Re: [gentoo-user] A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:24:37 +1300, Tom Eastman wrote:

> One idea I've had is to delete almost every entry in my 'world' file,
> and then do an 'emerge depclean'.  That would be pretty cool, empty out
> a huge amount of stuff, and then start re-installing at my leisure.

That sounds like a lot of work and re-installation. The way I've done it
is to edit the world file, removing anything that I don't run, then do an
emerge depclean -p. anything that shows up that I want to keep, I put
back with emerge -n packagename. Then run depclean -p again until I am
happy with what it wants to remove.

There's no point in removing and reinstalling packages, especially if you
are going to to emerge -e world later.


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Re: [gentoo-user] use fstab to mount my partition for normal user

2005-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:17:25 +0800, prolibertine wrote:

> i am using fstab to mount my win32 partition ,but only root user can
> write to win32 vfat partition,i want my normal user can write win32
> fat partition,who can tell me how to write the fstab. thanks

For a FAT partition, add umask=000 to the options to give full access for
everyone. FAT32 doesn't have permissions, so everything is handled by the
umask setting.

man mount has more info.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:45:24 +1300, Tom Eastman wrote:

> It would be cool if you could list every package based on when it was
> installed... so the stuff that is *reall* old can be freshened by a
> re-installation (with whatever my current compiler is)

How about

find /var/db/pkg -name '*.ebuild' ! -newer 
/var/db/pkg/sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1/gcc-3.4.*

to find all packages compiled before your last compiler update.


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[gentoo-user] x86-setup

2005-12-17 Thread Andy Stern
http://www.trustop.org/gensetup/

gzip-problem fixed :-)

what do you think about it, any resonances?

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[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-17 Thread reader
Tom Eastman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> So what I want to do is give my computer a complete clean-out.  What I
> really CAN'T be bothered doing is a complete format and re-install!

What you've described and what others have posted sounds more
compiicated and time consuming than doing what you CAN'T be bothered
with.   Also allows the opportunity to redo any partitioning scheme
and swap setup that may have aged or not fill the bill any more.


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[gentoo-user] Portage broken, can't load module cache_errors

2005-12-17 Thread Bruno Lustosa
Just synced and tried to update world.
Portage updated itself, and then died when trying to exec itself.
I updated from 2.0.53 to 2.1_pre1. The error is:

!!! Failed to complete python imports. There are internal modules for
!!! python and failure here indicates that you have a problem with python
!!! itself and thus portage is not able to continue processing.

!!! You might consider starting python with verbose flags to see what has
!!! gone wrong. Here is the information we got for this exception:
No module named cache.cache_errors

Well, can't even run portage now to check things.

I filed bug 115841 on bugzilla. Is anyone here experiencing the same thing?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage broken, can't load module cache_errors

2005-12-17 Thread Heiko Nock
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 09:44:19AM -0200, Bruno Lustosa wrote:

> Just synced and tried to update world.
> Portage updated itself, and then died when trying to exec itself.
> I updated from 2.0.53 to 2.1_pre1. The error is:
> 
> !!! Failed to complete python imports. There are internal modules for
> !!! python and failure here indicates that you have a problem with python
> !!! itself and thus portage is not able to continue processing.
> 
> !!! You might consider starting python with verbose flags to see what has
> !!! gone wrong. Here is the information we got for this exception:
> No module named cache.cache_errors
> Well, can't even run portage now to check things.
> I filed bug 115841 on bugzilla. Is anyone here experiencing the same thing?

Yes :(

I can't even back out the update, because every major portage command relies
on a working python.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage broken, can't load module cache_errors

2005-12-17 Thread replica-solutions.de
On Saturday 17 December 2005 11:52, Heiko Nock wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 09:44:19AM -0200, Bruno Lustosa wrote:
> > Just synced and tried to update world.
> > Portage updated itself, and then died when trying to exec itself.
> > I updated from 2.0.53 to 2.1_pre1. The error is:
> >
> > !!! Failed to complete python imports. There are internal modules for
> > !!! python and failure here indicates that you have a problem with python
> > !!! itself and thus portage is not able to continue processing.
> >
> > !!! You might consider starting python with verbose flags to see what has
> > !!! gone wrong. Here is the information we got for this exception:
> > No module named cache.cache_errors
> > Well, can't even run portage now to check things.
> > I filed bug 115841 on bugzilla. Is anyone here experiencing the same
> > thing?
>
> Yes :(
>
> I can't even back out the update, because every major portage command
> relies on a working python.
>
> Ciao, Heiko...
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[gentoo-user] [OT] web based imaage manipulation, slide show etc

2005-12-17 Thread reader
I've been googling around for a tool or suite that will allow the user
to remotely manipulate images as in generate dynamic html pages of
slide shows of directories of pics, or even organize a herd of images
into categories of the viewers choice and then run slide shows etc.

I'm thinking of something where family members can access a webpage,
navigate to the pics they want to view and view them in a number of
ways including slide shows.  

This would be on a family lan, not the internet so security and cpu
intensity would not be major factors.  Or at least it doesn't need to
be majorly scalable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage broken, can't load module cache_errors

2005-12-17 Thread Heiko Nock
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:59PM +, replica-solutions.de wrote:

> > > Well, can't even run portage now to check things.
> > > I filed bug 115841 on bugzilla. Is anyone here experiencing the same
> > > thing?
> > Yes :(
> > I can't even back out the update, because every major portage command
> > relies on a working python.
> See here : http://replica-solutions.de/board/index.php?topic=34

Ah, thanks!

I better replicate the information for people with the same problem:

(1) cd ~
(2) tar jxf ${DISTDIR}/portage-2.1_pre1.tar.bz2
(3) cp -R portage-2.1_pre1/pym/{cache,elog_modules} /usr/lib/portage/pym
(4) rm -r portage-2.1_pre1

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] web based imaage manipulation, slide show etc

2005-12-17 Thread Martins Steinbergs
On Saturday 17 December 2005 15:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've been googling around for a tool or suite that will allow the user
> to remotely manipulate images as in generate dynamic html pages of
> slide shows of directories of pics, or even organize a herd of images
> into categories of the viewers choice and then run slide shows etc.
>
> I'm thinking of something where family members can access a webpage,
> navigate to the pics they want to view and view them in a number of
> ways including slide shows.
>
> This would be on a family lan, not the internet so security and cpu
> intensity would not be major factors.  Or at least it doesn't need to
> be majorly scalable.

look in portage for gallery

but think best fit for your needs will be linpha
http://linpha.sourceforge.net/


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[gentoo-user] Re: ATI driver, tvout, blue video window

2005-12-17 Thread Michael Mauch
Alan E. Davis wrote:

> I have installed gentoo on a gateway laptop, with an ATI mobility 9000
> radeon video adaptor.  Once I have xorg installed, and ati-drivers
> (proprietary), tvout was pretty easy to set up using ati's setup
> utility, fglrxconfig and a couple of easy changes to
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
> 
> However, I am having trouble trying to show my classes a dvd, because
> on the TV, the video frame is completely solidly dark blue.
> 
> Preliminary investigation suggests this may be related to "xv".  I
> don't understand this, and my attempts to edit some parameters in
> xorg.conf have failed.

Yes, a blue window is typical for xv output on a device that can't do
xv. You have to tell your player that it should use some other output
driver. E.g. with mplayer you could use -vo x11. If you use some other
player, you will find the right option in its menus.

> I followed an instruction on one of the howtos or faqs to not enable
> dri in the kernel.

That's something different, you should revert that.

> Where can I find a relatively understandable explantion of this
> effect?  I saw a similar behavior with xinerama and a Matrox G450 with
> two heads: one head didn't show the graphics in the frame in some
> cases.

The second head is unaccelerated (at least on my G400), so you can't use
any "fancy stuff" like xv or OpenGL there.

Regards...
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Re: [gentoo-user] traffic shaping and p2p

2005-12-17 Thread Matthias Langer
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 13:08 +, Stroller wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2005, at 5:05 pm, Matthias Langer wrote:
> >
> > Well, i use azureus - and of course i know that upload-speed can be
> > limited - which is maybe in fact the best solution to my problem.
> > ...  for p2p apps - give them
> > as much bandwidth they can reasonably get but don't let them slow down
> > firefox, ssh etc. Because i want this setup just for my homenetwork, it
> > would perfectly suffice if packages get their priorities by examining
> > port-numbers. And because i want to at least partially understand what
> > i'm doing i would prefer a simple and clean setup.
> 
> I haven't used it yet, but my understanding of traffic-shaping is that 
> it's exactly what you want. I believe that other quality-of-service 
> mechanisms may require applications to be QoS aware (setting a QoS bit 
> in the packet header).
> 
> You're absolutely right in that reducing the bandwidth of the p2p app 
> isn't the ideal way to achieve what you want - I find latency in 
> browsing & surfing with BitTorrent consuming only 60% - 70% of my 
> upload - it doesn't help that other peers are continually making 
> requests of you. If you lower the bandwidth consumption in Azureous 
> then you have to remember to up it again when you go to bed - traffic 
> shaping WILL allow you to permanently maximise your p2p bandwidth, with 
> the ROUTER reducing it only when your priority services send packets.
> 
> > I know that in
> > principle the neccessairy steps to do what i wannt can be found in the
> > 'Packet Shaping HOWTO'.  By the way,
> > there are many different packet shedulers in the kernel - and the HOWTO
> > only explains the HTP-scheduler. What about the other schedulers - can
> > they be usefull for my purposes too - and if yes, how can they be
> > configured and used ?
> 
> No idea. I hope you'll give us feedback when you've discovered more.

Ok i found out that in fact the HFSC scheduler should be the one which
does exactly what i like because it handles bandwidth and latency
seperatley. Here  is my current setup, which seems not to be ideal - ssh
is still slow when my upload is high:

# create the following tree
#   1:
#  1:1
#   1:10   1:20 1:301:40
# where 1:10 is for ssh, 1:20 for svn, 1:30 for surfing and 1:40 for
unmatched traffic

# creates the root qdisc
tc qdisc add dev eth0 root handle 1: hfsc default 40
# node 1:1
tc class add dev eth0 parent 1: classid 1:1 hfsc sc rate 441kbit ul rate
441kbit
# node 1:10 (ssh) - guaranty 1500b in 20ms with an overarall rate of
88kbit
tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:10 hfsc sc umax 800b dmax
20ms rate 88kbit
# node 1:20 (svn) - guaranty 1500b in 30ms with an overall rate of of
147kbit
tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:20 hfsc sc umax 800b dmax
30ms rate 147kbit
# node 1:30 (firefox) - garanty 2b in 100ms with an overall rate of
120kbit
tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:30 hfsc sc umax 2b dmax
100ms rate 120kbit
#node 1:40  (unmatched)
tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:40 hfsc sc rate 96kbit

# now that we have our qdiscs we need filters for them
# ssh
tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1: prio 1 u32 match ip dport
22 0x flowid 1:10
# svn
tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1: prio 2 u32 match ip dport
3690 0x flowid 1:20
# firefox
tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1: prio 3 u32 match ip dport
80 0x flowid 1:30

Note that i use the u32 filter (must be enabled in the kernel) and not
iptables.

By the way, there is a very interesting article about traffic control
with qdiscs and different schedulers, in particular HFSC, written by the
author of HFSC himself in the german 'Linux Magazin' 02/2005.

I'll tell you about further experiences with HFSC - comments and
suggestions are welcome.

Matthias


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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] web based imaage manipulation, slide show etc

2005-12-17 Thread reader
Martins Steinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> look in portage for gallery

I went round and round with that sometime ago.  Maybe it will fly
better in my new clean fresh install.

> but think best fit for your needs will be linpha
> http://linpha.sourceforge.net/

Yes this does look nice and for you own info I happend on this in
google:

http://phpthumb.sourceforge.net/

But linpha looks more complete.

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Re: [gentoo-user] BIND DNS?

2005-12-17 Thread Sean Johnson
For what it's worth, I'd second djbdns. I've been using it (and qmail)
for a long time now, and haven't yet run into an issue.

Cheers,

Sean

On 12/13/05, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 December 2005 20:54, Tom Smith wrote:
> > I'm looking to install BIND DNS on one of my server (the first Gentoo box
> > on my network) but haven't been able to locate it in Portage. I tried the
> > obvious searches for "bind", "nameserver", "dns", etc, but still haven't
> > been able to find it.
> >
> > Does Gentoo have a BIND package and, if so, what's it name?
>
> Uhh, there is a bind package:
>
> maya / # emerge -p bind
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild  N] net-dns/bind-9.2.5-r6
> maya / #
>
> Although personally I'd be tempted to recommend djbdns, much in the same way
> as I'd advise something like postfix over sendmail.  There's some info on the
> wiki on how to install and configure djbdns, along with links to more info:
>
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_a_DNS_Server_with_DJBDNS
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge starts slowly

2005-12-17 Thread cucu ionut cristian
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 00:14 -0600, Justin Krejci wrote:
> I have a system with a 1.33Ghz Athlon-XP with a decently fast IDE hard drive
> I have a system with a 1.80Ghz AMD64 with a decently fast IDE hard drive
> 
> When I run "emerge -s whatever" or "emerge sync" or any emerge command 
> apparently, it usually takes about 1 second to start the command on the AMD64 
> system whereas on the Athlon-XP system it usually takes about 10-30 seconds 
> fore the command to start. What I mean by that is for example
> 
> 1. # emerge -s tcpdump  (press enter)
> 2. Searching... spinner
> 3. output of search
same here on ~amd64 first time takes lng second timpe it's like
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage broken, can't load module cache_errors

2005-12-17 Thread Graham Murray
Bruno Lustosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Just synced and tried to update world.
> Portage updated itself, and then died when trying to exec itself.
> I updated from 2.0.53 to 2.1_pre1. The error is:

Luckily I did not get that error but emerge then took 'an eternity' to
calculate the world dependencies before actually building any
packages.
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[gentoo-user] Emerge Question

2005-12-17 Thread Jeff Grossman
When I ran emerge -uaD today, I got the following output:

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.16 [2.15]
[ebuild U ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1 [7.15.0]
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3
[ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1
[ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3
[ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
[ebuild  N] virtual/x11-6.8
[ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
[ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-204
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3
[ebuild  N] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3
[ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4 [1.1.23-r1]


How do I find out why the x-11 programs are trying to be installed?  I 
am running just a server, so I have no X or X-11 or any gui type 
programs installed.  And, I don't want any gui type programs installed.

Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Question

2005-12-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/17/05, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I ran emerge -uaD today, I got the following output:
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.16 [2.15]
> [ebuild U ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1 [7.15.0]
> [ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5
> [ebuild  N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3
> [ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1
> [ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3
> [ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
> [ebuild  N] virtual/x11-6.8
> [ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3
> [ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
> [ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-204
> [ebuild  N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3
> [ebuild  N] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3
> [ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4 [1.1.23-r1]
>
>
> How do I find out why the x-11 programs are trying to be installed?  I
> am running just a server, so I have no X or X-11 or any gui type
> programs installed.  And, I don't want any gui type programs installed.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff

Try the tree option (-t) and see if it shows you what's calling it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Question

2005-12-17 Thread Dale

Jeff Grossman wrote:


When I ran emerge -uaD today, I got the following output:

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.16 [2.15]
[ebuild U ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1 [7.15.0]
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3
[ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1
[ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3
[ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
[ebuild  N] virtual/x11-6.8
[ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
[ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-204
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3
[ebuild  N] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3
[ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4 [1.1.23-r1]


How do I find out why the x-11 programs are trying to be installed?  I 
am running just a server, so I have no X or X-11 or any gui type 
programs installed.  And, I don't want any gui type programs installed.


Thanks,
Jeff

 

I put -X in my USE line in make.conf for my servers.  I have not seen 
that yet.  I have not updated them in a few weeks though.  May be worth 
looking at.  Mine looks like this:



USE="-X -alsa"



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2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.

3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage broken, can't load module cache_errors

2005-12-17 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 18 December 2005 01:27, Graham Murray wrote:
> Bruno Lustosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Just synced and tried to update world.
> > Portage updated itself, and then died when trying to exec itself.
> > I updated from 2.0.53 to 2.1_pre1. The error is:

This error has been fixed. I was going to post on the mailing list but found 
that the fix had made it's way here already.

> Luckily I did not get that error but emerge then took 'an eternity' to
> calculate the world dependencies before actually building any
> packages.

I added a message about three hours ago that is displayed after portage is 
installed noting this. The default cache format has changed so you'll need to 
run `emerge metadata` to get the local cache back up to date.

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[gentoo-user] Java install question

2005-12-17 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   Is a Java JDK a necessity? I currently have none of the Blackdown
stuff installed and am using sun-jre-bin as it solves a problem with
some drop down menus. However, when I emerge sun-jre-bin I get a set
of messages that aren't comforting:

--- !targe sym /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/lib/i386/client/libjsig.so
--- !targe sym /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/javaws/javaws
>>> original instance of package unmerged safely.
  * Found no JDK, setting sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06 as default system VM
javac not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javac or
/opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javac
javadoc not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javadoc or
/opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javadoc
jar not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/jar or
/opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/jar
rmic not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/rmic or
/opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/rmic
THIS SYSTEM VM IS NOT SUFFICIENT, REQUIRED BINARIES WERE NOT FOUND
System Virtual Machine set
You may want to update your enviroment by running:
"/usr/sbin/env-update && source /etc/profile"
>>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...


   I get the same messages if I install only the blackdown-jre without
the blackdown-jdk.

   Am I supposed to be installing something else to make the sun-jre
work? (Since the blackdown-jre dowsn't work...)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix blackdown
* dev-java/blackdown-jre
 Available versions:  *1.3.1-r9 1.4.1-r1 1.4.2.01-r1 1.4.2.02 ~1.4.2.02-r1
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org
 Description: Blackdown Java Runtime Environment 1.4.2.01

* dev-java/blackdown-jdk
 Available versions:  1.3.1-r8 *1.3.1-r10 1.4.1-r1 1.4.2.01-r2
1.4.2.02 ~1.4.2.03
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org/
 Description: Blackdown Java Development Kit 1.3.1

* dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin
 Available versions:  1.3.1-r1
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org
 Description: Java 3D Software Development Kit


Found 3 matches
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix sun-jre-bin
* dev-java/sun-jre-bin
 Available versions:  1.4.2.09 1.4.2.10 1.5.0.05 1.5.0.06
 Installed:   1.5.0.06
 Homepage:http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/
 Description: Sun's J2SE Platform


Found 1 matches
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI driver, tvout, blue video window

2005-12-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Michael Mauch schreef:
> Alan E. Davis wrote:
> 
>> I followed an instruction on one of the howtos or faqs to not 
>> enable dri in the kernel.
> 
> 
> That's something different, you should revert that.
> 
> 

Michael, that's wrong, for the fglrx drivers-- they won't install or run
if the kernel DRM is enabled.

The drivers contain their own DRI, which will not load if the kernel DRI
is loaded already (which it will if it is enabled in the kernel at all).

The install script actually checks the kernel's .config (this is why the
kernel source to which /usr/src/linux points must have a valid config
file, even if it is not yet compiled or installed, in order to install
the fglrx drivers) to see if the option is enabled, and halts
installation if it is found as either Y or M.

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't emerge realplayer

2005-12-17 Thread maxim wexler


> Yeah, it stopped me from updating my system
> properly, until I put 
> realplayer into /etc/portage/package.mask (i.e.
> prevent realplayer from 
> ever being installed).
> 
> Never found a proper solution to the problem though,
> so Im looking at 
> this thread with interest.

Turns out RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm is
not in the same location that emerge looks for it. A
search leads to helix but you have to scroll down, way
down to find it. Download into /usr/portage/distfiles
and re-emerge. Worked for me :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Question

2005-12-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht schreef:
> On 12/17/05, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> When I ran emerge -uaD today, I got the following output:
>> 
>> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>> 
>> Calculating world dependencies ...done! 

>> [ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.16 [2.15] [ebuild U ] 
>> net-misc/curl-7.15.1
>> [7.15.0] [ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5 
>> [ebuild  N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 [ebuild  N]
>> x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1 [ebuild  N]
>> media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3 [ebuild  N]
>> x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 [ebuild  N] virtual/x11-6.8 [ebuild
>> N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3 [ebuild  N]
>> sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6 [ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-204 
>> [ebuild  N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3 [ebuild  N]
>> app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3 [ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4
>> [1.1.23-r1]
>> 
>> 
>> How do I find out why the x-11 programs are trying to be installed?
>> I am running just a server, so I have no X or X-11 or any gui type 
>> programs installed.  And, I don't want any gui type programs
>> installed.
>> 
>> Thanks, Jeff
> 
> 
> Try the tree option (-t) and see if it shows you what's calling it.
> 

The -v (--verbose) option would be useful here too-- it's possible that
one of these packages has a USE flag enabled that requires X (like the
"motif" flag issue seen here on the forums the other day. And since I
see openmotif being called )

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't emerge realplayer

2005-12-17 Thread Holly Bostick
maxim wexler schreef:
> 
> Turns out RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm is
> not in the same location that emerge looks for it. A
> search leads to helix but you have to scroll down, way
> down to find it. Download into /usr/portage/distfiles
> and re-emerge. Worked for me :)
> 
> 
You might post a bug encouraging the maintainer to fix the URL in the
ebuild, if such a bug report does not exist.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGL Server Error

2005-12-17 Thread AJ Spagnoletti
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml if you have a Nvidia card

Raphael Thanks for the link :-)

> > >
> > >>I have just finished emerging k3d and I am getting an error when I try
> > >>to run the program.
> > >>When I try to run the program I get the following error.
> > >>
> > >>"ERROR: Could not connect to an OpenGL Server. Shutting down"
> > >>
> >
> > Obvious question first; what video card, and what drivers? Is there an
> > OpenGL (3D hardware acceleration) server available at all?
> >
> > Meaning, do the drivers for your video card provide OpenGL?
> >
> > Holly
I have an Nvidia card and old gf2 that the nvidia site says supports
OpenGL but thanks for pointing out the obvious I never loaded the
Nvidia driver or the glx libraries. When following the link that
Raphael sent me for the Nvidia cards I ran into an error loading the
Nvidia module in X however. Thanks for the help with this problem now
onto the next :-)

A.J.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Question

2005-12-17 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (17/12/05 08:31), Jeff Grossman wrote:
> When I ran emerge -uaD today, I got the following output:
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.16 [2.15]
> [ebuild U ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1 [7.15.0]
> [ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5
> [ebuild  N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3
> [ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1
> [ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3
> [ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
> [ebuild  N] virtual/x11-6.8
> [ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3
> [ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
> [ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-204
> [ebuild  N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3
> [ebuild  N] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3
> [ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4 [1.1.23-r1]
> 
> 
> How do I find out why the x-11 programs are trying to be installed?  I 
> am running just a server, so I have no X or X-11 or any gui type 
> programs installed.  And, I don't want any gui type programs installed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> 
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> 
Hi,
The new 'cups' has xpdf as external viewer dependency (see Changelog) and xpdf 
has two
USE flags (motif & X).
So put "-X" in /etc/portage/package.use for "app-text'xpdf".
#echo "app-text/xpdf -X" >> /etc/portage/package.use
Could do the same for 'motif'.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Question

2005-12-17 Thread Bill Roberts
On 10:50 Sat 17 Dec , Dale wrote:
> Jeff Grossman wrote:
> 
> >When I ran emerge -uaD today, I got the following output:
> >
> >These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >
> >Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> >[ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.16 [2.15]
> >[ebuild U ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1 [7.15.0]
> >[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5
> >[ebuild  N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3
> >[ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1
> >[ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3
> >[ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
> >[ebuild  N] virtual/x11-6.8
> >[ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3
> >[ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
> >[ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-204
> >[ebuild  N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3
> >[ebuild  N] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3
> >[ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4 [1.1.23-r1]
> >
> >
> >How do I find out why the x-11 programs are trying to be installed?  I 
> >am running just a server, so I have no X or X-11 or any gui type 
> >programs installed.  And, I don't want any gui type programs installed.

The culprit is cups, which changed some USE flags, pulling in xpfd &
openmotif.  See:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/148810

for details.

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[gentoo-user] emerge routine calling emacs with `poor' cmdline

2005-12-17 Thread reader
I'm not sure exactly what is happening to load emacs in such a way
that its output (when loading personal init files) causes emerge to
error out.

I do have most of the error and context to post.  What I do know
is that emacs is routinely called to byte compile stuff.  Normally
that call would include `-q --no-site-file ' on the emacs command
line.

That is routine, so I'm thinking the call is made without those
precautions. 

-q prevents ~/.emacs but also /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/default.el
 from loading if it exists.  

--no-stite-file  prevents loading of site-start.el if it exists.

Those files are reserved for system admins to set global code into
emacs started by any user.  And of coures ~/.emacs is where users put
there own code.

Any of those three files is likely to have all kinds of screwy code
loading that has no place in a compile situation.  I even think it
breaks the emerge session.  I'm guessing some of my code causes output
from emacs not expected by emerge or maybe coming out on standard err
caused the problem.

Of coures I've recognize the source code I wrote being invoked so I
just have to rename a couple of files or even just site-start.el
during the emerge.

That should not be necessary though.  Somewhere in the build session
emacs is called wrong and should be fixed.

I don't know enough about tracing this out to pull out the hard facts
so before posting a bug on this, I'd like to hear some commentary.


emerge error with context: 
(see asterisks below)

/bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -Os 
-march=pentium4 -pipe   -o msguniq  msguniq-msguniq.o libgettextsrc.la
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -Os -march=pentium4 -pipe -o .libs/msguniq 
msguniq-msguniq.o  ./.libs/libgettextsrc.so 
/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.5/work/gettext-0.14.5/gettext-tools/lib/.libs/libgettextlib.so
 -lc
creating msguniq
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
-DLOCALE_ALIAS_PATH=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DUSEJEXE=0 
-DGETTEXTJEXEDIR=\"/usr/lib/gettext\" 
-DGETTEXTJAR=\"/usr/share/gettext/gettext.jar\" -DLIBDIR=\"/usr/lib\" 
-DGETTEXTDATADIR=\"/usr/share/gettext\" 
-DPROJECTSDIR=\"/usr/share/gettext/projects\" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I. -I. -I..  -I. -I. -I.. -I../libgrep -I../libuniname -I../lib -I../lib 
-I../intl -I../../gettext-runtime/intl  -DINSTALLDIR=\"/usr/lib/gettext\" -Os 
-march=pentium4 -pipe -c -o hostname-hostname.o `test -f 'hostname.c' || echo 
'./'`hostname.c
/bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -Os 
-march=pentium4 -pipe   -o hostname  hostname-hostname.o ../lib/libgettextlib.la
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -Os -march=pentium4 -pipe -o .libs/hostname 
hostname-hostname.o  ../lib/.libs/libgettextlib.so -lc
creating hostname
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
-DLOCALE_ALIAS_PATH=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DUSEJEXE=0 
-DGETTEXTJEXEDIR=\"/usr/lib/gettext\" 
-DGETTEXTJAR=\"/usr/share/gettext/gettext.jar\" -DLIBDIR=\"/usr/lib\" 
-DGETTEXTDATADIR=\"/usr/share/gettext\" 
-DPROJECTSDIR=\"/usr/share/gettext/projects\" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I. -I. -I..  -I. -I. -I.. -I../libgrep -I../libuniname -I../lib -I../lib 
-I../intl -I../../gettext-runtime/intl  -DINSTALLDIR=\"/usr/lib/gettext\" -Os 
-march=pentium4 -pipe -c -o urlget-urlget.o `test -f 'urlget.c' || echo 
'./'`urlget.c
/bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -Os 
-march=pentium4 -pipe   -o urlget  urlget-urlget.o ../lib/libgettextlib.la
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -Os -march=pentium4 -pipe -o .libs/urlget urlget-urlget.o 
 ../lib/.libs/libgettextlib.so -lc
creating urlget
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.5/work/gettext-0.14.5/gettext-tools/src'
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.5/work/gettext-0.14.5/gettext-tools/src'
Making all in po
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.5/work/gettext-0.14.5/gettext-tools/po'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.5/work/gettext-0.14.5/gettext-tools/po'
Making all in projects
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.5/work/gettext-0.14.5/gettext-tools/projects'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.5/work/gettext-0.14.5/gettext-tools/projects'
Making all in misc
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.5/work/gettext-0.14.5/gettext-tools/misc'
WARNING: Warnings can be ignored. :-)
if test "emacs" != no; then \
  set x; \
  list='start-po.el po-mode.el po-compat.el'; for p in $list; do \
if test -f "$p"; then d=; else d="./"; fi; \
set x "$@" "$d$p"; shift; \
  done; \
  shift; \
  EMACS="emacs" /bin/sh ../../build-aux/elisp-comp "$@" || exit 1; \
else : ; fi
Loading 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/lang-coding-systems-init.el 
(source)...
Loading /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/php-mode-init.el 
(source)...
L

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Question

2005-12-17 Thread Jeff Grossman
Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeff Grossman wrote:
> 
>>When I ran emerge -uaD today, I got the following output:
>>
>>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>
>>Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>>[ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.16 [2.15]
>>[ebuild U ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1 [7.15.0]
>>[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5
>>[ebuild  N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3
>>[ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1
>>[ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3
>>[ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
>>[ebuild  N] virtual/x11-6.8
>>[ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3
>>[ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
>>[ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-204
>>[ebuild  N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3
>>[ebuild  N] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3
>>[ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4 [1.1.23-r1]
>>
>>
>>How do I find out why the x-11 programs are trying to be installed?  I 
>>am running just a server, so I have no X or X-11 or any gui type 
>>programs installed.  And, I don't want any gui type programs installed.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Jeff
>>
>>  
>>
> I put -X in my USE line in make.conf for my servers.  I have not seen 
> that yet.  I have not updated them in a few weeks though.  May be worth 
> looking at.  Mine looks like this:
> 
>> USE="-X -alsa"

I already had -X in my use flags.  That was not enough.  You will need 
to add -motif to the use flags now to make sure x11 does not get 
installed.  This is only necessary if you have CUPS installed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Two boots?

2005-12-17 Thread romildo
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 02:11:45PM -0500, Shawn Singh wrote:
> I'm sorry, but what do you mean when you say that it goes through two boot
> cycles? Are you saying that when you need to reboot the machine it will come
> up, then reboot itself or that it will start the boot process, but not
> complete successfully, which would require you to boot again?

I have been experiencing this problem for a while, but I
did not have the time to try to solve it yet.

In my case, I have an Athlon64, and most of the time,
the first boot attempt stops near the time the clock
service is run. Then the machine reboots itself, and
the boot process succeeds.

If I am not wrong, this behaviour started just
after the kernel was updated to the 2.6.13 version.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Question

2005-12-17 Thread Jeff Grossman
Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/17/05, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> When I ran emerge -uaD today, I got the following output:
>>
>> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>
>> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>> [ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.16 [2.15]
>> [ebuild U ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1 [7.15.0]
>> [ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5
>> [ebuild  N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3
>> [ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1
>> [ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3
>> [ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
>> [ebuild  N] virtual/x11-6.8
>> [ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3
>> [ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
>> [ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-204
>> [ebuild  N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3
>> [ebuild  N] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3
>> [ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4 [1.1.23-r1]
>>
>>
>> How do I find out why the x-11 programs are trying to be installed?  I
>> am running just a server, so I have no X or X-11 or any gui type
>> programs installed.  And, I don't want any gui type programs installed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
> 
> Try the tree option (-t) and see if it shows you what's calling it.

I tried that, and was not able to figure out how to read it.  After 
reading the forums, I found out it was CUPS that added xpdf to the deps, 
which xpdf requires x11.  I added -motif to my use flags, and now it 
does not require x11 anymore.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Two boots?

2005-12-17 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have been experiencing this problem for a while, but I
did not have the time to try to solve it yet.

In my case, I have an Athlon64, and most of the time,
the first boot attempt stops near the time the clock
service is run. Then the machine reboots itself, and
the boot process succeeds.


The same happens to me, exactly at the same point. I have an athlon xp 
2600+, and if I'm not mistaken, it happened before 2.6.13


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Question

2005-12-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/17/05, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try the tree option (-t) and see if it shows you what's calling it.
>
> I tried that, and was not able to figure out how to read it.  After
> reading the forums, I found out it was CUPS that added xpdf to the deps,
> which xpdf requires x11.  I added -motif to my use flags, and now it
> does not require x11 anymore.
>
> Jeff

Yeah, -t is a bit weird, but probably emerge -tvp has the info
required to figure it out.

Glad you got it fixed.

- Mark

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[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-17 Thread Tom Eastman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What you've described and what others have posted sounds more
> compiicated and time consuming than doing what you CAN'T be bothered
> with.   Also allows the opportunity to redo any partitioning scheme
> and swap setup that may have aged or not fill the bill any more.

*almost*.

Reformatting, repartitioning, and re-bootstrapping is exactly the step I
want to avoid.  I'm pretty much happy with my setup in that regard.  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge Question

2005-12-17 Thread Justin Krejci
You can also add "t" to your emerge command options which will indent 
dependencies.

emerge -vDuta world
is how I usually update world.

On Saturday 17 December 2005 01:07 pm, Jeff Grossman wrote:
> Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 12/17/05, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> When I ran emerge -uaD today, I got the following output:
> >>
> >> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >>
> >> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> >> [ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.16 [2.15]
> >> [ebuild U ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1 [7.15.0]
> >> [ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5
> >> [ebuild  N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3
> >> [ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1
> >> [ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3
> >> [ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
> >> [ebuild  N] virtual/x11-6.8
> >> [ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3
> >> [ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
> >> [ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-204
> >> [ebuild  N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3
> >> [ebuild  N] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3
> >> [ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4 [1.1.23-r1]
> >>
> >>
> >> How do I find out why the x-11 programs are trying to be installed?  I
> >> am running just a server, so I have no X or X-11 or any gui type
> >> programs installed.  And, I don't want any gui type programs installed.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Jeff
> >
> > Try the tree option (-t) and see if it shows you what's calling it.
>
> I tried that, and was not able to figure out how to read it.  After
> reading the forums, I found out it was CUPS that added xpdf to the deps,
> which xpdf requires x11.  I added -motif to my use flags, and now it
> does not require x11 anymore.
>
> Jeff
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Re: [gentoo-user] (WAS OT - Port named runs on)

2005-12-17 Thread Chris Boot

Michael Sullivan wrote:

On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 18:48 +, Stroller wrote:
  

On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:25 pm, Michael Sullivan wrote:



How would I find out what port named runs on (so I could open that port
on my firewall)?
  
It normally runs on port 53, unhelpfully labelled "domain" in 
/etc/services (a file which is otherwise & normally useful for 
grepping).


Stroller.




I found it.  It is port 53.  Now I have a new problem.  I tried to list
my DNS server (that I've been working on this week) as an optional third
DNS server for my domain at my registrar's website.  I have a record for
ns.espersunited.com in my DNS setup on my server box.  The problem is
that nobody knows who ns.espersunited.com is because my current DNS
hosting service (Yahoo SmallBusiness) doesn't allow entry of NS records
in their customer DNS settings and my registrar (1accredited.com) won't
accept an IP address as a nameserver.  I might try listing
bullet.espersunited.com as a nameserver (ns.espersunited.com has a CNAME
record pointing to bullet.espersunited.com), but I'm not sure it will
work.  Any suggestions of how to get my DNS server noticed
You can only run an externally visible DNS server on a *completely* 
static IP. If you have a static IP for your server, you then have to ask 
your domain registrar (for espersunited.com) to register your DNS server 
with the name(s) you wish, I recommend keeping to the standard 
nsX.domain. If you ever need to change the IP address for your DNS 
server, you need to ask your registrar to do this.


Only once your DNS server is registered can you use it as a server for a 
domain. Before you do any of this, however, I *strongly* recommend you 
get very familiar with DNS and understand exactly what you are doing. I 
cannot emphasize this enough, since if your DNS server is not running 
properly you can become the target of various attacks and/or the 
domain(s) you are servicing may start failing.


DNS isn't trivial.

HTH,
Chris

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Re: [gentoo-user] PayPal® UPDATE TEAM

2005-12-17 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 16:22 -0500, PayPal Inc. wrote:
>   
>
> 
> Dear valued PayPal® member : 
> 
> 
> 
> It has come to our attention that your PayPal® account information
> needs to be 
> updated as part of our continuing commitment to protect your account
> and to 
> reduce the instance of fraud on our website.  If you could please take
> 5-10 minutes 
> out of your online experience and update your personal records you
> will not run into 
> any future problems with the online service.
> 
> However, failure to update your records will result in account
> suspension. 
> Please update your records on or before December 18, 2005. 
> 
> Once you have updated your account records, your PayPal® session will
> not be 
> interrupted and will continue as normal. 
> 
> To update your PayPal® records click on the following link: 
> 
> http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_login-run 
> 
>  
> 
> Thank You.  
> PayPal® UPDATE TEAM  
> 
> Accounts Management As outlined in our User Agreement, PayPal® will 
> periodically send you information about site changes and
> enhancements. 
> 
> Visit our Privacy Policy and User Agreement if you have any
> questions. 
> http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/policy_privacy
> -outside
> 
>  
Wow!  A cross-posted spam-thing!  I found this one somewhat difficult to
take seriously before, but when it's cross-posted I find it downright
hilarious!  While this is amusing shouldn't robin.gentoo.org have some
kind of spam filter that can filter out mail with the string "Paypal" in
the Subject line?

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Re: [gentoo-user] PayPal(r) UPDATE TEAM

2005-12-17 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/17/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PayPal Inc. wrote:
> > Dear valued **PayPal^(r) * *member :


> OK.  I still have some trees and my rope handy.  Let's hang this @#$%#^
> #%$&!* by the you know whats.  o_O

Folks, if we are going to respond to this kind of crap, can we at
least trim out the original spam.  We've all seen it, we all know what
it says, we don't need to see it quoted in full a dozen times just so
you can say "spammers suck".

It used to be that requiring a subscription to be able to post to a
mailing list was sufficient to keep the spammers out.  Now it seems
the spammers have learned a new trick. :-(

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[gentoo-user] OT - Need help with setting up an Apache alias

2005-12-17 Thread Michael Sullivan
I'm trying to set up aliases to different html directories
under /usr/share/doc.  I've run into a snag.  My first one if for
syslog-ng.  Here's the Apache2 config for it:

bullet modules.d # cat 01_manuals.conf
Alias /manuals/syslog-ng "/usr/share/doc/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1/html"

Order allow,deny
Allow from all



I restarted /etc/init.d/apache2 and poined my web browser to
www.espersunited.com/manuals/syslog-ng.  It gave me a 403 Forbidden.  I
checked the permissions from /usr all the way down
to /usr/share/doc/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1/html and all were 755.  The
contents of /usr/share/doc/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1/html were 444, but I don't
think that's a problem.  I looked at /var/log/apache2/error_log for the
source of the problem and found this:

[Sat Dec 17 17:32:24 2005] [error] [client 192.168.1.3] Directory index
forbidden by rule: /usr/share/doc/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1/html/


I thought "Allow from all" meant that anyone could access the directory?
What am I doing wrong?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help with setting up an Apache alias [SOLVED]

2005-12-17 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 17:40 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> I'm trying to set up aliases to different html directories
> under /usr/share/doc.  I've run into a snag.  My first one if for
> syslog-ng.  Here's the Apache2 config for it:
> 
> bullet modules.d # cat 01_manuals.conf
> Alias /manuals/syslog-ng "/usr/share/doc/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1/html"
> 
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
> 
> 
> 
> I restarted /etc/init.d/apache2 and poined my web browser to
> www.espersunited.com/manuals/syslog-ng.  It gave me a 403 Forbidden.  I
> checked the permissions from /usr all the way down
> to /usr/share/doc/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1/html and all were 755.  The
> contents of /usr/share/doc/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1/html were 444, but I don't
> think that's a problem.  I looked at /var/log/apache2/error_log for the
> source of the problem and found this:
> 
> [Sat Dec 17 17:32:24 2005] [error] [client 192.168.1.3] Directory index
> forbidden by rule: /usr/share/doc/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1/html/
> 
> 
> I thought "Allow from all" meant that anyone could access the directory?
> What am I doing wrong?

Nevermind.  I went into /usr/share/doc/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1/html and
created a symlink called "index.html" and then it worked...

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[gentoo-user] Scanner Epson CX5400

2005-12-17 Thread smoke3
Hello all,I've got a CX5400 EPSON All-in-One printer/scanner.I tried to configure sane-backends in order to get it working on my 2.6.14-gentoo (amd 64), but I think I'm doing something wrong. That is, when I type:
# sane-find-scanner -q I get:found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0808 [USB MFP]) at libusb:002:003
But, after configuring /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf with usb 0x04b8 0x0808and /etc/sane.d/dll.conf with:
epkowaThen if I try:# SANE_DEBUG_EPKOWA scanimage -LI'll get:
[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of epkowa to 16.[epkowa] sane_init: iscan 1.17.0
[epkowa] sane_init, >usb 0x04b8 0x0808<[epkowa] attach_one_usb(libusb:002:003)
[epkowa] EPKOWA SANE Backend 1.17.0 - 2005-08-04[epkowa] attach(libusb:002:003, 3)
[epkowa] attach: opening libusb:002:003[epkowa] sane_get_devices()
No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentationwhich came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
[epkowa] sane_exitAnd obviously no way also with xsane neither xscanimage.HOW IS IT POSSIBLE???
I would really appreciate any comment!!!Thank you,S.G.-- You can't learn what you think you know.


[gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources

2005-12-17 Thread C. Beamer
Hi all,

>From all I've ever read and about Linux and the kernel, it has always
been recommended that you keep one kernel source older than the one that
you are currently running on your system.

In this respect, I now have 3 kernel sources on my computer after
upgrading today.

I would like to remove the oldest one - specifically linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r10

The Kernel Upgrade Guide tells you how to remove the old sources using
emerge -P.  However, from what is stated in the manual, *all* old kernel
sources are removed.  The emerge man page says that a better option is
to use emerge --clean.  However, I haven't been able to figure out how
to remove a specific source tree.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] PayPal® UPDATE TEAM

2005-12-17 Thread Chris White
On Sunday 18 December 2005 07:39, Michael Sullivan wrote:

> Wow!  A cross-posted spam-thing!  I found this one somewhat difficult to
> take seriously before, but when it's cross-posted I find it downright
> hilarious!  While this is amusing shouldn't robin.gentoo.org have some
> kind of spam filter that can filter out mail with the string "Paypal" in
> the Subject line?

No, because the same system that filters list email filters dev email.  While 
I don't use paypal, other devs might to handle shipping of hardware or 
whatever.  That said, they probably don't want PayPal stripped from the 
subject line.  As with most large scale email systems, there tends to be a 
"you're on your own, you handle it" aspect to filtering.  This prevents false 
positives from hitting the filter and someone missing an important email.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources

2005-12-17 Thread Myk Taylor

emerge -C gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10
or
emerge -C =gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10

-C is short for --unmerge

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[gentoo-user] Annoying email from dcron

2005-12-17 Thread Michael Sullivan
I was having some problems with dcron randomly shutting down.  I
remerged dcron this afternoon and it's running just fine except that I
get this annoying email every few minutes:

unable to create /var/spool/cron/crontabs/michael.new: File exists


The problem is that I can't delete the file because it doesn't actually
exist.

How do I get rid of this annoying error?

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[gentoo-user] [OT] own ~/.gtkrc-2.0 for given app

2005-12-17 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Hi!

I'd like to use "own" ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file for some given app. In another
words, I'd like to use differnet engine/fonts for this app. All other apps
must use "standard" ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file.

Is it possible?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources

2005-12-17 Thread Samir Faci

Myk Taylor wrote:

is there an advantage to doing that as opposed to rm -fr 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-r10  (or whatever the dir is called)?  Just 
curious, I always just used the rm -fr


Samir


emerge -C gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10
or
emerge -C =gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10

-C is short for --unmerge

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I would like to remove the oldest one - specifically 
linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r10





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[gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?

2005-12-17 Thread Ernie Schroder
I'm obviously looking in the wrong places, but I can't find documentation on 
getting udev to start at boot. Sound and a few other things you don't notice 
right away fail to work until I do:
# udevstart
/dev/dsp is created with correct permissions and I'm good to go. The question 
is:
How to I get udev to start at boot?

I had thought that the place to do this was in grub.conf. Following some 
instructions I found searching the gentoo forums, I edited my kernel line 
like so:

title  Gentoo-2.6.14
root   (hd0,0)
kernel /bzImage-2.6.14-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda5 dev=udev 
video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x317

Also If you see why the boot complains about my video mode, feel free to 
comment.
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Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?

2005-12-17 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/17/05, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm obviously looking in the wrong places, but I can't find documentation on
> getting udev to start at boot. Sound and a few other things you don't notice
> right away fail to work until I do:
> # udevstart
> /dev/dsp is created with correct permissions and I'm good to go. The question
> is:
> How to I get udev to start at boot?

Udevstart doesn't actually start udevd...it just rescans the devices
and recreates device nodes.  The actual udev daemon is started by
/sbin/rc, possibly via /lib/rc-scripts/add-ons/udev-start.sh depending
upon your version of baselayout.

Having RC_DEVICES=udev or auto should be sufficient to start udevd on
startup.  Setting dev=udev in grub.conf is not necessary, and probably
won't change anything.

Now for your missing device nodes, maybe you just need to do:

rc-update -a coldplug default

> kernel /bzImage-2.6.14-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda5 dev=udev
> video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x317
>
> Also If you see why the boot complains about my video mode, feel free to
> comment.

1. If you are using vesafb-tng, you cannot use vga= to set the video
mode. It must be part of the video option like so: 
video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED],ywrap,mtrr

2. If you are not using vesafb-tng, you cannot use video=, so you
should take out that option.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources

2005-12-17 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/17/05, Samir Faci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> is there an advantage to doing that as opposed to rm -fr
> /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-r10  (or whatever the dir is called)?  Just
> curious, I always just used the rm -fr

Unmerging also removes the entries from the package database in /var/db/pkg/.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources

2005-12-17 Thread Myk Taylor
just 'rm -rf'ing the source dirs gets rid of the files, true, but not 
formally unmerging packages desynchronizes the package management 
system, which will think you still have the older versions installed. 
In practice, I don't think it causes any real problems (maybe it will 
make emerge(1) take a little longer when calculating dependencies...), 
but it will allow cruft to build in your system, and with it, possible 
troubleshooting difficulties.


--myk

Samir Faci wrote:
is there an advantage to doing that as opposed to rm -fr 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-r10  (or whatever the dir is called)?  Just 
curious, I always just used the rm -fr


Myk Taylor wrote:

emerge -C gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10
or
emerge -C =gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10

-C is short for --unmerge

C. Beamer wrote:
I would like to remove the oldest one - specifically 
linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r10

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] own ~/.gtkrc-2.0 for given app

2005-12-17 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/17/05, Andrew Gaydenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'd like to use "own" ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file for some given app. In another
> words, I'd like to use differnet engine/fonts for this app. All other apps
> must use "standard" ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file.

I haven't tried this, but I think this should work:

GTK2_RC_FILES=special_gtkrc special_app

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Re: [gentoo-user] Two boots?

2005-12-17 Thread Alan E. Davis
On 12/18/05, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I have been experiencing this problem for a while, but I
> > did not have the time to try to solve it yet.
> >
> > In my case, I have an Athlon64, and most of the time,
> > the first boot attempt stops near the time the clock
> > service is run. Then the machine reboots itself, and
> > the boot process succeeds.
>
> The same happens to me, exactly at the same point. I have an athlon xp
> 2600+, and if I'm not mistaken, it happened before 2.6.13
>
Me too.  I have to double check, but I also believe it happens when it
is going to sync the clocks.  I am using 2.6.13.  It might have
started happening when I began to use this kernel, though I didn't
keep good notes on that.

Alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] Scanner Epson CX5400

2005-12-17 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/17/05, smoke3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I've got a CX5400 EPSON All-in-One printer/scanner.
>
> I tried to configure sane-backends in order to get it working on my
> 2.6.14-gentoo (amd 64), but I think I'm doing something wrong.
> That is, when I type:
> # sane-find-scanner -q
>
> I get:
> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0808 [USB MFP]) at
> libusb:002:003
>
> But, after configuring /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf with
> usb 0x04b8 0x0808

According to the sane project, the CX5400 should be using the epson
backend, not epkowa:

http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-mfgs-cvs.html#Z-EPSON

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[gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5

2005-12-17 Thread Nick Rout
I see a lot of people seem to have upgraded to kde 3.5.

I am currently running kde 3.4.1 (installed via kde-meta) and stable is
3.4.3. However reports seem to be that 3.5.0 seems good enuf to work
with and I can't be bothered compiling 3.4.3 and then 3.5 later.

S, is there an easy way forward? I suspect I could enter a large
number of packages as ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords, or I could
ask here if there is an easier way.

Answers on the back of an envelope etc etc :-)

Oh and apologies if this is covered somewhere really basic and I missed
it, I did look, honest (and the wiki seems to be down for me today).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5

2005-12-17 Thread LostSon
On Saturday 17 December 2005 21:17, Nick Rout wrote:
> I see a lot of people seem to have upgraded to kde 3.5.
>
> I am currently running kde 3.4.1 (installed via kde-meta) and stable is
> 3.4.3. However reports seem to be that 3.5.0 seems good enuf to work
> with and I can't be bothered compiling 3.4.3 and then 3.5 later.
>
> S, is there an easy way forward? I suspect I could enter a large
> number of packages as ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords, or I could
> ask here if there is an easier way.
>
> Answers on the back of an envelope etc etc :-)
>
> Oh and apologies if this is covered somewhere really basic and I missed
> it, I did look, honest (and the wiki seems to be down for me today).
>
> NRR

  Hello 
 Simply use 

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge kde 

 and let it go 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5

2005-12-17 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:33:33 -0600
LostSon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 17 December 2005 21:17, Nick Rout wrote:
> > I see a lot of people seem to have upgraded to kde 3.5.
> >
> > I am currently running kde 3.4.1 (installed via kde-meta) and stable is
> > 3.4.3. However reports seem to be that 3.5.0 seems good enuf to work
> > with and I can't be bothered compiling 3.4.3 and then 3.5 later.
> >
> > S, is there an easy way forward? I suspect I could enter a large
> > number of packages as ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords, or I could
> > ask here if there is an easier way.
> >
> > Answers on the back of an envelope etc etc :-)
> >
> > Oh and apologies if this is covered somewhere really basic and I missed
> > it, I did look, honest (and the wiki seems to be down for me today).
> >
> > NRR
> 
>   Hello 
>  Simply use 
> 
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge kde 
> 
>  and let it go 

I thought ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" was deprecated?

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Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?

2005-12-17 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 17 December 2005 21:55, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to 
write:
> On 12/17/05, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm obviously looking in the wrong places, but I can't find documentation
> > on getting udev to start at boot. Sound and a few other things you don't
> > notice right away fail to work until I do:
> > # udevstart
> > /dev/dsp is created with correct permissions and I'm good to go. The
> > question is:
> > How to I get udev to start at boot?
>
> Udevstart doesn't actually start udevd...it just rescans the devices
> and recreates device nodes.  The actual udev daemon is started by
> /sbin/rc, possibly via /lib/rc-scripts/add-ons/udev-start.sh depending
> upon your version of baselayout.

via /lib/rc-scripts/add-ons/ contains devfs start and stop and udev start and 
stop scripts.
/sbin/rc looks right
>
> Having RC_DEVICES=udev or auto should be sufficient to start udevd on
> startup.  Setting dev=udev in grub.conf is not necessary, and probably
> won't change anything.

Having RC_DEVICES=udev or auto 

Where??
>
> Now for your missing device nodes, maybe you just need to do:
>
> rc-update -a coldplug default
moved coldplug from boot to default no joy
>
> > kernel /bzImage-2.6.14-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda5 dev=udev
> > video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x317
> >
> > Also If you see why the boot complains about my video mode, feel free to
> > comment.
>
> 1. If you are using vesafb-tng, you cannot use vga= to set the video
> mode. It must be part of the video option like so:
> video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED],ywrap,mtrr

Thanks that did it
>
> 2. If you are not using vesafb-tng, you cannot use video=, so you
> should take out that option.
>
> -Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5

2005-12-17 Thread Samir Faci

Nick Rout wrote:


I see a lot of people seem to have upgraded to kde 3.5.

I am currently running kde 3.4.1 (installed via kde-meta) and stable is
3.4.3. However reports seem to be that 3.5.0 seems good enuf to work
with and I can't be bothered compiling 3.4.3 and then 3.5 later.

S, is there an easy way forward? I suspect I could enter a large
number of packages as ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords, or I could
ask here if there is an easier way.

Answers on the back of an envelope etc etc :-)

Oh and apologies if this is covered somewhere really basic and I missed
it, I did look, honest (and the wiki seems to be down for me today).

NRR
 

assuming you've done an emerge --sync with the past.. (what is month or 
so since kde 3.5 was unmasked? )  
just run emerge -u kde  (u for upgrade or heck even committing the -u, 
it still should work fine.)


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Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?

2005-12-17 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/17/05, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 17 December 2005 21:55, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to
> write:
> > Having RC_DEVICES=udev or auto should be sufficient to start udevd on
> > startup.  Setting dev=udev in grub.conf is not necessary, and probably
> > won't change anything.
>
> Having RC_DEVICES=udev or auto
>
> Where??

Sorry: /etc/conf.d/rc.

> > Now for your missing device nodes, maybe you just need to do:
> >
> > rc-update -a coldplug default
> moved coldplug from boot to default no joy

Is /dev/dsp actually missing on startup, or just created with the
wrong permissions?

Are you using a device tarball (RC_DEVICE_TARBALL in /etc/conf.d/rc)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5

2005-12-17 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/17/05, LostSon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 17 December 2005 21:17, Nick Rout wrote:
> > I see a lot of people seem to have upgraded to kde 3.5.
> >
> > I am currently running kde 3.4.1 (installed via kde-meta) and stable is
> > 3.4.3. However reports seem to be that 3.5.0 seems good enuf to work
> > with and I can't be bothered compiling 3.4.3 and then 3.5 later.
> >
> > S, is there an easy way forward? I suspect I could enter a large
> > number of packages as ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords, or I could
> > ask here if there is an easier way.
> >
> > Answers on the back of an envelope etc etc :-)
> >
> > Oh and apologies if this is covered somewhere really basic and I missed
> > it, I did look, honest (and the wiki seems to be down for me today).
> >
> > NRR
>
>   Hello
>  Simply use
>
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge kde

Except the next time you want to "emerge -Duv world", it will want to
downgrade.  Assuming you don't want a full ~x86 version, do:

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p kde-meta

This will give a list of all packages to add to
/etc/portage/package.keywords.  You can even automate this with:

for x in `ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p kde-meta | awk '{ print $4
}' | grep "/"`
do
echo "$x ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
done

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5

2005-12-17 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/17/05, Samir Faci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> assuming you've done an emerge --sync with the past.. (what is month or
> so since kde 3.5 was unmasked? )
> just run emerge -u kde  (u for upgrade or heck even committing the -u,
> it still should work fine.)

You have confused keyword masked with package masked.  You still need
the ~x86 keyword to use KDE 3.5.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5

2005-12-17 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:41:26 -0600
Samir Faci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nick Rout wrote:
> 
> >I see a lot of people seem to have upgraded to kde 3.5.
> >
> >I am currently running kde 3.4.1 (installed via kde-meta) and stable is
> >3.4.3. However reports seem to be that 3.5.0 seems good enuf to work
> >with and I can't be bothered compiling 3.4.3 and then 3.5 later.
> >
> >S, is there an easy way forward? I suspect I could enter a large
> >number of packages as ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords, or I could
> >ask here if there is an easier way.
> >
> >Answers on the back of an envelope etc etc :-)
> >
> >Oh and apologies if this is covered somewhere really basic and I missed
> >it, I did look, honest (and the wiki seems to be down for me today).
> >
> >NRR
> >  
> >
> assuming you've done an emerge --sync with the past.. (what is month or 
> so since kde 3.5 was unmasked? ) 

it doesn't look unmasked to me

http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=kde-meta


 
> just run emerge -u kde  (u for upgrade or heck even committing the -u, 
> it still should work fine.)
> 
> Samir
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Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?

2005-12-17 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 17 December 2005 22:48, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to 
write:
> On 12/17/05, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Saturday 17 December 2005 21:55, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish
> > to
> >
> > write:
> > > Having RC_DEVICES=udev or auto should be sufficient to start udevd on
> > > startup.  Setting dev=udev in grub.conf is not necessary, and probably
> > > won't change anything.
> >
> > Having RC_DEVICES=udev or auto
Changed from auto to udev no joy.
> >
> > Where??
>
> Sorry: /etc/conf.d/rc.
>
> > > Now for your missing device nodes, maybe you just need to do:
> > >
> > > rc-update -a coldplug default
> >
> > moved coldplug from boot to default no joy
>
> Is /dev/dsp actually missing on startup, or just created with the
> wrong permissions?

Apparently it has the wrong permissions, or so says the message when I start 
KDE,but if I reset them, next boot they are changed. Either resetting 
permissions, or doing # udevstart allows me to use /dev/dsp as user but 
changes don't survive a reboot.
>
> Are you using a device tarball (RC_DEVICE_TARBALL in /etc/conf.d/rc)?

Yes.
I've tried to read up on udev. but I guess I'm pretty thick headed. I do 
appreciate the hand holding.
>
> -Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5

2005-12-17 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 17 December 2005 22:57, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to 
write:
> On 12/17/05, LostSon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Saturday 17 December 2005 21:17, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > I see a lot of people seem to have upgraded to kde 3.5.
> > >
> > > I am currently running kde 3.4.1 (installed via kde-meta) and stable is
> > > 3.4.3. However reports seem to be that 3.5.0 seems good enuf to work
> > > with and I can't be bothered compiling 3.4.3 and then 3.5 later.
> > >
> > > S, is there an easy way forward? I suspect I could enter a large
> > > number of packages as ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords, or I could
> > > ask here if there is an easier way.
> > >
> > > Answers on the back of an envelope etc etc :-)
> > >
> > > Oh and apologies if this is covered somewhere really basic and I missed
> > > it, I did look, honest (and the wiki seems to be down for me today).
> > >
> > > NRR
> >
> >   Hello
> >  Simply use
> >
> > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge kde
>
> Except the next time you want to "emerge -Duv world", it will want to
> downgrade.  Assuming you don't want a full ~x86 version, do:
>
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p kde-meta
>
> This will give a list of all packages to add to
> /etc/portage/package.keywords.  You can even automate this with:
>
> for x in `ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p kde-meta | awk '{ print $4
> }' | grep "/"`
> do
> echo "$x ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
> done
>
> -Richard


Take it from me, do it as Richard says or you'll be in for a severe shock next 
emerge -ua world. I had to downgrade 72 packages that were brought in when I 
put ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line.

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[gentoo-user] Minor Startup Issue

2005-12-17 Thread C. Beamer
Hi all,

You'll probably think this is dumb, but what can I say?  I'm a bit anal
is some respects!  :-)

Today, I updated my desktop system and recompiled a new kernel. 
Afterwards I re-emerged alsa-driver and ati-drivers.

The update solved an issue with not being able to turn off or reboot the
computer when I selected either from the menu on KDE logout.  Everything
is working fine once KDE is launched.

When I recompiled the kernel, I decided to trim it down some.  I use
genkernel and mostly have left all the defaults in there except for the
pertinent parts for the alsa-driver and ati-drivers as outlined in the
associated Gentoo Guides.  However, since this is a desktop machine, I
figured it was safe to remove stuff associated with laptops, so that's
what I did.

Anyway, the problem is not that things aren't working.  It's that
something is happening differently and it's driving me nuts.

Up until now, when the computer boots and goes through its startup
routine, the screen will "blip" and then the text that is scrolling by
on the screen prior to starting the gui interface, reduces in size. 
Now, the screen still does a slight "blip", but  the screen font remains
the same size as it was prior to the "blip".

I have no idea how to fix this behaviour.  If someone knows and can
provide direction, I would appreciate it.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?

2005-12-17 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/17/05, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is /dev/dsp actually missing on startup, or just created with the
> > wrong permissions?
>
> Apparently it has the wrong permissions, or so says the message when I start
> KDE,but if I reset them, next boot they are changed. Either resetting
> permissions, or doing # udevstart allows me to use /dev/dsp as user but
> changes don't survive a reboot.

Hmm, /dev/dsp is only necessary for legacy OSS support...it should not
be necessary with KDE, which _should_ be able to use the ALSA
interface.  Do you have the alsa USE flag set?

What are the permissions that it is being created with?  (Do "ls -l
/dev/dsp" from a console after startup without logging into KDE).

> > Are you using a device tarball (RC_DEVICE_TARBALL in /etc/conf.d/rc)?
>
> Yes.

I would suggest turning TARBALL off.  It is almost certainly not needed today.

One possibility is that the device is comfing from the tarball, but
not being recreated by udev for some reason.  You can check this with:

tar -tjvf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2

Also, what messages do you get on bootup between "Starting udevd" and
"Mounting /dev/pts..."

Do you CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y or =m in your kernel configuration?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Minor Startup Issue

2005-12-17 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/17/05, C. Beamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Up until now, when the computer boots and goes through its startup
> routine, the screen will "blip" and then the text that is scrolling by
> on the screen prior to starting the gui interface, reduces in size.
> Now, the screen still does a slight "blip", but  the screen font remains
> the same size as it was prior to the "blip".

The 'blip' is usually when the framebuffer graphics driver turns on
and changes the video mode.  Since you are not seeing any difference,
either the framebuffer driver is failing, or you are now using just
the plain vga driver instead of something more advanced (like
vesafb-tng).

Take a look at what you have under "Device Drivers->Graphics Support",
the answer is probably in there.

Note that later in startup it is possible for the font size to change,
without a 'blip', when the consolefont service runs.  This is
configured by /etc/conf.d/consolefont.

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[gentoo-user] portage broken?

2005-12-17 Thread Martins Steinbergs
I was running update world and after portage was updated to 2.1_pre1 look what 
etc-update did to me. I dont have detailed build log, at least emerge.log 
shows nothing suspicious. good there is portage-rescue. Should I file bug? 
Yes, sometimes must pay for running ~amd64.


mar bin # etc-update
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/portage/bin/portageq", line 270, in ?
main()
  File "/usr/lib/portage/bin/portageq", line 260, in main
import portage
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 6786, in ?
portdb=portdbapi(settings["PORTDIR"])
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 4779, in __init__
self.auxdbmodule  = 
self.mysettings.load_best_module("portdbapi.auxdbmodule")
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 1287, in load_best_module
return load_mod(best_mod)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 145, in load_mod
mod = __import__(modname)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_db_cdb.py", line 17, in ?
import portage_db_template
ImportError: No module named portage_db_template
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/portage/bin/portageq", line 270, in ?
main()
  File "/usr/lib/portage/bin/portageq", line 260, in main
import portage
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 6786, in ?
portdb=portdbapi(settings["PORTDIR"])
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 4779, in __init__
self.auxdbmodule  = 
self.mysettings.load_best_module("portdbapi.auxdbmodule")
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 1287, in load_best_module
return load_mod(best_mod)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 145, in load_mod
mod = __import__(modname)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_db_cdb.py", line 17, in ?
import portage_db_template
ImportError: No module named portage_db_template
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/portage/bin/portageq", line 270, in ?
main()
  File "/usr/lib/portage/bin/portageq", line 260, in main
import portage
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 6786, in ?
portdb=portdbapi(settings["PORTDIR"])
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 4779, in __init__
self.auxdbmodule  = 
self.mysettings.load_best_module("portdbapi.auxdbmodule")
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 1287, in load_best_module
return load_mod(best_mod)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 145, in load_mod
mod = __import__(modname)
  File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_db_cdb.py", line 17, in ?
import portage_db_template
ImportError: No module named portage_db_template
Scanning Configuration files...
Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting. :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken?

2005-12-17 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
On (18/12/05 07:54), Martins Steinbergs wrote:
> I was running update world and after portage was updated to 2.1_pre1 look 
> what 
> etc-update did to me. I dont have detailed build log, at least emerge.log 
> shows nothing suspicious. good there is portage-rescue. Should I file bug? 
> Yes, sometimes must pay for running ~amd64.
> ...SKIP...
>   File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_db_cdb.py", line 17, in ?
> import portage_db_template
> ImportError: No module named portage_db_template
> Scanning Configuration files...
> Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting. :)
> 
> 
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A known problem with the new portage cache rewrite, solutions:
1.this ML sometime yesterday (three liner script);
2.this ML-mail from jstubbs (shortly do "emerge metadata") and disable 'cdb' if 
using it.
3.Check on http://dev.gentoo.org/~jstubbs (check again the name here);
4.Solution is also in Gentoo Forums.
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