[gentoo-user] OT - Email question
On our LAN we have three PCs: baby.espersunited.com, bullet.espersunited.com, and blossom.espersunited.com. Blossom is our newest addition and it is my wife's personal computer, as baby is mine. Blossom's hard drive is not large enough to hold Windows and Linux and my wife would rather have her full installation of Windows ME if she cannot have both. We're planning to upgrade the hard drive soon. Anyway, she now uses my computer (baby) for her Linux needs including various cron jobs. Unfortunately, baby's cron sends cron reports for cron jobs through local mail on baby. bullet.espersunited.com (I mentioned before) holds our mail/ftp/www servers. It is running Fedora Core 1 because I have other users relying on it and I don't trust myself to have Gentoo installation with everything working correctly on it in a timely manner. I'll have to wait until we get another PC that can do bullet's job until I'm confident that everything works right. Anyway, bullet is running an IMAP server. My wife uses blossom and baby to get her mail from there. I cannot figure out how to get baby to mail it's cron reports to bullet so that my wife can pick them up there from her computer. I've tried using the mail command on baby to send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bullet.espersunited.com is also recognized by my ISP's DNS database to point to the same address as espersunited.com; my router handles the rest), but the mail I sent just came to my local inbox here on baby. Do I need to set up my own local DNS server for espersunited.com? I have all computers on the network identified in /etc/hosts. How can I fix this so that my wife doesn't have to log onto baby to check her cron mail? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I was able to contact Birch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] They told me to have my aunt forward them the emails directly. They called her today and said that they knew who it was but they needed a court order to release the information. She called the detective who had been assigned to the case and he will be giving the information to the prosecutor. -- Andrew Gaffney Network Administrator Skyline Aeronautics, LLC. 636-357-1548 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
Grendel wrote: On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Shore wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Ted Ozolins wrote: Isn't this an FBI jurisdiction. I would email them (at least forward the trash she's been getting). Once they have probable cause, they can then get the court orders needed to track the sick bastard down (hopefully put him down while their at it) If Hotmail won't give you any details about their user, They need not, all you have to do is to carefully examine the header of the email and it will tell you from which IP addres the email orignated from, ie hotmail headers contain the senders IP address. Then do a whois and you will have your info, at least you will know his ISP at the very least. And you can tell the ISP that this creep is abusing him. Here is a a example whois 217.120.235.178 role: AtHome Benelux Network Operations Centre address: Gyroscoopweg 90-92 address: 1042 AX Amsterdam phone:+31 20 885 5544 fax-no: +31 20 885 5525 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] trouble: Please report abuse by e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] admin-c: AVL52-RIPE tech-c: HOME2-RIPE nic-hdl: ABNO1-RIPE Thanks for the tip. I'd already gotten that far by doing a traceroute on the IP. It is a local business DSL ISP, so I believe that this person is doing it from work. I've sent an email to the abuse@ address of this ISP and am awaiting a response. -- Andrew Gaffney Network Administrator Skyline Aeronautics, LLC. 636-357-1548 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Shore wrote: > On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Ted Ozolins wrote: > > > Isn't this an FBI jurisdiction. I would email them (at least forward the > > trash she's been getting). Once they have probable cause, they can then > > get the court orders needed to track the sick bastard down (hopefully > > put him down while their at it) > > If Hotmail won't give you any details about their user, They need not, all you have to do is to carefully examine the header of the email and it will tell you from which IP addres the email orignated from, ie hotmail headers contain the senders IP address. Then do a whois and you will have your info, at least you will know his ISP at the very least. And you can tell the ISP that this creep is abusing him. Here is a a example whois 217.120.235.178 role: AtHome Benelux Network Operations Centre address: Gyroscoopweg 90-92 address: 1042 AX Amsterdam phone:+31 20 885 5544 fax-no: +31 20 885 5525 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] trouble: Please report abuse by e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] admin-c: AVL52-RIPE tech-c: HOME2-RIPE nic-hdl: ABNO1-RIPE >ask them to hold > onto the relevant logs so that you can have your local law enforcement > request them in one of many ways. Then visit your local police station > *in person* with your aunt and possibiy her daughter. Bring along printed > copies of the harassing email(s). Make sure one of the ladies shows some > strong emotion (tears work every time). Artificial tears can be bought easily at shops. Work like a charm ;-) Grendel -- Hi, I'm a signature virus. plz set me as your signature and help me spread :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Ted Ozolins wrote: > Isn't this an FBI jurisdiction. I would email them (at least forward the > trash she's been getting). Once they have probable cause, they can then > get the court orders needed to track the sick bastard down (hopefully > put him down while their at it) That's IF you can get the interested. In my experience you'll have little change of getting them involved unless the person is making threats of some sort (and graphic ones at that). If Hotmail won't give you any details about their user, ask them to hold onto the relevant logs so that you can have your local law enforcement request them in one of many ways. Then visit your local police station *in person* with your aunt and possibiy her daughter. Bring along printed copies of the harassing email(s). Make sure one of the ladies shows some strong emotion (tears work every time). Explain the nitty gritty to the cop and let them know that you requested MS keep the relevant logs for the cops to request. If they won't take any action you should try your state's BI. They might be inclined to help. If no law enforcement agency gives a hoot call you local TV station and give them the scoop on how the cops won't investigate further. This usually works quite well. Best of luck. Justin -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
040206 Andrew Gaffney wrote: > I know this is a bit OT, but I've got a question. > My stepmom's sister has been getting some creepy and/or stalkerish emails > from someone with the email address '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. > This person knows what her daughters and her car look like. > What can she do? Should she report it to the police? yes, definitely, without any delay ! this type of thing can get deadly if left unattended to. > Can they do anything without knowing who it is? it depends a lot on where she lives: police vary in skill & funding. > Would contacting MSN/Hotmail do any good? she could do that as well, but the police would get action more quickly. anyway, tell her to take it very seriously & get the police after him. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
Andrew Gaffney wrote: On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 16:26, Andrew Gaffney wrote: I know this is a bit OT, but I've got a question. My stepmom's sister has been getting some creepy and/or stalkerish emails from someone with the email address '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. This person knows what her daughters and her car look like. What can she do? Should she report it to the police? Can they do anything without knowing who it is? Would contacting MSN/Hotmail do any good? Isn't this an FBI jurisdiction. I would email them (at least forward the trash she's been getting). Once they have probable cause, they can then get the court orders needed to track the sick bastard down (hopefully put him down while their at it) -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > I sent an email back to her asking for her to forward me the emails as > attachments instead of inline like she did before. I was going to do as > much as doing a traceroute on the originating IP to find out their ISP. > Maybe that can help her identify who she things it is. Several things to do, 1. First of all NEVER reply to this type of emails, just by replying you are encouraging them. 2. browse the headers in the original email, and figure out the senders ip address, do a whois (should give you the name and adress of whoever owns the network where this creep is getting access) and get in touch with the ISP and wait a bit, if no response get in touch with the police. Bye, Grendel -- Hi, I'm a signature virus. plz set me as your signature and help me spread :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
I sent an email back to her asking for her to forward me the emails as attachments instead of inline like she did before. I was going to do as much as doing a traceroute on the originating IP to find out their ISP. Maybe that can help her identify who she things it is. FX wrote: You can get more information for the cops with the Email header info. If this person is using hotmail. They can get some info from the header to follow up on this person. Following it back to the isp account that was used to send the email. On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 16:26, Andrew Gaffney wrote: I know this is a bit OT, but I've got a question. My stepmom's sister has been getting some creepy and/or stalkerish emails from someone with the email address '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. This person knows what her daughters and her car look like. What can she do? Should she report it to the police? Can they do anything without knowing who it is? Would contacting MSN/Hotmail do any good? -- Andrew Gaffney Network Administrator Skyline Aeronautics, LLC. 636-357-1548 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
You can get more information for the cops with the Email header info. If this person is using hotmail. They can get some info from the header to follow up on this person. Following it back to the isp account that was used to send the email. On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 16:26, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > I know this is a bit OT, but I've got a question. My stepmom's sister has been > getting > some creepy and/or stalkerish emails from someone with the email address > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. This person knows what her daughters and her car look like. > What > can she do? Should she report it to the police? Can they do anything without knowing > who > it is? Would contacting MSN/Hotmail do any good? -- FX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
I know this is a bit OT, but I've got a question. My stepmom's sister has been getting some creepy and/or stalkerish emails from someone with the email address '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. This person knows what her daughters and her car look like. What can she do? Should she report it to the police? Can they do anything without knowing who it is? Would contacting MSN/Hotmail do any good? -- Andrew Gaffney Network Administrator Skyline Aeronautics, LLC. 636-357-1548 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email
On Saturday 04 October 2003 11:13 pm, Brett wrote: > On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 12:45, Ernie Schroder wrote: > > My email accounts servers were down for >2 hours this evening > > with service returning about an hour ago I refuse to believe that > > the last message posted to Gentoo users list was at 7:46:44 I'm > > wondering if missed messages will eventually show up or if > > they're lost. Several test messages from other accounts have > > arrived so I know mail is up > > You don't specific what time frame you are using, GMT? local? > From a quick look at my mail there is a five hour gap this morning > in email for me from ~5:30am to ~10:30 (GMT +10), so you might not > have missed mail. In any case email servers would have (I believe) > queued your mail for up to a couple of days(?) before bouncing. > > Brett > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Thanks Brett. The list mail did in fact queue up. I received about 10 other posts from gentoo-users when my post came back. I had a feeling that that would happen, but I so dislike when others send "test" emails to lists ;-) Time here is 11:48 PM I run localtime (US eastern Daylight time) -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 12:45, Ernie Schroder wrote: > My email accounts servers were down for >2 hours this evening with > service returning about an hour ago I refuse to believe that the last > message posted to Gentoo users list was at 7:46:44 I'm wondering if > missed messages will eventually show up or if they're lost. Several > test messages from other accounts have arrived so I know mail is up You don't specific what time frame you are using, GMT? local? >From a quick look at my mail there is a five hour gap this morning in email for me from ~5:30am to ~10:30 (GMT +10), so you might not have missed mail. In any case email servers would have (I believe) queued your mail for up to a couple of days(?) before bouncing. Brett -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: email
My email accounts servers were down for >2 hours this evening with service returning about an hour ago I refuse to believe that the last message posted to Gentoo users list was at 7:46:44 I'm wondering if missed messages will eventually show up or if they're lost. Several test messages from other accounts have arrived so I know mail is up -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
