Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Securing files in a USB stick
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 17:54 +0100, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote: I would like to put some sensitive information in my USB stick, so I can take it with me (ssh private keys, I had the same issue. I travel a *lot*, and so sooner or later a hard drive will die, or a laptop will get stolen, or... So I carry (wear around my neck) a USB key. Whenever I've done more than a few lines of work on something, I just simple copy it onto the usbkey - a draft document, some source code - no big deal. But corporate documents, my archive of presentations, my web site code and source code-in-progress, taken together, that certainly needs to be encrypted. Use GPG and encrypt the files. So a few months ago, I wrote something to make tarballs of important hierarchies in my home directory and then sign/encrypt them, and then push them to { usbkey | remote server }. I just use standard GPG encryption with myself as the recipient. That, of course, implies I have my private key to decrypt those tarballs... I've been reading a bit about GPG (I haven't used it before) and it seems ... only difference between them seem to be that GPG trust is based on a decentralized web of trust [ remember that trust is irrelevant if you are using asymmetric encryption when sending something to yourself - you by definition have the private half of the your own key pair. (In GPG terms, that's ultimate trust) ] I guess in this case I should include the private key as a unencrypted file in my USB stick and protect it with a good password, as it will be used whenever I need to decrypt any file. Am I right? Even more important than all the documents and what-not are my ssh keys and pgp keys + trustdb. Naturally, if I'm storing those against the possibility of loosing my machine (naturally causes or otherwise), using asymmetric encryption is no good because I wouldn't have the private key available to recover the data! So, as suggested elsewhere in this thread, I store the private crypto information in a separate tarball which I encrypt using gpg's symmetric facility. ++ Naturally, a script to do all this is a natural idea. Well, I wrote one, and it got out of hand. :) You're welcome to use it. It's called geode. http://www.operationaldynamics.com/reference/software/scripts/#geode [You'll need to customize it a bit, as it's obviously specific to my paths and usage cases] If nothing else it's a good example of how to use some of the more obscure gpg options. It's also a good example of how to use zenity (a little command line front-end for creating GTK dialog boxes). I used it to ask for the pass phrases and to pop up a progress bar of how far it has worked through the .tar.bz2 creation. AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Managing Director OPERATIONAL DYNAMICS A management consultancy in the IT Operations space. We are available worldwide and specialize in technology strategy, changes upgrades, enterprise architecture, and performance improvement for mission critical systems the people who run them. Sydney: +61 2 9977 6866 New York: +1 646 472 5054 Toronto: +1 416 848 6072 London: +44 207 1019201 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrade berkeley db
On Thu, 2005-24-02 at 15:31 -0800, Andy McCarty wrote: I would like to use db-4.2.52. But this is masked... I've been using db-4.2.52 for over 6 months now. It's stable and reliable. The ebuilds in portage worked fine; no need to do a manual install. AfC Sydney -- Stop the insanity! Campaign to get rid of Reply-To munging today! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Straight To X/KDE
On Mon, 2005-14-02 at 22:36 -0700, Mike Melanson wrote: Now I think I would like to make it boot directly into a graphical Windows environment (X/KDE) on startup rather than having to login and type 'startx'. Call me a lame Windows user if you will. It's /etc/init.d/xdm that you're looking for. Add xdm to your default runlevel, for example, # rc-update add xdm default And, make sure /etc/rc.conf is configured to pick whichever your choice of desktop is. AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Principal OPERATIONAL DYNAMICS Operations Consultants and Infrastructure Engineers specializing in large installation systems administration, enterprise architecture, and performance improvement for both the systems and the people who run them http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what happened to my 'clean' font?
On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 08:47, Matthew Baxa wrote: Where actually is a good place to search the list? Some people use gmane.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user AfC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No /dev/dsp created with Alsa?
On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 04:05, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: ALSA does not build the OSS compat code into it unless OSS is set in the USE variable. Is this the way we want it? Somewhat tangentially, If I have 2.4 system, built happily a year ago with USE=-alsa, and I want to upgrade to 2.6 and switch to ALSA, then how do I approach that? Switching the USE variable is obvious, sure :) [as is configure ALSA in 2.6 - thanks] but I'm wondering how to reach through the package stack and recompile that which needs recompiling. AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 Kernel Panic
On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 02:47, Grendel wrote: I do have the ext2/ext3 compiled into the kernel. If it is not as a module but directly builtin to the kernel then it should work. You know what the kernel needs? An lsmod equivalent that shows what IS built in. If I selected Serial as a module, then serial.o will be loadable and shows up in lsmod. From experience, I know what shows up in dmesg when I load serial.o, so on another machine with Serial built in to the kernel, the line or two that goes by at boot about Serial drivers is the same signature and so I can infer serial is built in But we often ask each other questions like do you have eepro100.o loaded... when asking about support, and run into the builtin vs module thing. lsmod -b for built in would be amazing. [I will forward this musing to the kernel module people, shrug] AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mirroring
On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 08:12, Erik Petersen wrote: We would like to setup a mirror for our customers to download gentoo and other Linux updates. I presume you've seen: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml and http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/source_mirrors.xml which have instructions for people setting up mirrors. In there are a few references about how to contact the mirror team. You might contact them directly to learn more specific to your particular situation. Regards, AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] WM that can handle dual-head
On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 07:48, Andrew Farmer wrote: What window managers are recommended that will handle my setup properly? If you have two separate X sessions running, you'll have to run two separate window managers - one for each display. Yeah. You might check out x2x which was the standard solution in this space until XINERAMA came along. AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd What time is it?operationaldynamics.com/time -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome version differences
On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 01:28, Aaron Walker wrote: I just upgraded from gnome-2.4.1 = gnome-2.4.2, however clicking on About GNOME in the gnome-panel submenu still shows ver 2.4.1 with a build date of Dec 19th (when I last installed Gentoo). Have you actually *logged out*? Some things are factory based (ie gnome-terminal) so upgrading the binary won't affect running processes until they're [all] restarted. [I ran in to this (although I was expecting and looking for it)] AfC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome version differences
That is kind of funny - I was using Help-About to look at version numbers. I didn't think of using gnome-about. Spider, I forwarded your message about gnome-about to the Gnome Release Manager. It's really not worth a bug, and Anytime I get to rib Jeff about missing something is a fun day. AfC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound System Noise
On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 17:27, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Dennis Robertson wrote: Can anyone suggest a fix please? Turn off your speakers? Don't kill me I actually find that sometimes the microphone is on when I boot and (on that particular laptop) the sound of my palm sliding over the plastic as I type, not to mention the harddrive whirring, gets picked up by the mic and put through to speaker. In my case, if I run the GNOME sound control and change something, it tends to instruct the mic to shut up. Muting the mic (in the mixer) seems to work a bit too. I never did get a root cause figured out. AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xfree update
On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 09:30, Chuck Mize wrote: But I haven't been using Gentoo long enough to know how messy it is to update packages like xfree and gnome after I've finally gotten them working the way I want them. Minor upgrade (ie Gnome 2.4.0 to 2.4.1) should be seamless. I did just that last night, and after about 10-15 hours of compiling, it's all good. AfC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 07:36, Roy Kidder wrote: I especially miss being able to change between run level 3 (regular multi-user) and run level 5 (gdm/xdm) for system maintenance and stuff. I often found it helpful to have the network started, yet log into a standard terminal when patching, etc. I haven't figured out how to do that in Gentoo yet. You know those rc directories in /etc/runlevel that are built up using the `rc-update add` command? You can do this: rc nonetwork or rc default or rc noX or rc office according to the runlevels you have created (you get the idea). Very nice. [I'd been using Gentoo a year and only just found this one out. Live and learn] AfC Sydney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SpamAssassin not as good as before :(
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 04:28, Diego Zamboni wrote: - Long sequences of random dictionary words in their messages, which perhaps make it look more normal to filters. I use bogofilter (a bayesian filter [only]). When the heap-of-random-dictionary-words technique cropped up, I was really worried - it seemed a good workaround. For a while I started getting 15-20% false negatives. I thought I'd have to ditch and go to a full blown SpamAssassin setup, but I faithfully trained for a week or two, and suddenly, my false negatives are right back down to 1-2 per 1000. My guess [this is entirely unscientific] is that it backfired on them. The dictionary is relatively big, but the set of words commonly used is *really* small in comparison. Because they use words that I and my correspondents *never* use, the score on uncommon words (take lanthanide and dispensary. Who are they kidding?) goes up, and they become clear markers for spam. [I wonder how many people are spam blocking this thread? :)] AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers
Regardless of what port it's on, I've had a horrible time working with the keyserver.net keyserver. It times out all the time, I get EOFs, things like that. I've never actually been sure if I get anything from (not to mention to) there. Then one day (about 5 minutes ago) I did this: gpg --keyserver belgium.keyserver.net --refresh-keys And it just sat there, doing nothing. It's almost as if something is blocking the traffic. I *am* behind a transparent proxy farm that my ISP runs that I can do jack-squat about, so I figured that might be [part of] the problem, but I can talk x-hkp:// to pgp.mit.edu no problem. Very strange. So then I went and did gpg --export --armour 57F6E7BD And cut paste that to the Add a key window of keyserver.net... and get an error saying The keyring you have submitted is invalid What's up with that? Last I checked (and my web of trust isn't too bad) I thought I was doing things right... My guess is something is seriously foobar'd with keyserver.net but that worries me because like half the FOSS world uses their servers. And if it's not them, then...? AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Critical warning: Do not update GLIBC!
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 22:21, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: I can't quite believe that I've lost the entire system to a routine package update on the stable tree. Well, in fairness, one should never upgrade a core library, especially glibc, except as part of a major planned system upgrade. We get so used to Gentoo rocking in most situations that unfortunately it's easy to forget that we can't get away from the tribulations the other distros go through to find a stable gcc+glibc+core+bin+file+libs+... combination. Mucking with any of those things invites a full regression system rebuild at best and a disaster at worst. Use space apps, on the other hand (up to and including GNOME!) are awesome to rebuild if as and when you have a reason to. As soon as I realised I mailed the list. Which is much appreciated by the rest of us - and the strength of the Gentoo community! I'm very sorry that your machine got hosed. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help on rebuild. AfC Sydney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Partition size recommendations
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 05:52, Jani-Matti Hätinen wrote: [ .. separate /boot ...] Plus you can use the most robust filesystem (ext2/3) on it without losing any performance in regular use. (Not that there's that much to be gained with reiserfs or xfs) I've been using reiserfs with NO problems on my main partitions, but for my next build I'll be switching back to ext2 yes, shocking so that I can use noflushd [1] to prevent drive spin up and thus greatly extend my laptop battery when making trans-oceanic flights. [1] http://noflushd.sourceforge.net/ AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Partition size recommendations
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 05:52, Jani-Matti Hätinen wrote: [ .. separate /boot ...] Plus you can use the most robust filesystem (ext2/3) on it without losing any performance in regular use. (Not that there's that much to be gained with reiserfs or xfs) I've been using reiserfs with NO problems on my main partitions, but for my next build I'll be switching back to ext2 yes, shocking so that I can use noflushd [1] to prevent drive spin up and thus greatly extend my laptop battery when making trans-oceanic flights. [1] http://noflushd.sourceforge.net/ AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Subversion masked
On Sat, 2004-01-17 at 03:09, Kurt Guenther wrote: I see that there is an ebuild for subversion, but it is masked. Does anybody know what is up here? How do I find out status, etc? You'd do well to pop into #svn on freenode and lurk and listen for a while. From them, for example, I found out don't use 0.28! Horrible bugs! and was offered advice of what version to go to. I happen to be running 0.29.0 and have been for a while; I know they have moved on considerably from then. AfC Adelaide -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] newbie emerge question.
On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 02:38, Brendan Sullivan wrote: you can specify the exact version you'd like to install by typing emerge -pv /usr/portage/group/package name/specific version . This will allow you to install any version that has an ebuild attached. You can also express this as =group/package, for example: emerge -p =sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 Remember, `etcat versions blah` is your friend. AfC Adelaide -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrade to Gnome 2.4
On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 23:49, raptor wrote: Everything is ok.. only that I cannot create panels !! You should be able to right click on a panel and see New Panel. Click that to add one. If all the panels are gone... you're not supposed to be able to do that (minimum one panel, although you can hide it / slide it)... dunno - there are a bunch of GNOME people here (linux.conf.au), I could ask if you like. AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Blender
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 02:34, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: If blender were to have a lot of dependencies, how would you keep the ~x86 versions from being installed (assuming blender would run with the x86 versions)? Here's what you do: Let's say bender has the following dependencies, as reported by emerge: jibber 0.15.2 foo 1.4 bender 3.0 But you want brand spanking new bender 4.0! You'll use ~arch, of course: jibber 0.17.4 foo 1.5 bender 4.0 So the question you're posing is, do I really need to take the ~arch upgrades of jibber and foo? Answer: let it decide. 1. emerge everything up to but not including the thing you really want, bender, but NOT using ~arch 2. then emerge what you want, but this time using ~arch. IF it needs to upgrade something (because of a required minimum version higher than is in arch) then it will - but it will otherwise leave things with sufficiently high versions alone. Assuming (for example purposes) that ~arch bender 4.0's ebuild knows it can get away with foo =1.4 but requires jibber =0.16 ... then you get: 1. $ emerge foo gets you jibber 0.15.2 foo 1.4 2. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch emerge bender gets you jibber 0.17.4 bender 4.0 but leaves foo 1.4 alone because it's good enough So that's your mix of ~arch stuff, but only where needed. All assumes that the dependencies in the ebuilds are well written. AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Blender
On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 04:10, Thomas Degris wrote: Thanks, why didn't I get this package by emerge -s blender ? I use etcat for this sort of thing. It's in gentoolkit. procyon:~ # qpkg -f /usr/bin/etcat app-portage/gentoolkit * procyon:~ # Do this yourself at home - it's really impressive in full colour: procyon:~ # etcat versions blender [ Results for search key : blender ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * media-gfx/blender : [ ] media-gfx/blender-2.23-r1 (0) [M~ ] media-gfx/blender-2.26 (0) [ ] media-gfx/blender-2.27 (0) [M~ ] media-gfx/blender-2.28a (0) [ ] media-gfx/blender-2.28c (0) [M~ ] media-gfx/blender-2.28 (0) [M~ ] media-gfx/blender-2.30 (0) [M~ ] media-gfx/blender-2.31a (0) [M~ ] media-gfx/blender-2.31 (0) procyon:~ # This shows that blender 2.28c is the latest stable version for my arch. ~ mark packages which are marked ~x86 (for my arch); The M show masked packages (in this case, because I of course am a good boy who doesn't have ~x86 as a default USE variable. If you use the `ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge blender -p` thing that others have mentioned, you'll see the way to pull in the newer version. AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.4.22-r3
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 04:56, Marius Mauch wrote: Both r2 and r3 were fixed yesterday, however to be sure use r3 (the patch was added to r2 after it was already deployed, so it's hard to say wether your installation has it). Sorry to prolong the thread, but isn't this not supposed to happen? Isn't the whole point of -rN to indicate when changes have been made? I can accept that changes flow through CVS on -rX that aren't yet marked stable. But certainly, once marked stable, the content of a particular ebuild shouldn't change, should it? So, (just trying to learn), in this case, what happened? AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Newsgroups gateway
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:38:55 +0100, Gerhard W. Gruber wrote: My newsserver carries linux.gentoo.dev/user. Since I prefer Newsgroups over Mailinglist, I tried to subscribe to them, but the problem is that I have to keep subscribed to the mailinglist as well. What's the point of having a newsgroup, when I can' t send postings to the newsgroup when unsubscribed to the mailinglist? So here's a test, sent via Gmane's gateway. Let's see what happens. [I'm still normally subscribed to gentoo-user via email] AfC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Newsgroups gateway
Ok, so that worked. [I'm sure I'm not breaking new ground here, but] How does one ask the mailing list to switch to nodeliver mode? (as some MLMs call it?) I read the faq at gentoo.org, and the referenced ezmlm page, and it doesn't say anything about such an ability. Perhaps it doesn't exist. Nevertheless, it would be terrific to be able to use news instead of direct email; and Gmane provides the gateway - now all we need is some way to turn off message delivery for @gentoo.org lists we're subscribed to. AfC Sydney On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 11:31, Andrew Cowie wrote: On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:38:55 +0100, Gerhard W. Gruber wrote: My newsserver carries linux.gentoo.dev/user. Since I prefer Newsgroups over Mailinglist, I tried to subscribe to them, but the problem is that I have to keep subscribed to the mailinglist as well. What's the point of having a newsgroup, when I can' t send postings to the newsgroup when unsubscribed to the mailinglist? So here's a test, sent via Gmane's gateway. Let's see what happens. [I'm still normally subscribed to gentoo-user via email] AfC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: sshd
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 23:24:05 -0500, KamaolaKid wrote: Kurt Guenther wrote: What's the procedure for starting sshd with the rc script? rc-update add sshd default To learn more, have a look at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rc-scripts.xml AfC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] on to printing...
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 14:22, Ben Munat wrote: I have a little four port router I use to share my internet connection with my boxes and it has a print server on it. What's the easiest app to use to send my print jobs to it? Personally, I use CUPS. With that being the case, you can quite easily create a printer to which it will try to talk IPP [Internet Printer Protocol, whatever that is - I think it's similar to HP's JetDirect], by using a URL-like ipp://. You can also add socket://, and I think lpd://... so you've got a bunch of things you could try. I travel a lot, and I've had good luck with that from time to time around the world with networked printers [although networked printers can be hard to find in ye ole internet cafe], so that may work for your switch/print server gizmo. Can I just start lpd on boot and have the ip address of the router in some config file somewhere? /etc/printcap, which is a sewer. Do your self a favour. Use CUPS. FWIW, it'll also really pay off if using openoffice-ximian. AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo users of DJBDNS
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 18:42, Joshua Banks wrote: I'm running tinydns and dnscache internally: sys-apps/daemontools-0.76-r3 net-dns/djbdns-1.05-r8 I personally like daemontools supervised things symlinked from /service to /var/local/supervise; I hacked on the qmail-1.03 ebuild a tiny touch to cause that to be the place like so. Have a look at the net-mail/qmail-1.03 ebuilds. They're really nicely done. Was the /service directory automatically created upon emerging daemontools for you?? I think so. Something did. I'm having a hard time tracking down what the differences are between emerging and installing daemontools with Gentoo General rule of thumb with Gentoo - if there's a way of doing it with the tools Gentoo provides, then do so - you'll be far better off over the long haul than building it yourself - after all - that's what Gentoo is there for. [Another example of what I'm getting at is: use /etc/init.d/apache instead of apachectl to up and down Apache] I'm not sure if I did something wrong but I needed to add svscan to the default run-level. Yes, that's all you need to do. Atleast I thought that this is what I needed to do. This works now, but I've been told that svscanboot should've been added to /etc/inittab upon the installation of daemontools and that I shouldn't need to use rc-update add svscan default. No, see above. Do it the Gentoo way. You have to hack it into inittab in other systems, but that's silly. Even though it's a service which ultimately runs other services, it's just a program which depends on things (notably net) so just let Gentoo bring it up when it sees fit. Once svscan is running, then, of course, you can merrily use svc to control things it's children supervise processes are maintaining. AfC Sydney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird System Behavior after Overclocking
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 07:26, Tom Richards wrote: Oh, sorry bout that. And please don't include the entire body of someone else's email just to have a one line response. Take the time to quote the relevant section and reply to that. I don't need to see the whole previous message - It's ok - I'm on the mailing list too - I have a copy. AfC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with custom ebuild
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 20:18, Gerhard W.Gruber wrote: btw: When I next time do a rsync will my ebuild be deleted then? Yes, if you created it in /usr/portage/sys-kernel/vanilla-sources/ Look into the PORTAGE_OVERLAY variable in /etc/make.conf; it will point the way for you to be able to create, say, /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/vanilla-sources/ and put your ebuild there. AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Vanilla install problems
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 08:00, Ullrich Fischer wrote: when I tried to do emerge -u gnome mozilla openoffice kde it chugged for about 48 hours then came up with no more disk space available ... / showed that my 5 GB linux root partition was full. Yes, OpenOffice alone really does require almost 5 GB of space to build. Even more if you have FEATURE=buildpkg set. Most of the space seems to be taken up by /var/tmp which I can't clear out with rmdir because there are hundreds of subdirectories under that all apparently full of files. To nuke subdirectories recursively use rm -r dirname, not rmdir If you no-shit have 5 GB free on whatever partition has /var/tmp on it, then you should be ok. Otherwise, download the openoffice-bin package, and it should just work. AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 North America: +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] custom ebuilds`
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 07:07, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: See the 'B' part? That's pretty appropriate. They break things. They break things badly. It's certainly Buyer Beware. I would like to point out at least one exception (which probably proves the rule), which was the openoffice-ximian ebuild; that got developed and tested a bit at BMG; and formed the substantive base for what is now in Portage. So it's not *all* bad, but I can appreciate Spider's comment about idiots who bug Gentoo developers about problems they're having with externally sourced ebuilds. AfC Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: quote from distrowatch weekly
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 20:47, dave i wrote: You dont have to upgrade anything you dont want to, `emerge -p world` wants to install/upgrade/downgrade 227 packages out of the 517 I have installed, and it hasn't blown up yet Which I think is a critical point. If I run `emerge -p world` I get (today) 82 packages that it wants to upgrade/downgrade/whatever. I wouldn't dare - my system works! That's the key, IMHO - if you only upgrade an individual package (and it's dependencies) when you really think it is necessary (key new feature or bug fix, or perhaps a security issue on an exposed system) then the result is a remarkably stable system - despite the moving target factor. I *am* a little nervous to see what happens if any major package ever *requires* a major glibc upgrade (sigh - hello! the C library is a solved problem! leave it alone!), but hopefully we'll all have lots of heads up for that. In the mean time, as long as they don't require the new version, the existing core libraries can continue along merrily. AfC Toronto -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rc-script trouble
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 20:27, Makurin Roman wrote: I wrote rc-script for linux_logo. How can I disable final [ok] mark ? If you copied another script and it has an `eend` command in it, just remove the eend command. (it's what sends the [ok] or [!!]) I tested it and it seems ok; if it doesn't work, then it's a default behaviour of /sbin/runscript and you'll have to dig deeper. Good luck! AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quiet mode?
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 10:53, sir03me wrote: Can you set me up such that i can read and take part in the mailing list, but don't get emailed? I rather participate via gmane, thus meaning there is no need for my in-box to become filled. For what it's worth, mailing lists that are handled by Mailman have that kind of option (to be a member of the list but not to actively be receiving messages). I'm afraid I can't speak for whether [EMAIL PROTECTED] possess that feature, thought. Best of luck, AfC Toronto -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 04:45, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: Also, the Rio Karma http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=220cat=53 has FLAC and Ogg Vorbis support. Silly question, but does it have Linux support? :) [Presumably a USB mass-storage driver device?] AfC Canberra -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 472 5054 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Odd crashes
On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 03:35, Renat Golubchyk wrote: You can also use the watch command, e.g. watch ps aux would run ps aux every 2 seconds and display the results. If you want to run it every 30 seconds just do watch -n 30 ps aux. man watch for details. BTW, watch is in sys-apps/procps package, so you already have it. This is fantastic. I've wanted a command like this for years. You know what I love about the *nix community? There are always things you don't know, but people out there will actually help and offer suggestions. Thanks for the tip, Renat. AfC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] galeon problems
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 14:24, Chris Bare wrote: I just updated and got Mozilla 1.5 After the update the old version of galeon would not run. It's got something to do with gtk2 ; if you rebuild mozilla (even 1.4) with gtk2 enabled, then your browsers interfaces on top (ie galeon) need to be similarly enabled. Galeon 1.3 is a gtk2 version. I found that I had to USE=gtk2 emerge mozilla then ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 USE=gtk2 emerge galeon which resulted in me getting galeon 1.3.9 (as it then was); everything seems to work fine. AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Font problems
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 15:16, Jason Stubbs wrote: Hmm, my /etc/fonts/local.conf currently contains: ... fontconfig dir/usr/share/fonts/mplus/dir dir/usr/local/share/fonts/dir /fontconfig ... As an aside, to get OpenOffice (and specifically its bullent point lists) to behave, add: dir/opt/OpenOffice.org/share/fonts/truetype/dir to /etc/fonts/local.conf in the above fontconfig section. AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 07:54, Alan wrote: As far as i understand it does not run x twice, rather it runs one instance of x, with a wider screen. I've only run it this way (via nvidia twinview, their version of xinerama) Nvidia seems to offer a best-of-both-worlds solution; using what they called TwinView I've got a 2560x 1024 desktop (across two 1280x1024 montitors) but Nvidia implemented the Xinerama extension (NOTE! You don't use -xinerama on the X command line!) Xinerama information is available to clients (ie the window manager) that need to know. Xinerama support across the X software universe is still a bit spotty, but, notably, one of the major internal enhancements in GNOME 2.4 was much better support here; in almost all cases it does the right thing - in particular, maximize goes to a single monitor, not across the whole two monitor desktop, and GDM puts its login window on one monitor, not spread across two (and thus centered rught in the gap between two, which would be really annoying. Xscreensaver is notable in that any hack which tries to center itself looks a bit dumb as it will be centered in the air gap between two monitors... ... so this is all to say that having XINERAMA (and one X server) seems better than not, and two independent X servers (plus, presumably, x2x)... , but I understand that it can be set up with a second X running if it's desired. For both setups, extensive documentation is available in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-1.0./README.gz [though the run two X servers isn't recommended because then you a) don't get they're built in Xinerama, and, more importantly, you don't get 3D hardware accel on both monitors]. This is all on a [in this case PNY] GForce FX5200 [PCI dual VGA] card. YMMV. No idea how to set it up though, I'm sure there's info in the web forums though. I can make my XF86Config available if someone needs a specific example. Cheers, AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd We focus on improving usabilty, scalabilty, and maintainability - the factors that are the keys to making technology work - through team building, creating effective procedures, and enhancing systems performance. Contact us! http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ Sydney, New York, Toronto, London -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Galeon doing it a lot of late... [was Gentoo SLOW with Seti@home]
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 20:14, Alan wrote: Every once and a while an app will just start spinning and kill off your CPU with it. For what it's worth, I've had a few instances of Galeon spinning out of control and churning 50-80% of system resources - whatever happens to it, it is also doing disk access (wasn't just swapping), and between the two, system grinds to a slow crawl. No idea whether it's Galeon (version 1.3.9 installed), or underlying Mozilla (1.4). I have hints that it may have been a Java (1.4.1) applet (from a loaded web page) going out of control that starts the problem, but nothing conclusive yet. AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 10:03, Andrew Gaffney wrote: As for Xinerama, can any recommend a good doc on setting it up? Thanks. The canonical reference is: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/ Cheers, AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Little tip to speed up GNOME help
You can really speed up GNOME 2.4's help if you do this (as root): `yelp-pregenerate -a` I'd noticed of late that hitting (accidentally or otherwise) F1 while using a GNOME desktop resulted in a really long wait for whichever help page to come up. I did a bit of digging, wondering why it was taking so long; it would seem that it runs the XSLT transform on the source .xml help documents (in /usr/share/gnome/help/*/[LOCALE]/*.xml). While I expected a wait while the page was compiled the first time, subsequent uses don't speed up at all; it keeps regenerating them (unlike modern man implementations which cache the pages once generated the first time). By accident, I came across `yelp-pregenerate`. It takes a .xml argument, and generates the appropriate .html file which is what YELP actually displays. yelp-pregenerate has a -a argument which runs the processor over all your gnome documents; it didn't take too long, and now help loads WAY faster. So, I recommend Yelp does the right thing (tm) if a newer .xml file is installed. I suppose that it would make sense for the system to be able to *save* the results of generating the .html file in the first place, man style; that would presumably involve a similar solution. I'll file a bug with GNOME bugzilla about it. Enjoy ;) AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 212 518 6656 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo 1.4 on a WiFi laptop
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 05:01, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Martin LORANG wrote: I boot the Gentoo 1.4 install CD with : gentoo dokeymap dopcmcia Then : modprobe orinico_cs The modules are loaded : checked with lsmod. The net-setup eth0 fails because I have no eth0 device ! Do you have a wlan0? My laptop (IBM T30) shows eth0 for the onboard ethernet and wlan0 for the wireless card... On my system, my wireless ethernet interface shows up as eth1 [It's internal, but what Toshiba did was to pretty much take a orinoco_cs type PCMCIA card and just hard wire it to an internal (no external socket) PCMCIA bridge. So, I bring up pcmcia, and ta-da, there it is. eth1 would, I assume, be because there is a eepro100 hardwired on the motherboard at eth0] AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 270 5376 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo poll #4 results
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 00:31, Nicolas STURMEL wrote: brett holcomb wrote: Stage 1 tarball installs enough to get things rolling so a system can be built. Then it builds the system optimized for your computer. It takes a while but works well. But what is the différence with the Stage 3 since all is re-built during updates ? No, you're right. Personally, I've built from both; Stage 3 means you're up and running much faster. Over time your system will rebuild (especially the next time you run emerge rsync emerge --deep --update world). Given that your system *will* be rebuilt eventually with all your spiffy optimizations, if bandwidth isn't a problem you're probably better off to just bring the huge .iso / stage tarball down and get on with it, even knowing you will duplicate a fair portion of that download over time as updates occur. On the other hand if bandwidth is a problem, and time isn't, or if you're building a small tight system (ie a server which doesn't need X or Office or other such huge beasties) then starting from stage 1 or 2 will mean you download a lot less of what you don't need - at the cost of waiting a few days for the system to come up. AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 270 5376 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] BinHex
On Sun, 2003-07-20 at 19:57, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Hello all, To read some macintosh attachment, my gnus (also ooffice btw) needs BinHex. Anybody knows in which package I can find it? Thanks in advance, For what it is worth, you should consider submitting a bug to bugs.gentoo.org indicating the missing dependency. Bon journee a tous. A bientot. AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 270 5376 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the last two days
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 15:24, Rev. Jeffrey Paul wrote: they're all running gentoo. Are you just cloning/ghosting/copying an image/whatever to install them, or is each building itself from scratch as you go? AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 270 5376 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] survey: gentoo corporate usage?
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 18:55, DE SMET Bram (BDSR) wrote: Yet another example is that we are going to set up a Oracle cluster on Linux. Also using Gentoo. Oracle under Linux tends to be horribly sensitive to variations in libraries. (Heck, it's that way under Solaris too). I'm not going to say be very careful because that doesn't mean anything... but I will say do tell us how it goes as the underlying Gentoo system and it's shared libraries upgrade over time AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia +61 2 9977 6866 North America +1 646 270 5376 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list