Re: [gentoo-user] booting from floppy (after install)
Am Monday 15 December 2003 19:07 schrieb ext john gennard: I meant /fd0 exists in /dev directory as does about a couple of dozen of varieties (eg /fd0u1440). It shows 'brw-rw 1 root floppy 2 etc'. That means you have the device file, and from that I guess you're not using devfs, right? If you where using devfs, you would have /dev/floppy/0* (and /dev/fd0* would be symlinks to those). And this only if the driver is active (compiled in or module loaded). Do you see the floppy driver print some version info at boot time (or with dmesg). /dev/fd1 also exists, but I never have more than one floppy. Seems you're using a static /dev, no devfs. In this case, the /dev files are allways there, no matter if the corresponding driver is active or not. Modprobe does nothing other than give out an error message 'can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.21-gss/modules.dep - no such file or directory'. I'm not surprised as the kernel compiled by genkernel was '2.4.20-gentoo-r6' which is what /lib/modules has. By the way, there is no file /etc/modules.conf - is this a Gentoo thing? But the one that is running 2.4.21-gss? And ther are no modules for that kernel installed in /lib/modules? May be I should go back and manually compile a kernel - I've normally no problem in doing that and I generally include everything I need, leaving only three modules. Hmm, maybe the best thing to do. Anyway, I wonder why you would want to boot from floppy? HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)151 1513 6954 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Cap Gemini Ernst Young| Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.cgey.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] partition resizing inside of Gentoo
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:15:43PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: reading yet, but was wondering if there are tools that can both resize and move existing partitions while they are potentially in use? GNU Parted is a pretty amazing partition editing tool. I'm fairly certain it does *not* allow you to resize a partition while it is in use, unfortunately. http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/ - O -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NPTL -- how to start using it?
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:38:18AM -0500, N. Owen Gunden wrote: I followed this procedure, but it hasn't been working out. Problems I'm experiencing now include: - The nvidia kernel module doesn't work (freezes during initialization) - wine segfaults - mplayer segfaults Note that I did these things carefully with testing in-between. After upgrading the kernel (and re-emerging nvidia-kernel), all three of the above worked fine. It seems that as soon as I emerged glibc with +nptl things started breaking. I tried re-emerging wine and mplayer to no avail. Well, I finally found the answer to my problems. I needed to re-emerge nvidia-glx (that's right--nvidia-glx, *not* nvidia-kernel!). mplayer works, wine works, xmms works. Though I'm not overly impressed with wine's performance. It's slower than it was on 2.4 without nptl. Though to be fair it doesn't seem to be wine that's going slow, it's X that's hogging all the resources. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get DGA to work in starcraft for battle.net.. - O -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB
On 1970-01-01, John Gilger wrote: I found what I needed at bootdisk.com. My Windows side is happy again. Thanks! Now, after I do a little more cleaning on my windows, I go back to trying to persuade GRUB to boot both systems ;-) Yo! What's wrong with your date? This is from your mail header: Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 13:22:27 -0800 You are 33 years back in time...;o) /HÖ -- /// Helgi Örn Helgason, Registered GNU/Linux User: #189958 \\\ \\\ ~~ Gentoo 1.4 ~ Kernel 2.4.20-gentoo-r9 ~ KDE 3.1.4 ~~ /// pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
I tought you might be interested in some news from your favorite distro: Despite signs of abating interest in it, Gentoo Linux was one of the most remarkable success stories of this year. Portage, Gentoo's package management system, has clearly won many supporters at the time of growing dissatisfaction with some binary package management formats, although excellent documentation, active support forums and valuable community newsletters have all contributed to Gentoo's becoming one of the most widely used Linux distributions today. But despite frequent assertions by die-hard Gentoo converts, questions still remain about the product being a viable option for a large-scale deployments on mission-critical servers. this was taken here: http://www.distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20031215 -- mathieu perrenoud -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I get this message when telnetted to that mail server and manually send command. [EMAIL PROTECTED] jssong]$ telnet mail.myisp.com smtp Trying xxx.202.13.xxx... Connected to mail.hanafos.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mp01.hanafos.com ESMTP Terrace Internet Messaging Server 3.5300. (for HanaroDream) MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 Sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 5.1.2 You(ip:xxx.242.178.xxx) are NOT allowed to RELAY (receiver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). is this will help to find out? Thanks in advance... Daniel Jiseok Song - -Original Message- From: Daniel Jiseok Song [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem Whe using mozilla mail, I can send e-mail via SMTP with secure authentication server. I just check Use secure authentication checkbox, its done. But using Kmail, I always fail to send. It just saying my IP is rejected relaying by the mail server. There are some menus for selecting authentication in Kmail (I think login method is used in that mail server.) But any of them goes same, rejected. How can I send a mail via SMTP secure authentication server with Kmail? Thanks in advance , Daniel Jiseok Song -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/3snygnI3iXjheY8RAhwjAKCKQnrV6gVyMDHotrMoWYKFUtZyoACfa5Ap NXeR1bPmsv5xdOptwnXDyWA= =Wfpq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=45627highlight=kmail+authentication I think there is a bug in Kmail about authentication. And Im afraid its not fixed yet and more. - -Original Message- From: Daniel Jiseok Song [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem Whe using mozilla mail, I can send e-mail via SMTP with secure authentication server. I just check Use secure authentication checkbox, its done. But using Kmail, I always fail to send. It just saying my IP is rejected relaying by the mail server. There are some menus for selecting authentication in Kmail (I think login method is used in that mail server.) But any of them goes same, rejected. How can I send a mail via SMTP secure authentication server with Kmail? Thanks in advance , Daniel Jiseok Song -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/3sp+gnI3iXjheY8RApGEAJ0SU5LcpPIl+wWZktNGgsJs9DO4JwCcC4ch OQNYTqfqtSCQLLPNx7p2Xi0= =tMRD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 11:26, Daniel Jiseok Song wrote: Whe using mozilla mail, I can send e-mail via SMTP with secure authentication server. I just check Use secure authentication checkbox, its done. But using Kmail, I always fail to send. It just saying my IP is rejected relaying by the mail server. There are some menus for selecting authentication in Kmail (I think login method is used in that mail server.) But any of them goes same, rejected. How can I send a mail via SMTP secure authentication server with Kmail? The easiest way is to enable Server requires authentication, enter your login details and then click Check what server supports. I haven't had it fail yet. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 01 January 1970 22:22, John Gilger wrote: On 12/15/03 9:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:39:13 -0800 - -- please set your mailservers time right regards christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/3su6szmQKstIgt4RAveBAJ9S6d1yDpe+fRWiq0euYkD1OTeCBQCfRRaS LC67Us4wAMZJgdAiwqFxCF8= =ae2I -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on another machine?
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 12:03, George Mathews wrote: I was wondering if there was a way to use my desktop machine to compile for my laptop when I `emerge -uD world`. I would like to use my desktop because it is 4x the 600Mhz that the laptop is. Another option is to mount the root partition via NFS, mount /tmp, /var/tmp and /usr/portage from local on top of that and then chroot to it. That shouldn't require too much network bandwidth (except during the install phase). -- Regards, Jason Stubbs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] iperf .ebuild
hi,
i'm tring to make iperf ebuild
http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/iperfdocs_1.7.0.html
but i'm getting errors... below is the .ebuild and the error i'm getting.
---ebuild---
DESCRIPTION=measure maximum TCP bandwidth, delay jitter, datagram loss
HOMEPAGE=http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/;
SRC_URI=http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/${P}-source.tar.gz;
KEYWORDS=${WORKDIR}/${P}
S=${WORKDIR}/${P}
src_compile() {
emake || die
}
src_install() {
make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
}
---error---
# ebuild /arh/myportage/net-analyzer/iperf/iperf-1.7.0-r1.ebuild compile
md5 src_uri ;-) iperf-1.7.0-source.tar.gz
Checking iperf-1.7.0-source.tar.gz's mtime...
/arh/myportage/net-analyzer/iperf/iperf-1.7.0-r1.ebuild has been updated;
recreating WORKDIR...
Unpacking source...
Unpacking iperf-1.7.0-source.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/iperf-1.7.0-r1/work
Source unpacked.
make config
rm -f cfg/config.h
make[1]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/iperf-1.7.0-r1/work/iperf-1.7.0'
make[1]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1. Add `+' to parent make rule.
make config
make[1]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/iperf-1.7.0-r1/work/iperf-1.7.0'
make[1]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1. Add `+' to parent make rule.
make[2]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/iperf-1.7.0-r1/work/iperf-1.7.0/cfg'
./configure
make[2]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/iperf-1.7.0-r1/work/iperf-1.7.0/cfg'
./configure
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... checking for C compiler default output...
a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for executable suffix... configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs.
If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'.
make[2]: *** [all] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/iperf-1.7.0-r1/work/iperf-1.7.0/cfg'
make[1]: *** [config] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/iperf-1.7.0-r1/work/iperf-1.7.0'
make: *** [cfg/config.h] Error 2
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
checking for object suffix... configure: error: cannot compute OBJEXT: cannot compile
sed: can't read confdefs.h: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [all] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/iperf-1.7.0-r1/work/iperf-1.7.0/cfg'
make[1]: *** [config] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/iperf-1.7.0-r1/work/iperf-1.7.0'
make: *** [Makefile.rules] Error 2
!!! ERROR: net-analyzer/iperf-1.7.0-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 8, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
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Re: [gentoo-user] NPTL -- how to start using it?
Owen, Out of curiosity, is GLX still operational with NPTL enabled. I completely rebuild my system from scratch without NPTL in order to get operational. The source of the problem may have been elsewhere, but I believe that there is a warning in the glibc ebuild saying that GLX will not operate with NPTL enabled. Thanks, Craig On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 02:35, N. Owen Gunden wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:38:18AM -0500, N. Owen Gunden wrote: I followed this procedure, but it hasn't been working out. Problems I'm experiencing now include: - The nvidia kernel module doesn't work (freezes during initialization) - wine segfaults - mplayer segfaults Note that I did these things carefully with testing in-between. After upgrading the kernel (and re-emerging nvidia-kernel), all three of the above worked fine. It seems that as soon as I emerged glibc with +nptl things started breaking. I tried re-emerging wine and mplayer to no avail. Well, I finally found the answer to my problems. I needed to re-emerge nvidia-glx (that's right--nvidia-glx, *not* nvidia-kernel!). mplayer works, wine works, xmms works. Though I'm not overly impressed with wine's performance. It's slower than it was on 2.4 without nptl. Though to be fair it doesn't seem to be wine that's going slow, it's X that's hogging all the resources. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get DGA to work in starcraft for battle.net.. - O -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] booting from floppy (after install)
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 18:32, john gennard wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:56:46AM +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: May be I should go back and manually compile a kernel - I've normally no problem in doing that and I generally include everything I need, leaving only three modules. Hmm, maybe the best thing to do. Anyway, I wonder why you would want to boot from floppy? As I said when first posting, I'm old (well into my 70s), and started with no knowledge of computing. I have (to keep the peace here) to allow a Win installation on the hard drive, and I've long learned not to trust it - (in fact I hardly ever use it), so I don't want any problems with the MBR. Using lilo on a floppy suits me fine - I can fire up any one of 5 o/s (3 varieties of Debian) and would like to have Gentoo around as it looks very good to this novice. I understand what you say, but Linux has much to do with choice and so if I'm content I'd rather not change unless there are compelling reasons to do so. In the original install guide, there was a small section about creating boot disks which doesn't seem to be in the new handbook. Anyway, for lilo it said to do the following. However, the following doesn't include kernel options nor the installation of lilo so I don't know if it would actually work. # dd if=/boot/your_kernel of=/dev/fd0 I would think that lilo with a config similar to what follows should work. To use it. I'm using grub, though, so I can't check to see if it would work or not. Also, I don't actually own a floppy disk. ;-) boot=/dev/fd0 image=/kernel label=gentoo read-only root=/dev/root To use the above config, you would need to: # mke2fs /dev/fd0 # mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy # cp /path/to/kernel /mnt/floppy # umount /mnt/floppy # lilo Regardless of Windows version, you shouldn't be required to use a boot floppy, though. The worst that could happen is that Windows overwrites your mbr. In that case, you could just boot a livecd, chroot to whichever distro manages your mbr and then reinstall the boot sector. -- Regards, Jason Stubbs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] booting from floppy (after install)
Am Tuesday 16 December 2003 10:32 schrieb ext john gennard: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:56:46AM +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Monday 15 December 2003 19:07 schrieb ext john gennard: I meant /fd0 exists in /dev directory as does about a couple of dozen of varieties (eg /fd0u1440). It shows 'brw-rw 1 root floppy 2 etc'. That means you have the device file, and from that I guess you're not using devfs, right? If you where using devfs, you would have /dev/floppy/0* (and /dev/fd0* would be symlinks to those). And this only if the driver is active (compiled in or module loaded). Do you see the floppy driver print some version info at boot time (or with dmesg). I don't have access to 'dmesg' or the /var/log files I'm used to. Hmm, you should. I just booted into a Live CD (1.4 RC4) and when I get a prompt, dmesg gives me the info I want (near the end): inserting floppy driver for 2.4.20-xfs-r2 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M And, the LiveCD in fact uses devfs so you should have something like: ls -l /dev/fd0 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root8 Dec 3 09:26 /dev/fd0 - floppy/0 ls -l /dev/floppy/0 brw-rw1 root root 2, 0 Jan 1 1970 /dev/floppy/0 From this I guess you're trying to access the floppy from within chroot, is this correct? If so, can you access the floppy when _not_ in chroot (i.e. mke2fs /dev/floppy/0), right after booting LiveCD? So we need to clarify which /dev we are talking about, the one from the CD, created by devfs, or the one in chroot, which is a statical one unless you deleted its contents and did the bind mount as in the handbook, chapter 6.a. Since I use devfs, here is what I did when I installed gentoo: Before chroot'ing, I deleted the contents of the future /dev (which is /mnt/gentoo/dev, if you follow the handbook precisely) with rm -rf /mnt/gentoo/dev/* and the bind-mounted (means: made visible) /dev from the cd on /mnt/gentoo/dev as described in the handbook. Jason Stubbs suggested I use the Handbook to do my original install instead of the install guide that I was trying - he was certainly right in my case. I've got to the end of the install, but haven't yet been able to boot as I cannot make a boot floppy or put lilo on a floppy (since I can't mount the floppy - none of the entries I've tried for fstab have worked). To get into the install I have to use a liveCD like a 'rescue disk'. Since I use grub, I never created a lilo floppy, but I guess you don't need to mount it, since lilo writes to the floppy device (/dev/floppy/0) directly. So, could you 1) boot with the live cd 2) issue dmesg to verify that the floppy driver is active 3) verify that the floppy works, using mke2fs as above 4) then mount your allready prepared gentoo install (/dev/hdXY) on /mnt/gentoo 4) to be save, rename /dev on /mnt/gentoo and make a new one: mv /mnt/gentoo/dev /mnt/gentoo/dev.bak; mkdir /mnt/gentoo/dev 5) bind-mount /dev from the live cd: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev 6) enter the chroot environment as per handbook 7) try 3) again Tell me how far you get with this. If this all works, there should be no problem with genkernel, either. But you should now also enable devfs in your kernel config. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)151 1513 6954 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Cap Gemini Ernst Young| Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.cgey.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: signature
[gentoo-user] ipv6 routing table
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know how to clear the ipv6 routing table ? I've been trying route -A inet6 flush .. but it doesnt support flushing. Any ideeas? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBP97s9b4Dc84tIPwxAQLnBRAAmW7ThkjvJeAekPecrgQCI64tKCVqUHTJ WSG5hz4/2xy6FaCZ2d7OscDpml4pSglQNOLgJGuBpRL8bA1Mk7Of0kqjY8ou75tO gIzRwQDK5M0olUqahnV4qdbSh1lfRBSUH9OSDliiLD/f0+q2wEHLXe4TjDaRITdz KQ4EU0ZMlV6N03K7PvQ/ajh2mNepx6bwq3/OaEHaHQFzVSavmGKzTn/g/tFCtW1E TrwRIBHb+x+bp5d7ZIkgYkMplwHOlKTqFIYKJnhcJBtfoYp5UaBeX7SdSeEge8Hz UhtW/y8h1B4qZGwSKgguNFFW32vyO3LKvsPWxjbnY3xpQIG7MqBMBrJ/CHsjhinR PKj3rDWx/pmBtuvCFF1DNncJinchUQkKXnJmb0nKgUhUKnuAY1ZK8gbEwSOcFxlu 1t8qUJ/0pfS4gW1eDe13Z09bEGjLm3wdm3n06ETUG9sj2Wx3XPQasE1Ew3sfO7oC SPy8v4Zv6fxBTO/N/cDylZt0PwFcetKPlYrzad9bZVBiW+Mahi+PTzGQL8lZVKWK VHT+Vav8arKXufWXBLsJyByhYuelkmk3WF4/oPSwOVimYegQNuFIKjO93hH7MzLX P5ePFDNqWhy4kQiVrMz+xlgjDpaJwZZ0+rciwYtOg6DuP1/vmUqDb3MNXthWBZZV LJ1CENNkyDI= =5akA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 December 2003 03:01 am, mathieu perrenoud wrote: I tought you might be interested in some news from your favorite distro: Despite signs of abating interest in it, Gentoo Linux was one of the most remarkable success stories of this year. Portage, Gentoo's package management system, has clearly won many supporters at the time of growing dissatisfaction with some binary package management formats, although excellent documentation, active support forums and valuable community newsletters have all contributed to Gentoo's becoming one of the most widely used Linux distributions today. But despite frequent assertions by die-hard Gentoo converts, questions still remain about the product being a viable option for a large-scale deployments on mission-critical servers. I agree, until we get a server type portage tree, I wouldn't put it on a mission critical server where my job laid in the balance.. I have used gentoo since it was announced of the first version, but the portage tree is a huge moving target.. Servers don't need bleeding egde, it needs consistancy.. - -- Weird enough for government work. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/3vyLld4MRA3gEwYRAqIqAKCg6VfWjgHOkTIrHbLat74Us0qQ9QCcCpnm AIOeuZzp4kypu0mUMKZselk= =P6SM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage help / Teapop compiled with APOP?
Can anyone help me to navigate to the correct place to find out how a specific package (such as teapop) was compiled? emerge gentoolkit if you haven't yet and use etcat: # etcat -u teapop will give you all the flags that influence teapop, indicating if they're compiled in or not. I hope this helps, Matthieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] oops! my date is 14 years ahead!
setup proper date
touch foo; find / -newer foo -exec touch -t 20031215 {} \;
And everything should be OK
Worked like a charm... except that symlinks dates are not changed. Could this cause
any problem?
Matthieu
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[gentoo-user] Booting Issues
Ok, this is being pretty hard for me to pin down... I had accidentally updated "world" with the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" flag set... Well, it seemingly didn't break much...booted fineno errors that i ran into in daily use of the machinebut i had a day when i had time, so i commented out the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS flag and re-updated the system. Now, the linux stops booting when it gets to "Mounting /proc...". I booted from the cd and recompiled my kernel making sure the kernel had /proc filesystem support...and copied it to the boot partitionbut to no avail. kernel i'm working with - Gentoo sources - linux 2.4.20-r8 Any ideas? Thanks, Brendan
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Issues
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 23:15, Brendan Sullivan wrote: Ok, this is being pretty hard for me to pin down... I had accidentally updated world with the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 flag set... Well, it seemingly didn't break much...booted fineno errors that i ran into in daily use of the machinebut i had a day when i had time, so i commented out the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS flag and re-updated the system. Now, the linux stops booting when it gets to Mounting /proc I booted from the cd and recompiled my kernel making sure the kernel had /proc filesystem support...and copied it to the boot partitionbut to no avail. kernel i'm working with - Gentoo sources - linux 2.4.20-r8 Any ideas? It sounds like your mount is broken. When downgrading like that, a lot of the compiler tools generate bad executables during the time that there is a mixture of x86 and ~x86. At a minimum, try recompiling mount and then anything else that appears to be broken. Personally, I'd suggest rebuilding all of world once more. -- Regards, Jason Stubbs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Force emerge to rebuild target system
Christoph Schäfer wrote: Hi, for some reason I forgot to mount /proc before doing emerge system on a fresh gentoo install. Is there any way to force emerge to get and recompile the whole thing agagin? Since some packages seem to fail to compile due missing /proc... the command qpkg -nc -I shows up all packages that are installed on the system, using un-colored output. So re-emerging all packages might be done like this: emerge --oneshot `qpkg -nc -I` -v [-p] Remove the -p option if you agree with the packages that emerge wants to re-compile. The --oneshot option is important, it prevents all packages from being added to your world favorites list. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenLDAP Authentication
Frank R Callaghan wrote: Ah thats interesting, I just logged in from the machines console and it works! but connecting via ssh from here dosen't ! (I just recompiled openssh to make sure it had ldap support - I added ldap to my make.conf a little while ago) Ahh! I think SSH changed its default configuration so that it would not use pam by default. You have to change/add a durective (UsePAM) in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and then restart the daemon. It should work after that. Thanks for all the help John, I found the last problem I didn.t have ssl enabled in ldap.conf - oh well there was a lot to configure ;) Cheers, Frank. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sa-learn fails
Solved, Changing the priv's dit not help and i got a lot spam harvest, so i dit a backup of .spamasssin and delete the ' bayes_seen' 'bayes_toks' files tried it again and all works fine again. But wy? Patrick Op za 13-12-2003, om 09:58 schreef Patrick Marquetecken: Hi, after collection spam that get true, i executed sa-learn but it fails with this command: Cannot open bayes databases /home/istari/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie failed: Cannot open bayes databases /home/istari/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: File exists Has anyone idee to solve this ? TIA Patrick -- Please, Spock, do me a favor ... 'n' don't say it's `fascinating'... No... but it is... interesting... -- Spock PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B ICQ# 316932703 Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org signature.asc Description: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend
Re: [gentoo-user] NPTL -- how to start using it?
N. Owen Gunden wrote: Well, I finally found the answer to my problems. I needed to re-emerge nvidia-glx (that's right--nvidia-glx, *not* nvidia-kernel!). mplayer works, wine works, xmms works. Though I'm not overly impressed with wine's performance. It's slower than it was on 2.4 without nptl. Though to be fair it doesn't seem to be wine that's going slow, it's X that's hogging all the resources. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get DGA to work in starcraft for battle.net.. I have had the 2.6 kernel slow to almost a halt on my P4-3.06GHz (HT enabled with SMP). It will work fine for a couple of days, and then for some reason the screen saver power saving mode seems to cause the kernel to slow and virtually halt. It is nearly impossible to even shutdown as saving ALSA settings takes many many minutes. This slowdown is a rare thing but it has happened too me three times so far. Tom Veldhouse -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sa-learn fails
Do you suppose that you ugraded berkley DB from perhaps 3 to 4 (and upgraded Spam Assassin) and now the files are incompatible? Tom Veldhouse -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo energe -e world and no booting
Gentoo I recent made some changes to my /etc/make.conf and I want to recompile my system so I did an emerge -e world. Everything went fine and after it completed I shut down my PC and when rebooting grub now is now not working. When booting it displays a grub prompt and does not go any further and I can not type anything else. I booted to my CD and mounted my /boot and my grub.conf file seems to be fine. Has anyone else ran across this? Thanks ahead of time for any help. Mike _ Shop online for kids toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo energe -e world and no booting
Michael Evaniuck wrote: Gentoo I recent made some changes to my /etc/make.conf and I want to recompile my system so I did an emerge -e world. Everything went fine and after it completed I shut down my PC and when rebooting grub now is now not working. When booting it displays a grub prompt and does not go any further and I can not type anything else. I booted to my CD and mounted my /boot and my grub.conf file seems to be fine. Has anyone else ran across this? Thanks ahead of time for any help. Mike Did you mount /boot before you [re]installed grub? I am not sure that it should matter, but it might be worth trying it again. # mount /boot # emerge grub # grub Reinstall the bootloader as before and see how it goes. Tom Veldhouse -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] booting from floppy (after install)
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:01:52 +0100 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want a boot floppy that will boot linux you can also do this, after you have built your kernel: # cd /usr/src/linux/ then put a floppy in fd0 and # make bzdisk I have a stack of these things laying around. I need to recycle them, they only boot the kernel for which they were made. I use a grub floppy now. -- It is exactly because a man cannot do a thing that he is a proper judge of it. -- Oscar Wilde -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NPTL -- how to start using it?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:52:49AM -0500, Craig Cavanaugh wrote: Out of curiosity, is GLX still operational with NPTL enabled. I completely rebuild my system from scratch without NPTL in order to get operational. The source of the problem may have been elsewhere, but I believe that there is a warning in the glibc ebuild saying that GLX will not operate with NPTL enabled. Yeah, I saw that warning and turned off GLX which was why I was surprised to see that my problem was solved by re-emerging nvidia-glx. I think, as Jason Stubbs said, that it's been fixed in recent versions. - O -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo energe -e world and no booting
I am at work now and not at my home Gentoo system. I was planning on re-emerging grub again and go threw installing it tonight. I will update if that helps. Mike From: Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo energe -e world and no booting Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:43:04 -0600 Michael Evaniuck wrote: Gentoo I recent made some changes to my /etc/make.conf and I want to recompile my system so I did an emerge -e world. Everything went fine and after it completed I shut down my PC and when rebooting grub now is now not working. When booting it displays a grub prompt and does not go any further and I can not type anything else. I booted to my CD and mounted my /boot and my grub.conf file seems to be fine. Has anyone else ran across this? Thanks ahead of time for any help. Mike Did you mount /boot before you [re]installed grub? I am not sure that it should matter, but it might be worth trying it again. # mount /boot # emerge grub # grub Reinstall the bootloader as before and see how it goes. Tom Veldhouse -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list _ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] lm-sensors
When I try to emerge lm-sensors it says: !!! ERROR: sys-apps/lm-sensors-2.7.0-r1 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 40, Exitcode 2 !!! lm_sensors requires the source of a compatible kernel\nversion installed in /usr/src/linux and =i2c-2.7.0 support built as a modules this support is included in gentoo-sources as of 2.4.20-r1 I have vanilla-2.4.23 kernel. I am pretty sure I previously had lm-sensors working with an older vanilla kernel. Also an old version of sensors-detect that I have hanging around says that I need i2c-viapro and i2c-riva modules, but I don't see these in linux/.config. I guess if I had the right kernel they would exist? Is gentoo-sources really required for lm-sensors? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
Hello All, I recently got a little 166 laptop to play with and I thought I'd have a go at getting into X. As such I grabbed XFCE as a lightweight window manager. I was also looking at IceWM and FVWM. XFCE had the most amusing logo so it won ;) (Tho I may check out the others later) So in the intrests of keeping it light I installed what appeared to be the minimum required by portage to get XFCE built. Much merging and configuring later I got XFCE working and started to read the docs. That's when things got odd. I've done quite a bit of *nix work before but it's almost always been in bash... I've had little to do with X. GTK2 When reading the docs this line jumped out at me: All XFce 4 modules depend on GTK2 I thought that stange as I don't have gtk2 installed. Anyone out there understand that? Are the two gtk libs close enough that XFCE can be fooled into thinking that gtk is gtk2? I'm also quite confused about the ebuild for gtk... both gtk1 and gtk2 are the same ebuild (x11-libs/gtk+) but the compile seperately. are they slotted? While I'm on the subject if anyone has any pros/cons regarding gtk vs gtk2 I would love to hear them. I haven't done much with X and this is all a alien. Any good links to discussions on this topic would also be cool GNOME KDE use flags Ok... so there are gnome and kde USE flags. The descriptions aren't too informative... things like 'adds support for gnome'. Now as I understand it XFCE is quite gnome like... should I then use the -gnome flag when compiling X apps to use in XFCE? Or is using that flag only going to be populating some directory only gnome uses? All advice and links most welcome ;) Many thanks Nick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] seeking suggestiong on email software
Zarick Lau wrote: Hi, Thanks Elton, A~~yvind, Norbert and Christopha first, I really got more solid idea on what should I do, however... It seems that your solution has suggested exim/qmail/postfix, but my ISP has port the incoming 25port, that why I initially stated that I'd like to use fetch mail to act as a POP3 client from the isp pop3 server. With my limited knowledge, postfix (and the likes) are MTA so, what do it fullfil my needs, except relay my outgoing mail to a ISP smtp server? Yep, it looks like you are reallynot familiar with e-mail service ... so I'll try to describe little bit more my solution: 1- my incoming mailbox is somewhere on ISP's server, which supports POP3 only 2- On my home server I installed an configured qmail + courier imap + sqwebmail + ... + fetchmail + ... 3- e-mails from ISP to my server are taken by fetchmail (running from crontab) and then delivered locally to maildir's for (virtual) users by qmail 4- for serving messages (stored in maildirs) I setup IMAP server to have it much more flexible 5- If I like to read messages, I need some client to IMAP server ... it can be Mozilla, Kmail and sqwebmail installed on any PC (including local server) (since I have sqwebmail, browser is enough) In this way I see from any client the same ... so if I make new mail folder in Mozilla, it appears on webmail too ... 6. For outgoing mail I do not use ISP, but my qmail delivers it directly. (It is faster.) U need to send e-mails using ISP rellay only in case u are on dialup line and/or u do not have direct connection to inet. noro -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo energe -e world and no booting
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 15:50, Tom Wesley wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Michael Evaniuck wrote: Gentoo I recent made some changes to my /etc/make.conf and I want to recompile my system so I did an emerge -e world. Everything went fine and after it completed I shut down my PC and when rebooting grub now is now not working. When booting it displays a grub prompt and does not go any further and I can not type anything else. I booted to my CD and mounted my /boot and my grub.conf file seems to be fine. Has anyone else ran across this? Thanks ahead of time for any help. Mike _ Shop online for kids toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com I have this exact same issue, although I'm able to type kernel (hd0,2)/bzImage-2.6 boot and the system comes up fine. I'll probably take a look at this this evening though, have you tried re-writing the boot sector as you did in the original install - that was going to be my first idea... I've just got home, done the grub setup again and all works fine: # grub grub root (hd0,2) grub setup (hd0) grub exit And all works as it did before. -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] sa-learn fails
Indeed, I dit a emerge -U --deep -world and upgraded. Most of my software was more then six months old. Patrick Op di 16-12-2003, om 16:16 schreef Thomas T. Veldhouse: Do you suppose that you ugraded berkley DB from perhaps 3 to 4 (and upgraded Spam Assassin) and now the files are incompatible? Tom Veldhouse -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Well Bones, do the new medical facilities meet with your approval? They do not. It's like working in a damn computer center PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B ICQ# 316932703 Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org signature.asc Description: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB
From: Helgi Örn Helgason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/16 Tue AM 03:53:21 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting Win XP with GRUB On 1970-01-01, John Gilger wrote: I found what I needed at bootdisk.com. My Windows side is happy again. Thanks! Now, after I do a little more cleaning on my windows, I go back to trying to persuade GRUB to boot both systems ;-) Yo! What's wrong with your date? This is from your mail header: Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 13:22:27 -0800 You are 33 years back in time...;o) /HÖ -- I was using my laptop. I forgot that I had to do a reset on it the other day and needed to reenter my date/time info. Sorry :-\ John reply Description: PGP signature -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
Jeff Smelser wrote: Servers don't need bleeding egde, it needs consistancy.. No one is forcing you to install bleeding edge software. Install Gentoo on a spare test box, test it; and if everything goes OK, put it to work. Then only deploy security updates (after testing of course.) Regards, Norberto pgp0.pgp Description: signature
[gentoo-user] perl XML::Xerces
Has anyone successfully build and tested the perl XML::Xerces module on Gentoo? No ebuild exists... I am willing to create one if someone can give me a clue as to what works. The current CPAN perl module is XML::Xerces-2.3.0-4 which will compile against xercesc built with /usr/portage/dev-libs/xerces-c/xerces-c-2.3.0-r6.ebuild but not 2.4.0. Tests fail to load the perl Xerces.so with undefined symbol: _ZN11xercesc_2_49XMLString9transcodeEPKt xercesc does not build with gcc-2.95. I have tried building the module with both gcc-2.95 and with gcc-3.2.3, and it compiles and links with both compilers, but both builds failure to load with undefined symbol errors. -- Lincoln A. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] GUI for CD burning in 2.6
I've been playing with the new 2.6 kernels and specifically the ide-cd support for CD-Rs. I've been able to burn cds using 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hdx', but haven't found any of the GUIs that support the new parm. Is there a GUI like xcdroast available? Thanks, Todd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for CD burning in 2.6
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:18:02PM -0500, Todd Horsman wrote: I've been playing with the new 2.6 kernels and specifically the ide-cd support for CD-Rs. I've been able to burn cds using 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hdx', but haven't found any of the GUIs that support the new parm. Is there a GUI like xcdroast available? Yes, xcdroast. :) -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for CD burning in 2.6
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:18:02PM -0500, Todd Horsman wrote: I've been playing with the new 2.6 kernels and specifically the ide-cd support for CD-Rs. I've been able to burn cds using 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hdx', but haven't found any of the GUIs that support the new parm. Is there a GUI like xcdroast available? X-CD-Roast does that. -- Barry Marler Information Analyst II Center for Applied Genetic Technologies University of Georgia Athens, GA USA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for CD burning in 2.6
Thanks! talk about feel stupid ;-) I was having problems with it, but hadn't tried after I got cdrecord working. Thanks! On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:18:02PM -0500, Todd Horsman wrote: I've been playing with the new 2.6 kernels and specifically the ide-cd support for CD-Rs. I've been able to burn cds using 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hdx', but haven't found any of the GUIs that support the new parm. Is there a GUI like xcdroast available? Yes, xcdroast. :) -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
On 12/16/03 Nick Fisher wrote: GTK2 When reading the docs this line jumped out at me: All XFce 4 modules depend on GTK2 I thought that stange as I don't have gtk2 installed. Anyone out there understand that? Are the two gtk libs close enough that XFCE can be fooled into thinking that gtk is gtk2? No, they have different APIs, I really doubt you don't have gtk2 installed. I'm also quite confused about the ebuild for gtk... both gtk1 and gtk2 are the same ebuild (x11-libs/gtk+) but the compile seperately. are they slotted? Yes While I'm on the subject if anyone has any pros/cons regarding gtk vs gtk2 I would love to hear them. I haven't done much with X and this is all a alien. Any good links to discussions on this topic would also be cool Most people think gtk2 is a lot nicer than gtk1, but it can also be much slower in some situations AFAIK. Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
GTK2 When reading the docs this line jumped out at me: All XFce 4 modules depend on GTK2 I thought that stange as I don't have gtk2 installed. Anyone out there understand that? Are the two gtk libs close enough that XFCE can be fooled into thinking that gtk is gtk2? No, they have different APIs, I really doubt you don't have gtk2 installed. It's seems bloomin odd to me I'll say that. However, portage seems quite firm on the idea that I have gtk+-1.2. I can only find gtk+-1.2 docs and binarys... Having said that I'm kinda working in the dark here knowing so little about gtk+. Can you think of any good tests I could try to confirm or deny? While I'm on the subject if anyone has any pros/cons regarding gtk vs gtk2 I would love to hear them. I haven't done much with X and this is all a alien. Any good links to discussions on this topic would also be cool Most people think gtk2 is a lot nicer than gtk1, but it can also be much slower in some situations AFAIK. Hummm I have a 166 thinkpad with 80MB I'm thinking this might be one of those situations. Nick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_TMPDIR
Viestissä Maanantai 15. Joulukuuta 2003 01:24, Oliver Lange kirjoitti: you may well delete /var/tmp/portage/* as long as you're not currently emerging some software. For example: rm -R /var/tmp/portage/* Don't do this! do : cd /var/tmp/portage/ rm -R * or disaster awaits -- ykä at home -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
On 12/16/03 Nick Fisher wrote: GTK2 When reading the docs this line jumped out at me: All XFce 4 modules depend on GTK2 I thought that stange as I don't have gtk2 installed. Anyone out there understand that? Are the two gtk libs close enough that XFCE can be fooled into thinking that gtk is gtk2? No, they have different APIs, I really doubt you don't have gtk2 installed. It's seems bloomin odd to me I'll say that. However, portage seems quite firm on the idea that I have gtk+-1.2. I can only find gtk+-1.2 docs and binarys... Having said that I'm kinda working in the dark here knowing so little about gtk+. Can you think of any good tests I could try to confirm or deny? try `ls -d /var/db/pkg/x11-libs/gtk*` Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
-Original Message- From: Nick Fisher GNOME KDE use flags Ok... so there are gnome and kde USE flags. The descriptions aren't too informative... things like 'adds support for gnome'. Now as I understand it XFCE is quite gnome like... should I then use the -gnome flag when compiling X apps to use in XFCE? Or is using that flag only going to be populating some directory only gnome uses? You want -gnome and -kde, since you would never use those features. The gnome and kde add stuff like session management, which XFCE doesn't use. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] NFS and ifplugd
Hi all, I have two questions: 1st - I have a laptop and a PC both running Gentoo and I would like to share the home folder between these everytime they are connected. I think NFS seems to be the way to go since both use reiserfs and should be server and client at the same time. Are there any docs for doing this? 2nd - I'm using ifplugd so I added ifplugd to default level and removed net.eth* scripts. Ifplugd starts my network ok using eth0 at boot but if I remove the cable from my laptop and then I connected again, it'll not recognize my network. Isn't this what it is supposed to do? Why isn't this working? My /etc/conf.d/ifplugd is: INTERFACES=eth0 AUTO=yes BEEP=yes IGNORE_FAIL=yes IGNORE_FAIL_POSITIVE=no IGNORE_RETVAL=yes POLL_TIME=1 DELAY_UP=0 DELAY_DOWN=0 API_MODE=auto SHUTDOWN=yes WAIT_ON_FORK=no MONITOR=no ARGS= I've checked the manpage but there is no reference to these variables... Any ideas on this problem? Best regards, -- Paulo J. Matos : pocm [_at_] mega . ist . utl . pt Instituto Superior Tecnico - Lisbon Computer and Software Eng. - A.I. - http://mega.ist.utl.pt/~pocm --- - God had a deadline... So, he wrote it all in Lisp! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] /sbin/splash
Hi all, This is an issue that is affecting everyone, a month or so ago while emerging system when I boot and shutdown messages from /sbin/splash show up a lot. Why isn't this working ok now? Is there any quick fix? Will there be any long term solution? Best regards, -- Paulo J. Matos : pocm [_at_] mega . ist . utl . pt Instituto Superior Tecnico - Lisbon Computer and Software Eng. - A.I. - http://mega.ist.utl.pt/~pocm --- - God had a deadline... So, he wrote it all in Lisp! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 December 2003 09:03, Daniel Jiseok Song wrote: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=45627highlight=kmail+authenticati on I think there is a bug in Kmail about authentication. And Im afraid its not fixed yet and more. I have been doing some work on adding SMTP AUTH support into qpsmtpd (a qmail-smtpd replacement in perl), and found that kmail from kde-cvs doesn't appear to do plain auth properly. It looks like it is sending 'usernameusernamepassword' in response to the username request, and the 'MAIL FROM:' in response to the password! It does do login properly though. If you want to check manually, telnet to the smtp server and: 'EHLO whatever.com' Check the output, it will list the available AUTH methods. 'auth plain' or login, ignore any -md5 methods, I doubt you can do base64 encoded md5 hashes in your head :) Input your username and password as requested, then try a 'MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and see what you get. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/336MInuLMrk7bIwRAjviAJ4/QLdKIPHwyD+uXZe8e+Bd8y7EvgCgoeh3 2BgElFMeXk8I6IPJ77sV/ZM= =787K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_TMPDIR
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:46:51 -0800, Yrjö Hatakka muttered: Viestissä Maanantai 15. Joulukuuta 2003 01:24, Oliver Lange kirjoitti: you may well delete /var/tmp/portage/* as long as you're not currently emerging some software. For example: rm -R /var/tmp/portage/* Don't do this! do : cd /var/tmp/portage/ rm -R * or disaster awaits What's the difference? -- Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 21:43, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: -Original Message- From: Nick Fisher GNOME KDE use flags Ok... so there are gnome and kde USE flags. The descriptions aren't too informative... things like 'adds support for gnome'. Now as I understand it XFCE is quite gnome like... should I then use the -gnome flag when compiling X apps to use in XFCE? Or is using that flag only going to be populating some directory only gnome uses? You want -gnome and -kde, since you would never use those features. The gnome and kde add stuff like session management, which XFCE doesn't use. FYI, XFCE4 has session management that is masked in portage, but works perfectly here... -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
well, as for -gtk2 USE flag this is what guide for USE flags says: gtk Adds support for x11-libs/gtk+ (The GIMP Toolkit) gtk2 Use gtk+-2.0.0 over gtk+-1.2 in cases where a program supports both. so -gtk2 doesn't switch gtk off :) there has been something about this in some Gentoo Newsletter, but i don't remember when... On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:39:45PM -0500, Nick Fisher wrote: GTK2 When reading the docs this line jumped out at me: All XFce 4 modules depend on GTK2 I thought that stange as I don't have gtk2 installed. Anyone out there understand that? Are the two gtk libs close enough that XFCE can be fooled into thinking that gtk is gtk2? No, they have different APIs, I really doubt you don't have gtk2 installed. It's seems bloomin odd to me I'll say that. However, portage seems quite firm on the idea that I have gtk+-1.2. I can only find gtk+-1.2 docs and binarys... Having said that I'm kinda working in the dark here knowing so little about gtk+. Can you think of any good tests I could try to confirm or deny? While I'm on the subject if anyone has any pros/cons regarding gtk vs gtk2 I would love to hear them. I haven't done much with X and this is all a alien. Any good links to discussions on this topic would also be cool Most people think gtk2 is a lot nicer than gtk1, but it can also be much slower in some situations AFAIK. Hummm I have a 166 thinkpad with 80MB I'm thinking this might be one of those situations. Nick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
It's seems bloomin odd to me I'll say that. However, portage seems quite firm on the idea that I have gtk+-1.2. I can only find gtk+-1.2 docs and binarys... Having said that I'm kinda working in the dark here knowing so little about gtk+. Can you think of any good tests I could try to confirm or deny? Emerge gentoolkit if you haven't got it installed and then you can query portage what versions of applications that are installed with 'qpkg -v -Iappname' or just 'qpkg -v -I' to see all installed applications and their respective versions. Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Mounting proc at /proc
Hi all, My init process is freezing after the above line is output to the screen. The only thing I can think that I've done since the last boot is emerged autofs, but I haven't even added it to the startup scripts yet. Could this be affecting it? There's nothing wrong with the disk, cause I can mount it with knoppix. Any ideas? Thanks, Ben _ Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Norberto Bensa wrote: Jeff Smelser wrote: Servers don't need bleeding egde, it needs consistancy.. No one is forcing you to install bleeding edge software. Install Gentoo on a spare test box, test it; and if everything goes OK, put it to work. Then only deploy security updates (after testing of course.) I think you'll find the problem comes when deploying those security updates via portage. Suddenly, glibc needs rebuilt, etc, etc to get the needed security fix. Now, I think portage is great, but Jeff is on target that there are features missing for a production server. Bill Carlson -- Systems Administrator[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Anything is possible, Virtual Hospital http://www.vh.org/ | given time and money. University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics | Opinions are mine, not my employer's. | -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
-Original Message- From: Tom Wesley On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 21:43, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: -Original Message- From: Nick Fisher GNOME KDE use flags Ok... so there are gnome and kde USE flags. The descriptions aren't too informative... things like 'adds support for gnome'. Now as I understand it XFCE is quite gnome like... should I then use the -gnome flag when compiling X apps to use in XFCE? Or is using that flag only going to be populating some directory only gnome uses? You want -gnome and -kde, since you would never use those features. The gnome and kde add stuff like session management, which XFCE doesn't use. FYI, XFCE4 has session management that is masked in portage, but works perfectly here... Is it gnome/kde session management or XFCE session management? I assume the stuff that you have is specific to XFCE, so he should still use -gnome and -kde. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
Ok... so there are gnome and kde USE flags. The descriptions aren't too informative... things like 'adds support for gnome'. Now as I understand it XFCE is quite gnome like... should I then use the -gnome flag when compiling X apps to use in XFCE? Or is using that flag only going to be populating some directory only gnome uses? You want -gnome and -kde, since you would never use those features. The gnome and kde add stuff like session management, which XFCE doesn't use. FYI, XFCE4 has session management that is masked in portage, but works perfectly here... Hummm well I've just worked out I don't have XFCE4 (blush) I actually have XFCE3 explains why I was having so many problems with the docs too ;) anyhow Session management? I'm not 100% what you mean in this context what 'session' is being managed in what way? Are we talking about the X session? As in the state of the session is managed so that I can shutdown, reboot and have the desktop back the way I left it? Do kde, gnome and xfce all do this differently? I personally thought that the kde and gnome flags would be used to install desktop icons n' stuff. Is it truly pointless using the gnome and kde flags unless you are running either the gnome or kde desktops? I would think that they were made into flags in the first place becuase several different window managers emulate both of them.. I'm still very fuzzy on all this... Nick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to force reinstallation
I did emerge ati-drivers to get 3D accelleration. Unfortunately this doesn't work for my card (Asus Radeon 9800XT) as soon as I switch OpenGL to use the ATI provided library. I did this with opengl-update ati as the installation told me to. since this doesn't work and KDE breaks on startup I wanted to switch back to Mesa but opengl-update xfree didn't help and it told me there is only xfree or nvidia as an option. So how can I switch back to mesa? I tried emerge unmerge ati-drivers wich succesfully removed the ATI drivers, but it didn't return my system to the previous state so that I couldn't run KDE either. Actually I can use the ATI drviers currently I only may not use the OpenGL lib from ATI to run KDE. I hope they fix this soon. :( -- Gerhard Gruber Maintainer of SoftICE for Linux - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pice Fast application launcher - http://sourceforge.net/projects/launchmenu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] oops! my date is 14 years ahead!
Matthieu Amiguet wrote: Perhaps I'm asking too much but... dates of files should be OK except for the year... is there a way to fix the year only, keeping day and month? Matthieu Yes, it's possible, but (I like to say: On unixes nearly everything is possible.) 1. Nothing needs it ( except of u ) in this case. 2. U can write simple script for it, which will take old date, assemble new one and put it as argument to touch command It's a nice exercise for u, isn't it ? :-) noro -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
-Original Message- From: Nick Fisher FYI, XFCE4 has session management that is masked in portage, but works perfectly here... Session management? I'm not 100% what you mean in this context what 'session' is being managed in what way? Are we talking about the X session? As in the state of the session is managed so that I can shutdown, reboot and have the desktop back the way I left it? Exactly. Do kde, gnome and xfce all do this differently? You are getting into a fuzzy are of my knowledge, but here goes. Any X window manager can remember window size and position. In this way, kde, gnome, and xfce would be the same. Other session information, like what files you have open, what web pages you have open (in case of a browser), and etc. (app dependant sorta stuff) is specific to kde, gnome, and possible xfce. I kinda doubt that XFCE will have more than window size position management, but I don't know. I hope somebody more knowledgable than me will correct me. I personally thought that the kde and gnome flags would be used to install desktop icons n' stuff. I assume gnome and kde flags install this kinda of stuff, as well as the session management. Probably menu placement as well. Is it truly pointless using the gnome and kde flags unless you are running either the gnome or kde desktops? I would assume so. But once again I hope someone more knowledgable than me will correct me. I would think that they were made into flags in the first place becuase several different window managers emulate both of them.. I'm still very fuzzy on all this... -Nathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mounting usb-storage devices at different points
I have two usb-storage devices (a digital camera and a flash drive) that I plug in at random. Right now I have /dev/sda1 /mnt/jumpdrive in my /etc/fstab for my flash drive. But if I plug in my digital camera, it's sda1 too, so it gets mounted under /mnt/jumpdrive as well. Not a life-or-death issue, but is it possible to do the following: if device is flash drive, map to /dev/sda if device is digital camera, map to /dev/sdb -- Joel Konkle-Parker Webmaster [Ballsome.com] Phone [+1 662-518-1636] E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] How to force reinstallation
-Original Message- From: Gerhard W.Gruber I did emerge ati-drivers to get 3D accelleration. Unfortunately this doesn't work for my card (Asus Radeon 9800XT) as soon as I switch OpenGL to use the ATI provided library. I did this with opengl-update ati as the installation told me to. since this doesn't work and KDE breaks on startup I wanted to switch back to Mesa but opengl-update xfree didn't help and it told me there is only xfree or nvidia as an option. So how can I switch back to mesa? opengl-update xfree does switch back to mesa (the one merged into xfree). I tried emerge unmerge ati-drivers wich succesfully removed the ATI drivers, but it didn't return my system to the previous state so that I couldn't run KDE either. When you unmerged the ati-drivers, did you switch the driver in XFree86 from fglrx to the ati (or radeon, i can never remember which) one? Actually I can use the ATI drviers currently I only may not use the OpenGL lib from ATI to run KDE. I hope they fix this soon. :( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_TMPDIR
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 22:52, Andrew Farmer wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:46:51 -0800, Yrjö Hatakka muttered: Viestissä Maanantai 15. Joulukuuta 2003 01:24, Oliver Lange kirjoitti: you may well delete /var/tmp/portage/* as long as you're not currently emerging some software. For example: rm -R /var/tmp/portage/* Don't do this! do : cd /var/tmp/portage/ rm -R * or disaster awaits What's the difference? You could accidently type rm -R /var/tmp/portage/ * (notice the space) and delete the current directory as well. Or even worse if you type a space after any of the slashes wiping out your / or /var or /var/tmp. Cheers, Renat -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_TMPDIR
you may well delete /var/tmp/portage/* as long as you're not currently emerging some software. For example: rm -R /var/tmp/portage/* Don't do this! do : cd /var/tmp/portage/ rm -R * or disaster awaits What's the difference? None, but if not careful you might delete more than you intended. For example if you accidently hit a space between portage and the last slash. If you first see to it that your in the correct directory you have at least some more security... Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] quake3-nsco
Hey guys, Does anyone know if bots are possible in quake3-nsco? I've tried adding and I get the message unknown cmd addbot or something close to that effect...is it my fault? Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_TMPDIR
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:33:41 -0800, Patrick Börjesson muttered: None, but if not careful you might delete more than you intended. For example if you accidently hit a space between portage and the last slash. If you first see to it that your in the correct directory you have at least some more security... Ah, fair enough. I wasn't considering operator error... silly me. -- Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting proc at /proc
Ben Anderson wrote: My init process is freezing after the above line is output to the screen. it means, that proc is probably mounted and something next fails Check the contents of /etc/fstab ... noro -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Issues
yes..that does seem to be the issue.when i boot from the cd and then chroot to my system partition and use 'mount', it errors out with mount: /lib/libc.so.6 : version GLIBC_2.3.3' not found (required by mount). So that'd be my problemas the latest stable release of 'glibc' is 2.3.2 now for the really stupid questions.how do i recompile 'mount'? i've looked around on packages.gentoo.org and tried reemerging coreutils...but that didn't seem to do it... also...i looked at the man page for emerge...and i didn't see anything that looked like rebuild-ing. I dont mind having my computer sit for a day or two recompiling the entire system...but I just can't figure out how to make emerge recompile everything Thanks for the help, Brendan - Original Message - From: Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Issues On Tuesday 16 December 2003 23:15, Brendan Sullivan wrote: Ok, this is being pretty hard for me to pin down... I had accidentally updated world with the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 flag set... Well, it seemingly didn't break much...booted fineno errors that i ran into in daily use of the machinebut i had a day when i had time, so i commented out the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS flag and re-updated the system. Now, the linux stops booting when it gets to Mounting /proc I booted from the cd and recompiled my kernel making sure the kernel had /proc filesystem support...and copied it to the boot partitionbut to no avail. kernel i'm working with - Gentoo sources - linux 2.4.20-r8 Any ideas? It sounds like your mount is broken. When downgrading like that, a lot of the compiler tools generate bad executables during the time that there is a mixture of x86 and ~x86. At a minimum, try recompiling mount and then anything else that appears to be broken. Personally, I'd suggest rebuilding all of world once more. -- Regards, Jason Stubbs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quake3-nsco
i know it does worki've done it before. command should look like /addbot name i think you get an error like that if you dont put a '/' in front of the command Brendan - Original Message - From: Simon Mushi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:36 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] quake3-nsco Hey guys, Does anyone know if bots are possible in quake3-nsco? I've tried adding and I get the message unknown cmd addbot or something close to that effect...is it my fault? Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] pgsql.so
where can I find the the postgresql module for php4? -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage over nfs
For what it's worth, I nfs mount /usr/portage/distfiles and have the one machine with an internet connection also be an rsync server. Other gentoo machines on the network get their sync from the local machine, and then share the same distfiles over nfs. Perhaps not the best way to go about it, but it works for my environment. Sean -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_TMPDIR
Yrjö Hatakka wrote: Viestissä Maanantai 15. Joulukuuta 2003 01:24, Oliver Lange kirjoitti: you may well delete /var/tmp/portage/* as long as you're not currently emerging some software. For example: rm -R /var/tmp/portage/* Don't do this! do : cd /var/tmp/portage/ rm -R * Ok ok... What's the difference? Noberto -- Linux 2.4.23-aa1 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux 19:31:50 up 19:00, 1 user, load average: 0.11, 0.06, 0.01 pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
Bill Carlson wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Norberto Bensa wrote: Jeff Smelser wrote: Servers don't need bleeding egde, it needs consistancy.. No one is forcing you to install bleeding edge software. I think you'll find the problem comes when deploying those security updates via portage. Suddenly, glibc needs rebuilt, etc, etc to get the needed security fix. Not much different than Debian, RH, etc. Regards, Norberto pgp0.pgp Description: signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you for the reply. I've already tried that. But it didn't seem to work at all to me. It responds nothing. When I click the button Check what server supports it is disabled and no response. I had waited for a while but I got no message. Daniel Jiseok Song - -Original Message- From: Jason Stubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem On Tuesday 16 December 2003 11:26, Daniel Jiseok Song wrote: Whe using mozilla mail, I can send e-mail via SMTP with secure authentication server. I just check Use secure authentication checkbox, its done. But using Kmail, I always fail to send. It just saying my IP is rejected relaying by the mail server. There are some menus for selecting authentication in Kmail (I think login method is used in that mail server.) But any of them goes same, rejected. How can I send a mail via SMTP secure authentication server with Kmail? The easiest way is to enable Server requires authentication, enter your login details and then click Check what server supports. I haven't had it fail yet. Jason - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/36VjgnI3iXjheY8RAogpAJ4tR7unVDUZ7YLqTs08774ZmQHgkwCfZGw1 ZqIf2I8wBJH7X0/tFIQVeGg= =CSGZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6test11+ framebuffer + nvidia
On 20:00 Fri 12 Dec , Redeeman wrote: i use vesafb with 16k colors 1280x1024, anyone know how to get 1600x1200? if i just type vga=the_code_for_that_resolution it doesent work :( i think i need to use rivafb :( I'm having the same problem here (I've got a GeForce FX 5900 Ultra). I can't seem to get 1600x1200, which I'd really like since it's my monitor's native resolution. Anybody have this working? Also, does rivafb cooperate with the nvidia closed-source driver? If so, we may be able to run that. Thanks a lot. -Rainer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you very much. I cannot check Kmail now because I'm in work now. My Gentoo box is in my home. But I tried to telnet to the SMTP server and got this message. = $ telnet mail.myisp.com smtp Trying xxx.xxx.xxx.170... Connected to mail.myisp.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mp01.myisp.com ESMTP Terrace Internet Messaging Server 3.5300. EHLO whatever.com 250-mp01.myisp.com Pleased to meet you 250-SIZE 12582912 250-8BITMIME 250-HELP 250-PIPELINING 250-AUTH 250-AUTH=LOGIN 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES === But I don't know what to do next. When I just input my id, I got unrecognized command syntax error. With regards, Daniel Jiseok Song WooriTG Inc. Tel. : 82-2-2102-5396 Fax : 82-2-886-8560 Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home : http://www.wooriTG.com - -Original Message- From: Mike Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 6:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 December 2003 09:03, Daniel Jiseok Song wrote: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=45627highlight=kmail+authenticati on I think there is a bug in Kmail about authentication. And Im afraid its not fixed yet and more. I have been doing some work on adding SMTP AUTH support into qpsmtpd (a qmail-smtpd replacement in perl), and found that kmail from kde-cvs doesn't appear to do plain auth properly. It looks like it is sending 'usernameusernamepassword' in response to the username request, and the 'MAIL FROM:' in response to the password! It does do login properly though. If you want to check manually, telnet to the smtp server and: 'EHLO whatever.com' Check the output, it will list the available AUTH methods. 'auth plain' or login, ignore any -md5 methods, I doubt you can do base64 encoded md5 hashes in your head :) Input your username and password as requested, then try a 'MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and see what you get. - - -- Mike Williams - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/336MInuLMrk7bIwRAjviAJ4/QLdKIPHwyD+uXZe8e+Bd8y7EvgCgoeh3 2BgElFMeXk8I6IPJ77sV/ZM= =787K - -END PGP SIGNATURE- - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/36ecgnI3iXjheY8RArZjAKCcvzZyLsWFSnEyhkwjSgz4jyXMDgCcDPh8 zJAO8iXwB9umqKxFMrkmy7k= =1oXu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quake3-nsco
Dear Brendan, Will give it a try...i wasn't typing the command myself but rather using the menu...let me try the command. ...nope..it didn't work...same error message of unknown command addbot I;m running the latest1.9 beta with Q3 1.32b...does that match your install? Simon On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Brendan Sullivan wrote: i know it does worki've done it before. command should look like /addbot name i think you get an error like that if you dont put a '/' in front of the command Brendan - Original Message - From: Simon Mushi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:36 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] quake3-nsco Hey guys, Does anyone know if bots are possible in quake3-nsco? I've tried adding and I get the message unknown cmd addbot or something close to that effect...is it my fault? Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 December 2003 04:31 pm, Norberto Bensa wrote: Bill Carlson wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Norberto Bensa wrote: Jeff Smelser wrote: Servers don't need bleeding egde, it needs consistancy.. No one is forcing you to install bleeding edge software. I think you'll find the problem comes when deploying those security updates via portage. Suddenly, glibc needs rebuilt, etc, etc to get the needed security fix. Not much different than Debian, RH, etc. Actually no, rh keeps you at certain versions. We they moved to gcc3, I didn't have to upgrade to it, 5.2 sill had the same set of software.. Debian is not classified for servers.. AT ALL. So I don't know where your getting that. What company you know thinks debian when he wants to install linux on a server. - -- Weird enough for government work. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/36w8ld4MRA3gEwYRAu5xAJ9MlF/ZNeNyBfpOTyQ6njvqYYa8aQCcCmP8 e/K4IUDeY6CEkXR57RWIgsw= =8CVd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usermod hangs
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: usermod takes an extemely long time to run the following command: usermod -g users -G wheel,audio,games,users,slocate,portage,apache doug Is there something wrong with this command? I don't understand why this would take any amount of time. First thing that comes to mind, check /etc/nsswitch.conf to see if you're looking up user or group info from places other than files. -- CAUTION: Product will be hot after heating -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
-Original Message- From: Jeff Smelser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly Not much different than Debian, RH, etc. Actually no, rh keeps you at certain versions. We they moved to gcc3, I didn't have to upgrade to it, 5.2 sill had the same set of software.. I'm with you on that. The all-inclusive nature of portage's dependencies drives me nuts sometimes. And the all-inclusive nature of ebuilds sometimes drives me nuts (I'd like a good way to exclude ALL multimedia builds from, say, gnome just as an example). Debian is not classified for servers.. AT ALL. So I don't know where your getting that. What company you know thinks debian when he wants to install linux on a server. Not sure what makes you say that. I don't know many people who use Linux in general for production servers. Those that do that I'm aware of use RedHat. But it has nothing to do with classified for servers at all. It has to do with the fact that RedHat provides support for their OS. To any organization that would need a server, that's typically important. As for Debian on servers, it probably makes a lot more sense than most other distros for the exact reason why I hate running it on my desktop -- they strive for stability which means they are typically a couple/few revs back since they only use known stable/secure versions at any given time (secure being a moving target). Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 December 2003 07:20 pm, Ric Messier wrote: Not sure what makes you say that. I don't know many people who use Linux in general for production servers. Those that do that I'm aware of use RedHat. But it has nothing to do with classified for servers at all. It has to do with the fact that RedHat provides support for their OS. To any organization that would need a server, that's typically important. I never have had the chance to run debian, I thought there were more, up to date.. I was wrong.. - -- The three Rs of Microsoft support: Retry, Reboot, Reinstall. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/37Cild4MRA3gEwYRAlAoAJ9OWTAju9pgInMDkcL8CnuIf6PcugCgqnR1 zOUdBkYv29rotiq/CP45f+4= =7LlU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 09:07, Jeff Smelser wrote: Debian is not classified for servers.. AT ALL. So I don't know where your getting that. What company you know thinks debian when he wants to install linux on a server. Huh??? Are you a troll? A quote from Netcraft: Despite the absence of funding, Debian is the second most popular Linux distribution we find on internet web sites, surpassed only by Red Hat, and leaving the likes of SuSE and Mandrake in its wake. Full story at http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/ debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html Maybe they just forgot to tell them... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 December 2003 07:26 pm, Ladislav Bodnar wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2003 09:07, Jeff Smelser wrote: Debian is not classified for servers.. AT ALL. So I don't know where your getting that. What company you know thinks debian when he wants to install linux on a server. Huh??? Are you a troll? Listen moron. I didn't say anything about the popularity.. We are talking servers here. you want to get with the program here before you get on here flaming.. Troll.. - -- Tagline generated by 'gensig' mail-client-independent .signature generator. Get your copy at http://www.geeks.com/~robf/gensig/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/37Ivld4MRA3gEwYRApjZAKDhIQjbKHd06HEU20RWslJqRrAJGACgyQh4 o256Y8iZzu+CkGb6VoIpZKg= =lV3m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quake3-nsco
ok...i apologize.i was thinking of the wrong mod for quake...i was thinking of Urban Terror. sorry about thati really dont have any idea about nsco Brendan - Original Message - From: Simon Mushi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] quake3-nsco Dear Brendan, Will give it a try...i wasn't typing the command myself but rather using the menu...let me try the command. ...nope..it didn't work...same error message of unknown command addbot I;m running the latest1.9 beta with Q3 1.32b...does that match your install? Simon On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Brendan Sullivan wrote: i know it does worki've done it before. command should look like /addbot name i think you get an error like that if you dont put a '/' in front of the command Brendan - Original Message - From: Simon Mushi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:36 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] quake3-nsco Hey guys, Does anyone know if bots are possible in quake3-nsco? I've tried adding and I get the message unknown cmd addbot or something close to that effect...is it my fault? Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 09:32, Jeff Smelser wrote: Listen moron. I didn't say anything about the popularity.. We are talking servers here. you want to get with the program here before you get on here flaming.. Troll.. The article I quoted from is by Netcraft. Netcraft is an organisation that monitors millions of web servers running various operating systems. I repeat again - web servers, with a special emphasis on the word servers. And despite your claim that Debian is not classified for servers AT ALL, Netcraft has found that among the millions of web servers running a Linux operating system, Debian is the second most widely used. I might be a moron, but at least I check my facts before hitting the send button. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 December 2003 07:55 pm, Ladislav Bodnar wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2003 09:32, Jeff Smelser wrote: Listen moron. I didn't say anything about the popularity.. We are talking servers here. you want to get with the program here before you get on here flaming.. Troll.. The article I quoted from is by Netcraft. Netcraft is an organisation that monitors millions of web servers running various operating systems. I repeat again - web servers, with a special emphasis on the word servers. And despite your claim that Debian is not classified for servers AT ALL, Netcraft has found that among the millions of web servers running a Linux operating system, Debian is the second most widely used. I might be a moron, but at least I check my facts before hitting the send button. See, instead of getting what we are talking about, you just want to flame away.. I run a server, so whats that prove?? Server WE are refering to, is company. Ibm, people like that.. Not people like use who run a web server for whatever else.. Fact is, redhat wins there because of support. not because they are the best.. Kinda like microsoft.. so, lets stat again.. You wanna flame, thats your problem, but like I said, get YOUR facts straight... Debian is not number 2 in commercial support, which is what we are talking about.. Debian is a good dist from what I hear, no one was here saying it wasn't.. Your getting all in a high horse over nothing.. geez. - -- Loose bits sink chips. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/37lCld4MRA3gEwYRAlQ+AJ95MgIm3esshwvBbbwZ/RCewzTxTACfZSHu PBYjuojcWDLCuKn4PdjSt9I= =H6Ek -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] postfix w/o maildir
ok, i have postfix installed and running, and it's recieving mail, but it doesn't show up in pine or pop mailboxes, it's there when i look at the postoffice in webmin, but i can't get to them -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] postfix w/o maildir
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:23:25 -0600 (CST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, i have postfix installed and running, and it's recieving mail, but it doesn't show up in pine or pop mailboxes, it's there when i look at the postoffice in webmin, but i can't get to them Does it by any chance show in /var/spool/mail ? -- /~\ The ASCIIAndrej Ticho Kacian andrej at kacian dot sk \ / Ribbon Campaign GnuPG public key ID: 7CD93FE2 (pgp.mit.edu) X Against HTML Key fingerprint: / \ Email! E87D 9DEF 2A23 6FFB 7AD9 542F 4253 3A46 7CD9 3FE2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] lm-sensors
Wes Gray wrote: When I try to emerge lm-sensors it says: !!! ERROR: sys-apps/lm-sensors-2.7.0-r1 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 40, Exitcode 2 !!! lm_sensors requires the source of a compatible kernel\nversion installed in /usr/src/linux and =i2c-2.7.0 support built as a modules this support is included in gentoo-sources as of 2.4.20-r1 I have vanilla-2.4.23 kernel. I am pretty sure I previously had lm-sensors working with an older vanilla kernel. Also an old version of sensors-detect that I have hanging around says that I need i2c-viapro and i2c-riva modules, but I don't see these in linux/.config. I guess if I had the right kernel they would exist? Is gentoo-sources really required for lm-sensors? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Hi, Here is what i did to have lm-sensors work with my kernel-2.4.23-grsec. 1.While compiling the kernel set i2c-support ot something and made i2c-core, i2c-proc and maybe i2c-dev to compile as modules. Later added them to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4. 2.emerged lm-sensors w/o errors. 3.Run sensors-detect and gave some answers about which modules to use, etc. /eeprom, i2c-viapro, w83781d, i2c-isa - are mine/. 4.Now see that i have lm-sensors started with - rc-update add lm-sensors default 5.emerged ksensors, all OK, run it with success, it gave some reliable info, but i'm not using it much, just playing. 5.As far as i remember /from mailing-list/ full support for lm-sensors comes with 2.6-kernel. Don't remember how it loads the detected modules, maybe with lm-sensors started. PS: I couldn't set up gkrellm2. Hope this helps. Rumen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: pgsql.so
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 19:12, Ted Ozolins wrote: where can I find the the postgresql module for php4? It's installed with PHP. You might need to have postgres in your USE flag, not sure. -- James Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 09:37, Daniel Jiseok Song wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you for the reply. I've already tried that. But it didn't seem to work at all to me. It responds nothing. When I click the button Check what server supports it is disabled and no response. I had waited for a while but I got no message. Yeah, the UI is a bit unintuitive in this particular case. Eventually, all the combo boxes that are found to be not supported will be disabled. Some sort of progress information would be great. -- Regards, Jason Stubbs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Issues
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 08:57, Brendan Sullivan wrote: yes..that does seem to be the issue.when i boot from the cd and then chroot to my system partition and use 'mount', it errors out with mount: /lib/libc.so.6 : version GLIBC_2.3.3' not found (required by mount). So that'd be my problemas the latest stable release of 'glibc' is 2.3.2 now for the really stupid questions.how do i recompile 'mount'? i've looked around on packages.gentoo.org and tried reemerging coreutils...but that didn't seem to do it... also...i looked at the man page for emerge...and i didn't see anything that looked like rebuild-ing. I dont mind having my computer sit for a day or two recompiling the entire system...but I just can't figure out how to make emerge recompile everything mount is part of sys-apps/util-linux. To recompile everything you can use emerge -e world. -- Regards, Jason Stubbs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting usb-storage devices at different points
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 07:58, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: I have two usb-storage devices (a digital camera and a flash drive) that I plug in at random. Right now I have /dev/sda1 /mnt/jumpdrive in my /etc/fstab for my flash drive. But if I plug in my digital camera, it's sda1 too, so it gets mounted under /mnt/jumpdrive as well. Not a life-or-death issue, but is it possible to do the following: if device is flash drive, map to /dev/sda if device is digital camera, map to /dev/sdb Check this week's GWN. There's a mention of a thread in the forums discussing this very functionality - with solution. -- Regards, Jason Stubbs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail SMTP secure authentication problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you. So I should wait with patience. I'll try again when I get back home. :-) Regards, Daniel Jiseok Song Yeah, the UI is a bit unintuitive in this particular case. Eventually, all the combo boxes that are found to be not supported will be disabled. Some sort of progress information would be great. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/3/grgnI3iXjheY8RAm/5AJwIjnpsPWQoJmwghClPm1sGaLQ/DgCfWOFI kSgJMgyeOaqIxUfol1oxjg4= =ti9U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
