[gentoo-user] mingetty on CD isn't mingetty in ebuild
I'm not sure where to look this one up, or if anyone's bothered to mention it. The mingetty that is made with the ebuild is only one shot. After you logout, it won't let you log back in. I've had to download the mingetty source and the autologin behaves the same as the one on the CD, but then I've just trashed the usefulness of 'emerge mingetty'. Could someone please direct me to any Gentoo notes on why the CD's mingetty emerge mingetty? --Romaq -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo vs. the FHS
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 05:07:43PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. /usr should _not_ be pronounced as user, since it stands for UNIX System Resources (USR). Do you have a cite for that? I believe it to be a backronym. -- SCSI is usually fixed by remembering that it needs three terminations: One at each end of the chain. And the goat. -- Andrew McDonald, HantsLUG pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 03:12:50PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:58, Andy Smith wrote: Does anyone have any more ideas? Check /var/log/emerge.log and post all the packages that were upgraded since the last time you used portage without problems. We can then go on from there. [EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]$ grep ' emerge.*of 109' /var/log/emerge.log 1063758884: emerge (1 of 109) sys-devel/gnuconfig-20030708 to / 1063758912: emerge (2 of 109) sys-libs/db-1.85-r1 to / 1063758974: emerge (3 of 109) sys-libs/gdbm-1.8.0-r5 to / 1063759058: emerge (4 of 109) sys-devel/gettext-0.12.1 to / 1063759530: emerge (5 of 109) sys-apps/sed-4.0.7 to / 1063759624: emerge (6 of 109) sys-libs/ncurses-5.3-r4 to / 1063760209: emerge (7 of 109) sys-apps/texinfo-4.6 to / 1063760354: emerge (8 of 109) sys-apps/groff-1.18.1-r3 to / 1063760637: emerge (9 of 109) sys-apps/cronbase-0.2.1-r2 to / 1063760665: emerge (10 of 109) sys-apps/man-1.5m to / 1063760739: emerge (11 of 109) dev-java/java-config-0.2.8-r2 to / 1063760767: emerge (12 of 109) dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1 to / 1063760913: emerge (13 of 109) sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 to / 1063761476: emerge (14 of 109) sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4-r1 to / 1063761518: emerge (15 of 109) dev-python/python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1 to / 1063761552: emerge (16 of 109) sys-apps/bzip2-1.0.2-r2 to / 1063761602: emerge (17 of 109) sys-apps/coreutils-5.0-r4 to / 1063762060: emerge (18 of 109) sys-apps/debianutils-1.16.7-r3 to / 1063762093: emerge (19 of 109) app-shells/bash-2.05b-r7 to / 1063762346: emerge (20 of 109) sys-libs/readline-4.3-r4 to / 1063762446: emerge (21 of 109) dev-libs/expat-1.95.6-r1 to / 1063762520: emerge (22 of 109) dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r1 to / 1063763110: emerge (23 of 109) sys-apps/portage-2.0.49-r4 to / 1063763177: emerge (24 of 109) sys-devel/libperl-5.8.0 to / 1063763655: emerge (25 of 109) dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12 to / 1063765366: emerge (26 of 109) sys-devel/binutils-2.14.90.0.6-r3 to / 1063766107: emerge (27 of 109) sys-apps/gawk-3.1.3 to / 1063766224: emerge (28 of 109) sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.19-r1 to / 1063766343: emerge (29 of 109) sys-devel/m4-1.4 to / 1063766381: emerge (30 of 109) sys-devel/autoconf-2.57-r1 to / 1063766410: emerge (31 of 109) sys-devel/flex-2.5.4a-r5 to / 1063766433: emerge (32 of 109) sys-apps/miscfiles-1.3-r1 to / 1063766442: emerge (33 of 109) sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.3-r1 to / 1063766452: emerge (34 of 109) sys-libs/cracklib-2.7-r7 to / 1063766467: emerge (35 of 109) sys-devel/bison-1.875 to / 1063766565: emerge (36 of 109) sys-devel/gcc-3.3.1-r1 to / Hmm. So it's quite likely that gcc is the culprit here. Yet that newly installed gcc does seem to work; I can compile things. Shall I download the source for an earlier version of gcc and compile and install it within my home directory, then try to use it to compile python and see if it makes a difference? Alternatively it could be binutils? Really scared about leaving myself with no working gcc/binutils though. If I end up having to reinstall the OS I probably will not be putting gentoo back, as it took me 4 days to have it working exactly as I would like and I can't spare that sort of time right now. I have to have a whinge about this. Many people ask for help and then end it with saying, if you can't help, i'm gonna leave! Well, I didn't quite say that. I was just expressing my reasons for not wanting to completely reinstall, which I could see many people thinking would be the easiest option. To be perfectly honest, every time I see something like this, I get the inclination to not help the person at all. It is totally unrelated to the problem and therefore unnecessary. I could say a lot more but I'd just be repeating myself... This isn't really unrelated to my problem. If I had 4 days spare then I would probably reinstall. Also related is the fact that this is my desktop machine which I need to do my work on, and recently one of its (two) P3 700 CPUs died, so if I did start again I'd be recompiling everything with half the CPU power. I see what you're saying though. I agree that when you see people say things like if no one can help me then I'm going back to windows or something then you just think, go back to windows then! I just meant to show that I'm willing to try anything no matter how wacky in the hope of being able to recover from here without a total reinstall. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:30:14PM -0700, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or not I'm doing this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about etc-update everyone seems to be hush-hush. I don't understand what you're trying to achieve. etc-update already allows you to see the differences and manually sort them out line by line or (my preference) in vimdiff mode. Only crazy people use the option for etc-update to automatically fix the files, and they end up with a broken system. Again, My Goal, to manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. Why? Sure if you want to you can take all those files it says are changed and look at both versions with diff or vimdiff or whatever.. but etc-update calls these progams for you anyway. ** At this point, I'm just manually diffing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions on using diff and cp in a better way than I'm using will be helpful appreciated as well.) ** etc-update *is* the better way. :) At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, (2)its obvious that I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was told so: Quote: * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health * of your system. End Quote: So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc directory, too: 1) bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals 2) bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals Yes, if you have never edited a config file and now you have to merge in new changes then usually what you want to do is just take the update. And etc-update has an option for doing this. Now my other question is: Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually instead of using etc-update? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it fits.. :P Removing the ._cfg file is enough to make portage forget about it, I think. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 05:44:46PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 15:52, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 15:38, Andy Smith wrote: Hmm. So it's quite likely that gcc is the culprit here. Yet that newly installed gcc does seem to work; I can compile things. gcc-3.3.1-r2 has some bugs. Check on bugzilla. There's also been a bit of mention of gentoo-dev. It's also mentioned in the forums. Check this thread for downloading a working version: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=84803 Jason, you're a life saver, thanks! I followed the suggested workaround of moving libgcc_s.a in http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=84803postdays=0postorder=ascstart=25sid=28c4e3c9a33ac8d51fc7a94ce5e6a3c1 - this made my gcc work. I then manually unpacked python and installed it, and it worked. Then the rescue archive of portage allowed me to get a working portage. I am now in the process of merging a working version of gcc, then python, and then I guess I should do my whole system. In light of this unfortunate incident, is there any easy way to choose ebuilds from ~x86 in general, but from x86 for some specific ebuilds that should never be allowed to break? I am thinking binutils, gcc, python, portage for example. I'm happy for my web browsers, irc clients and what not to be bleeding edge but unstable, but it kind of ruins my day when I merge a broken gcc that recompiles half my system and breaks it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] portage broken
Hello, My galeon web browser mysteriously stopped working today. In an attempt to get it to work again, I did the following: emerge -euv galeon The idea was to recompile galeon and absolutely everything it depends upon. I had to stop the compilation at one point with a control-c, although this was at a point that should have been safe to do this. When I then tried to run emerge again, I got this: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 14, in ? import portage File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 10, in ? from select import * ImportError: No module named select This happens whatever arguments I give to emerge, and obviously means that the python select module is for some reason not installed. Python was not the ebuild that I interrupted, so I am confused why this should be the case. So, I am now completely unable to run emerge to do anything else. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can get a working portage setup now? I am sorry if this is explained in the forum, I am having difficulty viewing web pages at the moment due to having no working web browser (I have wget though!). Regards, Andy. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:22:11PM -0500, David H. Askew wrote: I've never done this, but take a look at : /usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/files/README.RESCUE Thanks for the suggestion. I tried this and afterwards I still get: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 6, in ? import os,sys,portage,emergehelp,xpak,string,re,commands,time,threading,shutil,traceback File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 10, in ? from select import * ImportError: No module named select on any invocation of emerge. This is the same as before. :( pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 02:54:07PM +1000, blade- wrote: Hi, I found this on the forum for you since you cant get there. Its how to manually re-install python. # cd # tar xzf /usr/portage/distfiles/Python-2.2.1.tgz # cd Python-2.2.1 # ./configure --with-fpectl --infodir=/usr/share/info/ --mandir=/usr/share/man # make # make install prefix=/usr # rm /usr/bin/python 2/dev/null # ln -s /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python This guy had a simular problem and he said this fixed it. Thanks. Now we are getting somewhere. It was the select module that portage was complaining about, and when I compile python from source and install it I see this: gcc -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I. -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/./Include -I/u sr/local/include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/Include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2 -c /home/andy/t mp/Python-2.2.2/Modules/selectmodule.c -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o gcc -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o -L/usr/local/lib -o build/lib.linux-i686-2.2/se lect.so WARNING: removing select since importing it failed Needless to say, python still does not have a select module after this python is installed. Now I need to figure out why it can't compile this and I may be part of the way towards fixing this. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 06:41:14AM +0100, Andy Smith wrote: gcc -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I. -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/./Include -I/u sr/local/include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/Include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2 -c /home/andy/t mp/Python-2.2.2/Modules/selectmodule.c -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o gcc -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o -L/usr/local/lib -o build/lib.linux-i686-2.2/se lect.so WARNING: removing select since importing it failed In fact *every single python module* has this error, which seems to install a python with no modules. So, I can hypothesis that the following happened: - The emerge -e recompiled some essential part of my system involving the development of dynamically loaded modules, and it did it wrongly (I am using ~x86 btw, so maybe I am asking for this?) - It then went on to recompile python with all its modules failing to import. - This python was installed, leaving me with no working portage. I now have to work out exactly what was installed that broke this. The thing is though, that as far as I can tell, gcc and binutils do seem to work. I really don't want to go messing with those especially without portage to configure them properly for gentoo. Does anyone have any more ideas? If I end up having to reinstall the OS I probably will not be putting gentoo back, as it took me 4 days to have it working exactly as I would like and I can't spare that sort of time right now. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nested Maildirs
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 04:52:30PM +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: maildirmake /home/sb/.maildir maildirmake /home/sb/.maildir/spam maildirmake /home/sb/.maildir/spam/probable maildirmake /home/sb/.maildir/spam/record maildirmake /home/sb/.maildir/spam/sure The mails are sorted into their correct maildir directory, but both mutt (working directly on /home/sb/.maildir) and Mozilla Thunderbird (accessing /home/sb/.maildir via courier-imap) only see the mails that are stored in the /home/sb/.maildir folder. What am I doing wrong? :) In your .muttrc: mailboxes /home/sb/.maildir /home/sb/.maildir/spam /home/sb/.maildir/spam/probable /home/sb/.maildir/spam/record /home/sb/.maildir/spam/sure Dunno about Mozilla. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bash HOME - END ?
[top-posting is evil] On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 06:39:25PM +0300, raptor wrote: I'm using gnome-terminal home = ^[OH end = ^[OF #env | grep TER COLORTERM=gnome-terminal TERM=xterm Can't check at the moment at console..will post later.. Make sure your /etc/inputrc has these codes: \eOH: beginning-of-line \eOF: end-of-line In my stock inputrc file it looks like this: # # Home and End # $if term=xterm # # Normal keypad and cursor of xterm # \e[1~:history-search-backward \e[4~:set-mark \e[H: beginning-of-line \e[F: end-of-line # Home and End of application keypad and cursor of xterm \eOH: beginning-of-line \eOF: end-of-line $else .. etc which should work for you as long as your TERM is set to xterm. -- I am the permanent milk monitor of all hobbies! -- Simon Quinlank -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 11:45:21AM +0200, Frank Tegtmeyer wrote: The discussion Postfix vs. qmail nearly always comes down to the point where someone says that either the qmail license or Bernstein sucks. But personal feelings or FUD feeded knowledge are not the base to choose an MTA. Although, it is not wrong to reject qmail on philosophical grounds. A serious Free software person might wish to do that, but I do see this done a lot and then passed off as a technical failing. -- Andy (postfix _and_ qmail) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bash HOME - END ?
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 07:54:27PM +0300, raptor wrote: hi, why when I'm editing at the bash prompt the keys HOME/END dont move the marker at begin/end position ?! And DEL writes ~ instead of deleting the char at which the marker is ?! how to correct this... Heh, I've just been through this. Does this happen on the console or only in X? If in X, what terminal emulator (xtern, rxvt, gnome-terminal, konsole, ...) do you use? What codes do these keys produce (in concole and X if different)? To see the codes, type: ctrl-vHome ctrl-vEnd -- You are entitled to think what you like, but if you post it here and people don't agree with you, you will feel the Hot Gritty Traffic Cone of Clue Transference being sledgehammered into your rectum. -- Jon Parry-McCulloch, CoFD mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I change the Home and End keys in X?
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 09:13:38AM +0100, Mark Fisher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 04 Jun 2003 12:54 am, Andy Smith wrote: Just installed gentoo over the weekend and now I notice that my Home and End keys seem to produce different escape sequences when in X compared to from the console. I found I had a simpilar thing and posted a fix on the gentoo forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=53721 I finally worked out how to change it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ cat ~/.Xdefaults rxvt*keysym.0xFF50: \e[1~ rxvt*keysym.0xFF57: \e[4~ and then making sure that the same escape codes are set in /etc/inputrc for xterm (because rxvt sets your TERM to xterm). Now my machine produces the same escape codes for Home and End whether I am in X or at console, and things like mutt are happy. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] How do I change the Home and End keys in X?
Hi guys, Just installed gentoo over the weekend and now I notice that my Home and End keys seem to produce different escape sequences when in X compared to from the console. When at the console if I type: ctrl-vHome I will see ^[[1~. End is ^[[4~. In X, however, I get ^[[7~ and ^[[8~ respectively. This appears to have been compensated for in most applications on my machine by having the correct entries in /etc/inputrc, but this cannot help with everything: - I can't quickly get to the top or bottom of the file in pagers like less which do not use the GNU readline library (and hence don't read inputrc. - When I log into remote hosts, I can't use Home and End in bash as I would expect without creating a custom .inputrc. - I use Mutt for email which has keybindings for Home and End that now do not work. I could add more key bindings for the new sequences that Home and End are making, but this seems messy. So, how can I make Home and End produce the same sequences in X as they do on the console? Here is the relevant part of my XF86Config: Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver Keyboard Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc101 Option XkbLayout gb EndSection If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Regards, Andy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt oddness
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 08:17:50PM +0100, Andy Smith wrote: Having merged rxvt in gentoo I tried this, but rxvt seems to close itself immediately when the -e option is used. rxvt by itself does provide me with a working terminal on the local machine, and rxvt -e bash does too, but pretty much anything else after the -e leads to the terminal just closing itself flashing away too fast to see any output or errors (if there were any). More investigation with strace revealed that rxvt was trying to open the utmp file. By running with rxvt -ut it now works for me. I guess I never had the utmp option enabled before. Whether this is the best solution I do not know. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
