Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Eric Paynter wrote: mv ~/.bash_profile ~/.bash_profile.bkp ln -s ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_profile Then you get the same thing, no matter how you started the shell. Also, you can edit either file and the other gets the edits, since they are really both the same file, just with two names. Interesting. Thank you. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Ric Messier wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Eric Paynter wrote: The problem with symlinking one to the other as you suggest is if you ever use something like scp, you potentially break it, as the comment in .bashrc says. All my profile-ish things that generate output get put, correctly, into .bash_profile. Of course, if you never generate output with your login scripts then you're ok. Just something to keep in mind, though. Good to know... I'll be careful :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Le Mercredi, 10 Décembre 2003 11.21, Oliver Lange a écrit : Ric Messier wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Eric Paynter wrote: The problem with symlinking one to the other as you suggest is if you ever use something like scp, you potentially break it, as the comment in .bashrc says. All my profile-ish things that generate output get put, correctly, into .bash_profile. Of course, if you never generate output with your login scripts then you're ok. Just something to keep in mind, though. Good to know... I'll be careful :) pick my solution: Create a new rc file with all your common configuration (mine is .scriptrc) and have it sourced by both .bashrc and .bash_profile that way, you can put bashrc-only and bash_profile-only configs in their respective file. -- mathieu perrenoud -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Eric Paynter wrote: Gentoo by default sources .bashrc from .bash_profile which is, of course, why I asked what shell he is using. If .bashrc isn't getting run, then perhaps he has a different shell without realizing it. Or perhaps he doesn't have a .bash_profile... I have a .bash_profile, but i'm not sure if and which shell i'm using. I can only say this: i've installed gentoo. How can i fugure out which shell is set for my user and for the root account ? The strange thing is that .bash_logout is always executed, but not the .bashrc file. The .bashrc and .bash_profile permission bits don't include the executable bit, and the .bash_profile contains this: -- # /etc/skel/.bash_profile: # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/skel/.bash_profile,v 1.10 2002/11/18 19:39:22 azarah Exp $ #This file is sourced by bash when you log in interactively. [ -f ~/.bashrc ] . ~/.bashrc -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Eric Paynter wrote: Or perhaps he doesn't have a .bash_profile... Addendum: I just found out that everything works fine as long i'm logging in under my user account - the problem only occurs when i login as root, even local login won't execute the .bashrc in /root, no matter if i login locally or over ssh. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 14:12, Oliver Lange wrote: Eric Paynter wrote: Gentoo by default sources .bashrc from .bash_profile which is, of course, why I asked what shell he is using. If .bashrc isn't getting run, then perhaps he has a different shell without realizing it. Or perhaps he doesn't have a .bash_profile... I have a .bash_profile, but i'm not sure if and which shell i'm using. I can only say this: i've installed gentoo. How can i fugure out which shell is set for my user and for the root account ? Either look in /etc/passwd or run 'echo $SHELL'. If you are using bash then the system wide bash config file /etc/profile will be used. It should then call your own .bash_profile. This in turn can execute a .bashrc file. As you rightly pointed out neither .bashrc nor .bash_profile are executable. For the line in your .bash_profile to include your config in .bashrc make it executable (chmod u+x .bashrc). I am not sure but I think /etc/profile 'source's your .bash_profile so it does not need to be executable. But I would check /etc/profile to make sure. Hope that helps. Dg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
I have a .bash_profile, but i'm not sure if and which shell i'm using.
I can only say this: i've installed gentoo. How can i fugure out which
shell is set for my user and for the root account ?
finger username
grep username /etc/passwd | awk -F: '{print $7}'
use chsh to change your shell.
The strange thing is that .bash_logout is always executed, but not
the .bashrc file. The .bashrc and .bash_profile permission bits
don't include the executable bit, and the .bash_profile contains this:
add echoes in your .bash* files, like:
echo executing bashrc
echo executing bash_profile
so you can see when each file is sourced.
And neither bashrc nor bash_profile needs the x bit, since they're sourced and
not executed.
# /etc/skel/.bash_profile:
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/skel/.bash_profile,v
1.10 2002/11/18 19:39:22 azarah Exp $
#This file is sourced by bash when you log in interactively.
[ -f ~/.bashrc ] . ~/.bashrc
--
mathieu perrenoud
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Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Oliver Lange wrote: I have a .bash_profile, but i'm not sure if and which shell i'm using. I can only say this: i've installed gentoo. How can i fugure out which shell is set for my user and for the root account ? Yep. Which again leads me to believe that somehow you aren't using bash as your shell. While you are logged in, you can type echo $SHELL or echo $shell (csh uses lower case while bourne-related shells use upper). You can also cat or grep /etc/passwd to get your shell setting or, if you have installed finger, you can finger your user. To set bash as your shell, use the following: usermod -s /bin/bash username Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, David Gethings wrote: As you rightly pointed out neither .bashrc nor .bash_profile are executable. For the line in your .bash_profile to include your config in .bashrc make it executable (chmod u+x .bashrc). No, you don't need to do that. The . tells it to be parsed. You only need it to be executable if you want to execute it directly -- ie, ~/.bashrc or just .bashrc if you are already in your home directory. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
add echoes in your .bash* files, like: echo executing bashrc ^^ I wouldn't recommend this as some things (like ssh) won't like the output when sourcing .bashrc AFAIK Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 10 December 2003 01:02, Oliver Lange wrote: Ric Messier wrote: What do you have set for your shell? Sorry, i don't understand the question, but there are so many (different!!) replies to my initial question that i guess the answer is already there... i just got to try them all :) Amazing how many different solutions i've already seen. If you have to run 'bash' when you login I'd say your shell isn't bash. My shell is bash: sauron root # grep mike /etc/passwd mike:x:1000:100:Mike Williams:/home/mike:/bin/bash I also have this: #This file is sourced by bash when you log in interactively. [ -f ~/.bashrc ] . ~/.bashrc in my .bash_profile - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/1z4dInuLMrk7bIwRAqdMAJ4iEjulumIGpZmvkopWvo7LG1vqhACfWDn/ fBwUTp4D8/1vVG5sJ94LElE= =tJuy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Le Mercredi, 10 Décembre 2003 16.31, Patrick Börjesson a écrit : add echoes in your .bash* files, like: echo executing bashrc ^^ I wouldn't recommend this as some things (like ssh) won't like the output when sourcing .bashrc AFAIK yes right, but that's only for testing purposes. ssh won't complain, but sftp may. -- mathieu perrenoud -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:34:36PM +0100, Oliver Lange wrote: Does anyone know how to use ssh in a way that ~/.bashrc is executed at logon ? Currently, I need to start a bash right after logging in, then must enter 'exit' twice to log off.. man bash read the section INVOCATION It will take 5-10 minutes, and I swear it will answer your questions better than anyone on the list. - O -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Hello everyone, Does anyone know how to use ssh in a way that ~/.bashrc is executed at logon ? Currently, I need to start a bash right after logging in, then must enter 'exit' twice to log off.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
What do you have set for your shell? On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Oliver Lange wrote: Hello everyone, Does anyone know how to use ssh in a way that ~/.bashrc is executed at logon ? Currently, I need to start a bash right after logging in, then must enter 'exit' twice to log off.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Oliver Lange said: Does anyone know how to use ssh in a way that ~/.bashrc is executed at logon ? Currently, I need to start a bash right after logging in, then must enter 'exit' twice to log off.. It probably runs ~/.bash_login on login. I've symlinked the two files together, since I expect the same behaviour regarless of my login method. Also, a workaround to the double logout is to just source the file. Run . ~/.bashrc (yes, that's a single dot followed by a space and then your .bashrc) and it will execute ~/.bashrc without causing a second login. -Eric -- arctic bears - email and name services 25 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] CA$11.95/month DNS starting at CA$3.49/month - domains from CA$25.95/year for details contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://www.arcticbears.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh - bash tips
Oliver Lange wrote: Does anyone know how to use ssh in a way that ~/.bashrc is executed at logon ? The exact details of when and why bash, or any other shell, sources files is beyond me but Currently, I need to start a bash right after logging in, then must enter 'exit' twice to log off.. If you run `exec bash` instead of `bash` the exec will exit the first shell as it forks the new shell saving you from having to exit two shells. Run `man bash` and seach for exec for details. Also in un*x most everyhing is a file, including standard in. Also ctrl+d is usually the key combination to send an EOF which, unless your shell has ignoreeof set in the enviroment, will exit the shell, saving you a few key strokes. Sandy McArthur -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Does anyone know how to use ssh in a way that ~/.bashrc is executed at logon ? Currently, I need to start a bash right after logging in, then must enter 'exit' twice to log off.. I have all my init. scripts in ~/.scriptrc and I have it called by ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile so it's called whether I use a login shell or not. -- mathieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:48:30PM -0500, Ric Messier wrote: What do you have set for your shell? On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Oliver Lange wrote: Hello everyone, Does anyone know how to use ssh in a way that ~/.bashrc is executed at logon ? Currently, I need to start a bash right after logging in, then must enter 'exit' twice to log off.. Try this: ssh -t remhost bash -i and maybe add -l for bash, too. - richard -- Richard Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
You could source ~/.bashrc from ~/.bash_profile. On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:34:36 +0100 Oliver Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, Does anyone know how to use ssh in a way that ~/.bashrc is executed at logon ? Currently, I need to start a bash right after logging in, then must enter 'exit' twice to log off.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Ric Messier wrote: What do you have set for your shell? Sorry, i don't understand the question, but there are so many (different!!) replies to my initial question that i guess the answer is already there... i just got to try them all :) Amazing how many different solutions i've already seen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Oliver Lange said: Ric Messier wrote: What do you have set for your shell? Sorry, i don't understand the question The shell is what you use to interact with the operating system. By default in Gentoo you use bash. Common alternatives include sh, ksh, csh, and many many more... -Eric -- arctic bears - email and name services 25 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] CA$11.95/month DNS starting at CA$3.49/month - domains from CA$25.95/year for details contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://www.arcticbears.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
Oliver Lange said: brett holcomb wrote: You could source ~/.bashrc from ~/.bash_profile. What ? Sorry, Linux is still a riddle for me. Could you explain that in - lets say - one or two more lines ? :) When you initiate an interactive session, the shell chooses an initialization script to run based on how you started the session. If you use bash, it may run ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile. The suggestion was to have ~./bash_profile run ~/.bashrc, so that you get the results of ~/.bashrc when you spawned a shell that would normally only run ~/.bash_profile. Personally, I like my suggestion better, which is to symlink one to the other. Since you are using ~/.bashrc, I would delete ~/.bash_profile and link ~/.bash to it. Like this: mv ~/.bash_profile ~/.bash_profile.bkp ln -s ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_profile Then you get the same thing, no matter how you started the shell. Also, you can edit either file and the other gets the edits, since they are really both the same file, just with two names. For me this works since I'm not taking any action in those scripts that depends on how I started the shell. For some people, how they start the shell matters, so this won't work for them. -Eric -- arctic bears - email and name services 25 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] CA$11.95/month DNS starting at CA$3.49/month - domains from CA$25.95/year for details contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://www.arcticbears.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Eric Paynter wrote: When you initiate an interactive session, the shell chooses an initialization script to run based on how you started the session. If you use bash, it may run ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile. Gentoo by default sources .bashrc from .bash_profile which is, of course, why I asked what shell he is using. If .bashrc isn't getting run, then perhaps he has a different shell without realizing it. The problem with symlinking one to the other as you suggest is if you ever use something like scp, you potentially break it, as the comment in .bashrc says. All my profile-ish things that generate output get put, correctly, into .bash_profile. Of course, if you never generate output with your login scripts then you're ok. Just something to keep in mind, though. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
