Re: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine

2003-11-26 Thread Spider
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:21:52 +0200
Adrian Pirciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You could also check out spiders new project
  http://chinstrap.alternating.net/ I would guess this would be a god
  send for those with a slower machine.
 
 Thanks. Too bad I don't like the compiling flags but it's a good 
 start can't please them all.. 

*laughs*  I'm actually one to prefer better sane over sazzy in cases
like this.  in fact , at home I'm even stricter with CFLAGS. (-O2 no
omit-frame-pointer and no stripping, the other machines run Chinstrap
right off.)

//Spider
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Re: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine

2003-11-26 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 26 November 2003 19:34, Spider wrote:
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 On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:21:52 +0200

 Adrian Pirciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   You could also check out spiders new project
   http://chinstrap.alternating.net/ I would guess this would be a god
   send for those with a slower machine.
 
  Thanks. Too bad I don't like the compiling flags but it's a good
  start can't please them all..

 *laughs*  I'm actually one to prefer "better sane over sazzy" in cases
 like this.  in fact , at home I'm even stricter with CFLAGS. (-O2 no
 omit-frame-pointer and no stripping, the other machines run Chinstrap
 right off.)

How does stripping impact performance, anyway? It's really only used for 
debugging right? That should just make slightly smaller executables.

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine

2003-11-26 Thread Spider
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:24:50 +0900
Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  *laughs*  I'm actually one to prefer better sane over sazzy in
  cases like this.  in fact , at home I'm even stricter with
  CFLAGS.(-O2 no omit-frame-pointer and no stripping, the other
  machines run Chinstrap right off.)
 
 How does stripping impact performance, anyway? It's really only used
 for debugging right? That should just make slightly smaller
 executables.

except for diskspace, it doesnt affect preformance. the symbols aren't
loaded into RAM when executing the files, so thats not an issue.

But I like being able to debug things. -fomit-frame-pointer is a nice
performance giver in x86, but as it kills debugging its just as well to
strip the binaries.

//Spider



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Re: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine

2003-11-25 Thread Stroller
On Nov 25, 2003, at 11:12 pm, Adrian Pirciu wrote:
I have a pretty slow computer, p3/700, and i can use a P4 to compile
my packages. Given that on the P4 there's gentoo installed, how can I
compile the packages I need on the P4 then merge them on my gentoo on
P3 ? There must an easy way to do this.
From `man emerge`:

   --buildpkgonly (-B)
  Creates binary packages for all ebuilds processed without 
 actu-
  ally  merging the packages.  This comes with the caveat 
that all
  build time dependencies must already be emerged on the 
system.

   --usepkg (-k)
  Tells  emerge  to use binary packages (from $PKGDIR) if 
they are
  available, thus possibly avoiding some time-consuming  
compiles.
  This   option   is  useful  for  CD  installs;  you  can  
export
  PKGDIR=/mnt/cdrom/packages and then  use  this  option  
to  have
  emerge  pull  binary  packages from the CD in order to 
satisfy
  dependencies.

HTH,

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine

2003-11-25 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Adrian Pirciu --
 I have a pretty slow computer, p3/700, and i can use a P4 to compile
 my packages. Given that on the P4 there's gentoo installed, how can I
 compile the packages I need on the P4 then merge them on my gentoo on
 P3 ? There must an easy way to do this.

I would suggest you look at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] haim $ emerge search distcc
Searching...
[ Results for search key : distcc ]
[ Applications found : 2 ]

*  sec-policy/selinux-distcc
  Latest version available: 20030728
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 0 kB
  Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/
  Description: SELinux policy for distcc

*  sys-devel/distcc
  Latest version available: 2.9
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 231 kB
  Homepage:http://distcc.samba.org/
  Description: a program to distribute compilation of C code across 
several machines on a network

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Re: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine

2003-11-25 Thread Stroller
On Nov 25, 2003, at 11:46 pm, Adrian Pirciu wrote:

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Thanks. Now all I need is how to move the files from one computer to
another (that is, what directories should i move). The -B produces a
file or a directory of binaries ? What should I move ? To where ?
To find out for you, I emerged a small package, ran updatedb  used 
locate to find out what the result was. I'm a little unclear  as to why 
you were unable to do this yourself.

`emerge -B someapp` seems to put a tbz2 archive of the binaries in 
/usr/portage/packages/All/. Presumably you move that to the same 
directory on the slower machine  then `emerge -k someapp`. Don't 
forget to change you CFLAGS on the fast machine to reflect the 
processor of the slow machine.

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine

2003-11-25 Thread Adrian Pirciu
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Thanks a lot. I really didn't want you to bother too much, I just 
thought that somebody would know the answer right away, without 
trying. Right now I don't have access to a gentoo system and that's 
why I just wanted to know if this thing is possible and easy to do.

Thanks a lot, Stroller ! 

On Wednesday 26 November 2003 02:50, Stroller wrote:
 On Nov 25, 2003, at 11:46 pm, Adrian Pirciu wrote:
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  Thanks. Now all I need is how to move the files from one computer
  to another (that is, what directories should i move). The -B
  produces a file or a directory of binaries ? What should I move ?
  To where ?

 To find out for you, I emerged a small package, ran updatedb  used
 locate to find out what the result was. I'm a little unclear  as to
 why you were unable to do this yourself.

 `emerge -B someapp` seems to put a tbz2 archive of the binaries in
 /usr/portage/packages/All/. Presumably you move that to the same
 directory on the slower machine  then `emerge -k someapp`. Don't
 forget to change you CFLAGS on the fast machine to reflect the
 processor of the slow machine.

 Stroller.


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RE: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine

2003-11-25 Thread Allen Parker
If you send me off list your arch/CFLAGS for your slow machine, and what
packages you want, I'll be happy to emerge -B them for you and allow you to
download the packages via a high-speed mirror.

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 Thanks a lot. I really didn't want you to bother too much, I just
 thought that somebody would know the answer right away, without
 trying. Right now I don't have access to a gentoo system and that's
 why I just wanted to know if this thing is possible and easy to do.
 
 Thanks a lot, Stroller !
 
 On Wednesday 26 November 2003 02:50, Stroller wrote:
  On Nov 25, 2003, at 11:46 pm, Adrian Pirciu wrote:
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   Thanks. Now all I need is how to move the files from one computer
   to another (that is, what directories should i move). The -B
   produces a file or a directory of binaries ? What should I move ?
   To where ?
 
  To find out for you, I emerged a small package, ran updatedb  used
  locate to find out what the result was. I'm a little unclear  as to
  why you were unable to do this yourself.
 
  `emerge -B someapp` seems to put a tbz2 archive of the binaries in
  /usr/portage/packages/All/. Presumably you move that to the same
  directory on the slower machine  then `emerge -k someapp`. Don't
  forget to change you CFLAGS on the fast machine to reflect the
  processor of the slow machine.
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine

2003-11-25 Thread Allen Parker
They already have something like that, it's called GRP.

 -Original Message-
 From: Adrian Pirciu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine
 
 This is most unexpected. THANK YOU !! But frankly.. you woudn't want
 to see the list :) (and there are also the daily updates...) .
 Anyway, I'm thinking of doing something like a local gentoo binary
 packages repository me and my coworkers. I think it would be easier
 for everyone. We would have the packages we need compiled for all the
 architectures we have around...
 
 Really.. somebody who has a fast link and some good cpupower should do
 something like this. I really like(d) the compiling thing and all and
 gentoo works perfectly.. but things are starting to bother me since
 all day long, I just compile, compile, compile. This is not suitable
 for this computer, and, of course, everything slows down,
 productivity decreases, etc... Maybe I'm not the only one with this
 problem (thinking about the laptop dudes also) and this would be a
 great time saving thing. Of course, things might easily get out of
 hand, since we can make a version with use=+gtk2 and another with
 use=-gtk2 :)). Hope this doesn't happen. I think that 80% of the
 users share the same use flags.
 
 Does anybody see anything that would mark this binary library as
 ineffective and/or bad ?
 
 Thanks again for the idea Allen ...
 
 On Wednesday 26 November 2003 03:15, Allen Parker wrote:
  If you send me off list your arch/CFLAGS for your slow machine, and
  what packages you want, I'll be happy to emerge -B them for you and
  allow you to download the packages via a high-speed mirror.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Adrian Pirciu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:00 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on
   mine
  
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   Thanks a lot. I really didn't want you to bother too much, I just
   thought that somebody would know the answer right away, without
   trying. Right now I don't have access to a gentoo system and
   that's why I just wanted to know if this thing is possible and
   easy to do.
  
   Thanks a lot, Stroller !
  
   On Wednesday 26 November 2003 02:50, Stroller wrote:
On Nov 25, 2003, at 11:46 pm, Adrian Pirciu wrote:
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 Thanks. Now all I need is how to move the files from one
 computer to another (that is, what directories should i
 move). The -B produces a file or a directory of binaries ?
 What should I move ? To where ?
   
To find out for you, I emerged a small package, ran updatedb 
used locate to find out what the result was. I'm a little
unclear  as to why you were unable to do this yourself.
   
`emerge -B someapp` seems to put a tbz2 archive of the binaries
in /usr/portage/packages/All/. Presumably you move that to the
same directory on the slower machine  then `emerge -k
someapp`. Don't forget to change you CFLAGS on the fast machine
to reflect the processor of the slow machine.
   
Stroller.
   
   
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Re: [gentoo-user] compile on other computer, emerge on mine

2003-11-25 Thread Adrian Pirciu
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On Wednesday 26 November 2003 06:12, Ben wrote:
 Adrian Pirciu wrote:
 |Hi
 |
 |I have a pretty slow computer, p3/700, and i can use a P4 to
 | compile my packages. Given that on the P4 there's gentoo
 | installed, how can I compile the packages I need on the P4 then
 | merge them on my gentoo on P3 ? There must an easy way to do
 | this.
 |
 |Thank you all.
 |
 |adi
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 You could also check out spiders new project
 http://chinstrap.alternating.net/ I would guess this would be a god
 send for those with a slower machine.

Thanks. Too bad I don't like the compiling flags but it's a good 
start can't please them all.. 
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