Re: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 04 November 2003 15:45, Joshua Banks wrote: Hello, I don't know what happened but at some point my KDE desktop completely froze-up. Couldn't move the mouse but I could still ALT+Tab through programs running at the bottom of the screen. Luckily I had a Console session open and the only thing that I knew how to do was to do a shutdown -ah now I powered back up and everything was fine. What is the best way to get out of stuck KDE desktop session and restart KDE when something in Gentoo freezes the desktop like that? I've had something similar happen to me before. It was a quite long running bug in CVS whereby if I hit 'v' in kmail to see the message source and closed the window kwin/kded would eat up all system resources. To fix it, get a console by whatever means and kill kded and kwin, they will show in a ps listing as 'kdeinit: kwin' and 'kdeinit: kded'. Then, if your not at Konsole in the frozen session, 'export DISPLAY=:0' (or whatever X display the frozen kde session is on) and run 'kdeinit kded' 'kdeinit kwin' one will attempt to start the other I think. As well which logs would tell me possibly why this happened? dmesg, or /var/log/messages *might*, but I doubt it. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/p8xdInuLMrk7bIwRAsdQAJ41epbCtuwboJ9IlWd0MPKbmL+X9wCePpJu 2/JXzMOYnUcGELil6LtKKFU= =aL+6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..
What is the best way to get out of stuck KDE desktop session and restart KDE when something in Gentoo freezes the desktop like that? Did you try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace? Cheers! Chris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..
--- Chris Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the best way to get out of stuck KDE desktop session and restart KDE when something in Gentoo freezes the desktop like that? Did you try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace? Thanks for the reply Mike and Chris. To funny. As I was logged-in via dialup reading Chris's response, I hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. This brought me back to what looked like the tail end of my bootup sequence just before KDM starts when Gentoo first starts up, but had a text login at the very bottom of the screen. It stayed like that for about maybe 5 seconds and then switched to the KDM login box. When I logged back in I noticed that the modem never disconnected but nothing was running in the bottom of the desktop. So I'm assuming that all of the browser sessions along with KPPP were still running even know nothing appeared to be running visually at the bottom of the desktop. This allows me to logback in again but do I need to go and kill the prior running processes first? Sorry.. I've never done this before so this is a little new. I guess I got my homework cut out for me today, reading wise. Heh.. :P Thanks, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..
--- Chris Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the best way to get out of stuck KDE desktop session and restart KDE when something in Gentoo freezes the desktop like that? Did you try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace? Thanks for the reply Mike and Chris. To funny. As I was logged-in via dialup reading Chris's response, I hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. This brought me back to what looked like the tail end of my bootup sequence just before KDM starts when Gentoo first starts up, but had a text login at the very bottom of the screen. It stayed like that for about maybe 5 seconds and then switched to the KDM login box. When I logged back in I noticed that the modem never disconnected but nothing was running in the bottom of the desktop. Josh, I've had this happen also. Try changing the /etc/inittab default runlevel to 3 instead of 5. This takes you to a console when boot up instead of kdm. You log in and type startx and you're in KDE (or whatever you are using.) Setup like this, when I've had to Alt-Ctl-Backspace out of X it's always stayed at the console. You could also try Alt-Ctrl-F2 (or F3-F6) and go to a different console. From their you can run top and kill some runaway process, or KDE itself if you need to. - Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..
This allows me to logback in again but do I need to go and kill the prior running processes first? Sorry.. I've never done this before so this is a little new. I guess I got my homework cut out for me today, reading wise. Heh.. :P Joshua, I'm not absolutely certain but I think KPPP is a front-end to a background process. Hence when you exit X (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace), the PPP backend process continues to run. Cheers! Chris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..
Hi
As far as I'm aware this is not true (since runlevels 3,4 and 5 are all
the same in gentoo). The only way to avoid booting into kdm is to either
change the value of DISPLAYMANAGER in /etc/rc.conf to something else
(gdm or xdm or ome of the new e managers) or to remove xdm from the
default runlevel
rc-update del xdm default
as root
changing the runlevel from 5 to 3 only stops X loading on RedHat and
RedHat derived linux distros.
Have Fun,
Joel.
Try changing the /etc/inittab default runlevel to 3 instead of 5.
This takes you to a console when boot up instead of kdm.
You log in and type startx and you're in KDE (or whatever you are using.)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..
Thanks everyone. You've all been very helpfull. Much appreciated. I've gotten closer to figuring out what the problem is caused by I think. I didn't even think about but I just installed a Belkin OmniCube 2port ps/2 switch thee other day so that I could share my big monitor between my win2k box and gentoo. Well I just had win2k freeze completely. No recovering from that no matter what I try. Atleast gentoo allows me to recover. So it looks as though this probably has to do with the new switch. Yee-Haw.. using linux is like being a super computer detective. Now I have something new to diagnose and figure out today. Geesh...and to think the day was going be boring. Heh.. never with linux. :D Woo-hoo Thanks again, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..
Hi As far as I'm aware this is not true (since runlevels 3,4 and 5 are all the same in gentoo). The only way to avoid booting into kdm is to either change the value of DISPLAYMANAGER in /etc/rc.conf to something else (gdm or xdm or ome of the new e managers) or to remove xdm from the default runlevel rc-update del xdm default as root changing the runlevel from 5 to 3 only stops X loading on RedHat and RedHat derived linux distros. Have Fun, Joel. Joel, You may well be right. I'm no guru about this stuff, and I don't know much about the specifics of Gentoo runlevels. I don't emerge KDE or Gnome under any circumstances on my machines, and I'm not even sure if I have kdm. (Boy, I'm dumb!) ;-) My Gentoo machines get built with just a text type login and happily run nothing but fluxbox for X. This strategy works for me on my Gentoo machines, and works on my Redhat machines where 3, 4 5 are a bit different. Maybe I'm speaking out of school here. Sorry if I've not contributed. Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..
--- Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi As far as I'm aware this is not true (since runlevels 3,4 and 5 are all the same in gentoo). The only way to avoid booting into kdm is to either change the value of DISPLAYMANAGER in /etc/rc.conf to something else (gdm or xdm or ome of the new e managers) or to remove xdm from the default runlevel rc-update del xdm default as root changing the runlevel from 5 to 3 only stops X loading on RedHat and RedHat derived linux distros. Have Fun, Joel. Joel, You may well be right. I'm no guru about this stuff, and I don't know much about the specifics of Gentoo runlevels. I don't emerge KDE or Gnome under any circumstances on my machines, and I'm not even sure if I have kdm. (Boy, I'm dumb!) ;-) My Gentoo machines get built with just a text type login and happily run nothing but fluxbox for X. This strategy works for me on my Gentoo machines, and works on my Redhat machines where 3, 4 5 are a bit different. Maybe I'm speaking out of school here. Sorry if I've not contributed. No worries Mark. I knew what your were getting at and I new it didn't apply to my situation specifically for KDE. I run fluxbox on 2 of my other machines. The one with the problem is the womans pc and she has to have her nice kool gui or she's lost. Thanks anyways, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
