Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux 1.4 General Install Questions

2003-08-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 15:51, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote:
 I just purchased a copy of Gentoo Linux 1.4 to replace Red Hat 9.0.  I have
 been using Linux off and on for a year now but the Red Hat distro could not
 convince me to switch over to Linux full time.  Thus, I ran Windows and I
 used SSH secure shell to access my Unix accounts.
 
 First question.  My notebook has a duel boot partition running both Windows
 XP Pro and Red Hat Linux 9.0.  Will I be able to install Gentoo right over
 the Red Hat partition?  Honestly, I never plan to use Red Hat again.  I will
 definately not miss their surveys to keep my membership current.

If you know the partition numbers then you can install right over the
top of them. You may also blow them away and make new partitions out of
the same areas. Both will work fine.
 
 Second question which I am sure many of you asked.  From which tarball stage
 should I install?  During the demo at Indiana University, they started with
 stage3 since they told us it takes a couple of days of compiling before you
 can get a working systems with Gentoo.  Is still still the norm for 1.4?  I
 will be installing Gentoo on a Dell Inspirion 8100 notebook with a Pentium
 III 1 GHz Processor with 512 megs of RAM.  Which stage did most of you start
 from?

There was just a poll on this. Most people who will answer this question
said they start from Stage 1. I start from stage 3 as I'm a newbie also.

One reasonable point was that if you are not absolutely sure what USE
flogs you are going to set up, then you might as well start from Stage
3, later set up your USE flags, and over time most everything will get
rebuilt anyway.

My vote is for stage 3, and start using the box sooner.

 
 I have a feeling I will be asking more questions once my CDs arrive.
 
 Any responses will be greatly appreciated,
 
 Kevin Miller, Jr., MPA,
 Comparative  Intl. Affairs, Information Systems, and Nonprofit Management,
 School of Public and Environmental Affairs,
 Indiana University-Bloomington,
 E-Civil Society.org - www.e-civilsociety.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux 1.4 General Install Questions

2003-08-26 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 25 August 2003 23:51, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote:
 I just purchased a copy of Gentoo Linux 1.4 to replace Red Hat 9.0.  I have
 been using Linux off and on for a year now but the Red Hat distro could not
 convince me to switch over to Linux full time.  Thus, I ran Windows and I
 used SSH secure shell to access my Unix accounts.

Welcome, and congratulations on your excellent decision :)

 First question.  My notebook has a duel boot partition running both Windows
 XP Pro and Red Hat Linux 9.0.  Will I be able to install Gentoo right over
 the Red Hat partition?  Honestly, I never plan to use Red Hat again.  I
 will definately not miss their surveys to keep my membership current.

Yup. I haven't read the install docs in a long time, but the partition layout 
described are purely a suggestion. If you only have a single partition that 
will do nicely. I believe there is some special code to handle the automatic 
mounting of /boot for special cases, but I wouldn't worry too much if you 
don't have a /boot (my laptop now , and when I can be arsed desktop and 2 
servers, mount /boot ReadOnly).

 Second question which I am sure many of you asked.  From which tarball
 stage should I install?  During the demo at Indiana University, they
 started with stage3 since they told us it takes a couple of days of
 compiling before you can get a working systems with Gentoo.  Is still still
 the norm for 1.4?  I will be installing Gentoo on a Dell Inspirion 8100
 notebook with a Pentium III 1 GHz Processor with 512 megs of RAM.  Which
 stage did most of you start from?

I'm a stage 1 guy, have been since my very first installation. Depends on how 
comfortable with linux you are, and how much bandwidth and time you have. 
Then there is the geekiness/masochist aspect :o)

 I have a feeling I will be asking more questions once my CDs arrive.

Ask away, there are plenty more people here, many of whom I'm sure know a lot 
more than I.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux 1.4 General Install Questions

2003-08-26 Thread gabriel
On August 25, 2003 06:51 pm, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote:
 I just purchased a copy of Gentoo Linux 1.4 to replace Red Hat 9.0.  I have
 been using Linux off and on for a year now but the Red Hat distro could not
 convince me to switch over to Linux full time.  Thus, I ran Windows and I
 used SSH secure shell to access my Unix accounts.

welcome to gentoo ;-)

 First question.  My notebook has a duel boot partition running both Windows
 XP Pro and Red Hat Linux 9.0.  Will I be able to install Gentoo right over
 the Red Hat partition?  Honestly, I never plan to use Red Hat again.  I
 will definately not miss their surveys to keep my membership current.

sure you can.  just skip the fdisk step in the install howto and go right to 
creating a filesytem on the already existing partitions...  you may want to 
re-create your partition table though, if only for the learning experience.

 Second question which I am sure many of you asked.  From which tarball
 stage should I install?  During the demo at Indiana University, they
 started with stage3 since they told us it takes a couple of days of
 compiling before you can get a working systems with Gentoo.  Is still still
 the norm for 1.4?  I will be installing Gentoo on a Dell Inspirion 8100
 notebook with a Pentium III 1 GHz Processor with 512 megs of RAM.  Which
 stage did most of you start from?

if you're a newbie, start from stage 1.  the docs are so good, that while the 
task is daunting, it's VERY informative.  install your first gentoo box from 
stage one and you'll learn more about linux in 3 days than you did in two 
years with redhat.

 I have a feeling I will be asking more questions once my CDs arrive.

it's all good.  some of us are newbies, and others are veterans...  whatever 
your question, it's likely someone here can help.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux 1.4 General Install Questions

2003-08-26 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:09:06 +0100
Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  Second question which I am sure many of you asked.  From which
  tarball stage should I install?  During the demo at Indiana
  University, they started with stage3 since they told us it takes a
  couple of days of compiling before you can get a working systems
  with Gentoo.  Is still still the norm for 1.4?  
 
 I'm a stage 1 guy, have been since my very first installation. Depends
 on how comfortable with linux you are, and how much bandwidth and time
 you have. Then there is the geekiness/masochist aspect :o)
 

It really makes no difference; you'll only do an install once, unlike
RedHat.  After a years worth of incremental updates you'll be in the
same shape whether starting from Stage 1 or 3.  Yes, it will take a
couple of days starting from Stage 1.  I started from Stage 1 about 2
years ago.  I might do Stage 3 today now that it is available.

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Collins Richey - Denver Area
if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the 
worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux 1.4 General Install Questions

2003-08-26 Thread Kevin Miller, Jr.
Wow, I am impressed at the feedback.  Thanks a lot for your help.  I will
definitely take all your advice into consideration.  Just wish my CD would
arrive sooner:)

Kevin
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 Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



   Second question which I am sure many of you asked.  From which
   tarball stage should I install?  During the demo at Indiana
   University, they started with stage3 since they told us it takes a
   couple of days of compiling before you can get a working systems
   with Gentoo.  Is still still the norm for 1.4?
 
  I'm a stage 1 guy, have been since my very first installation. Depends
  on how comfortable with linux you are, and how much bandwidth and time
  you have. Then there is the geekiness/masochist aspect :o)
 

 It really makes no difference; you'll only do an install once, unlike
 RedHat.  After a years worth of incremental updates you'll be in the
 same shape whether starting from Stage 1 or 3.  Yes, it will take a
 couple of days starting from Stage 1.  I started from Stage 1 about 2
 years ago.  I might do Stage 3 today now that it is available.

 -- 
 Collins Richey - Denver Area
 if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the
 worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.



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