Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Christoph Gysin
gabriel wrote:
i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this cartoon as
flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has always been 
absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance, chunky redraw etc.
firefox-0.8 & netscape-flash-6.0.79

works great for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Grendel
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, gabriel uttered the following immortal words,

> 
> i have a soundblaster live value card which (as far as i know) is very much 
> capable of mixing multiple channels of audio.  does this mean that i should 
> have multiple copies of /dev/dsp?  (ie. dsp1 dsp2 etc.)  and do i need arts 
> then?  if i don't, how do i disable it forever in kde?
 
No, just that /dev/dsp can be opened multiple times. You dont need esd, 
but for some reason KDE needs artsd to work for sound so you will ne
ed artsd running.

> all i want is to be able to play video/mp3 files and play flash movies with 
> reasonable performance kde, but even on this sweet athlon 2500 w/ 512mb ram, 
> i've not been able to get that.  please tell me i'm missing something.
 
Well my combination is mozilla 1.4 with the libraries from the linux flash 
player.

It works fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread gabriel
On February 26, 2004 11:51 am, Christoph Gysin wrote:
> gabriel wrote:
> i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this cartoon
> as
>
> > flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has always
> > been absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance, chunky
> > redraw etc.
>
> firefox-0.8 & netscape-flash-6.0.79

but what gui?  i have a sneaky suspician that it's kde's arts that's clogging 
up my pipes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Huw Selley
> i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this cartoon as 
> flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has always been 
> absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance, chunky redraw etc.

Seems fine for me using enlightenment and moz firebird.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Sami Samhuri
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 08:21, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote:
> -- quoting Andrew Gaffney --
> > A friend of mine showed me that last night on a different site. What's
> > your high score? I've gotten 731ft using only 2 mines.
> 
> 1008,3 meters :)

Wow I thought I was good with 600-something. ... 

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Sami Samhuri
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 08:44, gabriel wrote:
> On February 26, 2004 11:13 am, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> > Paul Oldham wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:
> > >>http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html
> > >>
> > >>Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull
> > >> my hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
> > >>
> > >>Made my day sooo much better.
> >
> > A friend of mine showed me that last night on a different site. What's your
> > high score? I've gotten 731ft using only 2 mines.
> 
> i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this cartoon as 
> flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has always been 
> absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance, chunky redraw etc.

firefox 0.8, xfce4, 2.6.3, alsa, sb audigy2, geforce4. with that flash
animation i get dismal performance as well but with others it seems to
be fine. try out this version of the game
http://www.planetmars.co.za/games/club.swf and see if it works.

... scratch that. I just went back and found that this (gory) flash was
working great too. only difference between now and last time is a switch
from 2.6.3-gentoo-r1 to 2.6.3-mm2 ... very strange.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Paul Oldham
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 09:50, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 00:49, Paul Oldham wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:
> > > http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html
> > >
> > > Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull my
> > > hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
> > > 
> > > Made my day sooo much better.
> > 
> > Yeah, I really love having my browser window size hijacked to full
> > screen. Fsckwits :-(
> 
> which browser? ... nothing like that happened to me. and I have JS etc.
> enabled.

Opera. Although curiously it's not repeatable now so I withdraw my
accusation of fsckwittedness.

Perhaps it was operator error. Need more caffeine. Give me more
caffeine.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Mental Patient
gabriel wrote:
i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this cartoon as 
flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has always been 
absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance, chunky redraw etc.

I've found it to be less a gui issue, and more a hardware one. I have a 
fairly decent system at work, but it has a soundcard that can only 
handle a single open. If esd, or artsd is running, flash performs 
poorly. If I shut down anything using sound, its fine.

At home I have a sound card that handles multiple opens. It never has 
this problem. See if /dev/dsp is busy when you're trying to use flash, 
then free it up and try again. See if that helps.



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Sami Samhuri --
> Wow I thought I was good with 600-something. ...

That was only luck ... you can punch tux further than 1.000 meters with 
enough mines ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Sami Samhuri
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 00:49, Paul Oldham wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:
> > http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html
> >
> > Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull my
> > hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
> > 
> > Made my day sooo much better.
> 
> Yeah, I really love having my browser window size hijacked to full
> screen. Fsckwits :-(

which browser? ... nothing like that happened to me. and I have JS etc.
enabled.

Sam


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread gabriel
On February 26, 2004 12:20 pm, Mental Patient wrote:
> gabriel wrote:
> > i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this
> > cartoon as flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has
> > always been absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance,
> > chunky redraw etc.
>
> I've found it to be less a gui issue, and more a hardware one. I have a
> fairly decent system at work, but it has a soundcard that can only
> handle a single open. If esd, or artsd is running, flash performs
> poorly. If I shut down anything using sound, its fine.
>
> At home I have a sound card that handles multiple opens. It never has
> this problem. See if /dev/dsp is busy when you're trying to use flash,
> then free it up and try again. See if that helps.

k, i guess i'm still very much in the dark on the topic of audio in linux, but 
can someone explain to me what i'm missing in the following logic?

i have a soundblaster live value card which (as far as i know) is very much 
capable of mixing multiple channels of audio.  does this mean that i should 
have multiple copies of /dev/dsp?  (ie. dsp1 dsp2 etc.)  and do i need arts 
then?  if i don't, how do i disable it forever in kde?

all i want is to be able to play video/mp3 files and play flash movies with 
reasonable performance kde, but even on this sweet athlon 2500 w/ 512mb ram, 
i've not been able to get that.  please tell me i'm missing something.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Paul Oldham
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:
> http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html
>
> Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull my
> hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
> 
> Made my day sooo much better.

Yeah, I really love having my browser window size hijacked to full
screen. Fsckwits :-(

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Mental Patient
gabriel wrote:
k, i guess i'm still very much in the dark on the topic of audio in linux, but 
can someone explain to me what i'm missing in the following logic?

i have a soundblaster live value card which (as far as i know) is very much 
capable of mixing multiple channels of audio.  does this mean that i should 
have multiple copies of /dev/dsp?  (ie. dsp1 dsp2 etc.)  and do i need arts 
then?  if i don't, how do i disable it forever in kde?

Yes, its capable of multiple opens, no you done need multiple 
/dev/dsp's, it should just work.

The kde control panel has arts settings IIRC. I dont really use kde on a 
regular basis.


all i want is to be able to play video/mp3 files and play flash movies with 
reasonable performance kde, but even on this sweet athlon 2500 w/ 512mb ram, 
i've not been able to get that.  please tell me i'm missing something.

Well, I have similar hardware, and have no issues with it. What kernel 
are you running? I'm using 2.6.3 with alsa drivers.

Does doing any single one of these tasks work? IE: Can you play mp3's 
fine? When does everything get slow? If you think its kde related, try a 
simpler window manager and see how things work there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Andrew Gaffney
gabriel wrote:
On February 26, 2004 11:13 am, Andrew Gaffney wrote:

Paul Oldham wrote:

On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:

http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html

Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull
my hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
Made my day sooo much better.
A friend of mine showed me that last night on a different site. What's your
high score? I've gotten 731ft using only 2 mines.


i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this cartoon as 
flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has always been 
absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance, chunky redraw etc.
Mozilla 1.6, Fluxbox, Esound, netscape-flash-6.0.79

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread gabriel
On February 26, 2004 02:55 pm, Mental Patient wrote:
> Well, I have similar hardware, and have no issues with it. What kernel
> are you running? I'm using 2.6.3 with alsa drivers.

i'm running vanilla-sources 2.4.25 with oss drivers here @work.  my athlon800 
@home is running vanilla-2.4.25 with alsa and the performance is the same.

> Does doing any single one of these tasks work? IE: Can you play mp3's
> fine? When does everything get slow? If you think its kde related, try a
> simpler window manager and see how things work there.

i can play mp3s, videos and tv (all-in-wonder radeon @home) and i can even 
play them all at the same time without issue.

playing flash however gibbles my mp3s (can't test video & tv 'cause i'm 
@work).  the audio sort of "chunks" while my cpu load runs at about an 
average of 50% varying more with the movement on the screen than any sound 
events.  note that this happens with noatun and juk, as xmms somehow causes 
arts to explode at random.

i've used mozilla under windowmaker on my machine @home in the past and the 
flash worked flawlessly, which led me to believe that the issue was arts.  
but that doesn't help me since i can't figure out how to make it die and 
never come back and still have sound in flash.

ie. i've just now disabled the sound mixer in the kde control panel, and while 
xmms works great (no skips, even when playing that flash game), i also have 
no sound in the flash game, or any sound events.  i'm restricted to xmms & 
mplayer.

i think i hate arts

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:34:25 -0500
gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i have a soundblaster live value card which (as far as i know) is very much 
> capable of mixing multiple channels of audio.  does this mean that i should 
> have multiple copies of /dev/dsp?  (ie. dsp1 dsp2 etc.)  and do i need arts 
> then?  if i don't, how do i disable it forever in kde?

I have posted a patch for kdelibs-3.2.0 into Gentoo Bugzilla, which adds use of
"arts" USE flag, as the configure script for kdelibs supports "--without-arts"
option, but the official ebuild does not:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40295

As this is the only core kde ebuild I am using, I did not bother to patch other
ebuilds. Some volunteers?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Collin Starkweather
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 09:50, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Mozilla 1.6, Fluxbox, Esound, netscape-flash-6.0.79

I'm having problems as well.  (See my "No sound on laptop" post.)  I've
got esound and netscape-flash installed (latest and greatest) and it
looks like I've got all the right drivers installed but am getting nada
for sound.  XMMS (looking at the blur scope since I can't hear anything)
is hiccupping along when I try to play an MP3.  It's almost painful to
watch.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Paul Oldham wrote:
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:

http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html

Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull my
hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
Made my day sooo much better.
A friend of mine showed me that last night on a different site. What's your high score? 
I've gotten 731ft using only 2 mines.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Andrew Gaffney --
> A friend of mine showed me that last night on a different site. What's
> your high score? I've gotten 731ft using only 2 mines.

1008,3 meters :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: For anyone having a bad day with thier servers....

2004-02-26 Thread gabriel
On February 26, 2004 11:13 am, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Paul Oldham wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:43, Reno Romanin wrote:
> >>http://www.8ung.at/peacekeeper/index.html
> >>
> >>Sorry for the spam, but a friend sent this to me when i was about to pull
> >> my hair out with some "issues" I was having with a few servers...
> >>
> >>Made my day sooo much better.
>
> A friend of mine showed me that last night on a different site. What's your
> high score? I've gotten 731ft using only 2 mines.

i'm interested to know what browser/gui you all are using for this cartoon as 
flash performance on my box (kde with konquror or mozilla) has always been 
absolutely miserable: audio out of sync, slow performance, chunky redraw etc.

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