Re: [gentoo-user] A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/16/05, Tom Eastman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a tool that will allow me to find *all* files that aren't owned
> by any package, so that I can then decide what to do with them?

It should be fairly simple to generate such a list.  You can generate
a list of all regular files that are owned by an installed package
with something like:

cd /var/db/pkg; find . -name CONTENTS -exec cat {} \; | grep ^obj |
awk '{print $2}' | sort

And then a list of all regular files on your system with:

find / -type f | grep -v -e "^/home" -e "^/tmp" -e "^/var/db" -e
"^/var/tmp" | sort

Then you just have to diff the two lists to find things that are not
owned by a package...

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[gentoo-user] opengl brightness setting

2005-12-16 Thread Glenn Enright
Does anyone know if there is somewhere I can configure opengl settings? All my 
opengl applications are extremely dark and I have to chnage setings just for 
those apps. 

For example mplayer runs most reliably on my system with opengl except I am 
constantly having to adjust the brightness/contrast. Same with Unreal 
Tournament. Window or fullscreen make no diference its the rendering as far 
as I can tell. 

nvidia-settings has an option to adjust xv overlays and some other nifty 
things but not those options. Any suggestions welcome.
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Re: [gentoo-user] A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-16 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 06:24:37PM +1300, Penguin Lover Tom Eastman squawked:
> Is there a tool that will allow me to find *all* files that aren't owned
> by any package, so that I can then decide what to do with them?
> Obviously skipping directories such as /home/.  Then I can delete
> everything that doesn't look critical, hopefully without losing my stuff
> in places like /boot or /etc either :-)

There was this script by Benjamin Braatz called findcruft. 

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=254197&highlight=findcruft

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Port named runs on

2005-12-16 Thread Mike Kenny

darren kirby wrote:

quoth the Michael Sullivan:


How would I find out what port named runs on (so I could open that port
on my firewall)?



Port 53, see /etc/services
-d

Alternately, as root execute netstat -pant

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Re: [gentoo-user] A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-16 Thread Steven Ringwald

Tom Eastman wrote:


Hey all,

Sorry about any imagery conjured up by the subject line... I've been
running the same gentoo system on my computer for several years now...
keeping it relativey updated, but over time there's always cruft that
builds up, stuff that gets left behind during upgrades, or re-installs.
  Packages that don't change version for a long time, and don't get
recompiled with the latest compiler, etc etc and so on and so forth.

So what I want to do is give my computer a complete clean-out.  What I
really CAN'T be bothered doing is a complete format and re-install!

One idea I've had is to delete almost every entry in my 'world' file,
and then do an 'emerge depclean'.  That would be pretty cool, empty out
a huge amount of stuff, and then start re-installing at my leisure.

But what that *wouldn't* do is delete all the files in random places
that aren't owned by any particular package.  This would be a good thing
to do when spring cleaning, as it were.

Is there a tool that will allow me to find *all* files that aren't owned
by any package, so that I can then decide what to do with them?
Obviously skipping directories such as /home/.  Then I can delete
everything that doesn't look critical, hopefully without losing my stuff
in places like /boot or /etc either :-)

Then I think I would do an emerge -e system, and then start re-adding
applications I wanted.

What do you think?  Does anyone have any ideas about good ways of
'refreshing' my gentoo system?  All suggestions appreciated :-)

Thanks!



Well, what I would do is:

% etc-update
(to make sure that there aren't any cruft files lying around)

and then:

% emerge -eD world

to rebuild the entire system.

You could also do:

emerge --newuse -D world

to just upgrade things that haven't been built since you change USE 
options.


or if you have gentoolkit installed,

revdep-rebuild

to verify that all packages have all the correct dependancies.

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[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Eastman
Also on the subject of cleaning things out and keeping things somewhat
up-to-date... what do you suppose would be a good way of seeing how old
some packages are on your system?

It would be cool if you could list every package based on when it was
installed... so the stuff that is *reall* old can be freshened by a
re-installation (with whatever my current compiler is)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGL Server Error

2005-12-16 Thread Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
Sorry, bad mistake.
To make it up:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Ati if you own ATI card

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml if you have a Nvidia card


2005/12/17, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales schreef:
> > Why would a CD burning program ask for OpenGL?
> >
> >
> Not k3/b/, k3/d/;
>
> eix k3d
> * media-gfx/k3d
>  Available versions:  ~0.2.5.4 ~0.4.4.0 ~0.4.4.2 ~0.5.0.33 ~0.5.0.34
>  Installed:   none
>  Homepage:http://k3d.sourceforge.net
>  Description: K-3D is a free 3D modeling, animation, and
> rendering system.
>
>
> >
> > 2005/12/16, AJ Spagnoletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >>I have just finished emerging k3d and I am getting an error when I try
> >>to run the program.
> >>When I try to run the program I get the following error.
> >>
> >>"ERROR: Could not connect to an OpenGL Server. Shutting down"
> >>
>
> Obvious question first; what video card, and what drivers? Is there an
> OpenGL (3D hardware acceleration) server available at all?
>
> Meaning, do the drivers for your video card provide OpenGL?
>
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[gentoo-user] A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Eastman
Hey all,

Sorry about any imagery conjured up by the subject line... I've been
running the same gentoo system on my computer for several years now...
keeping it relativey updated, but over time there's always cruft that
builds up, stuff that gets left behind during upgrades, or re-installs.
   Packages that don't change version for a long time, and don't get
recompiled with the latest compiler, etc etc and so on and so forth.

So what I want to do is give my computer a complete clean-out.  What I
really CAN'T be bothered doing is a complete format and re-install!

One idea I've had is to delete almost every entry in my 'world' file,
and then do an 'emerge depclean'.  That would be pretty cool, empty out
a huge amount of stuff, and then start re-installing at my leisure.

But what that *wouldn't* do is delete all the files in random places
that aren't owned by any particular package.  This would be a good thing
to do when spring cleaning, as it were.

Is there a tool that will allow me to find *all* files that aren't owned
by any package, so that I can then decide what to do with them?
Obviously skipping directories such as /home/.  Then I can delete
everything that doesn't look critical, hopefully without losing my stuff
in places like /boot or /etc either :-)

Then I think I would do an emerge -e system, and then start re-adding
applications I wanted.

What do you think?  Does anyone have any ideas about good ways of
'refreshing' my gentoo system?  All suggestions appreciated :-)

Thanks!

Tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGL Server Error

2005-12-16 Thread Holly Bostick
Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales schreef:
> Why would a CD burning program ask for OpenGL?
> 
> 
Not k3/b/, k3/d/;

eix k3d
* media-gfx/k3d
 Available versions:  ~0.2.5.4 ~0.4.4.0 ~0.4.4.2 ~0.5.0.33 ~0.5.0.34
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://k3d.sourceforge.net
 Description: K-3D is a free 3D modeling, animation, and
rendering system.


> 
> 2005/12/16, AJ Spagnoletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>>I have just finished emerging k3d and I am getting an error when I try
>>to run the program.
>>When I try to run the program I get the following error.
>>
>>"ERROR: Could not connect to an OpenGL Server. Shutting down"
>>

Obvious question first; what video card, and what drivers? Is there an
OpenGL (3D hardware acceleration) server available at all?

Meaning, do the drivers for your video card provide OpenGL?

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Re: [gentoo-user] use fstab to mount my partition for normal user

2005-12-16 Thread prolibertine
> Explore the options 'rw' and 'users'
>
thanks for your reply

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGL Server Error

2005-12-16 Thread Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
Why would a CD burning program ask for OpenGL?



2005/12/16, AJ Spagnoletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have just finished emerging k3d and I am getting an error when I try
> to run the program.
> When I try to run the program I get the following error.
>
> "ERROR: Could not connect to an OpenGL Server. Shutting down"
>
> After some googling I am left clueless on how to fix this error. Can
> anyone point me in the right direction for my search or offer some
> help on how to fix this? Thanks.
>
> AJ
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Re: [gentoo-user] x86 setup-script

2005-12-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 02:14 +0100, Andy Stern wrote:
> I had the idea to write a setup-script for a x86-installation, 
> thats what i got:
> 
> www.trustop.org/gensetup/
> 
> what do you think

I don't know if one exists or not, because I haven't installed gentoo
lately (only updated it for the last few years :)

I had a look at your script - you've named it .tar.gz, but it's only a
tar!  I think you forgot to gzip it!

Doing a quick google search, I found
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/ and there is also
another graphical installer someone was working on, but I can't remember
where.

>From the gentoo installer page:
Along with the GTK frontend, there is also a dialog-based frontend. This
is useful for doing remote installs via SSH. gli-dialog also supports
some things that the GTK frontend doesn't and vice versa...

So I would ask: What is the purpose of your script?  Do you want it to
eventually be a great solve-all text installer for beginner and expert?
Or just a simple install?

> should i continue or is the gentoo-setup to complex for such a script?

Definately continue - if only to further your understanding of bash /
gentoo / installing.  Even if the only purpose it to provide another
option to the gentoo installer - that's good enough because diversity is
great!

I definately don't think gentoo setup is too complex for a script.  If
you can do it by hand, you can do it in a script :)  so go for it!

[PS - you seem to have made this post by replying to a different thread
in the mailing list - not everybody will see it, as some people collapse
or ignore threads they're not interested in]

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[gentoo-user] x86 setup-script

2005-12-16 Thread Andy Stern
I had the idea to write a setup-script for a x86-installation, 
thats what i got:

www.trustop.org/gensetup/

what do you think, should i continue or is the gentoo-setup to complex for such 
a script?

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Re: [gentoo-user] use fstab to mount my partition for normal user

2005-12-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/16/05, prolibertine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i am using fstab to mount my win32 partition ,but only root user can
> write to win32 vfat partition,i want my normal user can write win32
> fat partition,who can tell me how to write the fstab. thanks
>

Explore the options 'rw' and 'users'

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[gentoo-user] use fstab to mount my partition for normal user

2005-12-16 Thread prolibertine
i am using fstab to mount my win32 partition ,but only root user can
write to win32 vfat partition,i want my normal user can write win32
fat partition,who can tell me how to write the fstab. thanks



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Re: [gentoo-user] ogg-vorbis tools and cups

2005-12-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:42:55 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote:

> Sorry, meant vorbis-tools

vorbis-tools does not use the cups USE flag, try
grep cups /usr/portage/media-sound/vorbis-tools/*.ebuild


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Re: [gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part.

2005-12-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:04:50 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:

> Then you're still missing something in the kernel.  Turn on anything 
> vaguely fattish and dossish in the kernel config.  Also maybe try 
> to mount it with -t fat32.  And please paste the exact command and 
> output given.

You could also compile vfat and fat as modules, then the output from
"modprobe -v vfat" may give some clues.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Desktop Environment - KDE 3.5 creating some yucky looking windows... [SOLVED]

2005-12-16 Thread Jeff
Dude, you are the MAN! Worked like a charm. Thanks much.

Merry, uh, Happy uh... uhm

Well, you get the drift...


Luis Ortiz wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> 
>>Hey all.
>>
>>KDE 3.5 - amazing. Really really nice job.
>>
>>Sometimes, though, I get these funky looking chunky black lines in my
>>apps - including Kopete, Konqueror, etc.
>>
>>Here's a screenie of what I'm talking about:
>>
>>http://home.comcast.net/~jmg_071769/images/krappykopete.png
>>
>>Anyone have an idea of what might cause this?
>>
>>Thanks all, Gentoo is the shizz!!!
>>
>>-Jeff
> 
> 
> Check the color settings.
> 
> Open Control Center > Appearance & Themes > Colors
> 
> Under "Widget Color" select "Alternate Background in Lists" from the drop down
> box. If it's really dark, then just change it to something close to the
> Application Background color. Hopefully that's what's causing that.
> 
> -Luis
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[gentoo-user] OpenGL Server Error

2005-12-16 Thread AJ Spagnoletti
I have just finished emerging k3d and I am getting an error when I try
to run the program.
When I try to run the program I get the following error.

"ERROR: Could not connect to an OpenGL Server. Shutting down"

After some googling I am left clueless on how to fix this error. Can
anyone point me in the right direction for my search or offer some
help on how to fix this? Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't emerge realplayer

2005-12-16 Thread James Ausmus
> https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1589/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm

> To connect to helixcommunity.org insecurely, use
> `--no-check-certificate'.

> And how do you use `--no-check-certificate'?

Like this:

#wget --no-check-certificate
https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1589/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm
#cp RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm /usr/portage/distfiles/.
#emerge realplayer

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Re: [gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part.

2005-12-16 Thread Benno Schulenberg
maxim wexler wrote:
> I created a fat32, ID 'b' partition w/fdisk.
>
> Formatted w/ mkdosfs -F 32

Please show the output of cfdisk or parted.

> But can't be mounted in gentoo: unknown filesytem type
> 'vfat'. In fact the same error occurs w/ -t vfat, -t
> auto or no specified fs at all.

Then you're still missing something in the kernel.  Turn on anything 
vaguely fattish and dossish in the kernel config.  Also maybe try 
to mount it with -t fat32.  And please paste the exact command and 
output given.

Also try creating a dos file system on a dummy file and mounting it 
on a loop device and see if that works.  And try creating and using 
a fat16 file system instead.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Desktop Environment - KDE 3.5 creating some yucky looking windows...

2005-12-16 Thread Luis Ortiz
Jeff wrote:
> Hey all.
> 
> KDE 3.5 - amazing. Really really nice job.
> 
> Sometimes, though, I get these funky looking chunky black lines in my
> apps - including Kopete, Konqueror, etc.
> 
> Here's a screenie of what I'm talking about:
> 
> http://home.comcast.net/~jmg_071769/images/krappykopete.png
> 
> Anyone have an idea of what might cause this?
> 
> Thanks all, Gentoo is the shizz!!!
> 
> -Jeff

Check the color settings.

Open Control Center > Appearance & Themes > Colors

Under "Widget Color" select "Alternate Background in Lists" from the drop down
box. If it's really dark, then just change it to something close to the
Application Background color. Hopefully that's what's causing that.

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[gentoo-user] OT - Interpretting apache2's log files

2005-12-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
Can anyone point me to a guide of the different fields
in /var/log/apache2/access_log.  One of my projects for Christmas
vacation is writing a PHP version of webalizer that's more customized to
my needs.  To do that I need to understand the fields that Apache writes
to its log files...

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[gentoo-user] Desktop Environment - KDE 3.5 creating some yucky looking windows...

2005-12-16 Thread Jeff
Hey all.

KDE 3.5 - amazing. Really really nice job.

Sometimes, though, I get these funky looking chunky black lines in my
apps - including Kopete, Konqueror, etc.

Here's a screenie of what I'm talking about:

http://home.comcast.net/~jmg_071769/images/krappykopete.png

Anyone have an idea of what might cause this?

Thanks all, Gentoo is the shizz!!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Two boots?

2005-12-16 Thread Shawn Singh
I'm sorry, but what do you mean when you say that it goes through two
boot cycles? Are you saying that when you need to reboot the machine it
will come up, then reboot itself or that it will start the boot
process, but not complete successfully, which would require you to boot
again?

ShawnOn 12/16/05, Alan E. Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My dual opteron box runs gentoo nicely.  However, it ALWAYS takes twoboot cycles to boot up.  Is there some issue I might need to knowabout?  Is this one boot per cpu?Thanks for any ideas,Alan
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Port named runs on

2005-12-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 10:54 -0800, kashani wrote:
> Michael Sullivan wrote:
> > How would I find out what port named runs on (so I could open that port
> > on my firewall)?
> > 
> 
> port 53 udp/tcp
> 
> However if your DNS server is internal I don't see why you'd need to 
> open anything on the firewall.
> 
> kashani

I'd like to make the server public.  

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[gentoo-user] (WAS OT - Port named runs on)

2005-12-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 18:48 +, Stroller wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:25 pm, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> 
> > How would I find out what port named runs on (so I could open that port
> > on my firewall)?
> 
> It normally runs on port 53, unhelpfully labelled "domain" in 
> /etc/services (a file which is otherwise & normally useful for 
> grepping).
> 
> Stroller.
> 

I found it.  It is port 53.  Now I have a new problem.  I tried to list
my DNS server (that I've been working on this week) as an optional third
DNS server for my domain at my registrar's website.  I have a record for
ns.espersunited.com in my DNS setup on my server box.  The problem is
that nobody knows who ns.espersunited.com is because my current DNS
hosting service (Yahoo SmallBusiness) doesn't allow entry of NS records
in their customer DNS settings and my registrar (1accredited.com) won't
accept an IP address as a nameserver.  I might try listing
bullet.espersunited.com as a nameserver (ns.espersunited.com has a CNAME
record pointing to bullet.espersunited.com), but I'm not sure it will
work.  Any suggestions of how to get my DNS server noticed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Port named runs on

2005-12-16 Thread kashani

Michael Sullivan wrote:

How would I find out what port named runs on (so I could open that port
on my firewall)?



port 53 udp/tcp

However if your DNS server is internal I don't see why you'd need to 
open anything on the firewall.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Port named runs on

2005-12-16 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Michael Sullivan:
> How would I find out what port named runs on (so I could open that port
> on my firewall)?

Port 53, see /etc/services
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Port named runs on

2005-12-16 Thread Bill Roberts
On 12:25 Fri 16 Dec , Michael Sullivan wrote:
> How would I find out what port named runs on (so I could open that port
> on my firewall)?
> 
grep domain /etc/services

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Port named runs on

2005-12-16 Thread Stroller


On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:25 pm, Michael Sullivan wrote:


How would I find out what port named runs on (so I could open that port
on my firewall)?


It normally runs on port 53, unhelpfully labelled "domain" in 
/etc/services (a file which is otherwise & normally useful for 
grepping).


Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cups and virtual/X11

2005-12-16 Thread Bill Roberts
On 18:49 Fri 16 Dec , Rumen Yotov wrote:
> On (16/12/05 10:57), Bill Roberts wrote:
> > When I try to upgrade to the latest stable version of CUPS, portage trys to
> > drag in X windows.
> > 
> > I'm not sure if this is caused by the changes happening in preparation for
> > the new version of xorg, or perhaps changes in the cups ebuild, which has
> > seen some changes in USE variables.
> > 
> > I meandered around b.g.o for a while, but did't find anything relevant.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Bill Roberts
> Hi,
> Did the same (cups upgrade) yesterday.
> New cups wanted to install two additional packages - xpdf & motif.
> In my case "xpdf" had "motif X" as USE-flags, so it wanted to emerge motif 
> too, i have X.
> In your case it's X.
> Removed "motif" with "-motif" in package.use.
> Check xpdf's USE flags and put "-X" for xpdf in package.use.
> HTH.Rumen
> 

Rumen

You nailed the problem. Thanks for the assist.

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't emerge realplayer

2005-12-16 Thread maxim wexler



> > 
> Hi,
> Easier just to get the binary via a web-browser and
> put it in /usr/portage/distfiles.
> Or search for FETCH_COMMAND or similar where you
> point which download manager to use.
> Don't remember where this setting was. Check install
> docs IIRC.
> HTH.Rumen

Thanks, realplayer is here

https://helixcommunity.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=154

Slightly different than the URL given in the emerge
command.

I was at the site earlier but didn't notice that the
realplayer stuff is at the bottom of the page;
everthing else is helix.

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[gentoo-user] OT - Port named runs on

2005-12-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
How would I find out what port named runs on (so I could open that port
on my firewall)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't emerge realplayer

2005-12-16 Thread Ognjen Bezanov

Rumen Yotov wrote:


On (16/12/05 09:56), maxim wexler wrote:
 


Hello everybody,

Any others run into this problem?

reflex pindar # emerge -v realplayer
Calculating dependencies ...done!
   


emerge (1 of 1) media-video/realplayer-10.0.6 to /
Downloading
 


https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1589/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm
--03:50:19-- 
https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1589/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm

  =>
`/usr/portage/distfiles/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm'
Resolving helixcommunity.org... 207.188.25.135
Connecting to
helixcommunity.org|207.188.25.135|:443... connected.
ERROR: Certificate verification error for
helixcommunity.org: unable to get local issuer
certificate
To connect to helixcommunity.org insecurely, use
`--no-check-certificate'.
Unable to establish SSL connection.
!!! Couldn't download
RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm. Aborting.

-mw

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Hi,
Easier just to get the binary via a web-browser and put it in 
/usr/portage/distfiles.
Or search for FETCH_COMMAND or similar where you point which download manager 
to use.
Don't remember where this setting was. Check install docs IIRC.
HTH.Rumen
 

I have tried that with no avail, it still tries to download the version 
from the site.  Unless I did it wrong, either way its worth a shot.




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[gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part.

2005-12-16 Thread maxim wexler
Hello everybody,

I'm recycling this former subject hoping it'll catch
the eye of some worthy gentoo afficianado.

I created a fat32, ID 'b' partition w/fdisk.

Formatted w/ mkdosfs -F 32

Partition is visible from windows: Properties -> FAT32

But can't be mounted in gentoo: unknown filesytem type
'vfat'. In fact the same error occurs w/ -t vfat, -t
auto or no specified fs at all.

Yes, ide-disk and vfat support is IN the kernel.

mount has no problem w/ ext2, reiserfs or NTFS.

There are no messages in the logs.

-mw

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't emerge realplayer

2005-12-16 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (16/12/05 09:56), maxim wexler wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Any others run into this problem?
> 
> reflex pindar # emerge -v realplayer
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> >>> emerge (1 of 1) media-video/realplayer-10.0.6 to /
> >>> Downloading
> https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1589/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm
> --03:50:19-- 
> https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1589/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm
>=>
> `/usr/portage/distfiles/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm'
> Resolving helixcommunity.org... 207.188.25.135
> Connecting to
> helixcommunity.org|207.188.25.135|:443... connected.
> ERROR: Certificate verification error for
> helixcommunity.org: unable to get local issuer
> certificate
> To connect to helixcommunity.org insecurely, use
> `--no-check-certificate'.
> Unable to establish SSL connection.
> !!! Couldn't download
> RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm. Aborting.
> 
> -mw
> 
> And how do you use `--no-check-certificate'?
> 
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Hi,
Easier just to get the binary via a web-browser and put it in 
/usr/portage/distfiles.
Or search for FETCH_COMMAND or similar where you point which download manager 
to use.
Don't remember where this setting was. Check install docs IIRC.
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Re: [gentoo-user] can't emerge realplayer

2005-12-16 Thread Ognjen Bezanov

maxim wexler wrote:


Hello everybody,

Any others run into this problem?

reflex pindar # emerge -v realplayer
Calculating dependencies ...done!
 


emerge (1 of 1) media-video/realplayer-10.0.6 to /
Downloading
   


https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1589/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm
--03:50:19-- 
https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1589/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm

  =>
`/usr/portage/distfiles/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm'
Resolving helixcommunity.org... 207.188.25.135
Connecting to
helixcommunity.org|207.188.25.135|:443... connected.
ERROR: Certificate verification error for
helixcommunity.org: unable to get local issuer
certificate
To connect to helixcommunity.org insecurely, use
`--no-check-certificate'.
Unable to establish SSL connection.
!!! Couldn't download
RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm. Aborting.

-mw

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Yeah, it stopped me from updating my system properly, until I put 
realplayer into /etc/portage/package.mask (i.e. prevent realplayer from 
ever being installed).


Never found a proper solution to the problem though, so Im looking at 
this thread with interest.


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[gentoo-user] strangeness on my Gateway

2005-12-16 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Hi list,

I am having a real strange problem on my gateway/firewall;
I am using it sharing internet with iptables. masquerating ips; from
all my internal network I can access internet; from my gateway I can
access the internal network, but when I try from the gateway reach
external network I simply can´t  host return valid IP adresses
 I am lost; does someone can give me a hint what iptables rules
should me messing with my gateway,


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[gentoo-user] can't emerge realplayer

2005-12-16 Thread maxim wexler
Hello everybody,

Any others run into this problem?

reflex pindar # emerge -v realplayer
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) media-video/realplayer-10.0.6 to /
>>> Downloading
https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1589/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm
--03:50:19-- 
https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1589/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm
   =>
`/usr/portage/distfiles/RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm'
Resolving helixcommunity.org... 207.188.25.135
Connecting to
helixcommunity.org|207.188.25.135|:443... connected.
ERROR: Certificate verification error for
helixcommunity.org: unable to get local issuer
certificate
To connect to helixcommunity.org insecurely, use
`--no-check-certificate'.
Unable to establish SSL connection.
!!! Couldn't download
RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm. Aborting.

-mw

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Re: [gentoo-user] ogg-vorbis tools and cups

2005-12-16 Thread maxim wexler


--- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:18:16 -0800 (PST)
> maxim wexler wrote:
> 
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > I notice emerge ogg-vorbis insists on taking cups
> > along with it. emerge info reveals cups flag _is_
> > being used. But why use it then? What does
> printing
> > have to do with playing ogg files. Why not go
> through
> > the flags and install everything they point to?
> That
> > would make as much sense as installing printer
> drivers
> > when audio tools were called for. I've run emerge
> lots
> > of times on the present OS and cups was never
> > requested until now. Oh, and another thing: I
> don't
> > have cups in my make.conf. Doesn't make.conf
> override
> > the defaults?
> 
> There doesn't appear to be a package named
> ogg-vorbis on my system, or
> in portage:

Sorry, meant vorbis-tools

> 
>
http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=ogg-vorbis
> 
> So it makes your question a little difficult to
> answer.
> 
> However you can tarce dependencies by use of the
> --tree or -t switch for
> emerge:
> 
> emerge -pvt ogg-vorbis
> 
> might tell you what is dragging in cups. (well it
> would if there were
> such a package). Then you can read the ebuild of the
> package that is
> dependent on cups top find out why.
> 
> USE flags are inherited from a number of places, all
> cumulative, with
> make.conf only being your preferences. Your profile
> governs what is
> added before make.conf adds its bits.
> 
> > 
> > -mw
> > 
> > -mw
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging gnome on ppc64 problem

2005-12-16 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
On (16/12/05 09:40), Kumar Golap wrote:
> Good day all,
> 
> Has any body tried to emerge gnome on a ppc64 system (hardware is G5 dual cpu)
> 
Better try ppc/ppc64 mailing list, IIRC there's such gentoo list.
> I am having trouble when its trying to emerge  eel.
> It gives the compilation error below...
> 
> Any clue or ideas of how i can either fix this or bypass this.
> 
> megatonnes thanks as usual,
> 
> Kumar
> 
> 
> 
> TED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
> -DMENU_I_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE -O2 -pipe -mcpu=970 -mpowerpc64
> -maltivec -mabi=altivec -MT eel-mime-extensions.lo -MD -MP -MF
> .deps/eel-mime-extensions.Tpo -c eel-mime-extensions.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o
> .libs/eel-mime-extensions.o
>  powerpc64-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..
> -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Eel\" -I.. -DORBIT2=1 -pthread
> -I/usr/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
> -I/usr/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
> -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
> -I/usr/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2
> -I/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0
> -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gnome-vfs-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/include/libbonobo-2.0
> -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-module-2.0 -I/usr/include/libglade-2.0
> -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/libgnome-2.0
> -I/usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/include/libbonoboui-2.0
> -I/usr/include/gnome-menus -I/usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0
> -I/usr/include/startup-notification-1.0 -DDATADIR=\"/usr/share\"
> -DSOURCE_DATADIR=\"../data\" -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"
> -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
> -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DMENU_I_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE -O2
> -pipe -mcpu=970 -mpowerpc64 -maltivec -mabi=altivec -MT
> eel-open-with-dialog.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/eel-open-with-dialog.Tpo -c
> eel-open-with-dialog.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/eel-open-with-dialog.o
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:55:23: menu-tree.h: No such file or directory
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:515: error: parse error before '*' token
> eel-open-with-dialog.c: In function `compare_applications':
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:518: error: `a' undeclared (first use in this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:518: error: (Each undeclared identifier is
> reported only once
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:518: error: for each function it appears in.)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:519: error: `b' undeclared (first use in this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:519: warning: passing arg 1 of `g_utf8_collate'
> makes pointer from integer without a cast
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:519: warning: passing arg 2 of `g_utf8_collate'
> makes pointer from integer without a cast
> eel-open-with-dialog.c: At top level:
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:523: error: parse error before '*' token
> eel-open-with-dialog.c: In function `get_all_applications_from_dir':
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:529: error: `list' undeclared (first use in
> this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:530: error: `directory' undeclared (first use
> in this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:530: warning: passing arg 2 of `g_slist_concat'
> makes pointer from integer without a cast
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:532: warning: assignment makes pointer from
> integer without a cast
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:534: error: `MenuTreeDirectory' undeclared
> (first use in this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:534: error: `subdir' undeclared (first use in
> this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c: In function `get_all_applications':
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:549: error: `MenuTree' undeclared (first use in
> this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:549: error: `tree' undeclared (first use in
> this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:550: error: `MenuTreeDirectory' undeclared
> (first use in this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:550: error: `root' undeclared (first use in
> this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c: In function `eel_open_with_dialog_add_items_idle':
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:591: error: `MenuTreeEntry' undeclared (first
> use in this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:591: error: `entry' undeclared (first use in
> this function)
> eel-open-with-dialog.c:595: warning: passing arg 1 of `strlen' makes
> pointer from integer without a cast
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Re: [gentoo-user] cups and virtual/X11

2005-12-16 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (16/12/05 10:57), Bill Roberts wrote:
> When I try to upgrade to the latest stable version of CUPS, portage trys to
> drag in X windows.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is caused by the changes happening in preparation for
> the new version of xorg, or perhaps changes in the cups ebuild, which has
> seen some changes in USE variables.
> 
> I meandered around b.g.o for a while, but did't find anything relevant.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Bill Roberts
Hi,
Did the same (cups upgrade) yesterday.
New cups wanted to install two additional packages - xpdf & motif.
In my case "xpdf" had "motif X" as USE-flags, so it wanted to emerge motif too, 
i have X.
In your case it's X.
Removed "motif" with "-motif" in package.use.
Check xpdf's USE flags and put "-X" for xpdf in package.use.
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[gentoo-user] emerging gnome on ppc64 problem

2005-12-16 Thread Kumar Golap
Good day all,

Has any body tried to emerge gnome on a ppc64 system (hardware is G5 dual cpu)

I am having trouble when its trying to emerge  eel.
It gives the compilation error below...

Any clue or ideas of how i can either fix this or bypass this.

megatonnes thanks as usual,

Kumar



TED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DMENU_I_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE -O2 -pipe -mcpu=970 -mpowerpc64
-maltivec -mabi=altivec -MT eel-mime-extensions.lo -MD -MP -MF
.deps/eel-mime-extensions.Tpo -c eel-mime-extensions.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o
.libs/eel-mime-extensions.o
 powerpc64-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..
-DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Eel\" -I.. -DORBIT2=1 -pthread
-I/usr/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
-I/usr/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2
-I/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0
-I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gnome-vfs-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/include/libbonobo-2.0
-I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-module-2.0 -I/usr/include/libglade-2.0
-I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/libgnome-2.0
-I/usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/include/libbonoboui-2.0
-I/usr/include/gnome-menus -I/usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0
-I/usr/include/startup-notification-1.0 -DDATADIR=\"/usr/share\"
-DSOURCE_DATADIR=\"../data\" -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"
-DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DMENU_I_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE -O2
-pipe -mcpu=970 -mpowerpc64 -maltivec -mabi=altivec -MT
eel-open-with-dialog.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/eel-open-with-dialog.Tpo -c
eel-open-with-dialog.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/eel-open-with-dialog.o
eel-open-with-dialog.c:55:23: menu-tree.h: No such file or directory
eel-open-with-dialog.c:515: error: parse error before '*' token
eel-open-with-dialog.c: In function `compare_applications':
eel-open-with-dialog.c:518: error: `a' undeclared (first use in this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:518: error: (Each undeclared identifier is
reported only once
eel-open-with-dialog.c:518: error: for each function it appears in.)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:519: error: `b' undeclared (first use in this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:519: warning: passing arg 1 of `g_utf8_collate'
makes pointer from integer without a cast
eel-open-with-dialog.c:519: warning: passing arg 2 of `g_utf8_collate'
makes pointer from integer without a cast
eel-open-with-dialog.c: At top level:
eel-open-with-dialog.c:523: error: parse error before '*' token
eel-open-with-dialog.c: In function `get_all_applications_from_dir':
eel-open-with-dialog.c:529: error: `list' undeclared (first use in
this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:530: error: `directory' undeclared (first use
in this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:530: warning: passing arg 2 of `g_slist_concat'
makes pointer from integer without a cast
eel-open-with-dialog.c:532: warning: assignment makes pointer from
integer without a cast
eel-open-with-dialog.c:534: error: `MenuTreeDirectory' undeclared
(first use in this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:534: error: `subdir' undeclared (first use in
this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c: In function `get_all_applications':
eel-open-with-dialog.c:549: error: `MenuTree' undeclared (first use in
this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:549: error: `tree' undeclared (first use in
this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:550: error: `MenuTreeDirectory' undeclared
(first use in this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:550: error: `root' undeclared (first use in
this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c: In function `eel_open_with_dialog_add_items_idle':
eel-open-with-dialog.c:591: error: `MenuTreeEntry' undeclared (first
use in this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:591: error: `entry' undeclared (first use in
this function)
eel-open-with-dialog.c:595: warning: passing arg 1 of `strlen' makes
pointer from integer without a cast

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Re: [gentoo-user] hal emerge conflict [SOLVED]

2005-12-16 Thread Dale

Mrugesh Karnik wrote:


On Friday 16 December 2005 18:55, Dale wrote:

 


This is funny.  I have gnome-vfs installed and KDE 3.5 with the new
hal.  I wonder why it worked for me?

Dale
   




I had to emerge >gnome-vfs-2.12* with KDE 3.5 and >hal-0.5*

Mrugesh
 

I think you are right.  Maybe that is where gnome-vfs came from.  I did 
a gcc upgrade about the same time so it is a bit muddy. 


Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help correcting my DNS configuration

2005-12-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 08:19 -0800, Jonathan Nichols wrote:
> Michael Sullivan wrote:
> > I need help setting up my network's DNS configuration.  I tried to
> > subscribe myself to the bind-user mailing list (using the address at the
> > bottom of the bind docs README file, but I saw this in the log: 
> > 
> > Dec 15 17:51:15 bullet sm-mta[29432]: jBFNpCvf029430:
> > to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > (1000/100), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=esmtp, pri=120297,
> > relay=mx.sth1.isc.org. [192.228.89.21], dsn=4.2.0, stat=Deferred: 450
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for
> > 180 seconds (see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help)
> > 
> 
> 
> You're not even running your own public DNS! Not according to the root 
> name servers anyway..
> 
> http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=espersunited.com
> 
> Your NS records at the parent servers are:
> 
> yns1.yahoo.com. [66.218.71.205] [TTL=172800] [US]
> yns2.yahoo.com. [216.109.116.20] [TTL=172800] [US]
> 
> [These were obtained from m.gtld-servers.net]
> 
> So, yeah, that's going to be a big problem right there. :-)
> 

It's a local setup.  I don't even know if my ISP will allow me to run a
public DNS server.  My last ISP didn't.  This is purely
intra-espersunited.com so that when the cable Internet goes out (which
it frequently does) my applications which require knowing what host
they're running on.  They don't seem to be smart enough to look
at /etc/hosts.  Some people on one of my Linux lists suggested that if I
set up DNS for my network that shouldn't be a problem anymore...

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help correcting my DNS configuration

2005-12-16 Thread Jonathan Nichols

Michael Sullivan wrote:

I need help setting up my network's DNS configuration.  I tried to
subscribe myself to the bind-user mailing list (using the address at the
bottom of the bind docs README file, but I saw this in the log: 


Dec 15 17:51:15 bullet sm-mta[29432]: jBFNpCvf029430:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(1000/100), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=esmtp, pri=120297,
relay=mx.sth1.isc.org. [192.228.89.21], dsn=4.2.0, stat=Deferred: 450
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for
180 seconds (see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help)




You're not even running your own public DNS! Not according to the root 
name servers anyway..


http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=espersunited.com

Your NS records at the parent servers are:

yns1.yahoo.com. [66.218.71.205] [TTL=172800] [US]
yns2.yahoo.com. [216.109.116.20] [TTL=172800] [US]

[These were obtained from m.gtld-servers.net]

So, yeah, that's going to be a big problem right there. :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] cups and virtual/X11

2005-12-16 Thread Stroller


On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:57 pm, Bill Roberts wrote:


When I try to upgrade to the latest stable version of CUPS, portage 
trys to

drag in X windows the cups ebuild, which has
seen some changes in USE variables.


Pay tell, what does `emerge -pv cups say? With this information we can 
tell you if the problem is USE related.


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Re: [gentoo-user] cups and virtual/X11

2005-12-16 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 16 December 2005 10:57 am, Bill Roberts wrote:
> When I try to upgrade to the latest stable version of CUPS, portage
> trys to drag in X windows.

Please post the results of
emerge -pvt cups

That will tell you the dependency chain that brings in X, if you know 
how to read it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] hal emerge conflict [SOLVED]

2005-12-16 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
On Friday 16 December 2005 18:55, Dale wrote:

> This is funny.  I have gnome-vfs installed and KDE 3.5 with the new
> hal.  I wonder why it worked for me?
>
> Dale


I had to emerge >gnome-vfs-2.12* with KDE 3.5 and >hal-0.5*

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[gentoo-user] Re: Backups

2005-12-16 Thread reader
Paweł Madej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
>> Thanks all for the answers until now;
>> What i am looking for is to backup 3 servers, and a critical issue
>> workstation.
>> 
> I think that you should test Bacula. that is very scalable app to
> backup from different sources to different media.
>
> http://www.bacula.org

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[gentoo-user] cups and virtual/X11

2005-12-16 Thread Bill Roberts
When I try to upgrade to the latest stable version of CUPS, portage trys to
drag in X windows.

I'm not sure if this is caused by the changes happening in preparation for
the new version of xorg, or perhaps changes in the cups ebuild, which has
seen some changes in USE variables.

I meandered around b.g.o for a while, but did't find anything relevant.

Any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] traffic shaping and p2p

2005-12-16 Thread Jondar Falcon
>From the sounds of things it looks like this is a problem with network
latency, not any issue with his computer.  One of the first things
that should be done to help would be adjust the settings in Azureus for
your specific up/dl speeds.  This is a pretty good guide to get
started on that. 
http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/Good_settings The other thing
I would recommend doing is using the plugin "Auto Speed".  This
plugin will automatically adjust your dl & ul speeds according to
the network latency.  Note, If your router blocks or rejects ICMP
then you will not be able to use the plugin.


[gentoo-user] Re: Istanbul - missing theoraenc

2005-12-16 Thread James
Ow Mun Heng  wdc.com> writes:


> > > Where can I get theoraenc? I've already emerged gst-plugins-theora but
> > > no dice.

> > libtheora may contain the theora encoder you are looking for:

> Already tried that. No dice either

> > otherwise, all I found was code, no ready to install package.
> Thanks.


This link:
http://lists.helixcommunity.org/pipermail/xiph-cvs/2005-May.txt

Shows this line:
RCS file: /cvsroot/xiph/theoraenc/theoraagent.cpp,v

which suggest that 'theoraenc' is avalable  via cvs from 
the xiph project.

I'm very much interested in encoders, theora centric or not.

Where did you read about 'theoraenc'? Is it indeed an
encoder, as 'enc' suggest?

If you find working or interesting code, drop me a line.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2005-12-16 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
thanks.


On 12/16/05, Paweł Madej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> > Thanks all for the answers until now;
> >
> > What i am looking for is to backup 3 servers, and a critical issue 
> > workstation.
> >
> I think that you should test Bacula. that is very scalable app to backup
> from different sources to different media.
>
> http://www.bacula.org
>
> Greets
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Re: [gentoo-user] mone on the KEYWORD USE front

2005-12-16 Thread Dale

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



So is there a more elegant solution than doggedly running 
emerge -v kde until all packages needing unmasking have been

revealed and entered into /etc/portage/package.keywords?

 


Well, you could ask someone to share theirs.  LOL  Look at this thread:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-407352.html

That may help a bit.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] hal emerge conflict [SOLVED]

2005-12-16 Thread Dale

Glenn Enright wrote:


On Friday 16 December 2005 10:24, Richard Fish wrote:
 


Since you do not use gnome, you probably don't care whether gnome-vfs
supports hal or not:

echo "gnome-base/gnome-vfs -hal" >>/etc/portage/package.use

-Richard
   



Of course! :) Simple elegant fix. Thanks for your insight.

 

This is funny.  I have gnome-vfs installed and KDE 3.5 with the new 
hal.  I wonder why it worked for me?


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Re: [gentoo-user] traffic shaping and p2p

2005-12-16 Thread Stroller


On Dec 15, 2005, at 7:15 pm, Holly Bostick wrote:


Matthias Langer schreef:


Now, what i want is the same for p2p apps - give them
as much bandwidth they can reasonably get but don't let them slow down
firefox, ssh etc.


In the case of Azureus specifically, your problem is actually not with
Azureus, but with Java ...
You might consider aliasing Java to run at a "good" niceness


Hi Holly,

Matthias seems to have confused the issue with his "bandwidth niceness" 
analogy.


I believe that his problem are with saturation of his broadband 
connection, in which case he'd get the same problem even if Azureus was 
running on a different PC from his web-browser. Matthias wants to give 
p2p maximum bandwidth & have the router sort it out so that he gets no 
latency on other connections - this is what traffic-shaping does.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2005-12-16 Thread Paweł Madej

Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:

Thanks all for the answers until now;

What i am looking for is to backup 3 servers, and a critical issue workstation.

I think that you should test Bacula. that is very scalable app to backup 
from different sources to different media.


http://www.bacula.org

Greets
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Re: [gentoo-user] traffic shaping and p2p

2005-12-16 Thread Stroller


On Dec 15, 2005, at 5:05 pm, Matthias Langer wrote:


Well, i use azureus - and of course i know that upload-speed can be
limited - which is maybe in fact the best solution to my problem.
...  for p2p apps - give them
as much bandwidth they can reasonably get but don't let them slow down
firefox, ssh etc. Because i want this setup just for my homenetwork, it
would perfectly suffice if packages get their priorities by examining
port-numbers. And because i want to at least partially understand what
i'm doing i would prefer a simple and clean setup.


I haven't used it yet, but my understanding of traffic-shaping is that 
it's exactly what you want. I believe that other quality-of-service 
mechanisms may require applications to be QoS aware (setting a QoS bit 
in the packet header).


You're absolutely right in that reducing the bandwidth of the p2p app 
isn't the ideal way to achieve what you want - I find latency in 
browsing & surfing with BitTorrent consuming only 60% - 70% of my 
upload - it doesn't help that other peers are continually making 
requests of you. If you lower the bandwidth consumption in Azureous 
then you have to remember to up it again when you go to bed - traffic 
shaping WILL allow you to permanently maximise your p2p bandwidth, with 
the ROUTER reducing it only when your priority services send packets.



I know that in
principle the neccessairy steps to do what i wannt can be found in the
'Packet Shaping HOWTO'.  By the way,
there are many different packet shedulers in the kernel - and the HOWTO
only explains the HTP-scheduler. What about the other schedulers - can
they be usefull for my purposes too - and if yes, how can they be
configured and used ?


No idea. I hope you'll give us feedback when you've discovered more.

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables / ipp2p

2005-12-16 Thread ddup1
Try this :

emerge -s ipp2p 

emerge show you your ipp2p module.

in fact iptables is just command line utility to set rules, modules are
not part of iptables itself, modules for iptables are extra module or kernel 
inside module.


On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 12:09:58PM +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> uwix ~ # iptables -m ipp2p -help
> iptables v1.3.4: Couldn't load match `ipp2p':/lib/iptables/libipt_ipp2p.so: 
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> 
> uwix ~ # emerge --pretend --verbose iptables
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild   R   ] net-firewall/iptables-1.3.4  -extensions +ipv6 -static 0 kB
> 
> How can I make it build libipt_ipp2p.so as well? Is it that "-extensions" 
> flag?
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Software RAID Advice Needed

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Burwell




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

  If a disk fails,
your system would likely crash (due to the swap device), but would
reboot in a degraded mode (no swap, slow performance, etc).
  

You could avoid that by not using RAID for swap. Instead, use four
separate swap partitions, one on each drive. As long as they all have
the same priority, the kernel will share swap duties between them
equally.

  
   
If you make more swap partitions on more physical drives with the same
priority, it is the same as swap on raid0: system strips swap across
drives. And if some drive crashes and swap partition on that drive has
been used, very probably system crashes too. But then reboots at least
with remaining swap partitions...
  


Yes, although there's a posibility of an 'endless crash/reboot'
scenereo here, if the errors are 'soft' (e.g. not drive just
vanishing).  For instance, a few bad sectors develop on one of your
swap partitions, the kernel can't read them, and panic/reboots.  The
system comes back up, the same swaps are used, and it happens again,
over and over until you edit the bad partition out of the fstab.

In a redundant RAID situation, I'm presuming that a bad sector or two
would result in the RAID driver detaching the bad drive, and chugging
along in degraded mode, where if this happened in a distrubuted swap
situation, it's already 'too late', since the sectors are lost and the
kernel would probably panic.


  
There's no real benefit to using RAID for swap, unless you are
limited on RAM and use swap a lot, when RAID0 may help.

  
  
There is some benefit, if you use raid1 for swap. In such a case
even drive failure does not cause system crash, because swap space
is mirrored too. But raid1 slightly degrades swap performance...
  


This is exactly why I'm doing RAID1 on swap.  If one drive goes poof, my system stays up.  Based on what this server is going to do, it should rarely use much swap, so swap performance isn't a priority for me.  Plus, as you say, I believe the performance hit on swap writes (reads should actually be faster) should wind up being only a bit slower than if you were swapping to a single drive.


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[gentoo-user] iptables / ipp2p

2005-12-16 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks,

uwix ~ # iptables -m ipp2p -help
iptables v1.3.4: Couldn't load match `ipp2p':/lib/iptables/libipt_ipp2p.so: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


uwix ~ # emerge --pretend --verbose iptables

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] net-firewall/iptables-1.3.4  -extensions +ipv6 -static 0 kB

How can I make it build libipt_ipp2p.so as well? Is it that "-extensions" 
flag?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Software RAID Advice Needed

2005-12-16 Thread jarry
>> If a disk fails,
>> your system would likely crash (due to the swap device), but would
>> reboot in a degraded mode (no swap, slow performance, etc).
> 
> You could avoid that by not using RAID for swap. Instead, use four
> separate swap partitions, one on each drive. As long as they all have
> the same priority, the kernel will share swap duties between them
> equally.
 
If you make more swap partitions on more physical drives with the same
priority, it is the same as swap on raid0: system strips swap across
drives. And if some drive crashes and swap partition on that drive has
been used, very probably system crashes too. But then reboots at least
with remaining swap partitions...

> There's no real benefit to using RAID for swap, unless you are
> limited on RAM and use swap a lot, when RAID0 may help.

There is some benefit, if you use raid1 for swap. In such a case
even drive failure does not cause system crash, because swap space
is mirrored too. But raid1 slightly degrades swap performance...

Jarry

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Re: [OT] how to make Bootable DVD/CDs [Was] Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2005-12-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:40:32 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

> how can one create bootable CDs/DVDs? Is there a simple way to transfer
> GRUB into the DVD/CDs? Or would "dd" of the /boot partition transfer the
> whole thing??

I created a rescue system, containing all the tools I need by following
this guide: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-244837.html


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Re: [gentoo-user] Software RAID Advice Needed

2005-12-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:21:20 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

> Also, consider that you can mix-and-match RAID levels with different
> partitions.  You can create a 4-partition RAID0 array for swap, a
> 4-partition RAID0+1 array for filesystems that experience a lot of
> writes (/var, /tmp, and maybe /usr/src, for example), and a
> 4-partition RAID5 setup for /root, /home, et al.  If a disk fails,
> your system would likely crash (due to the swap device), but would
> reboot in a degraded mode (no swap, slow performance, etc).

You could avoid that by not using RAID for swap. Instead, use four
separate swap partitions, one on each drive. As long as they all have the
same priority, the kernel will share swap duties between them equally.
There's no real benefit to using RAID for swap, unless you are limited on
RAM and use swap a lot, when RAID0 may help.


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Re: [gentoo-user] unencrypted network tools

2005-12-16 Thread Justin Krejci
On Thursday 15 December 2005 10:08 pm, Grant wrote:
> > > > How can I see what is happening as far as traffic on my unencrypted
> > > > network?
> > >
> > > tcpdump
> >
> > ntop is a good network summary program too. Works good if you can run it
> > on your default gateway machine. tcpdump is pretty cool for sure.
>
> The network is just run from a router.  No server on which I can run
> that stuff.  Is there anything I can use from my workstation which is
> connected to the network?

You can run it on your workstation as well and you will see broadcast traffic 
and traffic going to your computer. If you are on a hub, you should see all 
traffic connected to the hub.

>
> > > > How can I keep my own http traffic private?
> > >
> > > Use https instead.  IPSec is another option, if supported.  Also,
> > > traffic is normally only passed along the links between you and the
> > > server, unless there's some hub between you can them.
> > >
> > > You may be able to anonymize normal http by using tor.  I think freenet
> > > also provides some level of anonymity and encryption for http, but I've
> > > never used it.
> >
> > You can only use https on servers that support it. The question is too
> > vague to answer without specifying from who do you want to keep the data
> > private? Just people on your local network? Your ISP? Your boss? The http
> > servers?
>
> I'm only trying to keep the data private from the other people on the
> local network.
>

Who administrates your router and/or network? What kind of router is it? Are 
you using a swtich? Assuming you have a basic network setup using a simple 
switch and a simple router you would generally be private for outgoing http 
traffic unless there is someone sophisticated enough to be running something 
like ettercap to confuse the switch.

If you have no idea and if you have a remote computer you can connect to for 
browsing (maybe something at your home or elsewhere) you can remote control 
into it (using ssh tunnels for encryption) and then browse privately from 
that machine.

Are you expecting the other hosts on your network to be monitoring your http 
traffic? If there is some suspected method of them monitoring you it may 
require a specific technique to avoid their monitoring.

In any case, where does "gentoo" fall into this whole deal? This is a gentoo 
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Re: [OT] how to make Bootable DVD/CDs [Was] Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2005-12-16 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 16 December 2005 08:11, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 23:02 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
> > On 12/15/05, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4
> > -boot-info-table
>
> Thanks. Wonderful info.

The grub info pages contain a whole page about writing bootable CDs and DVDs.

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