[gentoo-user] How to handle 50 files in ... need updating.?

2003-11-07 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
Hi all,

after a world update now I got more than 50 config files needing
updating and I am wondering if there might be a BETTER way of doing
this - better than the usual manually diffing of each single file
to see if I can take the old one or the new one or must merge with
the new one...

TIA,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is /var full?

2003-11-07 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On Freitag, 7. November 2003 11:51, Aaron Walker wrote:
 I just installed gentoo for the first time earlier this week.  Got
 everything up and running perfectly.  I am very impressed.  Anyways...
 I ran 'emerge openoffice' last night before I left for work, and when
 I came home there was an error. I went to emerge another package
 (evolution) and immediatly got another error.  Upon rebooting I
 noticed somewhere it said device is full, so I ran df and noticed that
 the 2GB /var partition was full and I am assuming that is the reason I
 cannot run emerge successfully.  Why is /var full already?

Since it holde the sources and is used to compile the packages.

 I thought 2GB would be overkill. Was I wrong?

yep.

 What can I do to clean it out? 

Leave it.

 Should I make a larger partition for /var?

yep.

I did this:

1. make a 5 GB partition.

2. mount my new 5GB partitions as something (add it to /etc/fstab)

3. move the complete /var/tmp directory to something,
   so that it would become /something/tmp

4. make a symlink: ln -s /something/tmp /var/tmp

5. restart the emerge again: works nicely then.  :-)
   After it finished running most of the rubbish in /something/tmp
   got erased automatically.

HTH,
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[gentoo-user] ACER Laptop: DVD/CD Combo drive not detected entirely.

2003-11-07 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
Hi,

my old Acer TravelMate 260 makes a problem with Gentoo: the DVD/CD combo
drive (DVD/CD reader + CD burner) is not detected completely.

Starting k3b-setup I get told that there is no writer, but only a reader.

Following the advise given there, I added modprobe ide-scsi to some
file in /etc/modules.d/ and started modules-update, went fine.

Now I would like to tell the kernel about my SCSI whishes: normally
I would just add a
append = hdc=ide-scsi
to my /etc/lilo.conf - but Gentoo is using Grub, so where/how could I
add these parameters now?

TIA,
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Re: [gentoo-user] ACER Laptop: DVD/CD Combo drive not detected entirely.

2003-11-07 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On Freitag, 7. November 2003 12:43, Fabien Fivaz wrote:
 Now I would like to tell the kernel about my SCSI whishes: normally
 I would just add a
 append = hdc=ide-scsi
 to my /etc/lilo.conf - but Gentoo is using Grub, so where/how could I
 add these parameters now?

 Just add hdc=ide-scsi after the kernel hd(0,0)/.../kernel...
 root=/hd... hdc=ide-scsi
 in the /boot/grub/grub.conf file.

I am sorry, there is no /boot/grub/grub.conf file - there isn't even
a /boot/grub directory.  :-O

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Re: [gentoo-user] ACER Laptop: DVD/CD Combo drive not detected entirely.

2003-11-07 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
[Sorry, I wrote nonsense]

On Freitag, 7. November 2003 14:42, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:

 The setup dialog of k3b _now_ lists the DVD combo drive as follows:

 /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd (0,0,0)

Note: the k3b lists the above as Reader device!

 But when I want to add this as my preferred Reader too it would tell
 me There is no additional drive at /dev/scsi/host0/bu

s/Reader/Writer  -  it's the writer setting that is empty in k3b!

 Still, this is exactly what I need, since the drive is both a reader
 and a writer (at least for CDs).

 Karl-Heinz

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Re: [gentoo-user] ACER Laptop: DVD/CD Combo drive not detected entirely.

2003-11-07 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On Freitag, 7. November 2003 13:53, Fabien Fivaz wrote:
(...)
  The setup dialog of k3b _now_ lists the DVD combo drive as follows:
 
 /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd (0,0,0)

 You won't have any /dev/hdc anymore (this is because gentoo is using
 devfs, I think). Change /etc/fstab to point your cdrom mountpoint to
 /dev/scsi...

  But when I want to add this as my preferred Reader too it would tell
  me There is no additional drive at /dev/scsi/host0/bu

 I don't know a lot about k3b (personaly using xcdroast). To be sure
 your scsi writer is configured try the following command

 # cat /proc/scsi/scsi

 You will see your CD drive, I hope !

Yes, this works, thanks, but probably my problem is that it is telling
me Type: CD-ROM which is only half the truth: it is also a CD Writer
and I used it as such before when there was still some OEM Windows on
that machine.

So the question is: How to tell Gentoo that this is also a Writer?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ACER Laptop: DVD/CD Combo drive not detected entirely.

2003-11-07 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On Freitag, 7. November 2003 14:54, Fabien Fivaz wrote:
   So the question is: How to tell Gentoo that this is also a Writer?

 Could you try the following command as root :

 # cdrecord --scanbus

 And tell me what it tells ?

This tells me:


Cdrecord 2.01a14 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg 
Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'MATSHITA' 'DVD-ROM SR-8176 ' 'ME37' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *



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Re: [gentoo-user] ACER Laptop: DVD/CD Combo drive not detected entirely.

2003-11-07 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On Freitag, 7. November 2003 15:28, Fabien Fivaz wrote:
 Oups, crazy. It seems that your drive is * NOT * a Matshita
 DVD-ROM SR-8176. But is recognized as one... Could you do a

 # dmesg

 And look at beginning of what it returns, what is said about your
 driver (you will also see a line for your hard disk) ?

dmesg tells me:

Uniform Multi-Platform-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
...
hdc: MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8176, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
...

 Is it * really * a Matshita... ? You maybe know the model ?

Oops, I would have to find this in one of the boxes: we recently
moved into the new house, so there are hundreds of boxes containing
all the stuff you seldomly use.  ;-)

 I don't know if it is possible to tell the kernel that your CD is
 actualy a Writer...

OK anyway thanks a lot for helping so far, perhaps the rest of the
missing pieces wild come at its place as well.

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[gentoo-user] Volume full during world update - how to clean up now?

2003-11-06 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
Hi,

during an   emerge -u worldthe root partition got filled nearly 
entirely so emerge stopped during updating (exactly: during compilation) 
of OpenOffice.

I moved a few directories to other partitions and restarted the emerge
command, it tells me:  emerge (1 of 1) app-office/openoffice-1.1.0 to /

This is fine, but there is something very strange:

In /var/tmp/portage/ there are a lot of directories full of files (all
together more than 2GB) - I asume this is because the previous emerge
run was stopped due to lack of disk space, sp probably it did not clean
up like usually...  it looks like these files are the sources where my
packages get build from.

Am I allowed to erase the contente of /var/tmp/portage after the emerge
has finished running - or would that be less wise?  :-)

TIA,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Volume full during world update - how to clean up now?

2003-11-06 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On Donnerstag, 6. November 2003 15:58, Doug Weimer wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 06:47, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
(...)
  Am I allowed to erase the contente of /var/tmp/portage after the
  emerge has finished running - or would that be less wise?  :-)

 Removing everything is fine. Emerge will remove the tmp directory and
 remake it each time you emerge a given package. So removing them
 yourself wont make any difference.

OK, will do so, thanks for the quick reply!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Volume full during world update - how to clean up now?

2003-11-06 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On Donnerstag, 6. November 2003 17:04, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:07:46 +0200 Karl-Heinz Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  On Donnerstag, 6. November 2003 15:58, Doug Weimer wrote:
   On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 06:47, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
 
  (...)
 
Am I allowed to erase the contente of /var/tmp/portage after the
emerge has finished running - or would that be less wise?  :-)
  
   Removing everything is fine. Emerge will remove the tmp directory
   and remake it each time you emerge a given package. So removing
   them yourself wont make any difference.
 
  OK, will do so, thanks for the quick reply!

 FYI, emerge openoffice... requires 4-5G temp space!  Since I don't
 have this much space in my normal file systems, I have to mount a
 temporary partition for work use.

Thx for telling me, I did so before restarting my emerge.  :-))

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[gentoo-user] emerge -u system not possible at the moment?

2003-11-05 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
Hi,

having not made an update for ~4 weeks I wanted to run it now, so I did
this:

1.   emerge sync

- this went fine, but then told me I should update portage now, ok so

2.   emerge --update portage

- went fine too, no problems no complaints, so next was

3.   emerge --update world

- strange enough this did not bring me any new updates, so I made a

4.   emerge --update system

- HERE comes trouble: it tries and tries but does not suceed:
the servers would either tell it
 No such file `vim-6.2.098-patches.tar.bz2.
or they would say
 No such directory `mirrors/gentoo/distfiles.
and it tries a LOT of servers and, no, I did not mainpulate the servers 
list after my last (successful) update.

So what might go wrong here, how can I proceed?

TIA,
Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u system not possible at the moment?

2003-11-05 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
Hi Frank,

that's absolutely great, update is running nicely now!

Thanks for the quick and good advise.  :-)

Karl-Heinz

On Mittwoch, 5. November 2003 13:38, Frank Schäfer wrote:
 Hi,

 I had the same problem today. Maybe the gentooers working on a new
 upgrade or so. This happens from time to time.

 I circumvented this by:

 # emerge -i app-editors/vim-6.2-r3
 # emerge -u world
(...)


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[gentoo-user] Network lost after update - solution.

2003-09-18 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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Hi,

strange happening: after my last Gentoo update the network setting
was lost, and when I tried to start it manually, this was written:


bash-2.05b# /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
 * Bringing eth0 up...
SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
etho: unknown interface: No such device
SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
etho: unknown interface: No such device
SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
 * Failed to bring eth0 up


Problem was that there was no eth0 entry in /etc/modules.conf

Solution was to

1. Create this file:

/etc/modules.d/modules.net

2. Make it have this content:

alias eth0 8139too

3. Call this helper script to get the new alias into modules.conf:

modules-update

OK, then /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start worked fine, but the question
remains: How could that happen?

What might I have done wrong during the update process that could have 
lead to me loosing the eth0 alias in the /etc/modules.conf file?

TIA,
Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] Console font sizing...

2003-09-18 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Donnerstag, 18. September 2003 21:08, Azhdeen wrote:
 On Thursday 18 September 2003 13:37, Jason Stubbs wrote:
  To put it simply, the console is the text mode before xwindows.

 a bit off topic, but it hurts my eyes to read xwindows...

 it's XWindow, X11 or X, not the poor excuse for an OS...

 drop that S !!

While you are absolutely right about the 'S' you made a mistake
concerning the other names, just type

   man X

and you will see:


   The X Consortium requests that the following  names  be  used
   when 
   referring to this software:

X
 X Window System
  X Version 11
   X Window System, Version 11
   X11


This means X may *not* be called XWindow either.

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[gentoo-user] Current XSESSION entry for KDE?

2003-09-17 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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Hi,

currently updating my complete Gentoo installation on the LapTop I wonder
if it still correct to have XSESSION=kde-3.1 in my /etc/rc.conf.

Must I change this into kde-3.2 now or is 3.2 not there already?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Current XSESSION entry for KDE?

2003-09-17 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Mittwoch, 17. September 2003 15:23, Joshua Banks wrote:
 To find out what KDE release your using simply right click on the
 K-Startapplication Iconthen Panel MenuHelpAbout KDE

Yes, I know this, but I wanted to know which version is there _before_
I start it: my XSESSION entry decides which one is started.

Karl-Heinz

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  currently updating my complete Gentoo installation on the LapTop I
  wonder if it still correct to have XSESSION=kde-3.1 in my
  /etc/rc.conf.
 
  Must I change this into kde-3.2 now or is 3.2 not there already?
 
  Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure

2003-08-15 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 12:45, roger21 wrote:
 Janne Johansson wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 01:49, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
 Having heard and read about this issue too I just want to express
  that for me personally all this does not count: I don't care about
  the business model, but only about the quality of Gentoo.
 
 As long as it is good like today (or better :-)) I will use it - no
 matter if it costs money or not.
 
  Sorry for this 'me too' posting, but I totally agree with Karl.

 damn you everybody 
  ^^^

So that is the way how you address people who don't share your opinion?

 how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
 comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
 earn

NOTE THIS: I am free to think and care about what I like to.

and I don't give a dime for people like you - behaving here like a pig!

Thread me with respect of f**k off!

Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure

2003-08-15 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 14:06, Eric Livingston wrote:
   how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
   comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
   earn !! this is unresponsable
 
  As I see it, money is not the issue. As long as the software is free
  and the quality of the software high, I'm willing to donate money to
  show my support.

 Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front page
 that they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism, had in fact
 helped to fund the 9/11 attacks, and were now in the process of
 pulling money together to help fund a nuclear attack on NYC, you'd
 just merrily keep sending them donations because the quality of the
 software is high? Strange...

 Or
[more samples...]

IM(humble)O you are both right and wrong:

* right, because it might lead to unwanted use of my money if I am
  not asking what it is spent for before I make a donnation

* wrong, because if you START making such questions, you will end
  in a world where Free Software delevopers have to demonstrate
  politically rightness before being supported by their users...

I don't like the idea of my money wandering to some obscure place
- - but at the same time I don't like the idea of a world where
libertarians support 'their' libertarian Free Software Developers
and republicans support 'their' republican Free Software Developers
only.

Where would that end?

That russian co-workers and american ones would stop cooperating?

That somebody from Cuba would have a problem with his users from
the USA.

NO - THANK YOU

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Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure

2003-08-15 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 14:07, roger21 wrote:
 Piotr 'p1t3r05' Piasny wrote:
  On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:45:34 +0200
 
  roger21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
 comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
 earn !! this is unresponsable
 
  ``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as in ``free beer.''
  http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

 free as in freedom [RMS] ... thank you for considering me as a stupid
 guy


I don't know if you are stupid, but I know that you addresses us by
damn you everybody  with 4 exclamation marks.

So think about the way of discussing here again, please.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure

2003-08-15 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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subthread?   where?

/me hides

On Freitag, 15. August 2003 17:46, Shawn wrote:
 Intentional invocation of Godwin's law nullifies it's use. It only
 starts sub-threads. Case in point.

 On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 09:35, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
  From: Karl-Heinz Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
free as in freedom [RMS] ... thank you for considering me as a
stupid guy
  
   I don't know if you are stupid, but I know that you addresses us
   by damn you everybody  with 4 exclamation marks.
  
   So think about the way of discussing here again, please.
 
  OK, what would Hitler have to say about this ... oops, now I have
  done it. Thread over.  Knock it off guys.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure

2003-08-15 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 18:12, Spider wrote:
 Karl-Heinz Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  subthread?   where?
 There is no subthread!

hehe
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Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure

2003-08-15 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 18:52, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
 From: Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure

  Intentional invocation of Godwin's law nullifies it's use. It only
  starts sub-threads. Case in point.

 I knew somebody would point that out.  I was hoping that the
 inflammatory comments would stop and people would again become civil. 
 I see that it is not the case however.

But sure, we are absolutely civil.  ;-)

Actually civilization is a nice thing: we can say things to each other
without being afraid of being killed - if we were not civilized world
would be way more dangerous.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wanted: GUI programmer (GLIS)

2003-08-14 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Mittwoch, 6. August 2003 01:00, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:

 The current GUI is using dialog, but it is very limited.  I really
 want to see a CUSTOM GUI.
(...)
 We want to make something that is HOT, not something that is
 boring.  Those are just my thoughts, what are yours?

Sure, this sound nice, so the goal is to make something really fine - not
to get a usable solution quickly?

In this case why do you think about a bash script backend instead of a
nice little C (or C++) program?  Since we are talking about a Gentoo
installer - not a platform independent thingie - we can safely assume
that the needed libraries for a real program are there, so what would
be the advantage of a bash script?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wanted: GUI programmer (GLIS)

2003-08-14 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Dienstag, 5. August 2003 20:08, Cal Evans wrote:
[quoting re-ordered]
 Nathaniel McCallum said:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(...)
  The best solution seems to me to be what someone already
  suggested:
  write multiple frontends (gtk, qt, curses, etc) for the same
  app..
  then the user can choose whatever they please...
 
  I've also been considering the following approach...
 
  Make glisrc which reads the config file and installs gentoo.
  No UI.
  Then, let other people make the GUIs to generate the config file
  and run glisrc.  Is this a good idea?  What are some things I
  need to consider?

 ...and a mighty w00t! goes up from the crowd.  This would be wonderful
 because it would allow me to have a firewall install script, a
 webserver, script, etc. When I go to install a machine, I just pull
 the correct script and come back the next morning.

fully ACK

That would be great!

So we would have two options:

a) Start the install script in _batch_ mode: passing to it the name
   of an 'answer file' containing the answers to the questions that
   that would be replied to by the user when /not/ in batch but
   in dialog mode.

or

b) Start the install script in _dialog_ mode: using either the
   (n)curses or the gtk or the Qt interface.


IMhO this would be absolutely great!  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wanted: GUI programmer (GLIS)

2003-08-14 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Dienstag, 5. August 2003 18:13, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
 Want to work on a project that hundreds (thousands hopefully) will
 use? GLIS (Gentoo Linux Install Script) is looking for a GUI
 programmer to write a custom frontend for Gentoo's installer.  If you
 fit the bill and are interested, please email me :)  Thanks!

I am interested - in case you agree that we do it using Qt.

BTW, found your webpage 
http://forums.gentoo.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofileu=20112
and I wonder if there might be an error on it: What is Thilosophy?

:-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice - slower than death

2003-08-14 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Donnerstag, 14. August 2003 21:15, rh wrote:
 Hi.

 Just finished emerge'ing openoffice (24 hours later!!) and it is
 slower than death. It can take sometimes 5-10 seconds just to open the
 menus.

That's strange!

Did you compile with debug?

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Re: [gentoo-user] bash prompt?

2003-08-09 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Freitag, 8. August 2003 18:50, Jeremy Workman wrote:
 Bash isn't reading any configs

IMO this is not true.

from man bash:

|  When an interactive shell that is not a login shell is
|  started, bash reads and executes com­mands from  ~/.bashrc,
|  if that file  exists.  This may be inhibited by using the
|  --norc option.  The --rcfile file option will force
|  bash to read and  execute commands from file instead
|  of ~/.bashrc.

HTH,
Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wanted: GUI programmer (GLIS)

2003-08-07 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Dienstag, 5. August 2003 18:56, Tom Wesley wrote:
 On Tuesday 05 August 2003 17:59, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
  On Dienstag, 5. August 2003 18:13, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
   Want to work on a project that hundreds (thousands hopefully) will
   use? GLIS (Gentoo Linux Install Script) is looking for a GUI
   programmer to write a custom frontend for Gentoo's installer.  If
   you fit the bill and are interested, please email me :)  Thanks!
(...)
  I am interested - in case you agree that we do it using Qt.
(...)
 Wouldn't something console based be better?  I have a couple of
 servers that really won't take X at all.

Sure, that would be better.
Do you have (n)curses knowledge?
Would you like to do it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wanted: GUI programmer (GLIS)

2003-08-05 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Dienstag, 5. August 2003 18:57, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
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  On Dienstag, 5. August 2003 18:13, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
  Want to work on a project that hundreds (thousands hopefully) will
  use? GLIS (Gentoo Linux Install Script) is looking for a GUI
  programmer to write a custom frontend for Gentoo's installer.  If
  you fit the bill and are interested, please email me :)  Thanks!
 
  I am interested - in case you agree that we do it using Qt.

 Qt?  Shouldn't it be in console languages (ncurses or dialog) given
 that this will be used to install gentoo.

Sure, you're right, but Nathaniel  asked explicitely for a GUI solution
- - with 'G' like in 'graphical.  ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wanted: GUI programmer (GLIS)

2003-08-05 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Dienstag, 5. August 2003 21:06, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Despite my previous post I have decided to take a look at learning a
 little of
 ncurses.  My only concern with jumping in a creating a version of the
 script
 is that we will end up duplicating work.  What we could do with is a
  C library of functions for doing the 'bits' of the install.  Then
  interfaces in
 various languages could be written to utilise the library.

 My thought is to have glisrc (the backend) be written in shell script.

In this case perhaps using the good old dialog tool might be an 
alternative to writing a complete curses UI?

For KDE there exists a complementary tool kdialog, perhaps this could
be converted into a Qt-only version - so you could use it in the same
way as the dialog tool.  Then only a gtk-based version would be needed
to make everybody happy.  (but I wouldn't be surprised if being told that 
a gdialog already exists)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Non-root reboot

2003-08-02 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Samstag, 2. August 2003 15:49, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
 * Lares Weaselle (2003-08-02 12:57 +0200)

  On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 10:51:08 +0200, Thorsten Kampe wrote:

  Laptop,  Fluxbox, no xdm or the like...  I like my interfaces
  light...

 ...and functionality reduced obviously...

Obviously.

But (imho) it is his very right to prefer something different than you 
and I do.

The amount of functionality (and luxuriosity) desired by user differs
widely and it is good that modern distributions offers such an extreme
wide spectrum of choices - so everybody seriously interested in Linux
can set up 'her' or 'his' very personal combination of tools and become
happy. :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] vi arrow keys

2003-07-31 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2003 11:46, Anders Eriksson wrote:
 Hi,

 Anyone knows how to get the arrow keys to work in vi?

Are u using a true vi?   Or vim/elvis/nvi/...?

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Re: [gentoo-user] vi arrow keys

2003-07-31 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2003 13:53, Anders Eriksson wrote:
 It turned out I was indeed using vi (and
 not vim, as I was in the RH box).

strange.  Where did you get the vi from?

I thought the vi is a commercial product and not freely available...

(but I might be wrong, of course)

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[gentoo-user] updating KDE - what will happen?

2003-07-31 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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Hi,

probably in the near future there will be KDE 3.1.3 available for normal 
Gentoo users, right?

I'm just curious: what will happen when I then call an   emerge kde?

Will all old settings be preserved, the old KDE sources+binaries be
overwritten by the new KDE and the system be as stable as before?

Or would it be better to use konstruct and get my new KDE source tree
in a separate directory in ~?

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Re: [gentoo-user] konquerror strange behaviour

2003-07-30 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2003 04:26, Alberto Bert wrote:
 Hi all,

 I just re-configured the gentoo-network for a dinamic IP network.
 It was some time that I didn't emerge anything, so I checked what's
 new and I installed libsdtc++ gcc and glibc

 while installing glibc konquerror started to don't work, it cannot
 reach any host:

 An error occured while loading http://www.gentoo.org:

 Unknown host www.gentoo.org

 for any site.

Might there be wrong IP addresses s for the nameserver(s) in 
/etc/resolv.conf ?

 Note that mozilla is ok.

That's strange.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PHP or Perl

2003-07-24 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Thursday 24 July 2003 20:24, Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
 Hi,

 I don't want to start a flame, but i'm wondering whats the best
 language to use with apache. I don't know both and going to learn one.
 I know that perl can be used standalone of php i don't know.

 All your thoughts are welcom.

Did you consider using www.google.com or groups.google.com to see what
thoughts/opinions/experiences concerning this issue other people have 
shared already?

Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decent browser?

2003-07-22 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Monday 21 July 2003 22:37, you wrote:
 Hi,

  Wow!  Konqueror could be started when running Gnome?  I didn't know
  that!
 
  Would you ming writing a little howto on this and send it to the
  list?

 why not type konqueror in a xterm or gnome-console?

Had I only known that things are so easy!
Your and Mikhail's mails opened my eyes.  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-22 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Monday 21 July 2003 22:35, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Monday 21 July 2003 21:07, Kurt Bechstein wrote:
  I really like konqueror as well but all the little javascript
  problems bother me.  Mainly I guess javascript cascading type menus
  that you see on websites.  Examples would be bestbuy.com and
  bmwusa.com just to name a few that don't work for me.  I believe
  there are bug reports for these on the KDE page but I will double
  check.

 I know some pages where Konqueror locks up X completly, in the moment,
 the page got loaded, or some seconds later. Very annoying.
 Because of this, I am using opera more and more.

Are you talking about cvs HEAD KOnqueror here - or about an older 
version?

If HEAD please provide us with a URL of the pages causing such trouble: 
of course things should be tested and fixed ASAP.

You may either enter a respective bug report at http://bugs.kde.org/ or
- - if that's not possible - you might send such URL to me (at best
 together with a short explanation on what happens and if that behavior
 is reproducable) and I will file the report for you...

TIA,
Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decent browser?

2003-07-22 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Tuesday 22 July 2003 09:03, Norberto BENSA wrote:
 Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
  Wow!  Konqueror could be started when running Gnome?  I didn't know
  that!
 
  Would you ming writing a little howto on this and send it to the
  list?

 Sarcasm?
 That comment from someone with @kde.org in his e-mail address...
 hmmm...

No, sorry, not sarcasm but simple truth: I was having way t few time
left during the last months that I could not try other systems and had
to ignore Gnome completely.
This is quite frustrating (since I think not only the KDE team but also 
the Gnome people do a very good job, and I would have _liked_ to give it
a try) but there is too much work plus family needing a considerable 
amount of time plus we're building a house plus ... - so no time left 
for installing other interesting projects.

Me having asked for a Howto was not primarily targeting at me getting 
help but at having a solution for other readers that might be interested 
in running Konqueror on Gnome - nice to see that no Howto is necessarry 
since just invoking Konqueror from a Gnome text konsole is enough!

Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying existing installation to new harddrive

2003-07-21 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Monday 21 July 2003 08:16, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
   I set up a GENTOO box for a friend of mine (it's his first Linux
   experience and he is really happy with it) recently.

   The box in question has a rather old, small and slow harddrive that
 he wants to exchange in the near future.

   Is it possible, and if so, how, to copy the existing GENTOO
 installation to the new harddrive?

Sure it is, but where to start explaining the steps to you now?

Which information do you have already?  Did you read the Hard Disk 
Upgrade Mini How-To yet?

Hard Disk Upgrade Mini How-To
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html

Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Monday 21 July 2003 19:32, Shane Hickey wrote:

 So, I was wondering if people could recommend some good browsers. I'm
 running fluxbox, so I don't need anything fancy.

just an idea: Your longing a realy good browser might be a good reason to
  consider giving KDE a try.

This would gain you Konqueror - on of the best browsers in the game!

Even if you don't look for anything 'fancy' you might still be interested 
using Konqueror: just because of its cappability to correctly display
more HTML pages than most other browsers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Monday 21 July 2003 20:24, Alan wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 08:03:30PM +0200, Martin Gramatke wrote:
  Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
   This would gain you Konqueror - on of the best browsers in the
   game!
 
  Konquerer is simply marvellous. I recommend that one too.

 The only issue with Konq is that if you are a gnome user you have to
 have all the KDE processes that it starts up (dcop, etc).

Wow!  Konqueror could be started when running Gnome?  I didn't know that!

Would you ming writing a little howto on this and send it to the list?

Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Monday 21 July 2003 22:19, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:

 Would you ming writing a little howto on this and send it to the list?

sorry:   s/ming/mind

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Re: [gentoo-user] XSESSION=kde-x.y.z must be manually updated?

2003-07-20 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Sunday 20 July 2003 17:04, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 On Friday 18 July 2003 06:09 am, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:

  in /etc/rc.conf there is the new variable XSESSION.
(...)
  I just wondered why there is no way to specify XSESSION=KDE -
  similar to specifying XSESSION=Gnome, where I don't seem to need a
  versio number.
(...)
 My version # is set to 3.1. I didn't need to change that when updating
 the minor version # 3.1.(2)

Thx for telling me - that's very good!

The comment obove that enrty in the rc.conf file made me think that the
entry must follow the x.y.z schema - nice to see that this is not so. :-)

Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] out of memory when compiling QT...

2003-07-20 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Monday 21 July 2003 00:53, Ian Delahorne wrote:
 My machine runs out of memory when compiling qt-3.1.2, usually around
 tools/designer/{designer,uic} (seen in desinger/mainwindow.cpp,
 designer/mainwindowactions.cpp and uic/main.cpp).

 128MB memory + 200MB swap should do the trick, or am I hopelessly
 outdated in the memory race?

Could you use more swap?  Perhaps 512MB or more?

The amount of 328MB RAM+swap is not what I would call too much for
compiling Qt and its tools.

another proposal: Could you try to compile it with as few programs
  running as possible?  (e.g. with no X running)

Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] new install: twm OK, but KDE not working

2003-07-18 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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Hi,

problem is solved - thx for helpink!   :-)

Karl-Heinz

On Friday 18 July 2003 01:08, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
 running startx works: twm shows up
 but running kdm only shows a gray window: normally this is the case if
 the laptop is run in an incopatible video mode.

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Re: [gentoo-user] stupid question !!

2003-07-18 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Friday 18 July 2003 11:34, raptor wrote:
 hi,

 how to rebuild gentoo...

 emerge  - -p world

 xxx -  which is the correct option

You might try

  emerge rsync
  emerge -u world

You also could call

   emerge --clean rsync

instead of 

   emerge rsync

but this would remove all your personal modifications/settings that might
be stored in /usr/portage.

Also you might want to get more information before calling emerge: just
call
   emerge --help config

or even: man emerge   ;-)

Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] stupid question !!

2003-07-18 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Friday 18 July 2003 11:49, Theofilos Intzoglou wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:34:16 +0300

 raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hi,
 
  how to rebuild gentoo...
 
  emerge  - -p world
 
  xxx -  which is the correct option
 
 
  thanx alot..
 
 
 
 
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 The option you need is -e

Does than mean that emerge -e -p world would rebuild Gentoo?

Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] stupid question !!

2003-07-18 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Friday 18 July 2003 12:01, blade- wrote:
 Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
 On Friday 18 July 2003 11:49, Theofilos Intzoglou wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:34:16 +0300
 raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,
 
 how to rebuild gentoo...
 
 emerge  - -p world
 
 xxx -  which is the correct option

 The option you need is -e
 
 Does than mean that emerge -e -p world would rebuild Gentoo?

 -p is for pretend, shows list of packages to install, drop it to do it

So this means emerge -e world will rebuild Gentoo?

Karl-Heinz
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[gentoo-user] XSESSION=kde-x.y.z must be manually updated?

2003-07-18 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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Hi,

in /etc/rc.conf there is the new variable XSESSION.

If I set this to some KDE version, will it be updated if I run emerge -u
on the KDE?

Or do I have to update it if the minor version of KDE changes?

I just wondered why there is no way to specify XSESSION=KDE - similar
to specifying XSESSION=Gnome, where I don't seem to need a versio 
number.

Karl-Heinz
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[gentoo-user] new install: twm OK, but KDE not working

2003-07-17 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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Hi,

this is my 1st mail to this list - if I ask an FAQ please tell me where
I can read the answer ad forgive me!  ;-)

After installing Gentoo from scratch on a new HD in my Acer Travelmate
260 laptop I have the following problem:

running startx works: twm shows up
but running kdm only shows a gray window: normally this is the case if 
the laptop is run in an incopatible video mode.

How can this be?

If normal startx is OK, obviously my key presses in xf86config were Ok as 
well - so why doesn't KDE start nicely?

(I made a completely fresh emerge including an emerge kde)

TIA,

Karl-Heinz
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