Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
Alec Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 19:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Slashdot has picked it up now (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/01/0234215). Good job, Kurt! -- Alec Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key DFB366F2 Thanks for giving away the April Fools Joke. Remind me to read the GWN before the user list from now on! :p -- Louis C. Candell -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Tuesday 01 April 2003 04:29, Norberto BENSA wrote: On Monday 31 March 2003 10:27 pm, gregor battig wrote: man, i was already getting seriously worried... You're not the only one ;-) At first I said: WHAT!? RPM!? I was allready thinking of starting my own fork. Thanks that I don't have to. RPM compatibility is OK, as long as it doesn't limit portage functionality in ANY way. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Researcher Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
Of course it is an april fools joke. EBuild is what make Gentoo what it is (with all of its many pros and many cons). Tom Veldhouse - Original Message - From: Mike Atamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:19 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] april fools? Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Mike Atamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Acually I thought it was to far fetched. But thought damn this is going to get a lot of people. ;-) Good joke! -Original Message- From: Kurt Lieber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] april fools? On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 08:19:15PM -0500 or thereabouts, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Just as a follow up to all this, yes, it's a joke. Yes, we hooked an amazine number of people and yes, I enjoyed every minute of it. :) Quite honestly, I'm surprised that so many people believed it. To me, the notion that Gentoo would dump ebuilds in favor of RPMs is so far from the realm of possibility as to be absurd. Obviously, some folks didn't find it quite so impossible. :) I've received some feedback that perhaps I did too good of a job when writing the piece and made things too believable. Hopefully, no harm was done. Certainly none was intended. --kurt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Quite honestly, I'm surprised that so many people believed it. To me, the notion that Gentoo would dump ebuilds in favor of RPMs is so far from the realm of possibility as to be absurd. Obviously, some folks didn't find it quite so impossible. :) Oh, this wasn't too bad.. you should have seen the Userfriendly.org April Fools Day joke blow up several years ago. ;) I just imagined 5000 admins throwing up their arms and yelling D'OH! after reading that article. ;) -Jonathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Kudos' to you Kurt! You have no idea how relived I was when I started seeing the posts on Slashdot about April Fools... I have to admit to feeling a bit sheepish for falling for the trick, but hey that's what April Fools is all about. NICE ONE! Original Message- From: Kurt Lieber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] april fools? On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 08:19:15PM -0500 or thereabouts, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Just as a follow up to all this, yes, it's a joke. Yes, we hooked an amazine number of people and yes, I enjoyed every minute of it. :) Quite honestly, I'm surprised that so many people believed it. To me, the notion that Gentoo would dump ebuilds in favor of RPMs is so far from the realm of possibility as to be absurd. Obviously, some folks didn't find it quite so impossible. :) I've received some feedback that perhaps I did too good of a job when writing the piece and made things too believable. Hopefully, no harm was done. Certainly none was intended. --kurt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 08:30, Graham, Steve wrote: Just as a follow up to all this, yes, it's a joke. Yes, we hooked an amazine number of people and yes, I enjoyed every minute of it. :) Quite honestly, I'm surprised that so many people believed it. To me, the notion that Gentoo would dump ebuilds in favor of RPMs is so far from the realm of possibility as to be absurd. Obviously, some folks didn't find it quite so impossible. :) I've received some feedback that perhaps I did too good of a job when writing the piece and made things too believable. Hopefully, no harm was done. Certainly none was intended. --kurt I was in the middle of trying to contrive some aprils fool stunt to pull at work prior to reading this and being in the mood to pull something this was aperent to be a joke. If I had read that slackware were to go rpm I would or might have taken the bate, but gentoo? not a chance. Never the less, very nicely done. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Evolution -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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There are some ebuilds using the rpm tools (Realone... etc), maybe they get confused by this fact. Ted Ozolins wrote: On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 08:30, Graham, Steve wrote: Just as a follow up to all this, yes, it's a joke. Yes, we hooked an amazine number of people and yes, I enjoyed every minute of it. :) Quite honestly, I'm surprised that so many people believed it. To me, the notion that Gentoo would dump ebuilds in favor of RPMs is so far from the realm of possibility as to be absurd. Obviously, some folks didn't find it quite so impossible. :) I've received some feedback that perhaps I did too good of a job when writing the piece and made things too believable. Hopefully, no harm was done. Certainly none was intended. --kurt I was in the middle of trying to contrive some aprils fool stunt to pull at work prior to reading this and being in the mood to pull something this was aperent to be a joke. If I had read that slackware were to go rpm I would or might have taken the bate, but gentoo? not a chance. Never the less, very nicely done. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Kurt Lieber wrote: Quite honestly, I'm surprised that so many people believed it. Maybe I've been around too long (remember Kremvax?), but last week's announcement that GWN would be a day late due to scheduled server maintenance was parsed as an excuse to have an April 1st GWN, so something of that ilk was very much expected. It was still sufficiently over-the-top that it was a good thing I wasn't drinking any coffee at the time. -- Anthony de Boer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:07:03 -0500 Kurt Lieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 08:19:15PM -0500 or thereabouts, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Just as a follow up to all this, yes, it's a joke. Yes, we hooked an amazine number of people and yes, I enjoyed every minute of it. :) Quite honestly, I'm surprised that so many people believed it. To me, the notion that Gentoo would dump ebuilds in favor of RPMs is so far from the realm of possibility as to be absurd. Obviously, some folks didn't find it quite so impossible. :) I've received some feedback that perhaps I did too good of a job when writing the piece and made things too believable. Hopefully, no harm was done. Certainly none was intended. --kurt Kurt, That's the time time I will believe that the newsletter will be delayed because of maintenance. ;) el lodger -- Powered by GENTOO LINUX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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begin quote On 31 Mar 2003 20:19:15 -0500 Mike Atamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Mike Atamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually the moving to rpm isnt too far-fetched... *cough* ebuild *.ebuild rpm (I'm not sure if that target works currently though, I know it once did) , then move the portage text-stored backend to rpm, by making emerge interface with rpm at install time instead of using its own format... and whamm, you have a rpm based gentoo system with the true flexibility of portage. Its actually quite an interesting idea, since making it this way would indeed make the system more lsb-compliant, (bah!. I hear you say) and would also add a few other nice things to the system (What I hear you ask, give me a moment) one of theese would be the ability to generate rpm binaries from portage, and also by using this, you can easily adapt apt-rpm to fetch from a gentoo built binary tree (with a default set of use flags) and we'd have our own flexible system, but with the ability to pre-create packages. It would also be a technical goodness since it would provide an integrity-check for how portage works, ie, make sure that there are no loose ends in packaging, that just works because of how its done currently. (this is actually quite a common problem in code, unfortunately) of course, that it could be done, doesnt mean that it should be done, nor that it will be done. :) Small side points: rpm dependency hell: wouldnt really be an issue since all deps are correct in portage, and portage would still be used to trace theese. Xlibs in default system.. no thanks. well, This should be a healthy douche of gasoline on the embers of the rpm/april1st joke. //Spider -- matches, we need matches! -nedit is better than vim and emacs! -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] april fools?
Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Mike Atamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Hadn't thought of that but I hope it's a joke - just like LSB is a joke. Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Mike Atamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Tuesday 01 April 2003 03:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. the first 30 seconds I was really shocked.. but then I saw the watch..3am 1.April everything will be fine ;o) Glück Auf, Volker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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well if it goes through debian or redhat might move back to my main machine. On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 20:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 01 April 2003 03:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. the first 30 seconds I was really shocked.. but then I saw the watch..3am 1.April everything will be fine ;o) Glück Auf, Volker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Tuesday 01 April 2003 11:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. clearly an april fools, but a good one nonetheless :) -- luke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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man, i was already getting seriously worried... thank god for april fools! have a fun day, greg --On 31.03.2003 20:28 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think they got us G. well if it goes through debian or redhat might move back to my main machine. On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 20:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 01 April 2003 03:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. the first 30 seconds I was really shocked.. but then I saw the watch..3am 1.April everything will be fine ;o) Glück Auf, Volker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Got a bunch of us. But it shows how much we like ebuilds and how good they are. Before I figured it out I was having cold chills and spasms just thinking about RPM - aggghH! On Tuesday 01 April 2003 11:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. clearly an april fools, but a good one nonetheless :) -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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I nearly had a heart attack, until I saw the date. I love Gentoo so much (honestly). To think of all those changes, would be enough for me to crawl up in a fetal position and hope for death. If any GWN people are reading this, very well done :) -Jon On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 20:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Mike Atamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:51:34 +0100 Alex Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so glad you said that, I was about to go to bed and have nightmares of losing some of Gentoo's best features. I was completely taken in, but only for a couple of minutes... honest. I thought I would have heard rumours about it on here if it had any truth to it... Happy April Fools' Day everyone Alex I'm glad I read all these April Fool letter before I read the newsletter. WHEW!! el lodger -- Powered by GENTOO LINUX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Alex Walker wrote: I'm so glad you said that, I was about to go to bed and have nightmares of losing some of Gentoo's best features. I was completely taken in, but only for a couple of minutes... honest. Really, this was a very good joke :) But guys, if you think about that a little .. why the hell would gentoo change this brilliant ebuild system into an rpm nightmare for them and for us? give me just one serious reason and if it stands, you might have one wish ... anything ;))) btw, this was just the first today, i wonder what other sites, like slashdot will come up. i think it's a very tough race between the sites, that who is the most creative in the april 1 contest :) take care, tybalt -- András Tarsoly [EMAIL PROTECTED] xpander media Public key for [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) mQGiBD6HfLIRBADQ1g5avCKODrXDlBaY9TdRVsPrKJO4lk71Q0VitE0I2t46ZKDo EfLDqKcq81klMnTbNvqKJ75nJfQ+yVK1iM4z5mZtnRaF11opAuGn5AeM58wURFcV GkmF6wdoJAoDkxVq6R2LeCG8yCVPgeRLeitBICxdq+udEsC/Z/XwcOFXPwCg/n9w X1q+i/mxaBfsU5+7++wBpRkD/jlgFeKfTUndf++m64Xey4mgs8WbBTOQoCDaGX/H 8x/0vUK5gsBi/BPq0JtHJ8cWIDAdZaIm+p7Pk2+tiDyHvw/1cviBtLCHoCQ72kMp Fyt8//8XaVPfg71sSgeJIkhCS2ZCQreN+o7hy4OmlM/Lv+VaJfE5MgEy932X1Pq5 tR4lBAC1B3BKaIzPHYtOf8v1aa77DAA7gnblmwsWCnMCjG1M2JAxNeySXUJgIko1 s+HhWgS4vTR7at8JZUaZTKM7a4hqWqTJeMmpJWkcqjFHz5LjGanb4l7VN8Cxvwvu rOauJXbjfW85covTkrkSnBcWpMDAdSkNgf+HK/abVhUDeJ35o7QvVGFyc29seSBB bmRyYXMgKG5vIHBhc3N3b3JkKSA8dHliYWx0QGdyb292ZS5odT6IWQQTEQIAGQUC Pod8sgQLBwMCAxUCAwMWAgECHgECF4AACgkQlCzDaabBXBU9cACfYrqCK9SI6BBQ QHMTywAgt8iokIYAn13ZSnN1o2oU+BakebCMd+TN5l5guQENBD6HfLMQBACYxgof AduhIx4q0CrWO3lPffZwQi7gnST0spOGnNEx9REELDP2sgEzMZKlJcQNp3mwNliY +jBO9mZ4EO9mr0HueLj45KLW818gmPhXrCHET8953wrIYrMRt3hQJNkP6jqT5+jr o3A9QEMtNdfr7rYcaopDnzlJAruPcDMrbD91zwADBQP/V5kvjt1uDba4WvnFVKZT eg+EyKbLkxea+2HuRPuLrWojopdyiEWudFMUOZ35i656Yri8pyMYj0548D6Sl5DV 7BRuwAf2KTer4g3VbkgdvEMpzcJV2XfbiV6iturDx/sb7wUSO+wP5F4cZiqvAEnh NUvweGcyjIvEOg2o5hvW4AuIRgQYEQIABgUCPod8swAKCRCULMNppsFcFcKjAJ4v r0ZdaNK9IAO0VcnJXl4pgJEYcwCg4a5FRR8M46BVI7syTyhL99Zegvc= =TLZX -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
Jon \GenKiller\ Gaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: I nearly had a heart attack, until I saw the date. I love Gentoo so much (honestly). To think of all those changes, would be enough for me to crawl up in a fetal position and hope for death. If any GWN people are reading this, very well done :) On the other hand, it would have been nice if the german police had really switched to Gentoo-ARM-based PDA:s. /Rasmus Wiman http://rasmus.wiman.org http://dagbok.wiman.org I program my home computer Beam myself into the future -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Monday 31 March 2003 10:27 pm, gregor battig wrote: man, i was already getting seriously worried... You're not the only one ;-) At first I said: WHAT!? RPM!? Regards, Norberto pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 06:14:27PM -0800, el lodger wrote: On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:51:34 +0100 Alex Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so glad you said that, I was about to go to bed and have nightmares of losing some of Gentoo's best features. I was completely taken in, but only for a couple of minutes... honest. I thought I would have heard rumours about it on here if it had any truth to it... Happy April Fools' Day everyone Alex I'm glad I read all these April Fool letter before I read the newsletter. WHEW!! el lodger Have they been embellishing it or something? I fail to see how anyone could read it and not instantly know that it is a joke. Some of the text is hysterical! Case in point: Additionally, because of LSB's required library support, the xfree86 package will move to become part of the base Gentoo Linux system, rather than an optional addition. -- Richard Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Yes, but when you are suffering from lack of sleep G. On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 06:14:27PM -0800, el lodger wrote: On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:51:34 +0100 Have they been embellishing it or something? I fail to see how anyone could read it and not instantly know that it is a joke. Some of the text is hysterical! Case in point: Additionally, because of LSB's required library support, the xfree86 package will move to become part of the base Gentoo Linux system, rather than an optional addition. -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Yeah, you need a machete to cut through the sarcasm. But then again I read the posts here before I read the newsletter, so I already had some idea that it was a joke before I read it. Jason On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 23:07, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Yes, but when you are suffering from lack of sleep G. On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 06:14:27PM -0800, el lodger wrote: On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:51:34 +0100 Have they been embellishing it or something? I fail to see how anyone could read it and not instantly know that it is a joke. Some of the text is hysterical! Case in point: Additionally, because of LSB's required library support, the xfree86 package will move to become part of the base Gentoo Linux system, rather than an optional addition. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 19:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Slashdot has picked it up now (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/01/0234215). Good job, Kurt! -- Alec Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key DFB366F2 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
