[gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   This has been an ongoing problem for me. Can anyone recommend a UPS for a
Linux desktop type machine that can do an automated shutdown and runs in the
neighborhood of $100? I have no trouble with this in Windows, doing it with
$60 USB versions from APC, but I haven't found anything similar for Linux.

   If you've solved this problem, please respond back with both the UPS
model number (if possible) and where to get the drivers.

Thanks,
Mark



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Re: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Patrick
Might be a bit out of that price range but mge ups's come with some nifty
toys.

P
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| Hi,
|This has been an ongoing problem for me. Can anyone recommend a UPS for
a
| Linux desktop type machine that can do an automated shutdown and runs in
the
| neighborhood of $100? I have no trouble with this in Windows, doing it
with
| $60 USB versions from APC, but I haven't found anything similar for Linux.
|
|If you've solved this problem, please respond back with both the UPS
| model number (if possible) and where to get the drivers.
|
| Thanks,
| Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Chip Marshall
On September 03, 2003, Mark Knecht sent me the following:
This has been an ongoing problem for me. Can anyone recommend a UPS for a
 Linux desktop type machine that can do an automated shutdown and runs in the
 neighborhood of $100? I have no trouble with this in Windows, doing it with
 $60 USB versions from APC, but I haven't found anything similar for Linux.

What's wrong with using the APC USB UPS under Linux? My little BackUPS
works just fine with apcupsd (I'm pretty sure it's in portage)

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Re: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread dsoper
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 04:50:55PM +0200, Patrick wrote:

 |This has been an ongoing problem for me. Can anyone recommend a UPS for
 a
 | Linux desktop type machine that can do an automated shutdown and runs in
 the
 | neighborhood of $100? I have no trouble with this in Windows, doing it
 with
 | $60 USB versions from APC, but I haven't found anything similar for Linux.
 |
 |If you've solved this problem, please respond back with both the UPS
 | model number (if possible) and where to get the drivers.

I like the APC BK500JS.  It costs ~$135 (USD) and has a serial port
connection.  For drivers, just 'emerge apcupsd', which, IMO is a *much*
better package than apc's drivers.

Cheers,
Dennis
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RE: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Knecht

 What's wrong with using the APC USB UPS under Linux? My little BackUPS
 works just fine with apcupsd (I'm pretty sure it's in portage)


Chip,
   I'll check into it. My Windows box uses a little BackUPS CS-350. APC
supplies some Linux drivers online at their site, but the last time I looked
they only worked with serial ports, not USB, so I understood that I could
not use this model for my Linux box.

   I didn't know about apcupsd in the Gentoo database. Thanks!

Cheers,
Mark



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RE: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Knecht


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 Might be a bit out of that price range but mge ups's come with some nifty
 toys.

 P


MGE Ellipse 800 USB UPS Seems a bit higher in price - More like $150 on
line. No mention I've seen so far about Linux shutdown support.

Am I missing it? Shouldn't the apcupsd page have a good list of all the
UPS's, by model number, that people have tested? That would be nice...

And since this is MGE, is it supported by apcupsd anyway? Probably not.

Thanks,
Mark



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Re: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Mark,

Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 3. September 2003, 16:41:49:

 Hi,
This has been an ongoing problem for me. Can anyone recommend a UPS for a
 Linux desktop type machine that can do an automated shutdown and runs in the
 neighborhood of $100? I have no trouble with this in Windows, doing it with
 $60 USB versions from APC, but I haven't found anything similar for Linux.

If you've solved this problem, please respond back with both the UPS
 model number (if possible) and where to get the drivers.

APC-SmartUPS 700 go for $65 (used) on ebay, with a set of new batteries
you would be near $100. They work with nut (network-ups-tools, in
portage).


 Timo


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RE: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Knecht

 What's wrong with using the APC USB UPS under Linux? My little BackUPS
 works just fine with apcupsd (I'm pretty sure it's in portage)

Chip,
   Do you have a model number for your USB APC? Is it by chance a BackUPS
CS-500 ($110) or CS-350? ($74)

Thanks,
Mark



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RE: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Knecht

 APC-SmartUPS 700 go for $65 (used) on ebay, with a set of new batteries
 you would be near $100. They work with nut (network-ups-tools, in
 portage).


  Timo

Timo,
   I'll keep ebay in mind. I was sort of avoiding APC serial based units. My
project studio PCs are all dual boot (for instance Windows running
GigaSampler and Linux running soft synths) and in the past APC made you
change which model of serial cable you had to use for Windows vs. Linux.
Weird 'eh? For that reason I'm focusing on USB if I can possibly find one,
which it appears I can.

Thanks very much,
Mark



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Re: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread brett holcomb
If you need cheap go APC - they have cheap models.  You 
might check out nuts which is supposed to do various model 
UPSs. I think they are at www.nuts.org and are in portage.

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 07:41:49 -0700
 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
   This has been an ongoing problem for me. Can anyone 
recommend a UPS for a
Linux desktop type machine that can do an automated 
shutdown and runs in the
neighborhood of $100? I have no trouble with this in 
Windows, doing it with
$60 USB versions from APC, but I haven't found anything 
similar for Linux.

   If you've solved this problem, please respond back 
with both the UPS
model number (if possible) and where to get the drivers.

Thanks,
Mark


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Re: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Mark,

Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 3. September 2003, 19:19:19:

 Chip,
Do you have a model number for your USB APC? Is it by chance a BackUPS
 CS-500 ($110) or CS-350? ($74)

the Smart-UPS-Series has some cool monitoring functions (temperature,
line-voltage, batt-voltage, batt-percentage, load-percentage)...
I wouldn't want to miss them.

 Timo


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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Mark,

Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 3. September 2003, 19:24:51:


 APC-SmartUPS 700 go for $65 (used) on ebay, with a set of new
 batteries you would be near $100. They work with nut
 (network-ups-tools, in portage).

  Timo

 Timo,
I'll keep ebay in mind. I was sort of avoiding APC serial based
 units. My project studio PCs are all dual boot (for instance Windows
 running GigaSampler and Linux running soft synths) and in the past
 APC made you change which model of serial cable you had to use for
 Windows vs. Linux. Weird 'eh? For that reason I'm focusing on USB if
 I can possibly find one,  which it appears I can.

I have three smart-ups working with the standard-cable with linux
(haven't tried windows yet, but you could connect the UPS's serial
cable to a different machine then the one you get power with, and get
the UPS's state via network. (See Monitoring Diagrams on
http://www.exploits.org/nut/features.html) That works fine for me,
btw.

 Timo


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Re: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Daniel Robbins
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 08:41, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
This has been an ongoing problem for me. Can anyone recommend a UPS for a
 Linux desktop type machine that can do an automated shutdown and runs in the
 neighborhood of $100? I have no trouble with this in Windows, doing it with
 $60 USB versions from APC, but I haven't found anything similar for Linux.
 
If you've solved this problem, please respond back with both the UPS
 model number (if possible) and where to get the drivers.

APC BackUPS XS 1000; has a USB hook-up, works with apcupsd and runs
about $125 for 1000VA. I picked mine up at Office Depot, and they're
also available at CompUSA. It's what I use, and it works well for me.
Note: this is not an official endorsement :)

Best Regards,

Daniel


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Re: [gentoo-user] The $100 Linux UPS Challenge

2003-09-03 Thread Jason Cooper
Mark Knecht ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Hi,
This has been an ongoing problem for me. Can anyone recommend a UPS for a
 Linux desktop type machine that can do an automated shutdown and runs in the
 neighborhood of $100? I have no trouble with this in Windows, doing it with
 $60 USB versions from APC, but I haven't found anything similar for Linux.
 
If you've solved this problem, please respond back with both the UPS
 model number (if possible) and where to get the drivers.

Hows about on the way to working?

I bought a BackUPS 300 for $10 at a hamfest.  I found out later it was
$10 because the cable (serial) was missing.  Of course it's a custom
serial cable.  So I found directions on the net for building your own
cable (wire, connectors and a resistor).  The linux daemon is called
'apcupsd' (often confused with cupsd).  Unfortunately, right now it is 
just battery backup, I don't have the cable made due to schedule-creap 
of other projects with higher priority... *8v)

So I guess my suggestion is to take a look at apcupsd.

HTH

Cooper.

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