Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare?
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:46:20 -0300, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: I agree with John. It is better to have a robust system (Gentoo) and run the bad one (Windows) on user space (via VMWare) so it can't do much damage. That's how I do it and it works well. I very rarely use VMWare for Windows, mainly for testing on different Linux distros. It runs virtually as fast as native hardware, apart from a slight reduction in disk speed from the virtual disks. VMWare 5 is very nice, and runs much better on amd64 than the 4.x series. As for comments on VMWare, it isn't free software and you need a licence key. Some purists don't like the fact that it isn't free. That's hardly an issue if he's going to run Windows with it :-O -- Neil Bothwick A friend of mine sent me a postcard with a satellite photo of the entire planet on it, and on the back he wrote, Wish you were here. pgpVCukTmVxzx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge emacs
Ah, the profile threw me. I was thinking profiles and not the emerge system I had done originally. I use nano so I guess I can unmerge it safely. But I'm still at a loss why the warning should come up. Emacs is not listed in base/packages nor linux-default/packages nor x86/packages and finally not in 2005.0/packages. I am correct in thinking these constitute system, right. It also is not in my make.conf nor is it pulled in by any other package (emerge info does not list it as a USE flag). Tony Willie Wong wrote: emacs provides virtual/editor The system profile is a set of programs that is necessary for your computer to boot and build other programs. One of this things you need to do to boot a computer is to edit the configuration files in /etc, for that you need an editor. The system profile (you can see what it brings in by emerge --emptytree --pretend system) requires something that satisfies virtual/editor, and by default I think gentoo uses nano. If you have another editor, like nano, or vim, or pico, then you should be fine to unmerge emacs. W On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 04:50:50PM -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I was going to unmerge emacs ( I don't use it ) but was warned: !!! Trying to unmerge package(s) in system profile. 'app-editors/emacs' !!! This could be damaging to your system. What is my system profile? Is it my default profile: /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0? and why would emacs be in there. I looked in the files in there and did not find anything significant. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Scroll Wheel
http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=xorg.conf+scroll +mouse On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 00:40 +, Ian K wrote: Hi There, I had to regenerate an X.org config, and I forgot what to add in order for it to take advantage of my Logitech optical mouse's scroll wheel. As I remember, I just had to add something to it in order for it to work. Any one know what I mean? Thanks! Ian -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
So holly, is arts absolutely necessary to get KDE system sounds? I installed KDE 3.4 without arts. Alsa does fine as does amarok, gaim, and several others _except_ KDE. I guess arts is the reason, huh? Tony Holly Bostick wrote: John Jolet schreef: On Saturday 20 August 2005 14:31, Christoph Eckert wrote: Use alsamixer in a console window to adjust the settings. Ensure master is open and PCM is unmuted and open. I have a question about that...using the in-kernel alsa drivers and I get sound fine with xmms under kde, but the system notification sounds are silent. I'm kinda mystified. If xmms plays, then your sound is obviously working. If KDE system sounds are not playing, there could be 3 reasons that I can think of: 1) arts (the kde sound server) is not enabled. You can check this in kcontrol=Sound and Multimedia=Sound System; is the checkbox for 'enable sound system' checked? Is the correct sound system selected in the 'Hardware' tab? It's not much use to tell KDE to pipe aRTs through ESD if you don't have ESD running) 2) system sounds are turned off. You can check this in kcontrol=Sound and Multimedia=System Notifications. Is the checkbox and drop-down menu to turn all sounds off perhaps enabled? Secondarily, try selecting an event that has a sound attached. Does the 'Play sound' checkbox become checked? If you test the sound using the little 'Play' button next to the filename, can you hear it? 3) KMix is set to override alsamixer settings on login, and it (KMix) is muted (KMix does not use or refer to the alsamixer settings, but rather its own. It's very annoying, and why I avoided it during my brief time using KDE). This can be fixed by running KMix and either unmuting the appropriate channels if muted, or setting KMix not to override the ALSA mixer settings on startup, or by setting KMix not to start at all at login. Hope this helps, Holly -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:48:14 +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: So holly, is arts absolutely necessary to get KDE system sounds? I installed KDE 3.4 without arts. Alsa does fine as does amarok, gaim, and several others _except_ KDE. I guess arts is the reason, huh? Yep. As long as a KDE application doesn't have an audio interface of its own, it uses arts for audio output. If arts isn't available, it will not be able to output sound. You can also configure KDE to use an external player for system sounds Control Centre - Sound Multimedia - System Notifications - Player Options -- Neil Bothwick There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't. pgptMLV5pvHCS.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] emerge glibc
Last night I did an: emerge --update --deep world Reviewing logs this morning I find in 3125-glibc-2.3.5-r1.log the following: QA Notice: /usr/lib/misc/glibc/pt_chown is setXid, dynamically linked and using lazy bindings. This combination is generally discouraged. Try: CFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now' emerge glibc I can see a couple of problems with this: 1.) Wouldn't that compile glibc without any optimization settings? So what I would rather do is merge the suggestion with my default CFLAGS. Resulting in: CFLAGS='-O3 -march=athlon-xp -Wl,-z,now' emerge glibc Does this seem reasonable? 2.) My impression of how portage works is that the next time glibc is updated it will compile with the default again. Is there some place to set this on a permanent basis? Tom Naujokas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DVD recorder recommendations
* On Aug 19 15:42, Sean Johnson (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote: I'm pretty stuck on Plextor drives. I've found them to all be very reliable, and will tend to read damaged disks that other drives choke on. Another strong recommendation for Plextor here. I've had my PX-712A for a while now and it's been fantastic - never a single problem with any type of disc. Definitely consider them. You can usually find them for around the same price as the others on newegg.com. Tom pgpu2gJBfDgfK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] About firefox
Alle 03:07, domenica 21 agosto 2005, Holly Bostick ha scritto: They're .xpi files, yes? The language pack should be. However, all the sites for the languages you're looking for don't seem to have language packs, just full installers although I can't read most of these languages well enough to be sure. But I couldn't find any such pack on the German localization site, for example. I did find one of the sp_SP page, though. I am aware that you weren't looking for Spain Spanish, but I had a hope of reading that, since the Lating American Spanish page had a MySQL error and I couldn't view the downloads. [...] If it doesn't, then you need to do the exact same thing, but after running Firefox as root. Most extensions install to ~/.mozilla/firefox/wherever (so the user may install them), but some install to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox (so only root can install them), and atm I don't remember which kind the language pack is. Of course, you could just do what I do and have root change the permissions of the main application plugins folder, so that a user may write to it, because otherwise it's a PITA, but that's just me. [...] Holly I found the italian package and I installed it as root, but firefox doesn't ask me if I want a global installation :-( that means that every user must install a language package; that's strange! But the question is yet here: why don't they do a link near to the localized installer to language package? Thanks a lot, Luigi -- Public key GPG(0x073A0960) on http://keyserver.linux.it/ pgpLs0MSSZQse.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare?
I too run VMWare 5 on XP (as well as a dual boot installation) and can confirm it runs at near native speeds. Be aware however that there is an issue with the clock on 2.4 series kernels - due to the changes made to run at 1000Hz, you will find that Gentoo's clock no longer keeps perfect time. This problem can be improved, but not completely solved, by (a) recompiling the kernel to run at a lower clock and (b) running the VMWare toolkit, which has a clock helper On 8/21/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:46:20 -0300, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: I agree with John. It is better to have a robust system (Gentoo) and run the bad one (Windows) on user space (via VMWare) so it can't do much damage. That's how I do it and it works well. I very rarely use VMWare for Windows, mainly for testing on different Linux distros. It runs virtually as fast as native hardware, apart from a slight reduction in disk speed from the virtual disks. VMWare 5 is very nice, and runs much better on amd64 than the 4.x series. As for comments on VMWare, it isn't free software and you need a licence key. Some purists don't like the fact that it isn't free. That's hardly an issue if he's going to run Windows with it :-O -- Neil Bothwick A friend of mine sent me a postcard with a satellite photo of the entire planet on it, and on the back he wrote, Wish you were here. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD recorder recommendations
On Friday 19 August 2005 21:42, Sean Johnson wrote: I'm pretty stuck on Plextor drives. I've found them to all be very reliable, and will tend to read damaged disks that other drives choke on. it has to, because all tests I read said, that Plextor burns a lot of errors onto the dvds... so they have to have a good error-correction, or they would not be able to read their own stuff. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ccache not working
From:: Chris Fairles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] ccache not working Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:51:00 -0400 I'm emerged it, and added it to FEATURES. emerge --info | grep FEATURES FEATURES=autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms strict You also need to: == # cd /var/tmp # chown portage:portage ccache # chmod 775 ccache # echo CCACHE_DIR=\/var/tmp/ccache\ /etc/env.d/99local # env-update source /etc/profile == -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] somebody said Headphones?
--- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unmuting master is always needed if you want any sound to come out! Makes sense but it worked before update world with only PCM unmuted. On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:09:19 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler wrote: Hello everybody, On account of my silent sound card Willie left a msg to unmute 'Headphones'. I'm wondering: is that hdware or software specific because I have no such option and I'm assuming this is the latest version having just updated everything. BTW when I unmuted 'Master' the problem went away :) -mw __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DVD recorder recommendations
* On Aug 21 15:37, Volker Armin Hemmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: it has to, because all tests I read said, that Plextor burns a lot of errors onto the dvds... so they have to have a good error-correction, or they would not be able to read their own stuff. Not sure I buy that. I've used my Plextor-burned discs in plenty of other computers and they haven't had any trouble reading them, either. They didn't earn their reputation for quality by making coasters. Tom pgpNaXMplEl6b.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] where to put mknod?
Hello everyone, Another post-emerge -u world wrinkle: before I can /usr/sbin/pon must now mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0. Where does one put this command? I didn't see any likely candidates in /etc/conf.d, /etc/init.d. -mw Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare?
The only issue with running WinXP inside a virtual environment is it becomes useless for gaming (making windows COMPLETELY useless) because VMWare doesn't have support for DirectX. On 8/21/05, Sandy McGuffog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too run VMWare 5 on XP (as well as a dual boot installation) and canconfirm it runs at near native speeds. Be aware however that there is an issue with the clock on 2.4 serieskernels - due to the changes made to run at 1000Hz, you will find thatGentoo's clock no longer keeps perfect time. This problem can be improved, but not completely solved, by (a) recompiling the kernel torun at a lower clock and (b) running the VMWare toolkit, which has aclock helperOn 8/21/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:46:20 -0300, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: I agree with John. It is better to have a robust system (Gentoo) and run the bad one (Windows) on user space (via VMWare) so it can't do much damage. That's how I do it and it works well. I very rarely use VMWare for Windows, mainly for testing on different Linux distros. It runs virtually as fast as native hardware, apart from a slight reduction in disk speed from the virtual disks. VMWare 5 is very nice, and runs much better on amd64 than the 4.x series. As for comments on VMWare, it isn't free software and you need a licence key. Some purists don't like the fact that it isn't free. That's hardly an issue if he's going to run Windows with it :-O -- Neil Bothwick A friend of mine sent me a postcard with a satellite photo of the entire planet on it, and on the back he wrote, Wish you were here.--[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] somebody said Headphones?
maxim wexler schreef: --- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unmuting master is always needed if you want any sound to come out! Makes sense but it worked before update world with only PCM unmuted. Some sound servers/mixers allow you to set master to use the PCM setting (by default they are separate, afaik). I think I've seen this in the XMMS settings and possibly elsewhere (either the KDE or GNOME sound server settings). So maybe that's the reason why you could have sound when only unmuting PCM (because PCM was being used for the master setting, so unmuting one effectively unmuted both). But in the default settings (where PCM and Master are two different settings), you would have to unmute Master for anything else to emit sound. Holly -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Permission problem, emerge jpeg-mmx-0.1.6-r1 as root
On Sunday 21 August 2005 14:26, Chris Fairles wrote: Unpacks and compiles fine. When it comes time to install, src_install runs make install-headers, from the Makefile this entails, install-headers: jconfig.h $(INSTALL_DATA) jconfig.h $(includedir)/jconfig.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jpeglib.h $(includedir)/jpeglib.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jmorecfg.h $(includedir)/jmorecfg.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jerror.h $(includedir)/jerror.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jinclude.h $(includedir)/jinclude.h where includedir = /usr/include/jpeg-mmx However, as root, I run emerge and i get this: /bin/install -c -m 644 jconfig.h /usr/include/jpeg-mmx/jconfig.h ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/include/jpeg-mmx/jconfig.h /bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/jpeg-mmx/jconfig.h': Permission denied However, as root I can certainly copy all the files manually to where they need to be. /usr drwxr-xr-x 179 root root 12816 Aug 21 08:09 include /var/tmp/portage/jpeg-mmx-0.1.6-r1/work/jpeg-mmx -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1258 Aug 21 08:21 jconfig.h See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103210 Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.12-gentoo-r6, Compiled #2 Wed Jul 27 18:03:14 CEST 2005 One 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 4308.99 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] About firefox
Alle 15:03, domenica 21 agosto 2005, Holly Bostick ha scritto: I found the italian package and I installed it as root, but firefox doesn't ask me if I want a global installation :-( I installed it as root too, but it doesn't ask me a global installation... I want to do a pair trying about it, it say it tomorrow, ok? [...] But the question is yet here: why don't they do a link near to the localized installer to language package? No idea. It is strange to have to trawl the Internet this way to find said language packs. Look it: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/l10n/mlp_otherproj.html Only few language have a language pack avaible (but they have all a localized installer...) Luigi -- Public key GPG(0x073A0960) on http://keyserver.linux.it/ pgpiW84WK6LtI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Permission problem, emerge jpeg-mmx-0.1.6-r1 as root
Chris Fairles wrote: Unpacks and compiles fine. When it comes time to install, src_install runs make install-headers, from the Makefile this entails, install-headers: jconfig.h $(INSTALL_DATA) jconfig.h $(includedir)/jconfig.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jpeglib.h $(includedir)/jpeglib.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jmorecfg.h $(includedir)/jmorecfg.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jerror.h $(includedir)/jerror.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jinclude.h $(includedir)/jinclude.h where includedir = /usr/include/jpeg-mmx However, as root, I run emerge and i get this: /bin/install -c -m 644 jconfig.h /usr/include/jpeg-mmx/jconfig.h ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/include/jpeg-mmx/jconfig.h /bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/jpeg-mmx/jconfig.h': Permission denied However, as root I can certainly copy all the files manually to where they need to be. /usr drwxr-xr-x 179 root root 12816 Aug 21 08:09 include /var/tmp/portage/jpeg-mmx-0.1.6-r1/work/jpeg-mmx -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1258 Aug 21 08:21 jconfig.h Hi, Look at BUG-103210 (b.g.o) this issue/problem is solved. Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Permission problem, emerge jpeg-mmx-0.1.6-r1 as root
On Sunday 21 August 2005 16:30, Rumen Yotov wrote: Chris Fairles wrote: Unpacks and compiles fine. When it comes time to install, src_install runs make install-headers, from the Makefile this entails, install-headers: jconfig.h $(INSTALL_DATA) jconfig.h $(includedir)/jconfig.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jpeglib.h $(includedir)/jpeglib.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jmorecfg.h $(includedir)/jmorecfg.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jerror.h $(includedir)/jerror.h $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/jinclude.h $(includedir)/jinclude.h where includedir = /usr/include/jpeg-mmx However, as root, I run emerge and i get this: /bin/install -c -m 644 jconfig.h /usr/include/jpeg-mmx/jconfig.h ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/include/jpeg-mmx/jconfig.h /bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/jpeg-mmx/jconfig.h': Permission denied However, as root I can certainly copy all the files manually to where they need to be. /usr drwxr-xr-x 179 root root 12816 Aug 21 08:09 include /var/tmp/portage/jpeg-mmx-0.1.6-r1/work/jpeg-mmx -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1258 Aug 21 08:21 jconfig.h Hi, Look at BUG-103210 (b.g.o) this issue/problem is solved. Rumen Where is the new ebuild then, I thought bugs weren't fixed until the new ebuild was in the tree? i think we need some QA around this ebuild, it seems to be always badly written. -- Tony Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge glibc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rumen Yotov wrote: Hi, First thing IMHO QA-notices are for devs, rarely for users so ignore it if no error so far. The CFLAGS you *may* put on the command-line are added to those in /etc/make.conf, so no need to repeat all. Think the using -03 in your USE-flags isn't a good idea (use -02 instead) remember that with -03 any reports to Bugzilla are like INVALID (devs will suggest you use a more sane flags first). HTH. Rumen - -O3 isn't that insane... I don't think that reports using -O3 are marked invalid (someone correct me?) Anyway, -O2 is sometime actually /better/ than -O3, too. I like -Os the best, at least on x86 (Its definitly not for amd64). - -- [Name ] :: [Matan I. Peled] [Location ] :: [Israel] [Public Key] :: [0xD6F42CA5] [Keyserver ] :: [keyserver.kjsl.com] encrypted/signed plain text preferred -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDCKPAA7Qvptb0LKURAuIDAJ4u1D8iLammR5mMPNW8HVSDrOsFAwCgg9q9 jQV0Fn9+tApebOVjgZUKjsI= =UBYF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where to put mknod?
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 07:39:05 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Another post-emerge -u world wrinkle: before I can | /usr/sbin/pon must now | | mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0. | | Where does one put this command? I didn't see any | likely candidates in /etc/conf.d, /etc/init.d. Don't do that. Instead, fix your udev rules. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgp6nKvS4T4wM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sysctl.conf settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Kintzios wrote: Also, when one logs spoofed packets, etc. using 'net/ipv4/conf/all/log_martians=1' where will these get logged? Will I need to create a new entry in syslog-ng? A new file in /var/log? Regards, It will go out with the rest of the kernel messages. syslog-ng is usually configured to send those to /var/log/messages, but in some cases (such as the hardened profile), will send those to /var/log/kern.log. - -- [Name ] :: [Matan I. Peled] [Location ] :: [Israel] [Public Key] :: [0xD6F42CA5] [Keyserver ] :: [keyserver.kjsl.com] encrypted/signed plain text preferred -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDCKhVA7Qvptb0LKURAtFaAKCOkBD9NshzgKqd/uFgRyTvwGfAnACfd1DZ 8qnFa0Mf+B8h/xQkz+MhXMI= =FBy4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] what's next
So far, I have a stage 2 install with 2.6.12-r9, wireless (ipw2100), intel modem (compiled in) and alsa (compiled in) on a dell inspiron 8600. All is functioning well. I have the basic system installed and updated on my laptop. Aside from the problem of the splash, everything seems to be well. I'm wondering what direction to go next? I'd like a good backup solution w/boot capability, but mondo is right out! It's too flaky at the moment. I'd like to get a backup of the system at this stage before adding a desktop environment, so that I have somewhere to go back to in case of a bork (either from software or operator error) I'm also thinking that some security would be in order here (anti-virus at least, but I've also read about others like port sentry, iptables, etc). As always, any input is greatly appreciated. John D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what's next
On Sunday August 21 2005 11:24 am, John Dangler wrote: I'd like a good backup solution w/boot capability, but mondo is right out! It's too flaky at the moment. I'd like to get a backup of the system at this stage before adding a desktop environment, so that I have somewhere to go back to in case of a bork (either from software or operator error) Personally, I prefer to backup at the partition level. Partimage works quite well for me. http://www.partimage.org/ I boot with SystemRescueCd (has partimage built in) to backup and/or restore my partions. http://www.sysresccd.org/ -jm -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD recorder recommendations
On 8/21/05, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 21 August 2005 16:35, Thomas Kirchner wrote: * On Aug 21 15:37, Volker Armin Hemmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: it has to, because all tests I read said, that Plextor burns a lot of errors onto the dvds... so they have to have a good error-correction, or they would not be able to read their own stuff. Not sure I buy that. I've used my Plextor-burned discs in plenty of other computers and they haven't had any trouble reading them, either. They didn't earn their reputation for quality by making coasters. Tom I do not own a plextor, but I trust the c't magazine which did a lot of dvd-burner tests and Plextor is one of the burners which like to write fast, but with a lot of errors. Only because the dvdr does not make problems now, it does not mean, that it will not make problems in the future, when some scratches are accumulated. But... LG was much worse.. ;) Hmmm. While warnings about particular brands might be of some help, I would much prefer to see the make/model of comparably priced items that were rated good. I'm trying to buy, after all, not discard existing stuff. Nevertheless, this is helpful (I think) because I was starting to lean towards a Plextor PX-740A-BP OEM drive. Now I'll wait to see what others say. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] initrd and raid
List, I've got a Super Micro P4SCT+ that uses the Marvell SATA controller that Linux doesn't know out-of-the-box. There was the mv_sata module provided by ABit that I found, and it compiles and loads into my 2.6.12 kernel. I can see the drives and have made a raid out of them no problem. I'm currently booting off the Intel SATA in the machine from /dev/sda The other drives are /dev/sdb,c,d. OK, so what I want to do is this: Remove the current /dev/sda and bump the /dev/sdb,c,d each up by one and then boot of them. /dev/sdb1,c1,d1 are set as RAID0+hotspare and configured/grub-ed etc. What I can't do is get the initrd to work. I've added the module and can see when it boots that it finds those devices but then it looks like it cannot see my devices. I get a Kernel Panic not init found, then it says to try passing init= to the kernel. I don't understand that, what must I do? I'm using udev so perhaps when the kernel is booting it cannot see my devices in /dev ? Other google searches show that might be the case. One set of google results pointing to gentoo-user about udev and initrd said don't use initrd, build the module into the kernel. I can't do that with a 3rd party module can I? Here's the story about my install so far (incomplete) http://www.edoceo.com/liber/marvell-sata.php /djb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what's next
On 8/21/05, John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the basic system installed and updated on my laptop.Aside from the problem of the splash, everything seems to be well.I'm wondering what direction to go next? You're the boss... just lead the way.. I hope that's why you installed gentoo!! :) I'd like a good backup solution w/boot capability, but mondo is right out! It's too flaky at the moment.I'd like to get a backup of the system at this stage before adding a desktopenvironment, so that I have somewhere to go back to in case of a bork(either from software or operator error) Try SystemRescueCd. Is bootable and has tools that allows you to backup partitions. You can place you current partition in other place of you disk or even on a cd. I'm also thinking that some security would be in order here (anti-virus atleast, but I've also read about others like port sentry, iptables, etc). Well.. I'd advise you iptables. And that's all you need. You won't need anti-virus, though you can use it. I've used BitDefender some time ago.. Fernando.
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge emacs
Holly Bostick wrote: Anthony E. Caudel schreef: Ah, the profile threw me. I was thinking profiles and not the emerge system I had done originally. I use nano so I guess I can unmerge it safely. But I'm still at a loss why the warning should come up. Emacs is not listed in base/packages nor linux-default/packages nor x86/packages and finally not in 2005.0/packages. I am correct in thinking these constitute system, right. It also is not in my make.conf nor is it pulled in by any other package (emerge info does not list it as a USE flag). Tony Did you check /etc/portage/package.use? Afaik, USE flags listed there are not listed by emerge info, and that's the only other thing I can think of; emacs must have been installed as a explicit dependency of a particular system package (or sub-dependency of such). Nope, nothing relevant in package.use. Oh well, unmerged it and revdep-rebuild didn't complain so THWI. You could also explicitly set -emacs in /etc/make.conf and see what changes in an emerge -uaDNtv world (or system), which would not only tell you why emacs is involved in this (I, for example, don't have it at all, and I suppose our systems are basically similar), as well as orphaning the dependency, so you could clean it out safely with a depclean (or normally, without the warning). HTH, Holly -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare?
Well you can still run Photoshop. :-D -MikeOn 8/21/05, Greg Shikhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only issue with running WinXP inside a virtual environment is it becomes useless for gaming (making windows COMPLETELY useless) because VMWare doesn't have support for DirectX. On 8/21/05, Sandy McGuffog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too run VMWare 5 on XP (as well as a dual boot installation) and canconfirm it runs at near native speeds. Be aware however that there is an issue with the clock on 2.4 serieskernels - due to the changes made to run at 1000Hz, you will find thatGentoo's clock no longer keeps perfect time. This problem can be improved, but not completely solved, by (a) recompiling the kernel torun at a lower clock and (b) running the VMWare toolkit, which has aclock helperOn 8/21/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:46:20 -0300, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: I agree with John. It is better to have a robust system (Gentoo) and run the bad one (Windows) on user space (via VMWare) so it can't do much damage. That's how I do it and it works well. I very rarely use VMWare for Windows, mainly for testing on different Linux distros. It runs virtually as fast as native hardware, apart from a slight reduction in disk speed from the virtual disks. VMWare 5 is very nice, and runs much better on amd64 than the 4.x series. As for comments on VMWare, it isn't free software and you need a licence key. Some purists don't like the fact that it isn't free. That's hardly an issue if he's going to run Windows with it :-O -- Neil Bothwick A friend of mine sent me a postcard with a satellite photo of the entire planet on it, and on the back he wrote, Wish you were here.-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationLinux, because reboots are for installing hardware. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD recorder recommendations
On Sunday 21 August 2005 20:54, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On 8/21/05, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 21 August 2005 16:35, Thomas Kirchner wrote: * On Aug 21 15:37, Volker Armin Hemmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: it has to, because all tests I read said, that Plextor burns a lot of errors onto the dvds... so they have to have a good error-correction, or they would not be able to read their own stuff. Not sure I buy that. I've used my Plextor-burned discs in plenty of other computers and they haven't had any trouble reading them, either. They didn't earn their reputation for quality by making coasters. Tom I do not own a plextor, but I trust the c't magazine which did a lot of dvd-burner tests and Plextor is one of the burners which like to write fast, but with a lot of errors. Only because the dvdr does not make problems now, it does not mean, that it will not make problems in the future, when some scratches are accumulated. But... LG was much worse.. ;) Hmmm. While warnings about particular brands might be of some help, I would much prefer to see the make/model of comparably priced items that were rated good. I'm trying to buy, after all, not discard existing stuff. Nevertheless, this is helpful (I think) because I was starting to lean towards a Plextor PX-740A-BP OEM drive. Now I'll wait to see what others say. to be honest, none of the tested writers were perfect. Some had problems with -r, some with +r, some burned good at low speeds but badly on higher ones - and most of these tried to burn as fast as possible, resulting in high error counts. You should visit some websites dedicated to dvd(rw) tests, and/or read some good magazine - not ones, who are giving 'best products' awards and say ' good results on matsabanony (to make up a totally random name)' but don't say, that you cannot buy this blanks in 95% of the world and totally not say that this device sucks with every other brand, but magazines, that test about a wide range of blanks, and explain every bit about their testing, how they detectcount the errors, differences between the errors, how many errors are allowed to be within the specs, geometric errors of the blanks etc pp. Don't look at awards, look at the important fact: does this writer does it job well with the blanks you can buy around the corner? Does it a good job at the sppeds I want to use? Does it burn the type dvd-'standard', I want to use(-r, +r, -rw,+rw,dl,-ram)? How much do you want to pay? Friends are not always a good source.. only because they haven't discovered the hidden traps of accumulated errors, does not mean, that you won't, so read tests and decide for yourself - oh, and firmware updates are important too. Luckily there are almost always dostools availabe, not always from the vendor, but... After that, you'll find the perfect burner for you. It may not the perfect burner for someone else, but that is ok - everybody has his own needs. -ram people are pretty stuck to LG and are able to deal with it ;) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge emacs
In the future, if you have gentoolkit emerge you can run an `equery d packagename` to see what depends upon the package. I find that the easiest way to do things. -MikeOn 8/21/05, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holly Bostick wrote:Anthony E. Caudel schreef:Ah, the profile threw me. I was thinking profiles and not the emergesystem I had done originally. I use nano so I guess I can unmerge it safely.But I'm still at a losswhy the warning should come up.Emacs is not listed in base/packagesnor linux-default/packages nor x86/packages and finally not in 2005.0/packages.I am correct in thinking these constitute system,right.It also is not in my make.conf nor is it pulled in by any otherpackage (emerge info does not list it as a USE flag). TonyDid you check /etc/portage/package.use? Afaik, USE flags listed thereare not listed by emerge info, and that's the only other thing I canthink of; emacs must have been installed as a explicit dependency of a particular system package (or sub-dependency of such).Nope, nothing relevant in package.use.Oh well, unmerged it andrevdep-rebuild didn't complain so THWI.You could also explicitly set -emacs in /etc/make.conf and see what changes in an emerge -uaDNtv world (or system), which would not onlytell you why emacs is involved in this (I, for example, don't have it atall, and I suppose our systems are basically similar), as well as orphaning the dependency, so you could clean it out safely with adepclean (or normally, without the warning).HTH,Holly--Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin--[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list-- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationLinux, because reboots are for installing hardware.In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
[gentoo-user] trying to install faad2-2.0-r7 on my amd64 system
I am getting the following error when I try to upgrade to faad2-2.0-r7. I need the patch for amd64 to use aac files. Here is the error message: Problem in media-libs/faad2-2.0-r7 dependencies. Specific key requires an operator (media-libs/faad2-2.0-r7) (try adding an '=') exceptions How can I get around this? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:48:14 +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: So holly, is arts absolutely necessary to get KDE system sounds? I installed KDE 3.4 without arts. Alsa does fine as does amarok, gaim, and several others _except_ KDE. I guess arts is the reason, huh? Yep. As long as a KDE application doesn't have an audio interface of its own, it uses arts for audio output. If arts isn't available, it will not be able to output sound. You can also configure KDE to use an external player for system sounds Control Centre - Sound Multimedia - System Notifications - Player Options This didn't work for me. Tried both aplay and alsaplayer. Neither helped. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] trying to install faad2-2.0-r7 on my amd64 system
On Sunday 21 August 2005 20:53, Marianne Taylor wrote: I am getting the following error when I try to upgrade to faad2-2.0-r7. I need the patch for amd64 to use aac files. Here is the error message: Problem in media-libs/faad2-2.0-r7 dependencies. Specific key requires an operator (media-libs/faad2-2.0-r7) (try adding an '=') exceptions How can I get around this? As root Echo media-libs/faad2 ~am64 /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge faad2 This will (should) pick up the latest testing ebuild from portage. assuming you have synced recently. HTH -- Tony Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] trying to install faad2-2.0-r7 on my amd64 system
Marianne Taylor schreef: I am getting the following error when I try to upgrade to faad2-2.0-r7. I need the patch for amd64 to use aac files. Here is the error message: Problem in media-libs/faad2-2.0-r7 dependencies. Specific key requires an operator (media-libs/faad2-2.0-r7) (try adding an '=') exceptions How can I get around this? What is the command you're using to emerge the package? The error you're getting suggests that you tried something like emerge fadd2-2.0-r7 which is incorrect syntax (as the error says). If you, for some reason, need to emerge a specific version of a package, the correct syntax is emerge =cate-gory/package.name-and.revision In this case, it would be emerge =media-libs/faad2-2.0-r7 but normally you shouldn't need to do this. Is the package masked for your arch? or marked unstable for your arch, and you're running stable? Unmask the unstable version in /etc/portage/package.keywords, or unmask a masked version in /etc/portage/package.unmask (and possibly /etc/portage/package.keywords as well, if it's both hard masked and soft masked/unstable). The only time one usually needs to specify a particular version is if your arch has a later version that you for some reason can't use, and really need the earlier version (i.e., unmasking unstable was to give you 2.0.1, and you really had to have 2.0-r7, because that's the only version that some other program you need faad for would accept). HTH, Holly -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] initrd and raid
On Sunday 21 August 2005 20:29, David Busby wrote: List, I've got a Super Micro P4SCT+ that uses the Marvell SATA controller that Linux doesn't know out-of-the-box. There was the mv_sata module provided by ABit that I found, and it compiles and loads into my 2.6.12 kernel. I can see the drives and have made a raid out of them no problem. I'm currently booting off the Intel SATA in the machine from /dev/sda The other drives are /dev/sdb,c,d. OK, so what I want to do is this: Remove the current /dev/sda and bump the /dev/sdb,c,d each up by one and then boot of them. /dev/sdb1,c1,d1 are set as RAID0+hotspare and configured/grub-ed etc. What I can't do is get the initrd to work. I've added the module and can see when it boots that it finds those devices but then it looks like it cannot see my devices. I get a Kernel Panic not init found, then it says to try passing init= to the kernel. I don't understand that, what must I do? I'm using udev so perhaps when the kernel is booting it cannot see my devices in /dev ? I've got one of those controllers, on a Supermicro PCI card. I boot from other drives, so don't have any initrd stuff. I do still have a problem with it though. That problem is that once the module is loaded, it takes several seconds to actually find, and register those drives, before they are available for use. So long in fact that if I load it, then 3 raid modules automatically during start up, by the time mdadm gets run the drives still aren't there! I simple modified the modules init script to put a 1 second pause between each modprobe. Perhaps a similar pause after loading the module in your initrd would help. -- Mike Williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)
I noticed that partimage (0.6.4-r3) is available on portage, but SystemRescueCd (SystemRescueCd-x86-0.2.15) isn't. a) Have you had any problems getting these up and running? b) Have you noticed any collisions with adding packages to your gentoo install after these? (dependency / reverse dependency problems) Thanks for the input, I appreciate it! John D -Original Message- From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] what's next On Sunday August 21 2005 11:24 am, John Dangler wrote: I'd like a good backup solution w/boot capability, but mondo is right out! It's too flaky at the moment. I'd like to get a backup of the system at this stage before adding a desktop environment, so that I have somewhere to go back to in case of a bork (either from software or operator error) Personally, I prefer to backup at the partition level. Partimage works quite well for me. http://www.partimage.org/ I boot with SystemRescueCd (has partimage built in) to backup and/or restore my partions. http://www.sysresccd.org/ -jm -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)
On Sunday August 21 2005 4:36 pm, John Dangler wrote: I noticed that partimage (0.6.4-r3) is available on portage, but SystemRescueCd (SystemRescueCd-x86-0.2.15) isn't. a) Have you had any problems getting these up and running? b) Have you noticed any collisions with adding packages to your gentoo install after these? (dependency / reverse dependency problems) Thanks for the input, I appreciate it! There's really not much use for installing partimage on Gentoo since partimage cannot backup or restore mounted file systems. Unless you want to setup a partimage server for other pc's to use, or backup partitions from other operating systems while running Gentoo. SystemRescueCd is an iso file, you use it to burn a bootable cd to perform misc tasks on your pc. Basically, for partimage use... you boot from the cd, mount a partition to write the backup images to and run partimage. Highly recommended: http://www.partimage.org/doc/index.html -jm -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)
Joe~ Thanks for the reply. I was reading the information on the system rescue site (from your last reply), and I think this could work fine. I'm reading through the rest of the documentation to see how to use this to perform backups. I did notice that SystemRescueCd is currently using a 2.4 kernel. Have you seen any hiccups using this with a much more current kernel release? (Mine is 2.6.12-r9) John D -Original Message- From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 5:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next) On Sunday August 21 2005 4:36 pm, John Dangler wrote: I noticed that partimage (0.6.4-r3) is available on portage, but SystemRescueCd (SystemRescueCd-x86-0.2.15) isn't. a) Have you had any problems getting these up and running? b) Have you noticed any collisions with adding packages to your gentoo install after these? (dependency / reverse dependency problems) Thanks for the input, I appreciate it! There's really not much use for installing partimage on Gentoo since partimage cannot backup or restore mounted file systems. Unless you want to setup a partimage server for other pc's to use, or backup partitions from other operating systems while running Gentoo. SystemRescueCd is an iso file, you use it to burn a bootable cd to perform misc tasks on your pc. Basically, for partimage use... you boot from the cd, mount a partition to write the backup images to and run partimage. Highly recommended: http://www.partimage.org/doc/index.html -jm -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 16:58:32 -0500, Joe Menola wrote: There's really not much use for installing partimage on Gentoo since partimage cannot backup or restore mounted file systems. Unless you want to setup a partimage server for other pc's to use, or backup partitions from other operating systems while running Gentoo. Or backup any partition other than /, or build a Live CD from your Gentoo system. -- Neil Bothwick ALZHEIMER.COM found . . . Out of . . . something . . pgp6YY8TpfCh9.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Gentoo equivalent to yum provides
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What command does one use to find what package(s) provide a particular file, given that that particular file is not present on my system? For example, I need a program called foobar, but don't know what package provides it. Under Fedora, I'd use yum provides foobar; what command should I use under Gentoo? Something like esearch foobar searches package titles, not contents. So, if I was searching for vi, I'd get all sorts of stuff that has nothing to do with the editor vi, but happens to have the substring vi in its name. And if I was searching for libfoobar.so, then I might not find any matches, since that file might be in a package called foobar. In other words, esearch foobar doesn't do what I want. Thanks, Rennie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDCRRxIvU5mZP08HERAoINAJsEepjSgBbeVyB+YRLr0A1VNh9qjACg2ROR VaVZ1b2wCKuwKTOwuNjNmiM= =lEJD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo equivalent to yum provides
Rennie deGraaf schreef: What command does one use to find what package(s) provide a particular file, given that that particular file is not present on my system? For example, I need a program called foobar, but don't know what package provides it. Under Fedora, I'd use yum provides foobar; what command should I use under Gentoo? Something like esearch foobar searches package titles, not contents. So, if I was searching for vi, I'd get all sorts of stuff that has nothing to do with the editor vi, but happens to have the substring vi in its name. And if I was searching for libfoobar.so, then I might not find any matches, since that file might be in a package called foobar. In other words, esearch foobar doesn't do what I want. Thanks, Rennie equery belongs equery [ Searching for file(s) equery in *... ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre5 (/usr/bin/equery) app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre5 (/usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre5/equery) :-) HTH, Holly -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where to put mknod?
--- Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 07:39:05 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Another post-emerge -u world wrinkle: before I can | /usr/sbin/pon must now | | mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0. | | Where does one put this command? I didn't see any | likely candidates in /etc/conf.d, /etc/init.d. Don't do that. Instead, fix your udev rules. I did(put it in local.start) and it works fine! Please esplain. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo equivalent to yum provides
man equery doesnt specifically say, but I suspect that along with other tools that do this like qpkg, they only work on the installed packages. I dont think gentoo can do this for packages not installed on the system. I usually end up googling ... BillK On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 02:12 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: Rennie deGraaf schreef: What command does one use to find what package(s) provide a particular file, given that that particular file is not present on my system? For ... equery belongs equery [ Searching for file(s) equery in *... ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre5 (/usr/bin/equery) app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre5 (/usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre5/equery) :-) HTH, Holly -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] gnome-control-center-1.4.0.5 in gnome 2.10
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Re: [gentoo-user] where to put mknod?
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:27:25 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Where does one put this command? I didn't see any | | likely candidates in /etc/conf.d, /etc/init.d. | | Don't do that. Instead, fix your udev rules. | | I did(put it in local.start) and it works fine! Please | esplain. /dev is a managed filesystem. You shouldn't be tinkering with it manually. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpSvLkuR6EjI.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo equivalent to yum provides
Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rennie deGraaf schreef: What command does one use to find what package(s) provide a particular file, given that that particular file is not present on my system? For example, I need a program called foobar, but don't know what package provides it. Under Fedora, I'd use yum provides foobar; what command should I use under Gentoo? Something like esearch foobar searches package titles, not contents. So, if I was searching for vi, I'd get all sorts of stuff that has nothing to do with the editor vi, but happens to have the substring vi in its name. And if I was searching for libfoobar.so, then I might not find any matches, since that file might be in a package called foobar. In other words, esearch foobar doesn't do what I want. Thanks, Rennie equery belongs equery [ Searching for file(s) equery in *... ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre5 (/usr/bin/equery) app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre5 (/usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre5/equery) This is new to me... thanks Holly W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: man equery doesnt specifically say, but I suspect that along with other tools that do this like qpkg, they only work on the installed packages. I dont think gentoo can do this for packages not installed on the system. I usually end up googling ... One piece of man page may indicate otherwise: list local-opts pkgspec This command lists packages matching pkgspec in a user-specified combination of installed packages, packages which are not installed, the portage tree, and the portage overlay tree. local-opts must include not include only -I; if -I is used, -p and/or -o must be also. By default, only installed packages are searched. -o searches only the overlay tree [and possibly installed packages], not the main portage tree. -i, --installed search installed packages (default) -I, --exclude-installed do not search installed packages -p, --portage-tree also search in portage tree (/usr/portage) -o,--overlay-treealsosearchinoverlaytree (/usr/local/portage) However, I couldn't piece together what `pkgspec' might mean. Can anyone here show some example commands using above with pkgspec explained a bit more? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)
SystemRescueCD is an iso you download and burn a CD. It is gentoo based and you boot it like a live CD. You boot the CD on a system and then run partimage to backup to a partimage server. Some things I found that were a hassle. I run partimage server on a Gentoo system and back up other boxes such as my Windows boxes to the Gentoo system. The RescueCD offers partimage and partimagessl for the programs. I had to run partimagessh -L on the system I was backing up and I had to compile the Gentoo partimage to NOT use passwords. I wanted to use passwords but evidently the RescueCD is compiled to not use them so I had to change my Gentoo compile to not use passwords. I tried to get the users file working and partimage still would not authenticate. If you are backing up NTFS filesystems use the default size for the images or it won't produce a readable image. I filed a bug on this but evidently it's an upstream problem and I need to bug it there, too. On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: I noticed that partimage (0.6.4-r3) is available on portage, but SystemRescueCd (SystemRescueCd-x86-0.2.15) isn't. a) Have you had any problems getting these up and running? b) Have you noticed any collisions with adding packages to your gentoo install after these? (dependency / reverse dependency problems) Thanks for the input, I appreciate it! John D -Original Message- From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] what's next On Sunday August 21 2005 11:24 am, John Dangler wrote: I'd like a good backup solution w/boot capability, but mondo is right out! It's too flaky at the moment. I'd like to get a backup of the system at this stage before adding a desktop environment, so that I have somewhere to go back to in case of a bork (either from software or operator error) Personally, I prefer to backup at the partition level. Partimage works quite well for me. http://www.partimage.org/ I boot with SystemRescueCd (has partimage built in) to backup and/or restore my partions. http://www.sysresccd.org/ -jm -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo equivalent to yum provides
Try equery. On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Rennie deGraaf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What command does one use to find what package(s) provide a particular file, given that that particular file is not present on my system? For example, I need a program called foobar, but don't know what package provides it. Under Fedora, I'd use yum provides foobar; what command should I use under Gentoo? Something like esearch foobar searches package titles, not contents. So, if I was searching for vi, I'd get all sorts of stuff that has nothing to do with the editor vi, but happens to have the substring vi in its name. And if I was searching for libfoobar.so, then I might not find any matches, since that file might be in a package called foobar. In other words, esearch foobar doesn't do what I want. Thanks, Rennie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDCRRxIvU5mZP08HERAoINAJsEepjSgBbeVyB+YRLr0A1VNh9qjACg2ROR VaVZ1b2wCKuwKTOwuNjNmiM= =lEJD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] gensplash oddity
Ok - I went back through the wiki article on using gensplash with genkernel. I used - genkernel --menuconfig --gensplash=livecd-2005.1 all (I usually --udev on the end, but every time I get told that -udev is deprecated since it is the default behavior) At the end of the process, I checked /var/log/genkernel.log . The last lines there look like this - Installing gensplash [ using the livecd-2005.1 theme ]. Merging initramfs-base-layout.cpio.gz initramfs-aux.cpio.gz initramfs-busybox-1.00-rt-mdstart.plasmaroo.cpio.gz initramfs-insmod-0.9.15-pre4.cpio.gz initramfs-udev-054.cpio.gz initramfs-modules-2.6.12-gentoo-r9.cpio.gz initramfs-splash-2.6.12-gentoo-r9.cpio.gz Gentoo Linux Genkernel: Version 3.3.5 Running with options ; genkernel --menuconfig --gensplash=livecd-2005.1 all ERROR: Could not copy the initramfs to /boot (yes, /boot is mounted) Then, I look at the long list in /boot . (ls -l) I compiled this today 8/21/05) at around 9pm (2100) 1603780 Aug 21 21:07 kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 10928128Aug 21 21:20 initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 I set up an additional grub entry for the splash options on the kernel line, and rebooted to see what the effect was. After the initial information at bootup, all I got was a black screen [This is on a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop. I may have the wrong settings ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), so if anyone knows how to correctly identify this I'd appreciate it]. I had to power off and on again to get video returned. I then tried the default r9 kernel boot without the splash - KERNEL PANIC . vfs out of sync. I rebooted into the old (r6 kernel), and re-ran 'genkernel --menuconfig --udev all' (no splash) to rebuild the r9 kernel, rebooted to the r9 kernel, and all is well. Anyone offering any assistance with this, please do. I've gotten everything in the base system running well except this issue, and I'm about to throw in the towel on splash. John D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Something wrong with udev: cdrom dev-file does not appear!
udevd doesn't create's device file, but when i manualy copy it from static dev tree my cdrom works fine, and sometimes udevd even creates symlinks on it (i.e. cdrom and cdrw), but this is not restore's after reboot. What's going wrong with it? I'm running 2.6.12 kernel whith udev version 068. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo equivalent to yum provides
neither equery nor any other program can predict what will be installed in a package, because that varies with architecture and USE flags. So there is no direct equivalent. You either have to work it out for yuorself, ggogle or ask here. This topic has been covered many times on this list. If you have a list of binary packages you can make a catalogue of filenames that appear in those binary packages. (rpm, deb etc) If you have a list of source files, and more than one way of compiling them (USE flags, gentoo) then you cannot make such a catalogue. On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:07:00 +0800 W.Kenworthy wrote: -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: WARNING - reiser and PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)
I helped a bloke install gentoo a few months ago. We downsized his reiser filesystemed suse install beforehand using the system rescue cd. It screwed the filesystem - it was unrecoverable. be warned. On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:00:10 -0400 John Dangler wrote: Joe~ Thanks for the reply. I was reading the information on the system rescue site (from your last reply), and I think this could work fine. I'm reading through the rest of the documentation to see how to use this to perform backups. I did notice that SystemRescueCd is currently using a 2.4 kernel. Have you seen any hiccups using this with a much more current kernel release? (Mine is 2.6.12-r9) John D -Original Message- From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 5:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next) On Sunday August 21 2005 4:36 pm, John Dangler wrote: I noticed that partimage (0.6.4-r3) is available on portage, but SystemRescueCd (SystemRescueCd-x86-0.2.15) isn't. a) Have you had any problems getting these up and running? b) Have you noticed any collisions with adding packages to your gentoo install after these? (dependency / reverse dependency problems) Thanks for the input, I appreciate it! There's really not much use for installing partimage on Gentoo since partimage cannot backup or restore mounted file systems. Unless you want to setup a partimage server for other pc's to use, or backup partitions from other operating systems while running Gentoo. SystemRescueCd is an iso file, you use it to burn a bootable cd to perform misc tasks on your pc. Basically, for partimage use... you boot from the cd, mount a partition to write the backup images to and run partimage. Highly recommended: http://www.partimage.org/doc/index.html -jm -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help needed for installing KDE
hi,
i am not able tolocate memtest86 ... can u pls guide me with it .. I have changed my ide cable but the DMA_INTR are still coming ..
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Re: [gentoo-user] trying to install faad2-2.0-r7 on my amd64 system
Tony Davison wrote: On Sunday 21 August 2005 20:53, Marianne Taylor wrote: I am getting the following error when I try to upgrade to faad2-2.0-r7. I need the patch for amd64 to use aac files. Here is the error message: Problem in media-libs/faad2-2.0-r7 dependencies. Specific key requires an operator (media-libs/faad2-2.0-r7) (try adding an '=') exceptions How can I get around this? As root Echo media-libs/faad2 ~am64 /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge faad2 This will (should) pick up the latest testing ebuild from portage. assuming you have synced recently. HTH Thanks that worked. I thought I had tried that, but now it works. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: WARNING - reiser and PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)
Thanks for the warning Nick. I've also looked into mondo, but that app has never worked for me (tried to get it running twice over about a month's time, with no success). John D -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WARNING - reiser and PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next) I helped a bloke install gentoo a few months ago. We downsized his reiser filesystemed suse install beforehand using the system rescue cd. It screwed the filesystem - it was unrecoverable. be warned. On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:00:10 -0400 John Dangler wrote: Joe~ Thanks for the reply. I was reading the information on the system rescue site (from your last reply), and I think this could work fine. I'm reading through the rest of the documentation to see how to use this to perform backups. I did notice that SystemRescueCd is currently using a 2.4 kernel. Have you seen any hiccups using this with a much more current kernel release? (Mine is 2.6.12-r9) John D -Original Message- From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 5:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next) On Sunday August 21 2005 4:36 pm, John Dangler wrote: I noticed that partimage (0.6.4-r3) is available on portage, but SystemRescueCd (SystemRescueCd-x86-0.2.15) isn't. a) Have you had any problems getting these up and running? b) Have you noticed any collisions with adding packages to your gentoo install after these? (dependency / reverse dependency problems) Thanks for the input, I appreciate it! There's really not much use for installing partimage on Gentoo since partimage cannot backup or restore mounted file systems. Unless you want to setup a partimage server for other pc's to use, or backup partitions from other operating systems while running Gentoo. SystemRescueCd is an iso file, you use it to burn a bootable cd to perform misc tasks on your pc. Basically, for partimage use... you boot from the cd, mount a partition to write the backup images to and run partimage. Highly recommended: http://www.partimage.org/doc/index.html -jm -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] No keyboard module
I had been looking for a way to have KDE turn on numlock when it starts up but I just noticed I do not have a keyboard module under Peripherals in KDE's (3.4) Control Center. I re-emerged it but no go. Anybody else seen this behavior? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] security issues
With the basic install of gentoo 2.6.12-r9 behind me (forget splash - it's not worth the headaches right now, and I need more research to find a good backup solution), I read through the gentoo security doc. There's a world of stuff here! I have a laptop that I'm intending to use for web development (the geek side) and also for business tasks (the end user side). I'm wondering how much / how little of the security measures mentioned in the gentoo security doc I really need? Or, should I move on to the desktop environment first, and then come back and tighten down the system? Thanks for the input - as always, greatly appreciated. John D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost Labyrinth
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 07:06 +0200, Markus Döbele wrote: I also created a rpm version of the game. I have no idea yet what I have to do to make it easy to install for gentoo users. Maybe you like to include our game in your distribution? Its only 4.4 MB big. Its a game like the old Roque and for Windows we have a lot of fans already. I would love it if we had a lot of Linux gamers too! Basically gentoo users will want to download it and compile it. Someone will need to create an ebuild for it. So: what language is it written in? what libraries are needed to compile it? what libraries are needed to run it? is there anything tricky about compiling and running it? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
