >> packages from there?  Thanks
> >
> > Dhruba> Yes.  You can also add packages and use operators like =, >, <
> > and Dhruba> package versions like net-www/mozilla-1.4-r3.
> >
> > Er, where is the world file?
>
> /usr/cache/edb/world

oops

/var/cache/edb/world


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> > Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Editing world file

2003-09-06 Thread Alberto G. Hierro
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> On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 23:42 pm, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > >> Hi!  Can I safely edit the world file to, for example, remove
> > >> packages from there?  Thanks
> >
> > Dhruba> Yes.  You can also add packages and use operators like =, >, <
> > and Dhruba> package versions like net-www/mozilla-1.4-r3.
> >
> > Er, where is the world file?
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/var/cache/edb/world AFAIK

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RE: [gentoo-user] continued depmod problems

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 12:09, Wayne Oliver wrote:

> > 
> > gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r2
> > gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r5
> > gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6
> 
> 
> When you have multiple sources installed you 
> need to manage the symlink yourself. i.e

Or just continue using the one that the current simlink points to, which
what I'm currently doing. the 2.4.20-r2 kernel was running. The only
directory in /lib/modules was the one for 2.4.20-r2. Even though portage
has downloaded the r5 and r6 sources, I've never built them and I've
never used them. 

I _could_ build r6 if there is a reason to do so, or I _could_ emerge -C
r5 and r6. Either would presumably suit me needs.

Unless someone can explain why having the other two directories on the
machine should cause a problem. I believe that I can have multiple
kernel source directories. I've had them on many machines before this
one.

> 
> change your /usr/src/linux symlink to point to gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6
> at the moment it's pointing to gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r2
> 
> recompile with the "newer" sources.

Why will this fix the problem?

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[gentoo-user] log in without X

2003-09-06 Thread Chris



I have a problem I was editing /etc/rc.config when 
my cat jumped right in the middle of my keyboard. Needless to say my X session 
is now trashed. How do I get back in so I can fix it?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] log in without X

2003-09-06 Thread tu . th . tu
> I have a problem I was editing /etc/rc.config when my cat jumped right 
> in the middle of my keyboard. Needless to say my X session is now 
> trashed. How do I get back in so I can fix it?
You could use the live CD and do a
mount /dev/ /mnt/gentoo
to get access to your installed /etc.
Look at the install docs at www.gentoo.org.
 Tu.th.Tu

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Re: [gentoo-user] log in without X

2003-09-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 05:07:35PM -0500, Chris wrote:
> I have a problem I was editing /etc/rc.config when my cat jumped right
> in the middle of my keyboard. 
Sounds like somebody needs to port PawSense
(http://www.bitboost.com/pawsense/) to linux...

> Needless to say my X session is now trashed. How do I get back in so I
> can fix it?
boot off a LiveCD, or pass as an extra paramater 'init=/bin/bash' to the
kernel via your boot manager.

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[gentoo-user] gcvs and cvsgui option for cvs ?

2003-09-06 Thread Sylvain
Hello !

I'm trying to use gcvs, but i'm experincing troubles with it :
it detect that cvs is installed, and its version : 1.11, but
the execvp syscall fails.
if i force it to use /usr/bin/cvs, it complains about a -cvsgui
missing in my cvs version.
gcvs 1.0_beta3-r1
cvs 1.11.6

Does someone use gcvs successfully ? Which version ?
Maybe someone is using a better gui for cvs ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] log in without X

2003-09-06 Thread Chris
didn't work:(
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> > I have a problem I was editing /etc/rc.config when my cat jumped right
> > in the middle of my keyboard. Needless to say my X session is now
> > trashed. How do I get back in so I can fix it?
> You could use the live CD and do a
> mount /dev/ /mnt/gentoo
> to get access to your installed /etc.
> Look at the install docs at www.gentoo.org.
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Re: [gentoo-user] log in without X

2003-09-06 Thread Chris
how do i pass the new parameter?
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Re: [gentoo-user] log in without X

2003-09-06 Thread tu . th . tu
> how do i pass the new parameter?
hit letter a on boot screen to edit kernel para.
 Tu.th.Tu

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Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading gaim with emerge

2003-09-06 Thread Joshua Banks
I did an "emerge sync" today and this is the version that I have available:

net-im/gaim
  Latest version available: 0.66-r3
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,753 kB
  Homepage:http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
  Description: GTK Instant Messenger client
I haven't upgraded any packages yet but the command to upgrade "all" already installed
non-essential packages is:

emerge -u world

or as a test you can pass the above with the -p (pretend option). "emerge -up world"

This is actually covered in the Portage Manual. Pretty good read for someone like me 
that is new
to Gentoo.. :)

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> > Hi,
> > its just a query not a problem,
> > some days back i did emerge gaim and got version 0.63-r1,running 
> > perfectly...but now they have version no 0.68(if i remember correctly)
> > and i wants to upgrade my gaim, so can anyone tell me how to do that
> > with emerge , when i do
> > # emerge -p gaim
> > 
> > These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> > 
> > Calculating dependencies ...done!
> > [ebuild   R  ] net-im/gaim-0.63-r1
> 
> Have you done an emerge sync recently? You have to do that from time to
> time so portage gets information about new packages.
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Re: [gentoo-user] log in without X

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 06 September 2003 23:07, Chris wrote:
> I have a problem I was editing /etc/rc.config when my cat jumped right in
> the middle of my keyboard. Needless to say my X session is now trashed. How
> do I get back in so I can fix it?

I don't see anything in /etc/rc.conf that could 'trash' X. I assume it just 
doesn't start?
So why not just log into the text console and fix it? :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: module errors

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 06 September 2003 15:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ok, here is the exact verbage I get:
[snip]
> modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
> /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
> modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
> /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
> modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
> /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
> modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
> /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
> * Configuring kernel parameters...[ok]

Could you try a 'depmod -a', then reboot?
In theory it should create the dependency file, but I've never run with no 
module support at all, so who knows.

> * Cleaning /var/lock, /var/run... [ok]
> xargs: environment is too large for exec
[snip]
> I would like to clean up the four modprobe errors.  Also, I am curious
> about the "xargs" entry as well.

So would I!
Couple weeks back I tried to figure out, but lost.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Editing world file

2003-09-06 Thread Joshua Banks

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Er, where is the world file?

They just told you silly :D

It's located in:

/var/cache/edb/world

less /var/cache/edb/world .looksee..

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Re: [gentoo-user] continued depmod problems

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 06 September 2003 19:43, Mark Knecht wrote:

>At this point all the drivers that I seem to need are running without
> errors. However, depmod is not happy about other things installed on my
> system:
>
> Wizard root # depmod -a
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/drivers/atm/atmtcp.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o
> 
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/net/sched/sch_teql.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o
> Wizard root #
>
> There are  about 50 failures like this.
>
> Here's the basic series of events as best I remember them them:
>
> 0) I tried running genkernel, but it started compiling without giving me
> a chance to configure, so I Ctrl-C'ed out of it.
>
> 1) I needed USB support which was not built into my kernel.
>
> 2) I ran make xconfig to get USB turned on, but there were a lot of
> things I wasn't sure about, and I had a working Redhat machine running a
> 2.4.21 kernel, so I copied over that .config file into /usr/src/linux.
> (Could this cause this sort of problem?)
>
> 3) I built the kernel using
>
> make dep clean bzImage install modules modules_install

After changes of this magnitude, coupled with the aborted compile, you really 
should backup your .config (VERY important!), then run a 'make mrproper', 
copy the .config back and run either 'make oldconfig/menuconfig/xconfig' then 
your usual 'make dep clean .'. 'make mrproper' puts the source tree back 
into a state as close to untouched as possible.

> This morning I tried moving the existing lib/modules/gentoo* directory
> out of the way and ran make modules_install again, and still get the
> same depmod -a failures after a reboot.

There is no need to move existing modules out of the way before 
module_install'ing, the make does that itself.

> I notice that I have other gentoo-sources installed, but /usr/src/linux
> is still pointing at 2.4.20-r2. Does this matter? Should I repoint to
> 2.4.20-r6 and build from there? Why would this matter?

You shouldn't *have* to, as to find the current running kernel, source tree 
and module location you can use 'uname -r'. But I'm pretty sure there are 
things in the portage tree which check for the symlink, so it's best to keep 
it current.

> Can anyone venture a guess as to what I did wrong here?

I ventured!
Bet I didn't succeed tho :)

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RE: [gentoo-user] Future of linux...

2003-09-06 Thread McIntyres

> "TELSTRA, Australia's largest technology company, has nailed its
colours
> firmly to the mast of open source software, creating a potential
nightmare
> for Microsoft and sending shivers through a range of traditional
platform
> providers."

>http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,7136841%5e16123%5e%5enb
v%5, 00.html

> that's a pretty big company, (one witch is currently fucking about
with my
> adsl connection), but im happy there are going open source :)

This is off thread but. try iinet they give way better deals than
Telstra, Oh and BTW I don't think Telstra switching to Open Source is
going to improve there QoS its probably just a long term cost cutting
mechanism and a way to inconvenience other ISP's and telco's around.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Future of linux...

2003-09-06 Thread Sami Näätänen
On Sunday 07 September 2003 00:10, Jason wrote:
> ...
>
> > The compatibility problems with both Open Office or Star Office and
> > M$ Word go far deeper than that. Nearly all of the VBS stuff failed
> > for us one way or another. I do understand that the more
> > politically correct portion of Linux world finds this stuff
> > distasteful, and I don't agree, but when a customer sends you a
> > document full of it, it's not a money making proposition to tell
> > them 'Fix your document so I can do business with you'. That leads
> > them to another vendor and you're at a disadvantage.
>
> ...
>
> So where were we, the Linux community, during remedy phases of the M$
> anti-trust trials/lawsuits!  I very disappointed that all the focus
> was about what was/not incorporated into the OS when the fact of the
> matter is that the real problem is M$ has a monopoly on business
> document formats. A real remedy would be to force M$ to use the OO
> format as its native document format for the next, say, 10 years. 
> Then we’d really be competing on the merits of functionality.
>
> Not only that, but Office 11 will use a bran new file format, perhaps
> part of this is truly innovation, but I'm sure they are not too upset
> about throwing OO compatibility off-balance for a year or two.
>
> All I wanted was something like Word 4 that didn't crash when I
> opened a document larger than 20 pages.  OO is great on that point,
> but I too have to work in the real world where all the lemmings
> choose Office.

This is quite sad that expecially small companies have to suffer from 
the MS hell. As an example I have a friend who uses some MS office 
tools to keep his invoices etc in electronic form, but newer versions 
of MS own tools can't handle them correctly so he has to use the older 
software. He also needs the newer software so that he can read the 
newer documents etc, but he can't completely use that one tool set, 
because he couldn't use the older stuff with it. So what hapens when 
that product doesn't work in the 'current' windows OS? He will need two 
windows machines to do the busines efectively. But because big 
companies go on and because they are his most important clients he have 
to cope with it. And sadly small businesses doesn't have a choice 
before big companies really can't take no more MS shit and picks an 
alternative. The current MS strategy will eventually lead to situations 
where the big clients simply doesn't cope with the shit but want 
something more and then MS either changes it's tactic or dies (sadly I 
think that there is too much brains in there to them die, but maybe I 
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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer - (Digests do not match)

2003-09-06 Thread Sami Näätänen
On Saturday 06 September 2003 19:47, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 09:14, Sami Näätänen wrote:
> > On Saturday 06 September 2003 19:09, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >This started last night for me. Has anyone else seen this? I
> > > found an older thread in the forums about this, from last May, so
> > > I assume it must have gotten fixed and then broken again.
> > >
> > >I don't know what mplayer is. Do I need it? I run fluxbox +
> > > Alsa and then Alsa based tools, so I'm wondering about just
> > > removing it.
> > >
> > >I will also submit a bug report if that's appropriate.
> >
> > Yes! The version in mirrors is corrupted. go to the homepage of
> > mplayer and download it from there. After download copy the file to
> > your distfiles dir.
> >
> > Blue-1.0.tar.bz2
> >
> > This is a skin, so the file can be found from the skin section of
> > the download page.
>
> Sami,
>Thanks for the response and instructions. I downloaded the skin
> and it is building now.
>
>I submitted a bug. I hope this will aid in getting the version on
> the servers fixed.

I thought there were allready a bug from it? Oh well should have checked 
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[gentoo-user] /dev permissions

2003-09-06 Thread Paulo da Silva
Hi!

Where are the /dev permissions kept?
I changed some /dev permissions but I would like to restore
them to the original status.


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[gentoo-user] Emerging without ccache

2003-09-06 Thread Paulo da Silva
Hi,

I couldn't get lilypond compiled because of ccache!
I needed to unemerge ccache, emerge lilypond and
then reemerge ccache again. Is there a way to emerge
forcing ccache or distcc not to be used?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging without ccache

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 07 September 2003 01:22, Paulo da Silva wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I couldn't get lilypond compiled because of ccache!
> I needed to unemerge ccache, emerge lilypond and
> then reemerge ccache again. Is there a way to emerge
> forcing ccache or distcc not to be used?

Yep, check /etc/make.conf and remove ccache and distcc from FEATURES.
If FEATURES isn't set, thus using the defaults, then do an 'emerge info' find 
out what is being used and set FEATURES minus what you don't want.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev permissions

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 07 September 2003 01:19, Paulo da Silva wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Where are the /dev permissions kept?
> I changed some /dev permissions but I would like to restore
> them to the original status.

devfs should reset some of them upon un/reloading of the appropriate modules 
or a reboot, otherwise /dev entries are basically the same as normal files.
If what you have changed doesn't get reset after a reboot, and is causing you 
trouble post to the list and I'm sure someone can tell you the default.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev permissions

2003-09-06 Thread Meka[ni]
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 01:19:24 +0100
Paulo da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Where are the /dev permissions kept?
> I changed some /dev permissions but I would like to restore
> them to the original status.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging without ccache

2003-09-06 Thread Steven Elling
On Saturday 06 September 2003 19:34, Mike Williams wrote:
> On Sunday 07 September 2003 01:22, Paulo da Silva wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I couldn't get lilypond compiled because of ccache!
> > I needed to unemerge ccache, emerge lilypond and
> > then reemerge ccache again. Is there a way to emerge
> > forcing ccache or distcc not to be used?
>
> Yep, check /etc/make.conf and remove ccache and distcc from FEATURES.
> If FEATURES isn't set, thus using the defaults, then do an 'emerge info'
> find out what is being used and set FEATURES minus what you don't want.

Better yet.  For one offs where you need to disable features, do the 
following:

env FEATURES="... ... ..." emerge lilypond
=

Make sure FEATURES contains everything from the variable in make.conf except 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging without ccache

2003-09-06 Thread tu . th . tu
> Hi,
> 
> I couldn't get lilypond compiled because of ccache!
> I needed to unemerge ccache, emerge lilypond and
> then reemerge ccache again. Is there a way to emerge
> forcing ccache or distcc not to be used?
look at /etc/make.conf - there is the path to a file named use.desc
maybe you'll find a hint there.
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[gentoo-user] OpenGroupware Ebuild?

2003-09-06 Thread Denny Schierz
hi,

did anybody see an ebuild for OpenGroupware? The source installation is
not easy :-/

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGroupware Ebuild?

2003-09-06 Thread donnie berkholz
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> hi,
>
> did anybody see an ebuild for OpenGroupware? The source installation is
> not easy :-/

Neither is writing an ebuild for it. =)
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixer / alsamixergui failure

2003-09-06 Thread Chris I
On 2003.09.06 08:28, Harlan wrote:
Hello everyone,
  I am trying to increase the default volume of my laptop, am IBM
Thinkpad
T21.  I had a previous unit which was louder that this current one; I
previous one had to be returned to manufacturer due to a massive
failure
after only 2 weeks - I had no problem with that.
  I am trying to bring up alsamixer and alsamixergui, both fail with
the
following error:
star21 root # alsamixer
alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or
 directory
Here are the permissions for the mixer device:
star21 root # ls -l /dev/sound/mixer /dev/mixer
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   11 Sep  3 21:31 /dev/mixer ->
sound/mixer
crwxrwxrwx1 root audio 14,   0 Dec 31  1969
/dev/sound/mixer
/dev/sound is OSS sound drivers, is it not, and alsa is /dev/snd ?  
Thats what I think, anyway, but it's not uncommon for me to be wrong.

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Re: [gentoo-user] X doesn't run, problem with libGL.so.1

2003-09-06 Thread Richard Kilgore
On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 10:41:26AM +, rambo jr wrote:
> this is not making much sense,here what i have :
> #ls -l libGL.so.1
> lrwxr-xr-x   libGL.so.1 -> /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib/

Yes, this is useless.  I don't know how libGL.so.1 got created as
a link to a directory, but it is a mistake.  In my previous
e-mail, I suggested to run the following as root:

# ln -sf /usr/lib/opengl/xfree/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
# ldconfig

This will make the soft link libGL.so.1 point to a shared library
file, which it what you need, and then the ldconfig command will
ensure that the system sees that it is there.

> #cd   /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib
> #ls
> libGL.la
> #ls -l libGL.la
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   24 Aug 26 00:00 libGL.la -> 
> ../../xfree/lib/libGL.la
> # cd ../../xfree/lib/
> # ls -l libGL.la
> -rw-r--r--1 root root  777 Sep  6 11:25 libGL.la

This is all irrelevant.  Files that end in .a or .la are for
developing software, not for running it.

> also these r the files i have in /usr/lib/opengl/xfree/lib
> #ls
> libGL.a  libGL.la  libGL.so  libGL.so.1  libGL.so.1.2  libMesaGL.so
> ls -l libGL.so.1
> lrwxrwxrwx  libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.2
> ls -l libGL.so.1.2
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  581628 Sep  6 11:25  libGL.so.1.2

The libGL.so.1.2 is the file you need to be using.  The command I
recommended above will make /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 point to
libGL.so.1.2 so that the system can find it.

> I am not sure if above lines makes any sense to anyone but I am _VERY_
> disappointed by this problem, not angry but disappointed, isn't all these
> files suppose to have installed when i did kde, isn't this something
> similar to rpm hell that we see in RH ,I think we can discuss this later
> on...i didn't expected something like thisif someone doesn't agery with
> me then pls tell me why iam not able to run kde once i did emerge kde?
> one more thing ..when i did emerge opengl there was this warning this line
> that i have noted down:

It seems there was a bug in one of the packages you installed
that made it create a useless /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 soft link to a
directory.

rpm dependency hell is actually referring to a problem where there
is nothing wrong with the rpm packages involved, but the rpm
package format is simply not very good at tracking dependencies,
so things don't work anyway.  You're problem is appears to be the
result of a mistake made in one of the ebuilds.

> BEWARE 1
> The version of XFree won't work with ati-drivers-2.51-r1, if u r using them 
> then please unmerge ati-drivers and emerge xfree-drm

Yes, you might want to "emerge xfree-drm" at some point if you
don't have it installed now.  It will improve the performance of
your X performance some.

> so even though i have a ATI card i didn't install emerge ati-drivers or 
> ati-gatosand yes just to keep the topic on track i am able to run 
> wmaker but not kde..
> 
> RJ

>From the error message, it sounds like ati-drivers will not
work.  I think you could install ati-gatos if you wish, and it
would probably add some functionality (like TV out possibly if
you have it) and improve performance more.

But you might want to try to just get it working with plain old
XFree, first.

- richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] forums

2003-09-06 Thread James H. Cloos Jr.
> "John" == John Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

John> Any way to get the forums via mailing list?  --

What they really need is an nntp server (using the same
authentication as the web side for posting privs).

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Re: [gentoo-user] ipv6 tunnel broker.

2003-09-06 Thread James H. Cloos Jr.
> "Carlos" == Carlos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> The only down thing is that FreeNet6's portage doesn't provide an
>> init.d script to start and stop the ipv6 tunnel...

Carlos> Apparently it does now. :)

It is not perfect, though.  start pulls up the tunnel, but stop/zap
try to kill a daemon that doesn't exist, rather than trying to pull
the tunnel interface down

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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Some suggestions

2003-09-06 Thread William Kenworthy
This has come up a few times including splitting make.conf up into
subfiles.  However, this sort of approach becomes hazadous to both new
users to linux, and experianced users from other distros.

Keep it all together and avoid the fragmentation of related information,
and leave the very useful verbose comments in place: this works for the
majority of users.

As far as annoying updates:  make.conf is very central to the system, so
it requires special care in updating

Perhaps a better etc-update is needed: I have had a few disasters with
that one and the crappy default diff, and vimdiff.

I do like the idea that if a file is unchanged, it gets updated
automaticly (not silently though!) as etc-update doesnt appear to do
this well at the moment.

On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 11:08, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 02:57, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 20:26, Steven Elling wrote:
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[gentoo-user] Can Gentoo install source file?

2003-09-06 Thread TaZZ
Hi!
I'm newbie in Gentoo...
Can Gentoo install tar.gz source file (how one rpm-package install Red Hat :-))
or I must do:
./configure
make 
make install

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Some suggestions

2003-09-06 Thread Chris I
On 2003.09.06 23:20, William Kenworthy wrote:
I do like the idea that if a file is unchanged, it gets updated
automaticly (not silently though!) as etc-update doesnt appear to do
this well at the moment.
If a file is unchanged, it will not be set as a pending update. If  
there are trivial changes only (headers, comments, etc) then it will  
automagically update them (and inform you of what files these are).

I've never had problems with etc-update, its only when you start  
messing around with features like -5 (automerge without -i) that bad  
things start happening, and I dont think these should be mentioned in  
the interface (but maybe in the man page with a warning)

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcvs and cvsgui option for cvs ?

2003-09-06 Thread dexter
Hi,

I haven't tried using gcvs. Maybe you would be interested trying other 
gui for cvs like smartcvs or cervisia.

Best Regards,
Dexter
Sylvain wrote:

Hello !

I'm trying to use gcvs, but i'm experincing troubles with it :
it detect that cvs is installed, and its version : 1.11, but
the execvp syscall fails.
if i force it to use /usr/bin/cvs, it complains about a -cvsgui
missing in my cvs version.
gcvs 1.0_beta3-r1
cvs 1.11.6
Does someone use gcvs successfully ? Which version ?
Maybe someone is using a better gui for cvs ?
regards,

sylvain

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Re: [gentoo-user] log in without X

2003-09-06 Thread Chris
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She,s up and running now, thats how I am answering everybody. Thanks for you 
help. Now all I have to do is see if I can remember how to change from 
800x600 to 1024x768 then Kde will be set perfect.

> > how do i pass the new parameter?
>
> hit letter a on boot screen to edit kernel para.
>  Tu.th.Tu
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[gentoo-user] Ymessenger

2003-09-06 Thread Chris
which Yahoo messenger do I use?


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[gentoo-user] bootstrap after installation possible?

2003-09-06 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
Hi,

I installed my Gentoo from stage 3. Now I'm wondering if I can go back, 
and start from stage 1 (bootstrap) again, without jeopardizing my 
currently functioning system.
If it's possible, is it reasonable to do so?
Can I maybe get out a little more speed this way?
How is the exact procedure? Just run the bootstrap script, and then 
"emerge system"?

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Re: [gentoo-user] First time installing Gentoo 1.4

2003-09-06 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Bill,

This PC, a RAID-0 box for test use, has a motherboard which only
supports ATA-33 hard drive.  I have no ATA-33 hard drive and only have
ATA-133 hard drive available for test.  The problem is with the ATA-133
RAID controller installed on booting the PC the BIOS detects it.  I have
searched around on the BIOS pages to disable it without result.

ATA-133 hard drive does not work on the old motherboard.  I have tested
it.  I have no ATA-133 controller available therefore I got a ATA-66
controller from stock instead and continued testing installation of
Gentoo 1.4.  However I encountered another problem as follows;

At start hitting "Enter" to start standard kernel

cdimage root # fdisk -l

Disk /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 40.0 GB
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4866 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Devices /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
Boot#
Start   1
End 4866
Block   39086113+
Id  c
System  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)


cdimage root # fdisk /dev/hda
Unable to open /dev/hda

cdimage root # fdisk /dev/hdc
You will not be able to write the partition table.
Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF
disklabel
Building a new Dos disklabel.  Changes will remain in memory only, until
you decide to write them.  After that of course, the previous content
won't be recoverable.

Warning: invalid flag 0x000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by
w(rite)

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/hdc: 476 MB, 476618752 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 57 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes



I supposed /dev/hdc is the RAM disk.  Why /dev/hda could not be opened?

(Remark:  The ATA-133 hard drive has been previously formatted in DOS)

Kindly advise how to proceed.  Thanks in advance.

B.Regards
Stephen

P.S. I also tested "gentoo md" and the result was the same.




On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 22:44, William Kenworthy wrote:
> USE is just one of many variables in make.conf.  The one I was referring
> to is CFLAGS.  Also check the CHOST flag is correct.
> 
> Is there a reason why you are trying to use the raid function on this
> card - my understanding its purely a remapping under the control of a
> driver in windows and in linux, software raid is more efficient and
> flexible?  I am using raid0 on the motherboard ports, and when I set
> this up (~ two years ago under mandrake on another MB and still going
> under gentoo) and it was reccomended then to run (it was a hpt
> controller) any winraid card in ide mode and use softraid.  Use the
> silraid, and you lose that option, and as far as I can see, gain nothing
> unless the disks are required to be readable under a dual boot win/lin
> system.
> 
> BillK
> 
> On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 20:37, Stephen Liu wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> > 
> > Thanks for your response/
> > 
> > On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 15:50, William Kenworthy wrote:
> > > possible due to wrong choice of settings for processor in make.conf.
> > 
> > Sorry I could not catch your advice.  Whether you meant that I have to
> > edit "make.conf" 
> > 
> > 
> > According to "10. Setting Gentoo optimizations (make.conf)" of the
> > installation manual;
> > 
> > ".. generally, the defaults (an empty or unset USE variable) are
> > fine. More information."
> > 
> > therefore I left the file untouched.
> > 
> > Kindly advise what I have to edit?  I am running this test on a Intel
> > PII PC with software RAID-0.  Gentoo could not detect the RAID
> > controller.  I continued the test on installing Gentoo 1.4 on the drive
> > connected to bus0
> > 
> > B.Regards
> > Stephen
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > BillK
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 10:11, Collins Richey wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:49:49 +0800
> > > > Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Now when came to - stages tarballs and chroot (2 CD version)
> > > > > -Extraction of tarballs - stage2 - without complaint
> > > > > 
> > > > > cdimage gentoo # mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc (without
> > > > > complaint) cdimage gentoo # cp /etc/resolv.conf
> > > > > /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf (without complaint) cdimage gentoo #
> > > > > chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash Illegal instruction
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Almost always this means that you have installed binary code (the stage
> > > > 2) that is not compiled for your computer, example: Pentium4 code for an
> > > > AMD computer.
> > 
> > 
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