[gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
I've been running 2.6.10 for some time. Then I started reading some stuff that I should update my Dell Inspiron 8200 notebook to UDEV. So I followed the gentoo wiki page and used kernel 2.6.13. This caused (known) issues with my nvidia driver and I couldn't get the USB mouse to work (yet the alps pad AND track point both worked fine). I didn't know what else was going to not work, so I said the hell with this as I'd already wasted enough time and went back to my old kernel image (until the udev people get their shit together and this is more stable). I unmerged 'udev' I re-emerged devfsd Things were generally working fine (with 2.6.10) Tonight I tried to make a new 2.6.14 kernel (using make oldconfig) and when it booted, there was some message that I don't have DEVFS or UDEV installed and so many things didn't work including sound, nvidia, wireless, etc. I re-read the udev wiki page and tried to find the 'make menuconfig' options they suggest and can't find them. I also grepped my .config for both UDEV and DEVFS and found nothing. WTF! How do I use the good old devfs with the 2.6.14+ kernels?! Where are the freakin' settings? What do I need to change/fix to get it to work again. UGH! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what z p2p clients for linux?
On Tuesday 15 Nov 2005 5:42 pm, El Nino wrote: dear friends, what is the best p2p (Gnutella support) client for linux? Try Apollon with the plugins for OpenFT, Gnutella, FastTrack and Ares. I feel it is one of the best out there. Abhay pgpwo9q5LmomR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 08:56 schrieb ext Daevid Vincent: I've been running 2.6.10 for some time. Then I started reading some stuff that I should update my Dell Inspiron 8200 notebook to UDEV. So I followed the gentoo wiki page and used kernel 2.6.13. This caused (known) issues with my nvidia driver and I couldn't get the USB mouse to work (yet the alps pad AND track point both worked fine). How did you set it up? Where didn't it work, X, gpm? I didn't know what else was going to not work, so I said the hell with this as I'd already wasted enough time and went back to my old kernel image (until the udev people get their shit together and this is more stable). Udev works fine for me since months, now. I unmerged 'udev' I re-emerged devfsd Things were generally working fine (with 2.6.10) Tonight I tried to make a new 2.6.14 kernel (using make oldconfig) and when it booted, there was some message that I don't have DEVFS or UDEV installed and so many things didn't work including sound, nvidia, wireless, etc. I re-read the udev wiki page and tried to find the 'make menuconfig' options they suggest and can't find them. I also grepped my .config for both UDEV and DEVFS and found nothing. WTF! Config options for devfs were removed in 2.6.14. However, the code is still there (for now). How do I use the good old devfs with the 2.6.14+ kernels?! Where are the freakin' settings? What do I need to change/fix to get it to work again. They are commented out. Just grep your kernel source tree for CONFIG_DEVFS and comment them in again. However, sooner or later the devfs code will be removed from the kernel, maybe already in 2.6.15 or .16. If you tell us more details about your problems with udev, people here on the list will try to help you sort them out. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpXLfZF2dqZy.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Vixiecron not working all the sudden
Recently, around October 23rd, I've noticed that my cron.daily stuff isn't running. I've tried to 'restart' vixiecron and it complains that it's already started (duh). So I'll killall cron, rm the pid, etc. and then start it again and it works for a while then dies again. I made a simple script that emails me and put it in cron.hourly... Sure enough after a while it just stops working. WTF. I haven't updated vixiecron in a very long time... # genlop -l | grep cron Fri Jul 23 04:23:37 2004 sys-apps/cronbase-0.3 Sun Nov 7 10:54:47 2004 sys-apps/vixie-cron-4.1-r2 Sun Nov 7 21:54:46 2004 sys-apps/cronbase-0.3.1 Mon Nov 29 03:50:10 2004 sys-apps/vixie-cron-4.1-r4 Mon Apr 25 04:21:06 2005 sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r7 Sat May 7 20:28:31 2005 sys-process/cronbase-0.3.2 Thu Aug 11 06:22:34 2005 sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r8 # genlop -l --date 4 weeks ago * app-admin/gnome-system-tools [I removed some kde/gnome stuff, as that should have no effect] Wed Oct 19 12:51:38 2005 [some stuff, but cron worked after this point] Mon Oct 31 17:33:17 2005 app-shells/bash-3.0-r13 Mon Oct 31 20:48:56 2005 dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e-r2 Mon Oct 31 23:23:51 2005 dev-lang/python-2.4.2 Mon Oct 31 23:36:04 2005 sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-r2 Tue Nov 1 00:29:48 2005 net-misc/rsync-2.6.6-r1 Tue Nov 1 01:11:06 2005 net-misc/wget-1.10.2 Tue Nov 1 01:45:29 2005 sys-apps/man-pages-2.09 Tue Nov 1 03:00:18 2005 sys-devel/libtool-1.5.20 Tue Nov 1 17:22:28 2005 sys-fs/udev-070-r1 Tue Nov 1 19:48:17 2005 sys-libs/pam-0.78-r3 Tue Nov 1 21:29:46 2005 net-misc/openssh-4.2_p1 Wed Nov 2 01:18:33 2005 dev-perl/DBD-mysql-2.9007 Wed Nov 2 01:22:39 2005 media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10_rc2 Wed Nov 2 01:32:16 2005 media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc2 Wed Nov 2 01:32:51 2005 app-admin/localepurge-0.2-r2 Wed Nov 2 01:37:12 2005 mail-mta/exim-4.54 Wed Nov 2 01:42:49 2005 dev-libs/glib-2.8.3 Wed Nov 2 11:25:22 2005 app-crypt/gpgme-1.1.0 Thu Nov 3 01:24:42 2005 media-libs/taglib-1.4 Thu Nov 3 08:53:06 2005 net-misc/curl-7.15.0 Thu Nov 3 08:57:10 2005 gnome-base/librsvg-2.12.7 Thu Nov 3 08:58:36 2005 app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.4.3 Thu Nov 3 09:01:17 2005 media-sound/sound-juicer-2.12.2-r1 Thu Nov 3 09:31:07 2005 dev-python/pygtk-2.8.2 Thu Nov 3 09:34:29 2005 app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.0-r2 Thu Nov 3 09:37:48 2005 dev-db/phpmyadmin-2.6.4_p3 Thu Nov 3 09:38:29 2005 net-www/mod_auth_mysql-3.0.0 Thu Nov 3 09:48:29 2005 media-sound/beep-media-player-0.9.7-r8 Thu Nov 3 09:51:51 2005 media-libs/imlib2-1.2.1.009 Thu Nov 3 09:52:48 2005 net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r2 Thu Nov 3 10:26:21 2005 media-gfx/imagemagick-6.2.4.2-r1 Thu Nov 3 23:31:26 2005 sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.12-r3 Thu Nov 3 23:42:31 2005 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.13-r5 Thu Nov 3 23:51:59 2005 media-libs/netpbm-10.29 Thu Nov 3 23:52:43 2005 app-admin/eselect-1.0_rc1 Thu Nov 3 23:53:21 2005 app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.3 Fri Nov 4 00:05:30 2005 media-gfx/xloadimage-4.1-r4 Fri Nov 4 00:10:50 2005 dev-libs/liboil-0.3.3 Fri Nov 4 00:26:44 2005 net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r4 Fri Nov 4 00:32:55 2005 x11-libs/fltk-1.1.6 Fri Nov 4 00:41:16 2005 media-video/totem-1.2.0-r2 Sat Nov 5 20:04:15 2005 sys-apps/man-pages-2.11 Sat Nov 5 23:21:51 2005 media-libs/giflib-4.1.4 Thu Nov 10 22:13:58 2005 sys-apps/attr-2.4.19-r1 Thu Nov 10 22:16:32 2005 sys-apps/acl-2.2.27 Thu Nov 10 22:38:35 2005 media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10_rc3 Thu Nov 10 22:46:57 2005 media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc3 Thu Nov 10 22:47:27 2005 app-portage/mirrorselect-1.2 Thu Nov 10 23:27:17 2005 dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.10-r1 Thu Nov 10 23:34:36 2005 x11-libs/vte-0.11.15-r1 Thu Nov 10 23:35:17 2005 app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.0-r3 Thu Nov 10 23:38:35 2005 dev-db/phpmyadmin-2.7.0_beta1 The cron man page states: In this version of cron, /etc/crontab must not be readable or writable by any user other than root. In other words, it should be mode 0600. # ll /etc/crontab -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2477 Aug 11 06:22 /etc/crontab # chmod 600 /etc/crontab # ll /etc/crontab -rw--- 1 root root 2477 Aug 11 06:22 /etc/crontab # /etc/init.d/vixie-cron restart But I don't think that will slove it, as the date of the file his Aug 11th... So that means it was running fine for several months with the wrong perms... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
(I think, without checking) devfs has been removed from 2.6.14 and everything is supposed to be udev from now on. A suggestion made out of frustration with 2.6.14 - use 2.6.13-r3 first. Some kernel versions have had glitches with udev, and I know -r2 and -r3 are working for me on the i82k. The reason is that 2.6.14 has made some rather large leaps that created problems for me (so far all 3 machines, inc. desktops Ive tried have headaches!) First udev, install udev according to the gentoo guide and that should work fine. Check the udev USE flag so and emerge world --newuse if neccessary. Strongly reccomended: use the tarball method, not pure udev! you have enough problems without trying to sort that out. Once its working and reliable, make the step to 2.6.14-r2 Traps for 2.6.14 are: dont select both the log and ulog targets together in the netfilter modules or you wont have any logging (changes mean only a single target can be selected at a time - of course in true unix fashion they dont tell you that, or prevent you from doing it:( Only wpa_supplicant version 0.4.5 seems to work pcmcia stuff seems to have changed somewhat, and I changed to pcmciautils which was probably not necessary looking back, but it works nicely and pcmcia-cs is on the way out. wireless (madwifi) is now working fine (still got to check no encryption which I have not been able to get to work under 2.6.13) - I turned all kernel wireless stuff off and use wpa_supplicant and madwifi softwaresuspend2 rc9 works with 2.6.14 - r10 and r11 have bugs, the earlier ones dont apply cleanly. The cisco-vpnclient wont compile against 2.6.14 until you delete some lines out of one of the files: there's patches/instructions on the forums. Also, with the latest security bug in one of the protocols it uses, an update will be along soon I'd say. Ive had no problems with the 6629 series nvidia drivers, manually patched for suspend2, but this was on a desktop (gforce4) as the i82k uses a radeon card. Had to use the ~x86 x11-drm to compile the radeon drm driver against 2.6.14 2.6.14 is looking like a major pita so far. I have another machine to do tonight, but hopefully there wont be any new dramas. BillK On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 23:56 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: I've been running 2.6.10 for some time. Then I started reading some stuff that I should update my Dell Inspiron 8200 notebook to UDEV. So I followed the gentoo wiki page and used kernel 2.6.13. This caused (known) issues with my nvidia driver and I couldn't get the USB mouse to work (yet the alps pad AND track point both worked fine). I didn't know what else was going to not work, so I said the hell with this as I'd already wasted enough time and went back to my old kernel image (until the udev people get their shit together and this is more stable). I unmerged 'udev' I re-emerged devfsd Things were generally working fine (with 2.6.10) Tonight I tried to make a new 2.6.14 kernel (using make oldconfig) and when it booted, there was some message that I don't have DEVFS or UDEV installed and so many things didn't work including sound, nvidia, wireless, etc. I re-read the udev wiki page and tried to find the 'make menuconfig' options they suggest and can't find them. I also grepped my .config for both UDEV and DEVFS and found nothing. WTF! How do I use the good old devfs with the 2.6.14+ kernels?! Where are the freakin' settings? What do I need to change/fix to get it to work again. UGH! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fixing fstab
On 2005-11-16 14:11:28 +0930 (Wed, Nov), Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 23:00 -0500, ellotheth rimmwen wrote: because I just couLDN'T TAKE ANY MORE. And you're obviously using vi to compose mail :) Still haven't figured out the backspace and caps? Now, if you were using emacs, from the end of the line you could just ctrl-leftarrow, ctrl-leftarrow, ctrl-leftarrow, ctrl-leftarrow, ctrl-leftarrow, alt-l, alt-l, alt-l, alt-l, alt-l. Could it be any simpler?!! Maybe: ESCgu0 (in vim, from the end of the line) Could it be any simpler ? :-)) On the other hand, if you want to yell, and haven't tuned CapsLock ON you may just press: ESCgU0A and continue typing. You know that ellotheth just wanted to scream, and it was not a mistake? ;-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by 'grep -i virus $MESSAGE' Trust me. pgpbVxjltrYpn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:35 am, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run. Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast forward (2x, 4x) in (g)mplayer? I do not mean skip forward some seconds, I mean real fast forward? The only reason I use (g)mplayer is, that it sometimes is able to play vids, xine barfs on (and vice versa, so both are needed). mplayer refuses to run and gmplayer runs? what error do you get with mplayer? Also, mplayer's native GUI or gmplayer is very bad. You should rather use alternatives like kmplayer. I am a big fan of mplayer and the main reason behind it, is the interface it has. You can control everything you want with keyboard so never need a GUI. Abhay pgp5yUPrie237.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 09:22 schrieb ext W.Kenworthy: (I think, without checking) devfs has been removed from 2.6.14 and everything is supposed to be udev from now on. Nope, not yet. Only the config options have been commented out. First udev, install udev according to the gentoo guide and that should work fine. Check the udev USE flag so and emerge world --newuse if neccessary. Strongly reccomended: use the tarball method, not pure udev! you have enough problems without trying to sort that out. I would recommend to _not_ use the tarball method :-). I've always had problems when I forgot to set RC_DEVICE_TARBALL=no in /etc/conf.d/rc after baselayout update (can't remember what kind of problems, though). It is, however, a good idea to create permanent /dev/null and /dev/console nodes with mknod beforehand. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpozIUDSQTLo.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Failed to resolve module dependencies.
Hello all, My Gentoo installation is running fine at the moment, but ever since I installed it, I have had the boot up message Failed to resolve module dependencies! displayed during the boot process. Does anyone have any idea what may be causing this and how to resolve it? Thanks, -- Ant... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 09:42 schrieb ext Dirk Heinrichs: Nope, not yet. Only the config options have been commented out. Correction: The config options have been removed, not just commented out. The devfs code is still there. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpYSAGoKROYS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] fixing fstab
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:31:01 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: I still don't understand the logic of not having vi installed by default over nano... easier for newbies. And ethically acceptable to emacs users :) -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 31: Small crowd signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
Correction: The config options have been removed, not just commented out. The devfs code is still there. You mean there's still devfs in 2.6.14, but it is hidden? What's the sense of this? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 10:19 schrieb ext brullo nulla: You mean there's still devfs in 2.6.14, but it is hidden? What's the sense of this? It's very hard to remove devfs from the kernel. Just removing the configure options for it makes it easier to put it in again, in case of to much complains about its removal. In addition, kernel developers can now remove devfs code piece by piece behind the scenes. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgp3mRlaqrPQ4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Local dictionary in KDE?
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 4:25 am, Willie Wong wrote: An option to skip installing dictd is to install the commandline version of StarDict, http://sdcv.sourceforge.net/ Last I checked it is not in portage. It doesn't really work like Kdict, but suits my needs well enough. Ok so I installed sdcv but for every word I search the output is Nothing similar to word, sorry :( Do I need to install something else as well? Also the download size is just 163KB and I seriously doubt that it contains dictionary files. What am I doing wrong? Abhay pgpPirvoJSyzD.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption
I'm in over my head---bigtime. Trying to install a good gentoo setup, to configure xorg where I have been forced to use the last working video card in my parts box: a matrox mystique. The system is ok, with A7V600 MB, 512 MB RAM, and an Athlon XP 2600+. Video is corrupted using Gentoo, no matter what I've thought of to do. An Ubuntu partition on this box runs this video card quite well. I gather that there was a bug in the mga drivers some time ago, and it appears that the xorg drivers have incorporated the patches I have seen during my google searches. I do wonder what to do about framebuffers, though. Tiring of the battle, after many years of avoiding framebuffers, I finally turned on every possible framebuffer related option in the kernel, recompiled the kernel, installed, and ... the machine refused to boot. So I cobbled the system back together and recompiled, and the system is back to the corruption issues again. I do note that Ubuntu has some framebuffer modules loaded, and I would like to learn just how this framebuffer might make my life any easier. Can someone point to a description of the use of framebuffers? Why does Gentoo include a no framebuffer kernel on the installation CDs? Is it adviseable to use fb with the matrox driver on an x86 system? Description: when scrolling the buffer, some lines are doubled, some are lost, and using Firefox at least, when I type Ctrl-L, the frame displays properly until it is scrolled again. I have found descriptions of similar issues on the Inet, but nothing that has helped get my system to work properly. Does this symptom ring a bell with anyone? Thank you for any advice or pointers. Gentoo is fantastic. Alan Davis I
[gentoo-user] sun-jdk
Hi folks ! i´m trying to emerge the sun-jdk but i receive an emerge restrictuin to this package. How can I merge this package to the tree instead installing this package manualy ?? hosttmp # emerge -p sun-jdk These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done![ebuild FU ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.09 [1.4.2.08-r1] stallman tmp # emerge -f sun-jdk Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.09 to /!!! j2sdk-1_4_2_09-linux-i586.bin not found in /usr/portage/distfiles !!! dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.09 has fetch restriction turned on.!!! This probably means that this ebuild's files must be downloaded!!! manually. See the comments in the ebuild for more information. * Please download j2sdk-1_4_2_09-linux-i586.bin from:* http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22PartDetailId=j2sdk-1.4.2_09-oth-JPRSiteId=JSCTransactionId=noreg * (SDK 32-bit/64-bit for Windows/Linux/Solaris SPARC 32-bit for Solaris x86, then select download Linux Self-extracting. * and move it to /usr/portage/distfiles !!! Fetch for /usr/portage/dev-java/sun-jdk/sun-jdk-1.4.2.09.ebuild failed, continuing... !!! Some fetch errors were encountered. Please see above for detai-- __Atenciosamente,Thiago Lüttig__
[gentoo-user] compiling problems
I'm experiencing unending problems compiling packages on a new install system. The current one was gtk+ : gtkdoc-scan --module=gdk-pixbuf --source-dir=../../../gdk-pixbuf --ignore-headers=pixops gdk-pixbuf-alias.h gdk-pixbuf-marshal.h gdk-pixbuf-xlib-private.h gdk-pixbuf-i18n.h gdk-pixbuf-private.h io-gif-animation.h io-ani-animation.h test-images.h --source-dir=../../../contrib/gdk-pixbuf-xlib --deprecated-guards=GDK_PIXBUF_ENABLE_BROKEN|GDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED touch scan-build.stamp *** Rebuilding template files *** cd . gtkdoc-mktmpl --module=gdk-pixbuf = WARNING: 1 unused declarations. These can be found in gdk-pixbuf-unused.txt. They should be added to gdk-pixbuf-sections.txt in the appropriate place. = touch tmpl-build.stamp *** Building XML *** cd . \ gtkdoc-mkdb --module=gdk-pixbuf --source-dir=../../../gdk-pixbuf --output-format=xml --main-sgml-file=gdk-pixbuf.sgml --sgml-mode --source-dir=../../../contrib/gdk-pixbuf-xlib --output-format=xml 99% symbol docs coverage (183 symbols documented, 3 symbols incomplete, 2 not documented) See gdk-pixbuf-undocumented.txt for a list of missing docs. The doc coverage percentage doesn't include intro sections. Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/bin/gtkdoc-mkdb line 608. touch sgml-build.stamp *** Building HTML *** rm -rf ./html mkdir ./html cd ./html gtkdoc-mkhtml gdk-pixbuf ../gdk-pixbuf.sgml parser error : out of memory error file:///usr/share/sgml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets-1.68.1/common/zh_tw.xml:32: parser error : out of memory error l:gentext key=dedication text=#22857;#29563;/ The compilation just hangs at this point. top says: top - 12:12:44 up 1 day, 4:29, 3 users, load average: 1.08, 1.19, 1.49 Tasks: 95 total, 3 running, 90 sleeping, 2 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 99.7% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 0.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem:514880k total, 425308k used,89572k free,53952k buffers Swap: 787104k total, 196k used, 786908k free, 218048k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 16112 root 25 0 58576 54m 1256 R 99.6 10.9 7:49.07 xsltproc 23410 root 16 0 2028 1076 816 R 0.3 0.2 0:03.46 top 1 root 16 0 1448 448 392 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.59 init 2 root RT 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 3 root 34 19 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0 4 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.18 events/0 Could there be some problem with gcc-3.3.6? $ emerge --info Portage 2.0.51.22-r3 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.3.6, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 i686) = System uname: 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.50GHz Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13 dev-lang/python: 2.3.5, 2.4.2 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.12 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r6 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.15.92.0.2-r10 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.20 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/ /usr/share/texmf/xdvi/ /var/qmail/control CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://mirrors1.netvisao.pt/gentoo/ http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo; MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=x86 X aalib alsa apm arts bash-completion bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdb cdparanoia cdr crypt curl directfb doc dri dvd dvdread fbcon gif gphoto2 gpm gtk gtk2 imagemagick imap imlib java javaperl jpeg jpeg2k kde lm_sensors maildir mime motif ncurses nls nptl nsplugin offensive opengl pam pdflib png posix python qt readline recode scanner ssl tetex tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts xmljpeg zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?
On 11/15/05, abhay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 1:14 am, Jeff Smelser wrote: I am using 1.3.6 and i havent had problem with crashes unless I start messing with the cover manager..I am using 1.3.6 as well and not messing with cover manager. In fact I didn't even know something like that existed until you mentioned :PThe crashes are random...no way I can reproduce them.Abhay Well, I'm using 1.2.4 thou.. It behaved very well before.. but now it just crashes all the time... I dont remember to have done anything different that may have caused this... Anyway, I'll update to 1.3.6 and see how it goes.. Fernando.
Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 12:31 schrieb ext Thiago Lüttig: Hi folks ! iŽm trying to emerge the sun-jdk but i receive an emerge restrictuin to this package. How can I merge this package to the tree instead installing this package manualy ?? Just follow the instructions. Portage can't download this package, because it involves a license acceptance step. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpDMgGUHuv8M.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk
so I must download an self installing executable and manualy install it in my system ?? I can make an gentoo package containing the jdk after the install ? On 11/16/05, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 12:31 schrieb ext Thiago Lüttig: Hi folks ! iŽm trying to emerge the sun-jdk but i receive an emerge restrictuin to this package. How can I merge this package to the tree instead installing this package manualy ??Just follow the instructions. Portage can't download this package, becauseit involves a license acceptance step. Bye... Dirk--Dirk Heinrichs| Tel:+49 (0)162 234 3408Configuration Manager | Fax:+49 (0)211 47068 111Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hambornerstraße 55| Web:http://www.capgemini.comD-40472 Düsseldorf| ICQ#: 110037733GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net-- __Atenciosamente,Thiago Lüttig__
Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk
Thiago Lüttig wrote: Hi folks ! i´m trying to emerge the sun-jdk but i receive an emerge restrictuin to this package. How can I merge this package to the tree instead installing this package manualy ?? !!! dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.09 has fetch restriction turned on. !!! This probably means that this ebuild's files must be downloaded !!! manually. See the comments in the ebuild for more information. * Please download j2sdk-1_4_2_09-linux-i586.bin from: * http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22PartDetailId=j2sdk-1.4.2_09-oth-JPRSiteId=JSCTransactionId=noreg http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22PartDetailId=j2sdk-1.4.2_09-oth-JPRSiteId=JSCTransactionId=noreg * (SDK 32-bit/64-bit for Windows/Linux/Solaris SPARC 32-bit for Solaris x86, then select download Linux Self-extracting. * and move it to /usr/portage/distfiles Read this and do as it says. You need to dowload it manualy and _then_ emerge it. -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 09:37, abhay wrote: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:35 am, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run. Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast forward (2x, 4x) in (g)mplayer? I do not mean skip forward some seconds, I mean real fast forward? The only reason I use (g)mplayer is, that it sometimes is able to play vids, xine barfs on (and vice versa, so both are needed). mplayer refuses to run and gmplayer runs? what error do you get with mplayer? Also, mplayer's native GUI or gmplayer is very bad. You should rather use alternatives like kmplayer. I am a big fan of mplayer and the main reason behind it, is the interface it has. You can control everything you want with keyboard so never need a GUI. Abhay VDec: VO wird versucht, auf 512 x 384 (Bevorzugter Farbraum: Planar YV12) zu setzen. Konnte keinen passenden Farbraum finden - neuer Versuch mit '-vf scale'.. Öffne Videofilter: [scale] Der ausgewählte Videoausgabetreiber ist nicht kompatibel mit diesem Codec. FATAL: Konnte Videofilter (-vf) oder -ausgabetreiber (-vo) nicht initialisieren. alsa-uninit: pcm closed Beenden... (Dateiende erreicht.) gmplayer has no problems with the same file. Oh, and it is gmplayer, because that is, what opens, when I try to open it with right click and 'play with -- mplayer' ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:15, Nick Rout wrote:
Interesting, is this on all files, or just some?
Is it the same in gmplayer and mplayer?
gmplayer -mplayer itself does refuse to run.
Oh, but if you know mplayer so well, maybe you can tell me, how to fast
forward (2x, 4x) in (g)mplayer? I do not mean skip forward some seconds,
I mean real fast forward?
I have never tried it, so I read the man page just now, and searched on
speed. I pretty quickly dound this:
general control
- and -
Seek backward/forward 10 seconds.
up and down
Seek backward/forward 1 minute.
pgup and pgdown
Seek backward/forward 10 minutes.
[ and ]
Decreases/increases current playback speed by 10%.
{ and }
Halves/doubles current playback speed.
so looks like [ ] { and } should be tried.
thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive.
xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to
span my fingers over half the keyboard..
But mplayer also jumps forward with mouse wheel up, and backwards with mouse
wheel down... the opposite of what I would expect. If you read a book, you
read from top down.. so going downwards is forward. ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk
Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 12:54 schrieb ext Thiago Lüttig: so I must download an self installing executable and manualy install it in my system ?? No, download, then emerge again. The self-extracting refers to the fact that there are two downloads available for Linux. The ebuild expects the self-extracting package. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgp940h95YdiD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk
Thiago Lüttig wrote: Hi folks ! i´m trying to emerge the sun-jdk but i receive an emerge restrictuin to this package. How can I merge this package to the tree instead installing this package manualy ?? By reading the error message. It's all written there in the rows starting with a *. Alexander Skwar -- Men of quality are not afraid of women for equality. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sun-jdk
Thiago Lüttig wrote: so I must download an self installing executable and manualy install it in my system ?? No. What does make you think that? Just read the error message and act accordingly. I can make an gentoo package containing the jdk after the install ? No. PS: Please no full quote, top quote and HTML junk. Alexander Skwar -- Men of quality are not afraid of women for equality. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fixing fstab
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 09:28 +0100, Mariusz Pękala wrote: You know that ellotheth just wanted to scream, and it was not a mistake? Yes, I was just making an attempt at humour... ;-) :-7 -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:05:28 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive. xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to span my fingers over half the keyboard.. But mplayer also jumps forward with mouse wheel up, and backwards with mouse wheel down... the opposite of what I would expect. If you read a book, you read from top down.. so going downwards is forward. ;) mplayer also allows you to redefine all of these in its config file. You don't have to worry about it being intuitive when you get to choose the key bindings. -- Neil Bothwick Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Vixiecron not working all the sudden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daevid Vincent wrote: But I don't think that will slove it, as the date of the file his Aug 11th... So that means it was running fine for several months with the wrong perms... is it running? I mean, ps ax shows it? - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar Romper un sistema de seguridad los acerca tanto a ser hackers como el encender autos puenteando los convierte en ingenieros automotrices. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDezCLAlpOsGhXcE0RAlJmAJ9l9tsXRvXtx4cpTJ+712CexG/U4QCbBPjR EUUyEVXom7VQT8wrYkk26p0= =2ejn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fixing fstab
On 11/16/05, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 09:28 +0100, Mariusz Pękala wrote: You know that ellotheth just wanted to scream, and it was not a mistake? Yes, I was just making an attempt at humour... Hey, I laughed. =D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS trouble
Thanks, I will try to fix the reverse addressess ... thanks. On 11/15/05, Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dig -x 210.200.1.1 | grep AUTHORITY\ SEC -A 1 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 1.200.210.in-addr.arpa. 10733 IN SOA dns.ht.net.tw. root.dns.ht.net.tw. 1999090230 10800 3600 360 86400 Are you dns.ht.net.tw. ??? If not, then you need to contact them to get the reverse fixed. You can either allow them to give you authority over your address space, or they can add the names to their 1.200.210.in-addr.arpa file on the DNS. for your internal DNS, you setup your own .in-addr.arpa files for the 192.169.0.0/16 subnets that you use. On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: still the problem [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ host 210.200.1.230 Host 230.1.200.210.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ host 210.200.1.232 232.1.200.210.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer shakan.commodity.com.br. and seems to me that both shakan.eng.com.br and thewho.eng.com.br is configured equal at the zones; the diference is the thewho ( 210.200.1.230 ) is my DNS server. On 11/14/05, Michael Kjorling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-11-14 12:46 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does someone have a clue about what is going on ? Yes, `nslookup' is fundamentally broken. Try `host' or `dig' (with its `-x' option) instead. And don't expect RFC 1918 address space to be resolvable via a public name server... - -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDeLeHdY+HSb3praYRAiahAJ4qLwX2kPTKMvIyuWwDTaPcrgYM3QCfTQhW nxFNE0o+QiYj1nsnU06LvGQ= =F5Xs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Local dictionary in KDE?
abhay schreef: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 4:25 am, Willie Wong wrote: An option to skip installing dictd is to install the commandline version of StarDict, http://sdcv.sourceforge.net/ Last I checked it is not in portage. It doesn't really work like Kdict, but suits my needs well enough. Ok so I installed sdcv but for every word I search the output is Nothing similar to word, sorry :( Do I need to install something else as well? Also the download size is just 163KB and I seriously doubt that it contains dictionary files. What am I doing wrong? Abhay It would seem that you need some dictionaries: From sdcv homepage: SDCV is simple, cross-platform text-base utility for work with dictionaries in StarDict's format. This does not suggest that sdcv actutally *has* these dictionaries contained within it. But likely whatever is missing can be found at the stardict site http://stardict.sourceforge.net/ Dictionaries would seem to be found at http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php which at the top of the page has links to several sites containing stardict dictionaries, and then the page itself gives instructions on how to insert them into the program; or perhaps /stardict-ed/ , a fork of stardict which is now known as wisedict (found at http://wise.sourceforge.net/ ) WiseDict is a computer dictionary based on StarDict may also contain some dictionaries by default. Hope this is helpful in some way. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gnome Timer
Is there something akin to the KDE timer? --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:31 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: FATAL: Konnte Videofilter (-vf) oder -ausgabetreiber (-vo) nicht initialisieren. I could not make much out of that error message (still need to learn a lot of languages ;) ) but looks like a problem with your video output driver settings. Check in /etc/mplayer.conf and ~/.mplayer/gui.conf as to which vo drivers you are using in each of them. gui.conf has correct vo_driver configuration while mplayer.conf doesn't. Hope that helps. Abhay pgpmFyKKhd9v9.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Default kernel's PAGE_SIZE
Hi, im tunnig a postgresql server and i want to know what is the default value for kernel's PAGE_SIZE Is this a gentoo especific value or aplies to linux kernels in general, i mean, any distribution? Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 13:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:05:28 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive. xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to span my fingers over half the keyboard.. But mplayer also jumps forward with mouse wheel up, and backwards with mouse wheel down... the opposite of what I would expect. If you read a book, you read from top down.. so going downwards is forward. ;) mplayer also allows you to redefine all of these in its config file. You don't have to worry about it being intuitive when you get to choose the key bindings. but xine does it right without the need of editing the conf, so in my humble opinion, xine is better - I am lazy ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 15:46, abhay wrote: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 5:31 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: FATAL: Konnte Videofilter (-vf) oder -ausgabetreiber (-vo) nicht initialisieren. I could not make much out of that error message (still need to learn a lot of languages ;) ) but looks like a problem with your video output driver settings. Check in /etc/mplayer.conf and ~/.mplayer/gui.conf as to which vo drivers you are using in each of them. gui.conf has correct vo_driver configuration while mplayer.conf doesn't. Hope that helps. hm, it used xvmc as default, I set it to xv and it worked. Andmplayer does indeed honor the aspect-ratio. Sadly, you are forced to have the window in the right ratio (not like xine, where you can have the window in every ratio you like, and xine adds blavk lines where needed). But still - when I do my right-click-open with mplayer, gmplayer starts. And gmplayer ignores the aspect ratio. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities
Antoine wrote: Hi, We are going to set up ssl on a webserver at work and I guess that means we need a certificate... does anyone have any useful alternatives to Verisign? Are they really worth the name? We are not going to be doing any monetary transactions but our clients are very security conscious (who isn't!) and I have no experience in these matters. I am certain the boss will want verisign, as he buys a lot of stuff just for the name but if I can offer him a comparable alternative at a fraction of the cost he may go for it. We've got a number of customers that use Geotrust which is significantly cheaper than Verisign/Thwate. Someone also uses Starfield which is dirt cheap. There is a technical issue when using certs no one has ever heard of before. Many times their cert company's root certs or whatever are not in the user's browser. In order to fix this you'll need install the cert company's intermediate cert or chain cert on your server so that the broswer can chain your new cert to a cert it already trusts. SSLCACertificateFile conf/ssl.crt/starfield-chain.crt kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?
On 11/16/05, Fernando Meira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm using 1.2.4 thou.. It behaved very well before.. but now it just crashes all the time... I dont remember to have done anything different that may have caused this... Anyway, I'll update to 1.3.6 and see how it goes.. Fernando. Well.. the update didn't go as well as I would like! Here's where the problem started! Any idea? /bin/sh ../../../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -o libamarokarts.la -rpath /usr/kde/3.4/lib -L/usr/kde/3.4/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/lib -avoid-version -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined amarokarts.lo synth_stereo_xfade_impl.lo rawscope_impl.lo -lkmedia2_idl -lsoundserver_idl -lartsflow .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE48_N4Arts16SynthModule_stubE+0xa8): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::autoSuspend()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE48_N4Arts16SynthModule_stubE+0xac): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::start()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE48_N4Arts16SynthModule_stubE+0xb0): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::stop()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE48_N4Arts16SynthModule_stubE+0xb4): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamInit()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE48_N4Arts16SynthModule_stubE+0xb8): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamStart()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE48_N4Arts16SynthModule_stubE+0xbc): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamEnd()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTVN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE+0x58): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::autoSuspend()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTVN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE+0x5c): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::start()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTVN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE+0x60): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::stop()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTVN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE+0x64): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamInit()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTVN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE+0x68): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamStart()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTVN6Amarok23Synth_STEREO_XFADE_stubE+0x6c): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamEnd()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok13RawScope_stubE52_N4Arts16SynthModule_stubE+0xa8): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::autoSuspend()' .libs/amarokarts.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok13RawScope_stubE52_N4Arts16SynthModule_stubE+0xac): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::start()' (it goes on and on...) .libs/rawscope_impl.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok13RawScope_implE4_N4Arts14StdSynthModuleE+0xa4): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::autoSuspend()' .libs/rawscope_impl.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok13RawScope_implE4_N4Arts14StdSynthModuleE+0xa8): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::start()' .libs/rawscope_impl.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok13RawScope_implE4_N4Arts14StdSynthModuleE+0xac): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::stop()' .libs/rawscope_impl.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok13RawScope_implE4_N4Arts14StdSynthModuleE+0xb0): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamInit()' .libs/rawscope_impl.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok13RawScope_implE4_N4Arts14StdSynthModuleE+0xb4): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamStart()' .libs/rawscope_impl.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok13RawScope_implE4_N4Arts14StdSynthModuleE+0xb8): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamEnd()' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[6]: *** [libamarokarts.la] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/amarok-1.3.6/work/amarok-1.3.6/amarok/src/engine/arts/amarokarts' make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 (...)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:14:18 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: mplayer also allows you to redefine all of these in its config file. You don't have to worry about it being intuitive when you get to choose the key bindings. but xine does it right without the need of editing the conf, so in my humble opinion, xine is better - I am lazy ;) No, you just used xine first, so its controls appeared more intuitive to you. If you'd got used to mplayer's controls first, you'd have the same complaint about xine. Very little about computer user interfaces is truly intuitive, it's just a matter of what you are used to. -- Neil Bothwick furbling, v.: Having to wander through a maze of ropes at an airport or bank even when you are the only person in line. -- Rich Hall, Sniglets signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Local dictionary in KDE?
On 16 November 2005 15:57, Holly Bostick wrote: abhay schreef: On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 4:25 am, Willie Wong wrote: An option to skip installing dictd is to install the commandline version of StarDict, http://sdcv.sourceforge.net/ Last I checked it is not in portage. It doesn't really work like Kdict, but suits my needs well enough. Ok so I installed sdcv but for every word I search the output is Nothing similar to word, sorry :( Do I need to install something else as well? Also the download size is just 163KB and I seriously doubt that it contains dictionary files. What am I doing wrong? Abhay It would seem that you need some dictionaries: From sdcv homepage: SDCV is simple, cross-platform text-base utility for work with dictionaries in StarDict's format. This does not suggest that sdcv actutally *has* these dictionaries contained within it. But likely whatever is missing can be found at the stardict site Stasrdict dictionaries actually are in portage. Uwe -- 95% of all programmers rate themselves among the top 5% of all software developers. - Linus Torvalds http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?
On 11/16/05, Fernando Meira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well.. the update didn't go as well as I would like! Here's where the problem started! Any idea? make[6]: *** [libamarokarts.la] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/amarok-1.3.6/work/amarok-1.3.6/amarok/src/engine/arts/amarokarts' make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 (...) Although amarok is probably my favorite audio player, I have found it to be a little finicky. I usually find it works best with xine. I usually use a -arts -gstreamer xine so xine is the only engine available. I also usually have a -mysql -postgres because it seems silly to me to have a database running to listen to music. If you disable both of those, it just uses sqlite. I have also use -opengl becase at one time (they probably have fixed it by now, but I haven't checked) there was an issue with amarok, opengl, and nvidia cards. I don't use/watch any of the visualizations anyway so I have never seen the point. I make sure to add in musicbrainz since that is a nice service. So to sum up, my use flags are generally: -arts -gstreamer xine -mysql -postgres -opengl musicbrainz I know it isn't a direct solution to your problem, I just thought I would share my experiences. Preston
Re: [gentoo-user] compiling problems
On 11/16/05, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm experiencing unending problems compiling packages on a new install system. The current one was gtk+ : snip cd ./html gtkdoc-mkhtml gdk-pixbuf ../gdk-pixbuf.sgml parser error : out of memory error snip Could there be some problem with gcc-3.3.6? Probably not, because it isn't gcc that is failing...it is gtkdoc-mkhtml, and it is running out of memory. You can either merge gtk with USE=-doc, which will skip this step, or use MAKEFLAGS=-j1, which will run only one process at a time, and reduce your memory requirements by about half. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Dig
Willie Wong wwong at Princeton.EDU writes: What package is the command `dig' in? equery belongs dig is a really nifty search tool James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
On 11/16/05, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 10:19 schrieb ext brullo nulla: You mean there's still devfs in 2.6.14, but it is hidden? What's the sense of this? It's very hard to remove devfs from the kernel. Just removing the configure options for it makes it easier to put it in again, in case of to much complains about its removal. In addition, kernel developers can now remove devfs code piece by piece behind the scenes. No, it's not. Greg-KH (also a Gentoo developer, BTW) has posted patches to completely remove the devfs code for every kernel for the last few releases (starting with 2.6.11, I think). It _is_ going away, and it is going away very soon. David, udev works, and it works well. If you have problems migrating, post here and we will help you. But whining about devfs going away will fall on deaf ears. That horse died a very long time ago. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] compiling problems
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Richard Fish wrote: Probably not, because it isn't gcc that is failing...it is gtkdoc-mkhtml, and it is running out of memory. You can either merge gtk with USE=-doc, which will skip this step, or use MAKEFLAGS=-j1, which will run only one process at a time, and reduce your memory requirements by about half. That makes sense, since I only recently set MAKEFLAGS=-j2 (it was recommended, I think). RAM is 512M and swap is about 760M. Could this be the cause? Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Default kernel's PAGE_SIZE
Miguel wrote: Hi, im tunnig a postgresql server and i want to know what is the default value for kernel's PAGE_SIZE Is this a gentoo especific value or aplies to linux kernels in general, i mean, any distribution? This is a processor-specific value, and on x86 it's 4096 bytes. It's defined in the kernel header files. I don't know about other architectures. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dig
On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 04:08:01PM +, James wrote: Willie Wong wwong at Princeton.EDU writes: What package is the command `dig' in? equery belongs dig is a really nifty search tool except it doesn't work when bind-tools isn't ALREADY installed. =D I was trying to find out which package to emerge. Thanks all the same, W -- Fucking shit, man, this is ridiculous. Ben...this is what Princeton is like: (mimes delivering a beating with a large, blunt object.) Wham, wham, wham. (mimes shaking hand.) Here's your degree. Except the 'Whams' take four years. Urgh... ~DeathMech, Some Student. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 4 days, 9:23 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?
On 11/16/05, Jeff Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 10:05 am, Preston Hagar wrote: Although amarok is probably my favorite audio player, I have found it to be a little finicky. I usually find it works best with xine. I usually use a -arts -gstreamer xine so xine is the only engine available. I also usually have a -mysql -postgres because it seems silly to me to have a database running to listen to music. If you disable both of those, it just uses sqlite. I have also use -opengl becase at one time (they probably have fixed it by now, but I haven't checked) there was an issue with amarok, opengl, and nvidia cards. I don't use/watch any of the visualizations anyway so I have never seen the point. I make sure to add in musicbrainz since that is a nice service. So to sum up, my use flags are generally: -arts -gstreamer xine -mysql -postgres -opengl musicbrainz I know it isn't a direct solution to your problem, I just thought I would share my experiences.I use arts mysql opengl here and it runs fine.. Must be something else..The database is cool for dynamic mode.. I can create my own smartlist's.. I dont know how I listened to music without it before.. Its awesome..Jeff Yes, it must... I'm using these: media-sound/amarok-1.3.6 [1.2.4] +arts -debug -flac -gstreamer +kde -kdeenablefinal +mp3 +musicbrainz -mysql -noamazon +opengl -postgres -visualization +vorbis +xine -xinerama +xmms dont know what can be wrong... Thanks anyway! Fernando
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP (DISCLAIMER: Let me start off by saying that this is truly not a flame but more of a concern. So please do not flame me for stating my opinions/concerns.) SNIP Understood. I certainly didn't take it that way. I have been an avid Gentoo User for 2 and 1/2 years now. About the same as me. SNIP In the past I have always leaned toward ~x86 (I love bleeding edge). But since this was going to be a new install I decided to do the preferred method and set all ~x86 flags via /etc/portage/package.keywords for specific packages. Right. Now since we have the background we will get to the questions at hand. During this install I have run into nothing but problems. SNIP ... with a slight modification I am using LVM2 for /usr /usr/portage /opt /var /tmp /home (I figured I would take advantage of some setuid security procedures). Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot. So I installed everything according to the handbook and all went well until I restarted. Yes, but I've done FC installs that did the same thing. It's not limited to Gentoo. BIG SNIP --- IT'S ABOVE MY PAY GRADE So now I am waiting for the whole system to recompile using ~x86 (the so called Unstable packages) and I will see if that works or not. Bummer. The Gentoo install is a lot of work. To completely restart is painful. Was there really no other option? I don't remember you asking about this. Did I miss it? I am seriously reconsidering finding another OS to use, this whole headache has been totally ridiculous. I could see this if I would have emerged all of the unstable packages to begin with or even perform a Stage1 install after the developers decided to make the Stage3 the default. But I didn't I did everything according to the documentation (and I triple checked that I did not skip anything). So with all of this said if the developers do not start testing everything a little more thoroughly then I predict there will be a serious drop in the number of Gentoo Followers out there. Especially if a Gentoo Veteren has this hard of a time installing the operating system that I love. In some ways I agree. I have an AMD64 machine (I'm writing you from it) that has a LOT of packages as ~amd64 to make it usable. I recognize that this is newer hardware and I expected this would be required, but recently I've noticed portage getting hinky about ~x86 vs. ~amd64. My /etc/postage/package.use file is getting weird trying to keep up. Portage is trying to downgrade things that are marked ~x86. I change them to ~amd64 and it lets me keep them. Something feels wrong about that. But at least my system works. (mostly...) I have no complaints. Just concerns... When a branch is marked stable all of the packages in that branch should work, yes there will always be configuration glitches but the problems I have had during this install were not from configuration glitches. They are what looks like incompatible packages and numerous other things. If Gentoo is going to continue to grow then we as a community need to speak up about things like this. Well, yes and no. I don't think that 'stable' is the same as 'guaranteed'. None the less I agree with what I think is the sentiment of your statement. In some of the online polls it seems that Gentoo's popularity has dropped a bit lately. Personally I'm more and more impressed with it every day. It's only been on my AMD64 machine that I've seen many issues. I will admit that I have a big concern about an upcoming MySQL update that is probably going to break my whole TV network here. Due to my fear I haven't upgraded MySQL and will likely come back ranting myself sometime in December when I'm probably forced to do it. We'll see... ;-) Best of luck getting the problems worked out. cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities
kashani wrote: Antoine wrote: Hi, We are going to set up ssl on a webserver at work and I guess that means we need a certificate... does anyone have any useful alternatives to Verisign? Are they really worth the name? We are not going to be doing any monetary transactions but our clients are very security conscious (who isn't!) and I have no experience in these matters. I am certain the boss will want verisign, as he buys a lot of stuff just for the name but if I can offer him a comparable alternative at a fraction of the cost he may go for it. ... Thanks for all your suggestions. I think we will just go for a self-signed because, at the end of the day, all our clients know us, and trust us. Thanks again Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities
Remember that your web server must be properly configured (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/ssl/ssl_howto.html) in order to offer any real security. The howto says SGC is only available with verisign - is this true? Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Xorg compile errors [solved]
-Original Message- From: Richard Fish Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:10 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg compile errors On 11/15/05, Budd, Tracy wrote: - I have run memtest86+ and prime95 extensively to check for memory errors with no problems While memtest86 is useful for finding bad cells, it is cannot find memory timing issues. I have no experience with Prime95, but it seems like it would mostly stress the CPU and cache, without a lot of random memory access like a compiler does. I suggest http://people.redhat.com/dledford/memtest.html. You might have to make some slight edits for it to run on Gentoo. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Good idea. I will check that out. Regards, -Tracy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Turns out it was a memory problem :( Thank you. -Tracy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kdexdeltas
Hi, This only saves you space in your distfiles directory. Instead of having full tarballs for each release of KDE, you get the major release and then all the minor fixes in xdelta packages. z On 16/11/05, LostSon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All I was looking at some things tonight and noticed the use flag kdexdeltas. What is this use flag used for, thanks. -- LostSon -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Local dictionary in KDE?
On Monday 14 November 2005 23:26, abhay wrote: Hello, I would like to install a dictionary application in KDE that can be run without using internet. Though Kdict is available but it requires me to have a internet connection for its search; which I am unable to provide everytime. I have found some other good apps like jdictionary but they also require internet. I want something that can be run without having access to net. Please help. something like ding maybe? * app-text/ding Latest version available: 1.4 Latest version installed: 1.4 Size of downloaded files: 2,271 kB Homepage:http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~fri/ding/ Description: Tk based dictionary (German-English) (incl. dictionary itself but I do not know, if there are other languages available. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a lot longer than I originally intended it to be so if you want the jist of it skip to the end. (DISCLAIMER: Let me start off by saying that this is truly not a flame but more of a concern. So please do not flame me for stating my opinions/concerns.) Guess you won't get any flames, just considerable advices, cause we don't wanna loose a Gentooer :) I have been an avid Gentoo User for 2 and 1/2 years now. I have installed Gentoo on many different platforms including HPPA and Sparc, not too mention the countless x86 installs. I have never had a problem, every install has went smooth. I have done both Stage3 and Stage1 installs (I have always preferred a Stage1 install). Recently, I decided that it was time to reinstall due to the numerous packages that I had installed and different DE's / WM configurations, and I must admit that I have recently been diving into LVM2 and encryption (I figured that starting from scratch would be my best bet). In the past I have always leaned toward ~x86 (I love bleeding edge). But since this was going to be a new install I decided to do the preferred method and set all ~x86 flags via /etc/portage/package.keywords for specific packages. I would never even consider completely reinstall a working environment, specially one that installation and configuration is 90% of the work you'll ever have dealing with the machine (except maybe for hardware failures). Now since we have the background we will get to the questions at hand. During this install I have run into nothing but problems. I boot from the livecd just fine (if I append nopcmcia and dolvm2) and everything goes smooth. NOTE: I am performing this install step by step from the online handbook with a slight modification I am using LVM2 for /usr /usr/portage /opt /var /tmp /home (I figured I would take advantage of some setuid security procedures). Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot. So I installed everything according to the handbook and all went well until I restarted. You see, I'm one of those guys that think: if you got the livecd working, network, maybe video, sound or anything else with NO DISC, your system is gentooable. :) of course you may run into problems accourding to your config and special needs, it always happened to me, but hey, at least you know what you're doying, not like those easy, complete, fast and general installations that keeps LOTS of trash making your system crawl compared to a clean, wise and configurated environment. After restarting I noticed that ipw2200 did not load properly was posted in my boot mesg WTF. I distinctly remembered during the install that I waited until after I installed the kernel, then I went ahead and installed the external modules. (NOTE: I did not use the built in kernel modules for ipw2200 or ieee80211 I had read too many horror stories about incompatible versions of ipw2200-firmware and I have always had good luck with the external drivers) One other thing, instead of going for pure on the edge goodness of using a Nitro-esque kernel (one optimized for speed over stability) I decided to use Gentoo-sources again trusting the developers judgement. After searching through tons of articles regarding ipw2200 drivers not working with the latest Stable Gentoo-Sources I decided to go with the kernel drivers and give them a shot. I recompiled rebooted and low and behold the drivers still weren't working. After trying all sorts of different combinations Unstable versions of this stable versions of that. Nothing worked, so I proceeded to reboot back into the livecd and re-chroot into my system so I could get a network connection and install the Madwifi Drivers, for a pcmcia card that I have laying around. Also note that the Madwifi drivers are considered Unstable. I rebooted the computer and the drivers actually worked (Yea Unstable). So I got the network connection up, then I decided to go ahead and install X (I thought that it would be easier to troubleshoot the ipw drivers from a graphical environment copy, paste, multiple xterms.). Well I compiled and installed Xorg and compiled and installed nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx, and what do you think happened (btw I copied over a backed up xorg.conf from the last installation so I know that that conf file works and is correct) I went to startx...It kicked back saying screens were found but no usable configs..So down troubleshooting lane I went. I recompiled, verified I did not have agpgart / dri enabled in kernel, then with both in kernel, stable and unstable versions of nvidia-kernel / nvidia-glx, everything a no go.. I finally settled with using Xorg's nv driver. Now here I am with a really nice laptop (Sony S-460) but
Re: [gentoo-user] Local dictionary in KDE?
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 7:27 pm, Holly Bostick wrote: This does not suggest that sdcv actutally *has* these dictionaries contained within it. But likely whatever is missing can be found at the stardict site http://stardict.sourceforge.net/ Dictionaries would seem to be found at http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php Thanks alot for the links. That is exactly what I needed. I abandoned sdcv and installed WiseDict instead. Installed gcide and wordnet dictionaries and now WiseDict is sitting happily in the system tray monitoring my clipboard. It is a wonderful application I must say. Thanks once again. Abhay pgp1FCWFtSEJ3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 8:48 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Andmplayer does indeed honor the aspect-ratio. Sadly, you are forced to have the window in the right ratio (not like xine, where you can have the window in every ratio you like, and xine adds blavk lines where needed). mplayer -nokeepaspect file name But still - when I do my right-click-open with mplayer, gmplayer starts. And gmplayer ignores the aspect ratio. gmplayer is just the GUI part of mplayer and which imho needs a lot of work. On the other hand there is nothing better than the command line mplayer. Abhay pgp4p6nHsQR33.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
SNIP I use Gentoo to run all my boxen and I love it. That being said, I have ALWAYS done a stage1 install. Never had a single problem I couldn't fix. Then, suddenly, they switched everything to stage3 and removed a LOT of options from the Gentoo build process. I LIKED being able to modify the bootstrap script. I LIKED editing the ebuilds for certain important system packages during initial system build. Why have they now decided to force us to rebuild our systems if we want to tweak settings? Now I must use a larger hard disc for an install, as all ebuilds install userland binaries to /usr/bin, even if I want to install to /usr/local/netshare/bin as a network shared executable. This a VERY inconvenient, since some system packages (loggers, cron daemons) can be installed on a single server and referenced from other boxen to reduce dependency on hard disk installs. Just a rant here, but Gentoo used to be about choices. Now one of the biggest choices in the Gentoo universe has been taken away from the user. Is Gentoo becoming just another canned off-the-shelf *nix distro? Joshua Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?
On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 9:08 pm, Fernando Meira wrote: .libs/rawscope_impl.o(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTCN6Amarok13RawScope_implE4_N4Arts1 4StdSynthModuleE+0xb8): undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamEnd()' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[6]: *** [libamarokarts.la http://libamarokarts.la] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/amarok-1.3.6/work/amarok-1.3.6 /amarok/src/engine/arts/amarokarts' make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 (...) Looks like a problem in compiling with Arts. Try with -arts. Abhay pgpwUpZkO265C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500 Derek Tracy wrote: Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot. I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an instal on other architectures). Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook: Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore. WTF? When did this happen? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Vixiecron not working all the sudden
-Original Message- From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:14 AM Daevid Vincent wrote: But I don't think that will slove it, as the date of the file his Aug 11th... So that means it was running fine for several months with the wrong perms... is it running? I mean, ps ax shows it? Yes, it is running. Is there supposed to be more than one running? I haven't done anything with the server since last night's post (when I restared vixiecron after killing all the processes manually) daevid ~ # ps ax | grep cron 13415 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron 15019 ?S 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron 15023 ?Ss 0:00 /bin/bash -c test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons /usr/sbin/run-crons 15030 ?S 0:00 /bin/bash /usr/sbin/run-crons 26879 ?S 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/cron.daily/slocate 28850 pts/1S+ 0:00 grep cron My 'hourly email' script mailed me at 12:10, 1:10, 2:10 and 3:10 am and it's now noon and I've not received any others. I don't notice anything standing out in the logs... ipTeller.sh runs every 15 minutes and lets me know if my dynamic IP changed. crond # cat current | grep -v ipTeller | grep -v gate_news | grep -v 'test -x' Nov 16 00:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (/etc/init.d/ntp-client restart /dev/null) Nov 16 00:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Nov 16 00:09:29 [cron] (root) CMD (/sbin/hwclock --systohc /dev/null) Nov 16 00:10:01 [cron] (CRON) STARTUP (V5.0) - Last output repeated twice - Nov 16 01:00:02 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Nov 16 02:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) - Last output repeated twice - - Last output repeated twice - Nov 16 03:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Nov 16 03:01:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.daily) Nov 16 03:27:01 [cron] (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip) - Last output repeated twice - - Last output repeated twice - Nov 16 04:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) - Last output repeated twice - - Last output repeated twice - Nov 16 05:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Nov 16 06:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Nov 16 07:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Nov 16 08:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Nov 16 08:00:03 [cron] (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs) - Last output repeated twice - - Last output repeated twice - Nov 16 09:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Nov 16 09:00:02 [cron] (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/disabled) - Last output repeated twice - Nov 16 10:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) - Last output repeated twice - - Last output repeated twice - Nov 16 11:00:02 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Nov 16 12:00:02 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Nov 16 12:00:02 [cron] (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests) You had me at EHLO --E.Webb (10.04.05) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best video player
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:05:28 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: thanks, but that is pretty un-intuitive. xine uses arrow up/down for the speed... a combination where I do not need to span my fingers over half the keyboard.. there is a mechanism to change the keybindings to suit your choices. search the man page for -input. A list of events that can be configured, and commands that can be bound to them is obtainable like this: mplayer -input keylist mplayer -input cmdlist xine is couter intuitive for me as I am used to using the mplayer keybinding of up arrow for jump forward 1 minute. But mplayer also jumps forward with mouse wheel up, and backwards with mouse wheel down... the opposite of what I would expect. If you read a book, you read from top down.. so going downwards is forward. ;) in firefox ctrl-wheel button makes the font larger or smaller. (great late at night when tyour eyes are getting tired). in konqueror it also makes the font change size, but in the other direction. most frustrating! -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Solution to long-in to my system and/or check email while traveling
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:04:53 -0700 Joseph wrote: I could borrow any-body's in the family computer and use Knoppix (with knock and ssh) to log-in to my system or to do any Banking; as I wouldn't trust their Windows system. I think this would eliminate all the spywere and key-loggers if they had any on their systems. That will not defeat a hardware keylogger, ie a little device that sits between the keyboard and the computer. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
-Original Message- From: Nick Rout Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:12 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path? On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500 Derek Tracy wrote: Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot. I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an instal on other architectures). Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook: Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore. WTF? When did this happen? -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list This one caught me off guard as well. I am used to installing from a stage 1 tarball. When I recently installed to my new AMD64 machine, I was surprised to see this was no longer covered in the handbook. It was easily fixed with an emerge system though. -tracy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
Nick Rout wrote: I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an instal on other architectures). Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook: Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore. WTF? When did this happen? About a week or two ago and was heavily discussed on gentoo-doc IIRC. Here's a rough summary. stage1 is the cause of a number of circular dependency issues, it takes forever, the engineering and release team spends too much time on it, and the average Gentoo users get no benefit from doing a stage1 over a stage3. In order to get any benefit from stage1 you must edit the boot strap scripts in some way. Editting the boot strap scripts is not documented and not something general users should be mucking around in so we're going to drop everything, but stage3 on the CD. Or at least that was my interpretation. I stopped paying attention around this point, but there was talk of keeping a stage1 for devs or people who need it... though I don't think exactly what or where was ever fully hashed out. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:12, Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500 Derek Tracy wrote: Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot. I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an instal on other architectures). Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook: Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore. To be honest, this is the first time i see this. I always did stage 1 installs. Haven't done so in a while that's why I'm a little surprised about this. What exactly were the reasons for such a move? pgpFcARz5HFlg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:12, Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500 Derek Tracy wrote: Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot. I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an instal on other architectures). Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook: Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore. To be honest, this is the first time i see this. I always did stage 1 installs. Haven't done so in a while that's why I'm a little surprised about this. What exactly were the reasons for such a move? I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install most people end up rebuilding everything anyway within a few weeks. Very soon my Stage 3 and your Stage 1 are identical. The Stage 1 allows me to get the machine up and running sooner. Just my take on the question. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a lot longer than I originally intended it to be so if you want the jist of it skip to the end. (DISCLAIMER: Let me start off by saying that this is truly not a flame but more of a concern.So please do not flame me for stating my opinions/concerns.)Guess you won't get any flames, just considerable advices, cause we don't wanna loose a Gentooer :) I have been an avid Gentoo User for 2 and 1/2 years now.I have installed Gentoo on many different platforms including HPPA and Sparc, not too mention the countless x86 installs.I have never had a problem, every install has went smooth.I have done both Stage3 and Stage1 installs (I have always preferred a Stage1 install). Recently, I decided that it was time to reinstall due to the numerous packages that I had installed and different DE's / WM configurations, and I must admit that I have recently been diving into LVM2 and encryption (I figured that starting from scratch would be my best bet).In the past I have always leaned toward ~x86 (I love bleeding edge).But since this was going to be a new install I decided to do the preferred method and set all ~x86 flags via /etc/portage/package.keywords for specific packages.I would never even consider completely reinstall a working environment, specially one that installation and configuration is 90%of the work you'll ever have dealing with the machine (except maybefor hardware failures).The biggest reason for the reinstall was because in my contant playing around with DE's and WM's trying to find one that I completely liked. I had KDE, GNOME, E17, FVWM, OpenBOX (I think that is it) all on my system. In all of my toying around I found out a lot about myself, for 1 GUI applications make me work slower and FVWM was and is all I need to make me happy. So I could either unemerge KDE GNOME and the rest (which would surely leave all sorts of unneeded libs and things) or I could reinstall. To me reinstallation sounded a lot easier. Also note that this is the first time that I have had a really hard time getting Gentoo to work. (I will most likely never reinstall on this machine again.) Now since we have the background we will get to the questions at hand. During this install I have run into nothing but problems.I boot from the livecd just fine (if I append nopcmcia and dolvm2) and everything goes smooth.NOTE: I am performing this install step by step from the online handbook with a slight modification I am using LVM2 for /usr /usr/portage /opt /var /tmp /home (I figured I would take advantage of some setuid security procedures).Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install.I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot.So I installed everything according to the handbook and all went well until I restarted.You see, I'm one of those guys that think: if you got the livecdworking, network, maybe video, sound or anything else with NO DISC,your system is gentooable. :) of course you may run into problems accourding to your config and special needs, it always happened to me,but hey, at least you know what you're doying, not like those easy,complete, fast and general installations that keeps LOTS of trashmaking your system crawl compared to a clean, wise and configurated environment. After restarting I noticed that ipw2200 did not load properly was posted in my boot mesg WTF.I distinctly remembered during the install that I waited until after I installed the kernel, then I went ahead and installed the external modules.(NOTE: I did not use the built in kernel modules for ipw2200 or ieee80211 I had read too many horror stories about incompatible versions of ipw2200-firmware and I have always had good luck with the external drivers)One other thing, instead of going for pure on the edge goodness of using a Nitro-esque kernel (one optimized for speed over stability) I decided to use Gentoo-sources again trusting the developers judgement.After searching through tons of articles regarding ipw2200 drivers not working with the latest Stable Gentoo-Sources I decided to go with the kernel drivers and give them a shot.I recompiled rebooted and low and behold the drivers still weren't working.After trying all sorts of different combinations Unstable versions of this stable versions of that. Nothing worked, so I proceeded to reboot back into the livecd and re-chroot into my system so I could get a network connection and install the Madwifi Drivers, for a pcmcia card that I have laying around.Also note that the Madwifi drivers are considered Unstable.I rebooted the computer and the drivers actually worked (Yea Unstable).So I got the network connection up, then I decided to go ahead and install X (I thought that it would be easier to troubleshoot the ipw drivers from a graphical environment copy, paste, multiple
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500 Derek Tracy wrote: Part way through the online handbook I noticed that they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot. I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an instal on other architectures). Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook: Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore. WTF? When did this happen? The archived thread from the gentoo-releng list: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.releng/333 Note that it's not terribly difficult to use catalyst to build a stage1 from a stage3: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/catalyst/2.x/reference.xml Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install most people end up rebuilding everything anyway within a few weeks. Very soon my Stage 3 and your Stage 1 are identical. The Stage 1 allows me to get the machine up and running sooner. Just my take on the question. Cheers, Mark True that the installations become identical very soon. But what if I set up server using stage 1 and an up-to-date portage tree. After the installation is finished it'll sit around doing whatever it's supposed to do and I don't really touch it except for security related updates. Just an example where stage 1 was a nice option. Taking away such an option doesn't sound all too much like the gentoo way to me. pgpL1ivWPzUm4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
I couldn't have said it better myself.On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install most people end up rebuilding everything anyway within a few weeks. Very soon my Stage 3 and your Stage 1 are identical. The Stage 1 allows me to get the machine up and running sooner. Just my take on the question. Cheers, Mark True that the installations become identical very soon. But what if I set upserver using stage 1 and an up-to-date portage tree. After the installationis finished it'll sit around doing whatever it's supposed to do and I don't really touch it except for security related updates.Just an example where stage 1 was a nice option. Taking away such an optiondoesn't sound all too much like the gentoo way to me. -- -Derek Tracy[EMAIL PROTECTED]-
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:30:28 -0600 kashani wrote: Nick Rout wrote: I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an instal on other architectures). Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook: Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore. WTF? When did this happen? About a week or two ago and was heavily discussed on gentoo-doc IIRC. Here's a rough summary. stage1 is the cause of a number of circular dependency issues, it takes forever, the engineering and release team spends too much time on it, and the average Gentoo users get no benefit from doing a stage1 over a stage3. In order to get any benefit from stage1 you must edit the boot strap scripts in some way. Editting the boot strap scripts is not documented and not something general users should be mucking around in so we're going to drop everything, but stage3 on the CD. Or at least that was my interpretation. I stopped paying attention around this point, but there was talk of keeping a stage1 for devs or people who need it... though I don't think exactly what or where was ever fully hashed out. kashani Thanks for the info. I have only used stage 1 once, and it was for an i586 machine (FYI an epia eden (http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Eden_C3.2FEzra_.28Via_EPIA.29) This is because there weren't stage 3's available for i586, so I had to compile the lot from stage 1 (at least as i read the instructions at that point). Frankly I think that a stage 3 is ok 99% of the time, I am just surprised to see gentoo limiting choices, even for the other 1%. I am also surprised that it wasn't given wider publicity in the lead up to the change - this sort of thing should be referred to this list IMHO. This list is high enough volume without having to sub to gentoo-doc as well to pick up important changes. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install most people end up rebuilding everything anyway within a few weeks. Very soon my Stage 3 and your Stage 1 are identical. The Stage 1 allows me to get the machine up and running sooner. Just my take on the question. Cheers, Mark True that the installations become identical very soon. But what if I set up server using stage 1 and an up-to-date portage tree. After the installation is finished it'll sit around doing whatever it's supposed to do and I don't really touch it except for security related updates. Just an example where stage 1 was a nice option. Taking away such an option doesn't sound all too much like the gentoo way to me. Good points. I agree it doesn't seem like the Gentoo way to remove options, however, in response to Derek's original point about rising or fallign numbers of Gentoo new users it might be wise to make the default install Stage 3, thus making the newest users most likely more successful, and then create some (not so obvious) option to allow folks like you that have good reasons to do Stage 1 if they want it. I know not what I speak of as I cannot even imagine anymore why I'd want to do a Stage 1 install, but I do assume all that work must have some value to others. Take care, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
I also want to reiterate that if they are going to make a Stage3 install the default then make it a rock solid release. And in my opinion portage needs to be pruned not only of un-maintained packages but also of packages that conflict with others. Like I said before a Stable tree should be just that Stable. There is no reason someone should have to completely change to the Unstable branch when all of the programs that he / she wants are marked stable for that arch. On 11/16/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install most people end up rebuilding everything anyway within a few weeks. Very soon my Stage 3 and your Stage 1 are identical. The Stage 1 allows me to get the machine up and running sooner. Just my take on the question. Cheers, Mark True that the installations become identical very soon. But what if I set up server using stage 1 and an up-to-date portage tree. After the installation is finished it'll sit around doing whatever it's supposed to do and I don't really touch it except for security related updates. Just an example where stage 1 was a nice option. Taking away such an option doesn't sound all too much like the gentoo way to me.Good points. I agree it doesn't seem like the Gentoo way to remove options, however, in response to Derek's original point about risingor fallign numbers of Gentoo new users it might be wise to make thedefault install Stage 3, thus making the newest users most likely moresuccessful, and then create some (not so obvious) option to allow folks like you that have good reasons to do Stage 1 if they want it.I know not what I speak of as I cannot even imagine anymore why I'dwant to do a Stage 1 install, but I do assume all that work must have some value to others.Take care,Mark--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- - Derek Tracy[EMAIL PROTECTED]-
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
Mark Knecht wrote: Good points. I agree it doesn't seem like the Gentoo way to remove options, however, in response to Derek's original point about rising or fallign numbers of Gentoo new users it might be wise to make the default install Stage 3, thus making the newest users most likely more successful, and then create some (not so obvious) option to allow folks like you that have good reasons to do Stage 1 if they want it. I know not what I speak of as I cannot even imagine anymore why I'd want to do a Stage 1 install, but I do assume all that work must have some value to others. It appears that you can still do the equivalent of a Stage 1 install using the Stage 3 tarball - the Handbook points to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#stage12 which has instructions on how to re-bootstrap the system and rebuild with new compiler flags. -- Manuel A. McLure KE6TAW [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mclure.org ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law, no man may kill a cat. -- H.P. Lovecraft -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?
I nailed it on my system. I had some free time so installed gdb and ran amarok. Looks like if Retrieve similar artists is checked under Last.fm, it crashes amaroK. I unchecked the option and now it runs flawlessly. Check it in your case as well. Abhay pgpz44QaXHAhK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:50 pm, Derek Tracy wrote: That is what I was thinking when I switched to stable. From what I am seeing either my computer doesn't like stable code or stable does not mean stable anymore. But thats not what you said. I Quote: In the past I have always leaned toward ~x86 (I love bleeding edge). But since this was going to be a new install I decided to do the preferred method and set all ~x86 flags via /etc/portage/package.keywords for specific packages. This means your MIXING the two and is only recommended once the system is up. During an install, you should do one or the other, not start mixing and matching. HOWEVER, if you did set all to x86, and havent touched package.keyword, read the next paragraph. Stable is fine.. I really dont understand how some modules have ANY thing to do with being x86 or ~x86.. Modules are always finicky, no matter what linux distro you use.. You probably are just forgetting to compile in the kernel options you had before, that you do not now have. (Guessing of course). Sounds to me you just re-installed before making sure you had all your ducks in a row and blaming it on gentoo. I havent seen anything in your message that I can say, gentoo did it, and you didnt do it yourself.. It all really just sounds like configuration issues, that happens on all new install, no matter the distro, x86/~x86, or otherwise. Jeff pgpSicLjtDkbI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:55 pm, Benjamin Martin wrote: True that the installations become identical very soon. But what if I set up server using stage 1 and an up-to-date portage tree. After the installation is finished it'll sit around doing whatever it's supposed to do and I don't really touch it except for security related updates. Just an example where stage 1 was a nice option. Taking away such an option doesn't sound all too much like the gentoo way to me. They are not taking it away. They just dont support it, big difference.. We just went through all this not a few weeks ago, why are we going through this again? Jeff pgpgThL66IHyN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK launching Kmail = virus?
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 03:37 pm, abhay wrote: I nailed it on my system. I had some free time so installed gdb and ran amarok. Looks like if Retrieve similar artists is checked under Last.fm, it crashes amaroK. I unchecked the option and now it runs flawlessly. Check it in your case as well. Make sense why I never saw it. I would run that by the amarok folk so they can fix it.. Jeff pgp8PhiuHAsLj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a branch is marked stable all of the packages in that branch should work, I'm not sure this is always possible. Much of your complaint comes from the ipw2200 driver, which is new in 2.6.14. But the in-kernel version is several versions older than the external driver. So should 2.6.14 remain marked as unstable because of this one driver that works for some people, but not for others? Or because a specific externally maintained driver or package doesn't build against it? On my system, either the in-kernel or external drivers work fine. The only caveat is that I need firmware version 2.2 with the in-kernel drivers, and a different version for the external. If I am using the external version, the portage dependancy tree makes sure I have the right version of the firmware. But the kernel sources do not (and should not) depend upon the ipw2200-firmware package, so this is a case where I need to know the driver requirements. (Also, the kernel help specifies that the driver requires external firmware, although it doesn't specify what version.) Regarding the X.org issue, without an Xorg.0.log file, it is really impossible to say what the problem there is. It could be something as simple as your kernel configuration; for example leaving out I2C or AGP support could cause this. But in my view, you cannot take an existing xorg.conf file and expect it to work without any issues _without_ duplicating the same system configuration (kernel version, kernel config, and nvidia driver version). The fastest method of configuring X on a new system is to run X -configure, test the resulting configuration, and use that xorg.conf file. Yes, this would use the opensource x.org Nv driver, but it should definitely work for getting X up and running. If this doesn't work, then you have reason to complain. If the proprietary nvidia driver doesn't work with a particular kernel version, you can only complain to nvidia. I'm quite sure a binary-based distribution would have worked better for you in this case, only because nothing would have been upgraded or changed. Everything that worked before would have continued to work, just like everything that was broken before would have continued to be broken. It is the price of progress, IMO. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Kernel build no update grub
Updating the kernel today, I referenced that piece of the documentation and borrowed this command from it: genkernel --bootloader=grub all However, not only did it not update grub.conf but grub.conf disappeared entirely following the successful build. I did find this in /var/log/genkernel.log: [...] emerge.log rsnapshot_Home.log.6.gzsandbox fdisk.logrsnapshot_Home.log.7.gzscrollkeeper.log fdisk.log.1.gz rsnapshot_Home.log.8.gzsquid fdisk.log.2.gz rsnapshot_Home.log.9.gzsyslog fdisk.log.3.gz rsnapshot_Home.log_083105 syslog.0 fdisk.log.4.gz rsnapshot_Mail.log syslog.1.bz2 * initramfs-modules-2.6.14-gentoo-r2.cpio.gz * * Adding kernel to /boot/grub/grub.conf... * * Kernel compiled successfully! * * Required Kernel Parameters: * real_root=/dev/$ROOT * * Where $ROOT is the device node for your root partition as the * one specified in /etc/fstab * * If you require Genkernel's hardware detection features; you MUST * tell your bootloader to use the provided INITRAMFS file. Otherwise; * substitute the root argument for the real_root argument if you are * not planning to use the initrd... * WARNING... WARNING... WARNING... * Additional kernel cmdline arguments that *may* be required to boot properly... * add vga=791 splash=silent if you use a bootsplash framebuffer * Do NOT report kernel bugs as genkernel bugs unless your bug * is about the default genkernel configuration... * * Make sure you have the latest genkernel before reporting bugs. Note the line that says: * Adding kernel to /boot/grub/grub.conf... So whats going on here? Further I'm confused by the rest of it too. It says if I want hardware detection I MUST tell my bootloader to use the intitramfs blah blah , but no clue at all as to how one might do this. I'm pretty sure I need some new kind of grub.conf but what should it look like.. I've just appended what I think might be adequate to the original lines yeah I saved a backup.. default 1 timeout 05 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz Title=gentoo root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 root=/dev/ram0 linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 init=/linux ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED] initrd (hd0,0)/initramfs-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 Title=gentoo-2.6.14-r2 root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/ram0 linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 init=/linux ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED] initramfs (hd0,0)/initramfs-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 So am I in the ball park? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also want to reiterate that if they are going to make a Stage3 install the default then make it a rock solid release. And in my opinion portage needs to be pruned not only of un-maintained packages but also of packages that conflict with others. What conflicts? Please be specific. The best would be to report any such conflicts to bugs.gentoo.org. The gentoo developers do not have the time to test every possible combination of packages. So they test what they can, and rely on us to tell them when problems arise. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Jeff Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:50 pm, Derek Tracy wrote: That is what I was thinking when I switched to stable. From what I am seeing either my computer doesn't like stable code or stable does not mean stable anymore.But thats not what you said. I Quote:In the past I have always leaned toward ~x86 (I love bleeding edge). Butsince this was going to be a new install I decided to do the preferred method and set all ~x86 flags via /etc/portage/package.keywords for specificpackages. This means your MIXING the two and is only recommended once the system is up.During an install, you should do one or the other, not start mixing andmatching. HOWEVER, if you did set all to x86, and havent touched package.keyword, read the next paragraph.I did not set any of the flags as I wanted to get the system up and running first. What I was doing was pointing out that if I needed to set the ~x86 flag on any packages then I would do so via the above stated file. Stable is fine.. I really dont understand how some modules have ANY thing to do with being x86 or ~x86..Modules are always finicky, no matter what linuxdistro you use.. You probably are just forgetting to compile in the kerneloptions you had before, that you do not now have. (Guessing of course). Been there and checked that. Confirmed to not be the case. Sounds to me you just re-installed before making sure you had all your ducksin a row and blaming it on gentoo. I havent seen anything in your messagethat I can say, gentoo did it, and you didnt do it yourself.. It all really just sounds like configuration issues, that happens on all new install, nomatter the distro, x86/~x86, or otherwise.I would have to disagree with you on this. I do not believe that it is a config issue I beleive that many of the x86 packages still do not play well with each other, that is what I am saying needs fixed. Jeff-- - Derek Tracy[EMAIL PROTECTED]-
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
Yes udev works, however works well is something else entirely. Udev has been the bane of my life a number of times - at least with devfs I had a chance of working it out. It often seems like we take two steps back with every new approach, and take a lot of pain just to get back to where we were. But I digress. BillK On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 09:26 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 11/16/05, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 10:19 schrieb ext brullo nulla: David, udev works, and it works well. If you have problems migrating, -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a branch is marked stable all of the packages in that branch should work,I'm not sure this is always possible.Much of your complaint comes from the ipw2200 driver, which is new in 2.6.14.But the in-kernelversion is several versions older than the external driver.So should2.6.14 remain marked as unstable because of this one driver that works for some people, but not for others?Or because a specific externallymaintained driver or package doesn't build against it?On my system, either the in-kernel or external drivers work fine.Theonly caveat is that I need firmware version 2.2 with the in-kerneldrivers, and a different version for the external.If I am using theexternal version, the portage dependancy tree makes sure I have theright version of the firmware.But the kernel sources do not (and should not) depend upon the ipw2200-firmware package, so this is acase where I need to know the driver requirements.(Also, the kernelhelp specifies that the driver requires external firmware, although it doesn't specify what version.)What I am complaining about is that neither of the drivers will work. Regarding the X.org issue, without an Xorg.0.log file, it is reallyimpossible to say what the problem there is.It could be something assimple as your kernel configuration; for example leaving out I2C or AGP support could cause this.But in my view, you cannot take an existing xorg.conf file and expectit to work without any issues _without_ duplicating the same systemconfiguration (kernel version, kernel config, and nvidia driver version).The fastest method of configuring X on a new system is torun X -configure, test the resulting configuration, and use thatxorg.conf file.Yes, this would use the opensource x.org Nv driver,but it should definitely work for getting X up and running.If thisdoesn't work, then you have reason to complain.I have tried both ways. My reasoning for taking my old config was originally for the Modeline info. The only reason that I arbitrarily threw it into the newly built system was because the X -configure did not work (even after I switched the dev/mouse to /dev/input/mice) I get the same error with both of the configs. If the proprietary nvidia driver doesn't work with a particular kernelversion, you can only complain to nvidia. I have had that happen in the past and would not ever think about blaming the Gentoo Developers for NVidias work. I'm quite sure a binary-based distribution would have worked betterfor you in this case, only because nothing would have been upgraded orchanged.Everything that worked before would have continued to work,just like everything that was broken before would have continued to be broken.It is the price of progress, IMO.-Richard--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- - Derek Tracy[EMAIL PROTECTED]-
[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel build no update grub
Updating the kernel today, I referenced that piece of the documentation and borrowed this command from it: I'm pretty sure I need some new kind of grub.conf but what should it look like.. I've just appended what I think might be adequate to the original lines yeah I saved a backup.. default 1 timeout 05 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz Title=gentoo root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 root=/dev/ram0 linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 init=/linux ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED] initrd (hd0,0)/initramfs-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 Typos in original message corrected below Title=gentoo-2.6.14-r2 root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/ram0 ^kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 init=/linux ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED] initramfs (hd0,0)/initramfs-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 ^initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 So am I in the ball park? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:44:49 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP I use Gentoo to run all my boxen and I love it. That being said, I have ALWAYS done a stage1 install. Never had a single problem I couldn't fix. Then, suddenly, they switched everything to stage3 and removed a LOT of options from the Gentoo build process. [snip] Now one of the biggest choices in the Gentoo universe has been taken away from the user. Is Gentoo becoming just another canned off-the-shelf *nix distro? No choices have been removed, from the build process, nothing has been taken away from the user. all that has changed is that the Gentoo Handbook describes a Stage 3 installation, Stage 1 is still possible, the instructions have been moved to the FAQ. I have always done Stage 1 installs in the past, but my last install was from Stage 3, because I needed the system working in less than two hours, which it was. Then I was able to tweak my USE flags and CFLAGS and rebuild the system to the same as I'd have got from Stage 1, but with the advantage of being able to do some work on the computer at the same time. Unless I was doing something very specialised, I think I'll stick with Stage 3 plus rebuild in future. -- Neil Bothwick Deja Moo: The feeling that you heard this bull somewhere before. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
Derek Tracy wrote: I also want to reiterate that if they are going to make a Stage3 install the default then make it a rock solid release. And in my opinion portage needs to be pruned not only of un-maintained packages but also of packages that conflict with others. Like I said before a Stable tree should be just that Stable. There is no reason someone should have to completely change to the Unstable branch when all of the programs that he / she wants are marked stable for that arch. My understanding is that you're way more likely to have issues starting from a stage1, I know I have. Moving general users to stage3 is an attempt to eliminate variables and streamline the testing that goes into a release. By streamlining the testing you can increase the actual amount of testing you can do without increasing the overhead. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Dig
Willie Wong wwong at Princeton.EDU writes: What package is the command `dig' in? equery belongs dig is a really nifty search tool except it doesn't work when bind-tools isn't ALREADY installed. =D I was trying to find out which package to emerge. Yes it would require you to search or have somebody search on a system that has the package already installed. I have one of my gentoo sytems with tons of stuff install, the rest are fairly targeted as to what's installed. Which brings me to another point. Maybe the developers could run an equery covering thousands of commands (sub-packages if you like) against the installation base and parse it out into a human browsable form. Debian has such an index, and I often visit to see what software can do what. Unless I've missed the wiki, there's really no place at all to read about the various pacakges available on Gentoo. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dig
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:23:50 + (UTC) James wrote: Debian has such an index, and I often visit to see what software can do what. Unless I've missed the wiki, there's really no place at all to read about the various pacakges available on Gentoo. James Read the archives. This is impractical because any given package may or may not install a particular file depending on what USE flags are applied to the compilation process. And i doubt that there is a system in existence that has every package installed - for a start some packages block others. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
On 11/16/05, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes udev works, however works well is something else entirely. Udev has been the bane of my life a number of times - at least with devfs I had a chance of working it out. It often seems like we take two steps back with every new approach, and take a lot of pain just to get back to where we were. That's probably because you don't really see the value of udev. Looking at my 10-local.rules, I have rules that: 1. ensure that whatever wireless card I decide to plugin becomes wlan, instead of eth0, ath0, or wlan0. 2. Makes all of my usb media devices (flash disks, 2.5in hard disks, 3.5in HDs, and media reader) show up at persistent nodes, instead of sdX devices where X depends on what devices are connected and the order that they are turned on. Neither of the above is possible with a static configuration or devfs. Yes, there are problems from time to time (like when all of the devfs compatibility nodes were removed!). But I've never had a problem debugging what udev was doing (set udev_log in udev.conf and watch /var/log/messages). -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel build no update grub
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 16:25 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Updating the kernel today, I referenced that piece of the documentation and borrowed this command from it: genkernel --bootloader=grub all I've never trusted it... However, not only did it not update grub.conf but grub.conf disappeared entirely following the successful build. for reasons like this! Note the line that says: * Adding kernel to /boot/grub/grub.conf... for me, it just copied my windows grub entry, and duplicated that exactly, instead of doing anything to any linux entries... Further I'm confused by the rest of it too. It says if I want hardware detection I MUST tell my bootloader to use the intitramfs blah blah , but no clue at all as to how one might do this. You don't need the hardware detection, it doesn't mean that you won't be able to use, say, usb; it just means that gentoo will attempt to probe and load lots of modules for you. This is useful for an install disk which runs on multiple machine types, but for me, I don't use it. I only have to add two modules to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. But you can of course do it that way. It looks kind of cool. All you need is title root ... kernel ... initrd ... (You don't even need all of that, but this is the genkernel way.) From what you've posted, I think your grub.conf should look something like this (I don't split the lines, so this should be 4 lines only including the title): title Gentoo 2.6.15_rc1 root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED] CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 initrd /initramfs-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 Make sure your display can actually handle [EMAIL PROTECTED] default 1 timeout 05 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz Title=gentoo root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 root=/dev/ram0 ^ You don't need the (hd0,0) here if you specify root (hd0,0) linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 think this line shouldn't be there... init=/linux ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda5 try leaving out the init= and ramdisk= for now video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED] You seem to have a newline here. Remove it! initrd (hd0,0)/initramfs-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 ^ don't need (hd0,0) here either So am I in the ball park? looks good, did you actually try it? what happened? HTH, and post back with results!! -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities
If these clients *know* you, and *trust* you, and know anything about security, there is no reason why you couldn't get away with a self-signed cert. If not, http://www.instantssl.com/ I can second this. I will be buying my mail server certs through InstantSSL in a few weeks. So far, I've heard nothing but good things about them, and their prices are excellent. (No, I don't work there.) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:44:49 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I use Gentoo to run all my boxen and I love it. That being said, I | have ALWAYS done a stage1 install. Never had a single problem I | couldn't fix. Then, suddenly, they switched everything to stage3 and | removed a LOT of options from the Gentoo build process. Pff, no we didn't. You can still do a stage1 if you really want to, but it's no longer necessary. See, stage1s exist because when stages were built with stager, using a stage1 was the only way to get a complete correct vdb. These days we use catalyst, not stager, and even stage3s come with a correct vdb. There's no longer a need for a stage1. If you still want all the choice, which is entirely reasonable for some people, then install from a stage3, customise whatever you want and then do emerge -e world twice. You'll get the same end result, and not have all the problems with circular dependencies. [ Note: looks like I'm missing half this thread because certain jackasses are posting HTML messages to the list. You'd think people would've learned by now... ] -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Look! Shiny things!) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am complaining about is that neither of the drivers will work. What doesn't work? Does the module build? Does it load? What errors do you get? Does it work if you run the same kernel version and driver you used before? If the combination of a specific kernel version and driver doesn't work with your card, report it via bugs.gentoo.org (and preferably also the ipw2200 bug tracker). I have tried both ways. My reasoning for taking my old config was originally for the Modeline info. The only reason that I arbitrarily threw it into the newly built system was because the X -configure did not work (even after I switched the dev/mouse to /dev/input/mice) I get the same error with both of the configs. Post the /var/log/xorg.0.log file with the error (in a new thread please!), so we can help figure out what the problem is. Lots of people are using nvidia graphics boards with Gentoo, with the proprietary drivers, so in the absence of any actual data, the assumption has to be it is something specific with your configuration. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have to disagree with you on this. I do not believe that it is a config issue I beleive that many of the x86 packages still do not play well with each other, that is what I am saying needs fixed. Again, be specific please. Give us actual error messages or log entries so we see what problems you are running into. Although I run completely ~x86 (along with lots of unmasked stuff), many (most?) of the people here are running the stable tree, without the major conflicts you are claiming. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On 11/16/05, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ Note: looks like I'm missing half this thread because certain jackasses are posting HTML messages to the list. You'd think people would've learned by now... ] We've tried educating about the evils of HTML (and top-posting). It always degenerates into a flame war. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] highpoint raid
I have a athlon xp 3000 processor and a DFI LanParty KT400A Socket A Motherboard, 1 gig of ddr ram. I think i am having kernel config problems with it. I am using the highpoint raid. when i installed linux i had to use the 2004.3 disk with the smp kernel. I'm not really sure what the differences between the kernels are. i know i couldnt get the 2005 live disk to work i couldnt get it to work it always seems to blow after highpoint drivers come online. but they seem to work ok. there isnt any obvious error messages. im not trying to get the raid to raid i just want to be able to see and use the drives. I know it works with the 2004.3 smp kernel the booting stops in exactly the same place when i try to boot the 2005.0 disk as when i try to boot my own system. I know i can get lilo to boot it I couldnt get grub to load the kernel, it hangs early not sure but lilo works fine. if cedega or wine could play eq2 it would bother me more.
Re: [gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:50:14 +1000 Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that there was a bug in the mga drivers some time ago, and it appears that the xorg drivers have incorporated the patches I have seen during my google searches. I had one running on Gentoo last year, before the motherboard on an 800 MHz Athlon Slot-A died. X ran fine. I do wonder what to do about framebuffers, though. Tiring of the battle, after many years of avoiding framebuffers, Have you tried just using - vesa? Or vga? It should work. Turning on everything is always a sure way to break a kernel. Description: when scrolling the buffer, some lines are doubled, some are lost, and using Firefox at least, when I type Ctrl-L, the frame displays properly until it is scrolled again. I have found descriptions of similar issues on the Inet, but nothing that has helped get my system to work properly. Does this symptom ring a bell with anyone? Generally, it's because the gfx card can't refresh from it's internal memory fast enough. As I recall, the Mystique had an optional memory module, which I have on mine. Perhaps its just that your trying to use too high a resolution and hitting the cards performance limits? With due respect, save up your pennies and get a current Gfx card. Should be around US$42. Sure, that's a months wages in some parts of the world. But still - throwing a massively powerful processor in a system with a dead-end Gfx card is kind of wasteful, unless you're making this thing into a server. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
