Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:16:04 +0100 Jean Magnan de Bornier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe the online administrator manual could help: > http://localhost:631/sam.html#RemoteRoot Read the manual? what a novel approach! > > cheers > -- > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
Le 02/03/05 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit notamment: > On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:02:28 -0400, Arran Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > On a side note, this problem would be a little less severe if I could >> > > restart the printer without being root. Can anyone provide a hint for >> > > that? >> > >> > use sudo perhaps? >> > >> >> At the risk of making a fool of myself (because I've never actually used >> sudo), I don't think that applies. >> >> In my case, anyone can browse to http://localhost:631/ and see things. >> You click "Printers" and it shows the printer to be "Stopped". So you >> click "Start Printer" and the browser pops up with a username/password >> prompt. The only account that seems to work for this is root's. >> >> Not only is this annoying, it doesn't seem Linux-like to collect the >> root password in such a way. Is there a group that I'm supposed to add >> users to so they can admin CUPS? >> >> Anyhoo, I've now officially hijacked the thread. Remember, the original >> poster was really looking for a solution to why CUPS stopped the printer >> in the first place. >> > > Not a hijack if the original author agrees. Seems ot me that you've > got it more or less right in my case also. As root all I did was tell > the printer to start. I'd like it if a user could do the same. Maybe the online administrator manual could help: http://localhost:631/sam.html#RemoteRoot cheers -- Jean Magnan de Bornier 3 Cours Victor Hugo, 13980 Alleins France Tel: 08 70 39 34 03Port: 06 09 17 35 87 e-mots: jean*at*bornier.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:02:28 -0400, Arran Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On a side note, this problem would be a little less severe if I could > > > restart the printer without being root. Can anyone provide a hint for > > > that? > > > > use sudo perhaps? > > > > At the risk of making a fool of myself (because I've never actually used > sudo), I don't think that applies. > > In my case, anyone can browse to http://localhost:631/ and see things. > You click "Printers" and it shows the printer to be "Stopped". So you > click "Start Printer" and the browser pops up with a username/password > prompt. The only account that seems to work for this is root's. > > Not only is this annoying, it doesn't seem Linux-like to collect the > root password in such a way. Is there a group that I'm supposed to add > users to so they can admin CUPS? > > Anyhoo, I've now officially hijacked the thread. Remember, the original > poster was really looking for a solution to why CUPS stopped the printer > in the first place. > Not a hijack if the original author agrees. Seems ot me that you've got it more or less right in my case also. As root all I did was tell the printer to start. I'd like it if a user could do the same. thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
> > On a side note, this problem would be a little less severe if I could > > restart the printer without being root. Can anyone provide a hint for > > that? > > use sudo perhaps? > At the risk of making a fool of myself (because I've never actually used sudo), I don't think that applies. In my case, anyone can browse to http://localhost:631/ and see things. You click "Printers" and it shows the printer to be "Stopped". So you click "Start Printer" and the browser pops up with a username/password prompt. The only account that seems to work for this is root's. Not only is this annoying, it doesn't seem Linux-like to collect the root password in such a way. Is there a group that I'm supposed to add users to so they can admin CUPS? Anyhoo, I've now officially hijacked the thread. Remember, the original poster was really looking for a solution to why CUPS stopped the printer in the first place. -- Arran -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 09:12:22 -0400 Arran Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On a side note, this problem would be a little less severe if I could > restart the printer without being root. Can anyone provide a hint for > that? use sudo perhaps? -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 07:12 am, Arran Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, it is often a default setting to log everything to vt-12, which > you can see by pressing . (Return to your GUI with > .) FWIW, this was not enabled by default when I installed gentoo. It is fairly simply to enable it, but you have to twiddle the metalog configuration and a shell script. Also, you'd have to change metalog to non-buffered (default varies based on metalog ebuild version). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
> > > > What do you mean by "off-line" - I usually take this to mean an > > electrical disconnection by, for example, pushing the "offline" button > > on the printer. do you mean cupsd stops running or something? Do you > > mean the printer physically turns itself off? > > Oh, sorry. I open CUPS manager in Mozilla (localhost:631) and look at > the printer. I'm told it's 'Stopped'. There's a button there to > 'Start' the printer which I do and it starts printing whatever is in > the print queue. For what it's worth, I administer a box (also for my Dad) with this same problem. Having to restart the printer at an obscure URL with the root password every once in a while has not helped me confince them of the merits of Linux! The computer is off right now, so I can't get the exact logs for you. However, when inspecting it earlier I noticed cups saying that a print job has exited with a non-zero status code, and that entry seemed to correlate the the printer becoming "Stopped". I was at a lost as to how to convince CUPS to keep the printer "Started" no matter what happens to an individual print job -- and, the only forums I could find reporting this error remain unsolved. > > > > OK, how far apart are these messages, dmesg doesn't tell you, but > > /var/log/syslog | /var/log/klog may do. > > Don't have either AFAICT: > > gandalf log # ls > Xorg.0.log criticaleverything lastlog pwdfail wtmp > Xorg.0.log.old crond ftpdmail scrollkeeper.log xdm.log > apache2 cupsgdm news sshd > apcupsd.events emerge.log kernel ntpd.log telnet > gandalf log # ps aux | grep log > root 6827 0.0 0.1 1516 664 ?Ss Jan28 0:00 metalog > [MASTER] > root 6828 0.0 0.1 1468 536 ?SJan28 0:00 metalog > [KERNEL] Looked in everything/current and saw nothing interesting. Looked in > the cups error log. Nothing there either. Edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and set the LogLevel to debug. Then, restart cups and you'll find *lots* more info in /var/log/cups/* On a side note, this problem would be a little less severe if I could restart the printer without being root. Can anyone provide a hint for that? > Don't know where metalog > puts what you might be interested in. > You can probably figure out from metalog's config where it puts stuff; look for it in /etc/*metalog* Also, it is often a default setting to log everything to vt-12, which you can see by pressing . (Return to your GUI with .) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
maybe the file or directory called "kernel" in the log directory. if all else fails grep the log directory for what you want, that should id the file you need to look at. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:08:38 -0800 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looked in everything/current and saw nothing interesting. Looked in > the cups error log. Nothing there either. Don't know where metalog > puts what you might be interested in. -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:54:19 +1300, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:27:06 -0800 > Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > >We've got a nice Gentoo box that's been working pretty well for > > about 16 months but for some reason printing continues to be sort of > > problematic. No idea if this is a Gentoo issue or a CUPS issue. Thanks > > in advance. > > > >For whatever reason the printer will, at times, just go off line. > > It's an Epson All-in-One printer/scanner/copier. When it's online it > > works fine. However it goes off line at odd times and then I have to > > ssh into the box and start it up as my dad, now in his late 70's, is > > not administering it at all. > > What do you mean by "off-line" - I usually take this to mean an > electrical disconnection by, for example, pushing the "offline" button > on the printer. do you mean cupsd stops running or something? Do you > mean the printer physically turns itself off? Oh, sorry. I open CUPS manager in Mozilla (localhost:631) and look at the printer. I'm told it's 'Stopped'. There's a button there to 'Start' the printer which I do and it starts printing whatever is in the print queue. > > Incidentally I have a problem where my wife cannot print from her win2k > box unless I restart hpoj [1], cupsd and samba in somewhat random order > until it works. Very annoying. perhaps related. > > you haven't told us whteher your father is printing from gentoo or > somewhere else on his lan (if he has one). Printing from Gentoo only. I don't run Samba on this machine and the printer isn't (or shouldn't be) shared. > > [1] hpoj isn't relevant to you, it is a service related to hp printers > > > >Why do printers go off line in Linux? The last time it happened he > > had received a warning message earlier in the day in dmesg about > > magenta ink being low. Does CUPS/Linux automatically take a printer > > off line for that sort of reason? Can that be changed? > > > >This morning I'm seeing the following in dmesg: > > > > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3 > > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if > > 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 > > usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 > > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed > > ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup > > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4 > > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if > > 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 > > usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 4 > > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed > > ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup > > > > OK, how far apart are these messages, dmesg doesn't tell you, but > /var/log/syslog | /var/log/klog may do. Don't have either AFAICT: gandalf log # ls Xorg.0.log criticaleverything lastlog pwdfail wtmp Xorg.0.log.old crond ftpdmail scrollkeeper.log xdm.log apache2 cupsgdm news sshd apcupsd.events emerge.log kernel ntpd.log telnet gandalf log # ps aux | grep log root 6827 0.0 0.1 1516 664 ?Ss Jan28 0:00 metalog [MASTER] root 6828 0.0 0.1 1468 536 ?SJan28 0:00 metalog [KERNEL] Looked in everything/current and saw nothing interesting. Looked in the cups error log. Nothing there either. Don't know where metalog puts what you might be interested in. If I shouldn't be using metalog and there are some simple instructions on how to change to something else I'd be happy to do that. This is the only machine I have using that. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:27:06 -0800 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >We've got a nice Gentoo box that's been working pretty well for > about 16 months but for some reason printing continues to be sort of > problematic. No idea if this is a Gentoo issue or a CUPS issue. Thanks > in advance. > >For whatever reason the printer will, at times, just go off line. > It's an Epson All-in-One printer/scanner/copier. When it's online it > works fine. However it goes off line at odd times and then I have to > ssh into the box and start it up as my dad, now in his late 70's, is > not administering it at all. What do you mean by "off-line" - I usually take this to mean an electrical disconnection by, for example, pushing the "offline" button on the printer. do you mean cupsd stops running or something? Do you mean the printer physically turns itself off? Incidentally I have a problem where my wife cannot print from her win2k box unless I restart hpoj [1], cupsd and samba in somewhat random order until it works. Very annoying. perhaps related. you haven't told us whteher your father is printing from gentoo or somewhere else on his lan (if he has one). [1] hpoj isn't relevant to you, it is a service related to hp printers > >Why do printers go off line in Linux? The last time it happened he > had received a warning message earlier in the day in dmesg about > magenta ink being low. Does CUPS/Linux automatically take a printer > off line for that sort of reason? Can that be changed? > >This morning I'm seeing the following in dmesg: > > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3 > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if > 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 > usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed > ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4 > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if > 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 > usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 4 > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed > ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup > OK, how far apart are these messages, dmesg doesn't tell you, but /var/log/syslog | /var/log/klog may do. > > > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 15 if > 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 > usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 15 > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed > ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 16 > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 16 if > 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 > usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 16 > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed > ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 17 > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 17 if > 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark $ > > > Any ideas what this is about? > > Thanks in advance for your ideas. > > Cheers, > Mark > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] USB printer questions...
Hi, We've got a nice Gentoo box that's been working pretty well for about 16 months but for some reason printing continues to be sort of problematic. No idea if this is a Gentoo issue or a CUPS issue. Thanks in advance. For whatever reason the printer will, at times, just go off line. It's an Epson All-in-One printer/scanner/copier. When it's online it works fine. However it goes off line at odd times and then I have to ssh into the box and start it up as my dad, now in his late 70's, is not administering it at all. Why do printers go off line in Linux? The last time it happened he had received a warning message earlier in the day in dmesg about magenta ink being low. Does CUPS/Linux automatically take a printer off line for that sort of reason? Can that be changed? This morning I'm seeing the following in dmesg: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 4 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 15 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 15 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 16 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 16 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 16 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 17 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 17 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark $ Any ideas what this is about? Thanks in advance for your ideas. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
