date:20060112

On 12 January 2006 01:35, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:27:56 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > Uwe
> > (who is good for throwing these Chinese solid state thin clients, I
> > have got yesterday, out of the [wW]indows)
>
> I hope you are referring to computer hardware and not undernourished
> oriental customers :)

It's hardware, alright. And I could just confirm with the manufacturers that 
there, indeed, were two bugs in those thin clients.

Uwe

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[gentoo-user] ppp-2.4.3-r10.ebuild

2006-01-12 Thread Charles Trois

It's not easy to install things in Gentoo without Internet access, 
especially when it's about installing the Internet connexion itself.


My ISP uses PPPoA, and I have a Speedtouch USB modem, the installation 
of which requires ppp-2.4.3. This is not provided by the distfiles, so I 
used a tarball downloaded under MacOS, which I installed in the ordinary 
way (which is not the Gentoo way). The Speedtouch pages say that one should


(1) write PEER="speedtch" in /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 (speedtch is the 
name 		of the modem config file)


(2) run 	"rc-update add net.ppp0 default"		in order 	that ppp0 start at 
boot.


Thus installed, the thing works, but only up to a point, in that

(3) I have to run  "pppd call speedtch"  to start ppp, and

(4) I must change the default route from eth0 to ppp0 to make the 
name 			resolution work.


Supposing that these difficulties might result from a bad installation 
of ppp-2.4.3, and Internet now being available, I looked for a proper 
emerge, and found ppp-2.4.3-r10.ebuild, which I installed, unmasking it 
for ~ppc (this is an iMac). That was ok, but the note at the end says 
that /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 is no longer used and that everything goes 
through pppd. Then (2) above does no longer make sense, and I am not 
sure about (1).


I tried to run pppd just to see, but there was no result (although no 
error). From the script, it seems that it might give some messages, but 
there was nothing.


How does it work? What should I do instead of (1) and (2), and shall I 
be rid of (3) and (4)?


I'll be grateful for all hints.

Charles





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[gentoo-user] external usb hard drive problem

2006-01-12 Thread Stefan Riha

Hi!

Yesterday I bought an external hard drive (lacie, 250 GB, usb 2.0).
I did 
>fdisk /dev/sda1
and created a single primary partition.
this creates /dev/sda1p1 or something like that.
(could my problem have to do with the fact that I didn't do
>fdisk /dev/sda 
instead? I mean, without the 1 at the end of the line?)

Then I did 
>mke2fs -j /dev/sda1
>mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/external

and it worked.
Now the problem is that when I copy data from my computers hard drive to
the external drive, the process often hangs up. In KDE's copy process 
window appears "stalled".
This happens even more often if I copy from another external hard drive on
my external hard drive. Both of these hang on the USB 2 pci card with four 
slots.
When these two things happen, the green light on the ext. harddrive (ehd) is 
burning.
That means it's working on something.
If I try to unmount the ehd, it doesn't work of course, because the copying
process is still active. If I kill this process with
>kill -9 PID
it can't be killed.
The only thing I can think of is 
>shutdown 
The real big problem is that I cannot remount the ehd again. 
When I do 
>mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/external
there is no error message, but the process is never terminated.
The cursor jumps to the next line and nothing happens,
except that the green light on the ehd starts burning.
Seems like the Filesystem is destroyed? If I do 
>fdisk /dev/sda1 
there is a line telling about some flag that will be removed when
I press w(rite). I'm sorry, my computer isn't connected to the net,
so I can't give you the exact messages.

Did I use the right format (ext3)?
What's the command for formating in xfs?
I use genkernel 2.4 (and don't want to upgrade), is that part of the problem?

Thanks for the help,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Practical Backup Solution

2006-01-12 Thread Matthias Bethke

Hi Lord,
on Wednesday, 2006-01-11 at 18:25:32, you wrote:
> (it's an Iomega ditto QIC-80 parallel port floppy-protocol tape drive).  I 
> also bought a very low quality DVD+RW drive (MagicSpin non-MMC, non-Ricoh - 

Beh. A faster solution with similar security to either one would be a
tar -cf/dev/null /
If you're concerned mainly about FS errors, accidental deletes and such,
I'd also suggest a second harddrive. It's relatively cheap, very fast,
random-access and pretty secure. If on top of that you want protection
against things like overvoltage, lightning etc. that might fry your
whole system, you need some removable media like MO or tape. I used a
DAT streamer for quite a while. DAT doesn't have the best tapes either,
they wear out pretty quickly, but both tapes and drives are cheap
nowadays and more than adequate for your amount of data. MO has a good
reputation too but I don't have any experience with it. It seems a bit
out of fashion today so you may be able to get a good deal on a drive.

cheers!
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Re: [gentoo-user] X.org V7.0 partial success

2006-01-12 Thread Matthias Bethke

Hi Richard,
on Wednesday, 2006-01-11 at 18:22:37, you wrote:
> I think it is important to note that these names were not invented by
> the Gentoo devs working the ebuildsthey are straight from the
> x.org project's distribution [1].

Ah, OK, thanks for clarifying that! After reading their glossary I still
don't really understand their nomenclature, but if that's how they want
the packages to be named it's certainly a good idea to adhere to that
scheme.

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Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way

2006-01-12 Thread Ernie Schroder

On Thursday 12 January 2006 05:14, a tiny voice compelled Uwe Thiem to write:

> It's hardware, alright. And I could just confirm with the manufacturers
> that there, indeed, were two bugs in those thin clients.
>
some  penicillin should take care of that
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[gentoo-user] Re: Evolution and the gnome clock applet

2006-01-12 Thread Peter

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:45:21 -0500, Andrew Frink wrote:

> Has anyone noticed that evolution and the gnome clock applet show
> different starting times. mine show events starting 1 hour later than they
> actully do.
> 
> Cynyr.Has anyone noticed that evolution and the gnome clock applet show
> different starting times. mine show events starting 1 hour later than they
> actully do. Cynyr.

check the timezone under Preferences/Calander amd Tasks


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[gentoo-user] after update, eth0 won't work

2006-01-12 Thread Alan E. Davis

I did a# emerge -uDv world on a ~x86 box.  Seems like something
has happened to networking.

  lo is not configuring properly
  eth0 is not configuring properly.

I sense there are problems with dbus and maybe hal.

The following is received

# /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
   * Starting eth0
   *Bringing up eth0
   *   "10.20.20.5"
   *   No loaded modules provide ""10.10.10.5"" ("10.10.10.5"_start)

I had started the update last night; this evening I tried to do some
networking, with no result.

Can someone suggest an idea of what is going on?

Thank you again,

Alan Davis

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RE: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Kintzios



> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 11 January 2006 12:42
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo
> 
> 
> box: Prostar 2.8Gig ProStar Laptop  w/60 Gig, 7200 rpm hard 
> drive, 1 Gig Ram
> Current configuration:
> XP factory installed on 30gig partition
> Suse v9.0 installed on 20gig partition ext2,  1 Gig SWAP
> 
> Goal:
> 1. Remove Suse.
> 2. Format 20 gig with Reisersf
> Leave Grub
> Install Gentoo
> Install VMware.
> 
> Question:
> Can I install Gentoo over Suse or should I start over on a 
> clean hard drive.
> 
> Option I am considering:
> Start with a new hard drive, install Gentoo, VMware and then 
> run XP as a 
> virtual machine.
> Please advise.
> 
> Background:
> I have installed Gentoo from Stage1 on a P3 600 Compaq Deskpro EN and 
> Kubuntu on another Compaq Deskpro EN.
> But consider myself a Gentoo novice.
> 
> This is my first email to the list.
> Thanks in advance for any help,

Welcome to the list Steve!  :-)

As you probably know there's more than one ways to skin a cat, so I only
express my preferences here;  yours could be entirely different.  I
would leave the factory installed WinXP alone.  Back up and thereafter
remove all personal files and data from My Documents/Music/etc.  Use
Qtparted or Partition Magic, or whatever to shrink it down to 10-12G.
Make sure that you defrag it a few times (before each successive
shrinking).

Then install Gentoo in the remaining space - preferably in primary
partitions (it may give you an infinitesimally small increase in drive
access/read/write speed).  Assuming you are using the default three
partition installation, then have swap first, root second, then an
extended partition and in logical partition(s) you can fit home if you
want it separately and boot last.  Bringing Grub up could take an extra
second but running the rest of the system should benefit
proportionately.

You can also create a vfat partition (personally I would put it on the
second drive) and map all applications in WinXP to use that to save My
Docs/Music/etc.- This would be your shared partitions to be able to
access files from all OS'.

With 1G RAM I would not have a swap partition any larger than 120M.  As
a matter of fact even that could be an overkill, but you never know.  A
single swap partition would do nicely for both Linuxes (change your
/fstab accordingly).   Size:  a lot depends on what you use your system
for, how often you reboot/flush your swap, logs and how many buggy
applications you're running.  Just as an indication on a 256M RAM box I
am using a 145M swap partition which I have never seen filling up more
than 75M.  Even that only happened when Opera was caching all sort of
chinese type fonts like mad and OOo was compiling at the same time.
Otherwise even large compiles (KDE monolithic) struggle to use more than
65M.  For reasons mentioned above your mileage may vary.

Of course if you want to go multi-partition insane you could do what
I've done and install Gentoo spread across multiple partitions on two
drives/separate controllers to allow parallel access/processing by the
CPU.  A pain to back up but entertaining all the same if you like that
sort of thing!  8-D

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Re: [gentoo-user] after update, eth0 won't work

2006-01-12 Thread Ernie Schroder

On Thursday 12 January 2006 08:44, a tiny voice compelled Alan E. Davis to 
write:
 
> I did a# emerge -uDv world on a ~x86 box.  Seems like something
> has happened to networking.
> 
>   lo is not configuring properly
>   eth0 is not configuring properly.
> 
> I sense there are problems with dbus and maybe hal.
> 
> The following is received
> 
> # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
>* Starting eth0
>*Bringing up eth0
>*   "10.20.20.5"
>*   No loaded modules provide ""10.10.10.5"" ("10.10.10.5"_start)
> 
> I had started the update last night; this evening I tried to do some
> networking, with no result.
> 
> Can someone suggest an idea of what is going on?
> 
> Thank you again,



check /etc/conf.d/net My bet is that you did # etc-update and borked it 
somehow
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Re: [gentoo-user] ppp-2.4.3-r10.ebuild

On 12 January 2006 13:39, Charles Trois wrote:
> It's not easy to install things in Gentoo without Internet access,
> especially when it's about installing the Internet connexion itself.
>
> My ISP uses PPPoA, and I have a Speedtouch USB modem, the installation
> of which requires ppp-2.4.3. This is not provided by the distfiles, so I
> used a tarball downloaded under MacOS, which I installed in the ordinary
> way (which is not the Gentoo way). The Speedtouch pages say that one should
>
> (1) write PEER="speedtch" in /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 (speedtch is the
> name  of the modem config file)
>
> (2) run   "rc-update add net.ppp0 default"in order
> that ppp0 start at
> boot.
>
> Thus installed, the thing works, but only up to a point, in that
>
> (3) I have to run  "pppd call speedtch"  to start ppp, and

Maybe that PEER line in /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 has to contain the full path.

>
> (4) I must change the default route from eth0 to ppp0 to make the
> name  resolution work.

If there is already a default route pppd cannot change it. There should be a 
message about it in your log files. Do you really need a default route when 
not connected? Probably not. In that case just don't define it 
in /etc/conf.d/net. Pppd should then be able to create a default route. If 
you do need it when not connected add two lines to /etc/ppp/ip-up that delete 
the old default route and create a new one. Of course, you then also need two 
new lines in /etc/ppp/ip-down that change it back.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] after update, eth0 won't work

On 12 January 2006 15:44, Alan E. Davis wrote:
> I did a# emerge -uDv world on a ~x86 box.  Seems like something
> has happened to networking.
>
>   lo is not configuring properly
>   eth0 is not configuring properly.
>
> I sense there are problems with dbus and maybe hal.
>
> The following is received
>
> # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
>* Starting eth0
>*Bringing up eth0
>*   "10.20.20.5"
>*   No loaded modules provide ""10.10.10.5"" ("10.10.10.5"_start)
>

Did you do an etc-update?

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness with KDE 3.4

Thanks Willie. As I think of it, I probably should have submitted this
as 2 posts, but figured that it's probably just something not right
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Can't help with all your problems, but I do what I can:On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:49:34PM -0500, Penguin Lover Shawn Singh squawked:> Hey all,>> I recently rebuilt my Gentoo box, but have had a few problems that
> I've not been able to figure out:>> 1. The sound doesn't work> i.e. I can't play any music files (mp3s, wavs etc) -- in xmms I> get an error telling me that it failed>>  to load the oss  
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Re: [gentoo-user] external usb hard drive problem

2006-01-12 Thread Richard Fish

On 1/12/06, Stefan Riha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Yesterday I bought an external hard drive (lacie, 250 GB, usb 2.0).
> I did
> >fdisk /dev/sda1
> and created a single primary partition.
> this creates /dev/sda1p1 or something like that.
> (could my problem have to do with the fact that I didn't do
> >fdisk /dev/sda
> instead? I mean, without the 1 at the end of the line?)

Normally, yes, you would want "fdisk /dev/sda".  What you did is
partition a partition...

But if you are only going to use a single partition, you actually
don't need to partition it at all.  You can simply:

# be really damn careful to type this correctly!!
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
printf "w\n" | fdisk /dev/sda
mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda
mount /dev/sda /mnt/external

> and it worked.
> Now the problem is that when I copy data from my computers hard drive to
> the external drive, the process often hangs up. In KDE's copy process
> window appears "stalled".

There are some cases when this is normal (like if the drive is working
at USB1.1 speeds, writing at 1M/sec.  With a lot of ram (like 500M?,
then the copy can stall for 7-8 minutes at a time as the buffers get
flushed to disk).  You could also get this if you use the old/slow USB
driver.

We need some more details of your kernel configuration. Are you using
the ehci and usb-storage drivers?  Can you post the dmesg output from
when you turn on the drive?

> The real big problem is that I cannot remount the ehd again.
> When I do
> >mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/external
> there is no error message, but the process is never terminated.
> The cursor jumps to the next line and nothing happens,
> except that the green light on the ehd starts burning.
> Seems like the Filesystem is destroyed?

Could be the journal trying to fix the filesystem...and again, taking
forever to do it.

> Did I use the right format (ext3)?
> What's the command for formating in xfs?

The filesystem type isn't important.  ext3 is fine.

> I use genkernel 2.4 (and don't want to upgrade), is that part of the problem?

lspci and dmesg output please.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness with KDE 3.4

2006-01-12 Thread Holly Bostick

Shawn Singh schreef:
> Hey all,
> 
> I recently rebuilt my Gentoo box, but have had a few problems that 
> I've not been able to figure out:
> 
> 2. Only 1 user shows up in KDE, even though I have 2 users for the
> system.
> 

What does this mean? Are you saying that one of your users doesn't show
up in the KDM "click my little image to set me as the user about to log
in" screen (but the other one does)? Or something else?

Is the user valid? Can the user log in via either typing their name in
the Username box in KDM, or by using the button to go to a console login
and logging in from there?

If so, then the issue is likely with KDM just not having settings for
that user, or the user id is out of the range that KDM shows by default,
or that that user is hidden in KDM, the way root is by default. I'd
check out the KDE Control Center=> System Administration=> Login
Manager=> Administrator Mode=> Users tab and see if something rings a
bell there.

If the user is in fact not valid (can't log in at all) then of course
the problem is likely not with KDE-- and if you mean something else by
"only one user shows up, even though I have two users for the system",
then you'd have to tell me/us what precisely that is, as I at least
cannot even guess :-) .

HTH,
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[gentoo-user] gentoo on xeon with 64 bits extention

2006-01-12 Thread Catalin Neagoe


Hi folks,

Anyone knows if there is gentoo for  xeon with 64 bits extention?
'cause I've seen that there are only amd_64,ppc64 and sparc64 gentoo 
versions.

Am I wrong?

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Re: [gentoo-user] after update, eth0 won't work

2006-01-12 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 23:44:38 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:

> # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
>* Starting eth0
>*Bringing up eth0
>*   "10.20.20.5"
>*   No loaded modules provide ""10.10.10.5"" ("10.10.10.5"_start)
> 
> I had started the update last night; this evening I tried to do some
> networking, with no result.

This looks like the error I got with Bash 3.1 and baselayout <1.12.0_pre13.

Some idea as to what you updated would be helpful. What does "genlop
--date tuesday" show? (emerge genlop if not present)


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Re: [gentoo-user] after update, eth0 won't work

2006-01-12 Thread Holly Bostick

Neil Bothwick schreef:

> Some idea as to what you updated would be helpful. What does "genlop
> --date tuesday" show? (emerge genlop if not present)

If unfamiliar with genlop, the correct format for the command Neil
probably intends is

genlop --list --date 01/10/2006

(at least that's the only way I could get it to work)

:-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] after update, eth0 won't work

2006-01-12 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:17:24 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:

> > Some idea as to what you updated would be helpful. What does "genlop
> > --date tuesday" show? (emerge genlop if not present)
> 
> If unfamiliar with genlop, the correct format for the command Neil
> probably intends is
> 
> genlop --list --date 01/10/2006

Sorry, I missed out the "--list", but "--date tuesday" or any other day,
will work. When I hit a problem like this, "genlop --list --date yesterday"
is one of my first actions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]

2006-01-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

On Thursday 12 January 2006 03:57, "Michael Kintzios" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] su stopped 
working [SOLVED]':
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:34:24PM -, Michael Kintzios wrote
> >
> > > This can be avoided if you use the -a (for append) option.
> >
> >   Huh???
> >
> > [m3000][root][~] usermod -a -G audio user2
> > usermod: invalid option -- a
> > Usage: usermod  [-u uid [-o]] [-g group] [-G group,...]
> > [-d home [-m]] [-s shell] [-c comment] [-l new_name]
> > [-f inactive] [-e expire] [-p passwd] [-L|-U] name
> >
> >  I RTFM'd, and I don't see any mention of "-a" in usermod.  I use
> > gpasswd with the "-a" option.  Is that what you meant?
>
> No, I meant that the -a option should be used instead of -G if you want
> to append as opposed to replace the group set of a user.
>
> What happens when you run:
> # usermod -a audio user2

I'm fairly sure the -a option is a fairly recent addition to usermod.  I 
have it on my system (~amd64) provided by sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r1 but 
the latest stable (amd64 and x86) is only sys-apps/shadow-4.0.7-r4.

Also, when I used -a, it was required to be /in addition to/ supplimentary 
groups passed to the -G flag, as Walter tried the first time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on xeon with 64 bits extention

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Owen

On 1/12/06, Catalin Neagoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Anyone knows if there is gentoo for  xeon with 64 bits extention?
> 'cause I've seen that there are only amd_64,ppc64 and sparc64 gentoo
> versions.
> Am I wrong?
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Catalin

Even though it's called "amd64", it's for all x86_64 machines. I
believe at one time it was actually called x86_64, but then because
amd was the only one with an x86 compatible CPU, it was renamed to
amd64.

So yes, use the amd64 profile even though it's an em64t machine.

Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness with KDE 3.4

Thanks Holly. The user can login from the console. The user's icon
doesn't show in the list of users. Come to think of it, neither does my
user show in the list. I can key in my username and password to
authenticate, so I suspect (that since the other user can login from
the console) she'll be able to do likewise

I guess the correct question to have asked is why won't my user's show up in the list of users?

Thanks for the input.

ShawnOn 1/12/06, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Shawn Singh schreef:> Hey all,>> I recently rebuilt my Gentoo box, but have had a few problems that> I've not been able to figure out:>> 2. Only 1 user shows up in KDE, even though I have 2 users for the
> system.>What does this mean? Are you saying that one of your users doesn't showup in the KDM "click my little image to set me as the user about to login" screen (but the other one does)? Or something else?
Is the user valid? Can the user log in via either typing their name inthe Username box in KDM, or by using the button to go to a console loginand logging in from there?If so, then the issue is likely with KDM just not having settings for
that user, or the user id is out of the range that KDM shows by default,or that that user is hidden in KDM, the way root is by default. I'dcheck out the KDE Control Center=> System Administration=> Login
Manager=> Administrator Mode=> Users tab and see if something rings abell there.If the user is in fact not valid (can't log in at all) then of coursethe problem is likely not with KDE-- and if you mean something else by
"only one user shows up, even though I have two users for the system",then you'd have to tell me/us what precisely that is, as I at leastcannot even guess :-) .HTH,Holly--
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Re: [gentoo-user] cyrus-sasl, courier-authlib, which one? or both?

2006-01-12 Thread kashani


Steffen Zieger wrote:
 > SASL-Authentication for Postfix (and maybe Cyrus-Imap, I've not 
checked it
right now) is also possible through *SQL without the need of Pam using 
cyrus-sasl.


cyrus-sasl _must_ be compiled with support for MySQL or something like that.

Content of my /etc/sasl2/smtpd.conf:
pwcheck_method: auxprop
auxprop_plugin: sql
mech_list: PLAIN LOGIN
log_level: 1
password_format: crypt

sql_engine: mysql
sql_hostnames: localhost
sql_user: USER
sql_passwd: PASSWORD
sql_database: Hosting
sql_select: SQL_SELECT_STRING
sql_verbose: no
sql_usessl: no


Looks like I'm a bit behind the curve. Good to know you can just connect 
directly. In other weirdness the Gentoo Virtual How-to manages to use 
the old cyrus-sasl config that went with pam_mysql and then dropped 
pam_mysql from the how-to. Then went on to mention using authlib, 
without actually compiling any support for it or changing the config.


gah.

kashani
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RE: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Kintzios



> -Original Message-
> From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 12 January 2006 15:38
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]
> 
> 
> On Thursday 12 January 2006 03:57, "Michael Kintzios" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] 
> su stopped 
> working [SOLVED]':
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:34:24PM -, Michael Kintzios wrote
> > >
> > > > This can be avoided if you use the -a (for append) option.
> > >
> > >   Huh???
> > >
> > > [m3000][root][~] usermod -a -G audio user2
> > > usermod: invalid option -- a
> > > Usage: usermod  [-u uid [-o]] [-g group] [-G group,...]
> > > [-d home [-m]] [-s shell] [-c comment] 
> [-l new_name]
> > > [-f inactive] [-e expire] [-p passwd] [-L|-U] name
> > >
> > >  I RTFM'd, and I don't see any mention of "-a" in usermod.  I use
> > > gpasswd with the "-a" option.  Is that what you meant?
> >
> > No, I meant that the -a option should be used instead of -G 
> if you want
> > to append as opposed to replace the group set of a user.
> >
> > What happens when you run:
> > # usermod -a audio user2
> 
> I'm fairly sure the -a option is a fairly recent addition to 
> usermod.  I 
> have it on my system (~amd64) provided by 
> sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r1 but 
> the latest stable (amd64 and x86) is only sys-apps/shadow-4.0.7-r4.
> 
> Also, when I used -a, it was required to be /in addition to/ 
> supplimentary 
> groups passed to the -G flag, as Walter tried the first time.

Oops, sorry, I wasn't at my box to try it out.  I could bet that it was
part of the stable . . . 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness with KDE 3.4

with regard to the problem with sound...

Not only does xmms not play music (and throws an error), but mplayer
doesn't play any sound. It will open a movie file and play it, but no
sound is playing.

It seems as though their is some global setting that isn't right, or that something is going on with the driver.On 1/12/06, Shawn Singh <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Thanks Holly. The user can login from the console. The user's icon
doesn't show in the list of users. Come to think of it, neither does my
user show in the list. I can key in my username and password to
authenticate, so I suspect (that since the other user can login from
the console) she'll be able to do likewise

I guess the correct question to have asked is why won't my user's show up in the list of users?

Thanks for the input.

ShawnOn 1/12/06, Holly Bostick <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Shawn Singh schreef:> Hey all,>> I recently rebuilt my Gentoo box, but have had a few problems that> I've not been able to figure out:>> 2. Only 1 user shows up in KDE, even though I have 2 users for the
> system.>What does this mean? Are you saying that one of your users doesn't showup in the KDM "click my little image to set me as the user about to login" screen (but the other one does)? Or something else?
Is the user valid? Can the user log in via either typing their name inthe Username box in KDM, or by using the button to go to a console loginand logging in from there?If so, then the issue is likely with KDM just not having settings for
that user, or the user id is out of the range that KDM shows by default,or that that user is hidden in KDM, the way root is by default. I'dcheck out the KDE Control Center=> System Administration=> Login
Manager=> Administrator Mode=> Users tab and see if something rings abell there.If the user is in fact not valid (can't log in at all) then of coursethe problem is likely not with KDE-- and if you mean something else by
"only one user shows up, even though I have two users for the system",then you'd have to tell me/us what precisely that is, as I at leastcannot even guess :-) .HTH,Holly--

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Re: [SPAM] - [gentoo-user] Re: A New Linux Way (This is a Joke, laff will ya?) - Bayesian Filter detected spam

2006-01-12 Thread Harald Arnesen

Devon Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> *Dear Gentoo-User,*

This can't be the real thing. You don't write the whole post in
capital letters.
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[gentoo-user] Clock applet in GNOME

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Sullivan

My clock applet in GNOME keeps dying.  I tried re-emerging
gnome-applets.  After it got finished re-emerging I issued a killall
gnome-panel, but when it reloaded the clock still crashed.  Any advice
on this one?

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[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on xeon with 64 bits extention

2006-01-12 Thread Francesco Talamona

On Thursday 12 January 2006 15:45, Catalin Neagoe wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Anyone knows if there is gentoo for  xeon with 64 bits extention?
> 'cause I've seen that there are only amd_64,ppc64 and sparc64 gentoo
> versions.
> Am I wrong?

I have at work a dual xeon EMT64 running Gentoo.

Choose "amd64" flavour.

I already know your next question will be about cflags ;-) ...
see this link: 

http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags

Ciao
Francesco
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[gentoo-user] Emerge is "Waiting for lirc_client.o.lock to be removed"

2006-01-12 Thread Drew Tomlinson

I've got some weirdness going on with my system after an upgrade.  Seems 
that some things that were compiled with gcc 3.3 don't want to run with 
a kernel that was compiled with gcc 3.4.  I'm not sure of this but 
that's my guess, especially after re-emerging a few packages (that one 
doesn't normally have to re-emerge after a kernel upgrade) and they 
suddenly stop seg faulting.


So anyway, I thought I'd just re-emerge my entire system with 'emerge 
-vuDNe1 world'.  It was chuggin' along fine until it hit 
app-misc/lirc-0.7.2.  The build starts, goes through configure, and 
actually begins compiling, and then starts "waiting" here:


gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall -c `test -f irxevent.c || echo './'`irxevent.c

`-mcpu=' is deprecated. Use `-mtune=' or '-march=' instead.
source='xmode2.c' object='xmode2.o' libtool=no \
depfile='.deps/xmode2.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/xmode2.TPo' \
depmode=gcc3 /bin/sh ../depcomp \
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall -c `test -f xmode2.c || echo './'`xmode2.c

`-mcpu=' is deprecated. Use `-mtune=' or '-march=' instead.
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall   -o irw  irw.o 
Waiting for lirc_client.o.lock to be removed

mkdir .libs
gcc -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall -o 
irw irw.o
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall   -o mode2  mode2.o 
gcc -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall -o 
mode2 mode2.o
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall   -o irsend  irsend.o 
gcc -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall -o 
irsend irsend.o
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall   -o smode2  smode2.o -lvga -lvgagl

Waiting for lirc_client.o.lock to be removed
gcc -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall -o 
smode2 smode2.o  -lvga -lvgagl
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall   -o xmode2  xmode2.o -lSM -lICE -lX11 
gcc -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=athlon-xp -pipe -Wall -o 
xmode2 xmode2.o  -lSM -lICE -lX11

Waiting for lirc_client.o.lock to be removed
Waiting for lirc_client.o.lock to be removed
Waiting for lirc_client.o.lock to be removed
Waiting for lirc_client.o.lock to be removed
Waiting for lirc_client.o.lock to be removed
sandbox:  Caught signal 2 in pid 30088

I've stopped lircd, removed all lirc kernel modules, searched the entire 
file system for a file named "lirc_client.o.lock", searched Google for 
the same, even rebooted, and am still stuck at this point.  I keep using 
'emerge --resume' to retry as i don't want to rebuild the 130+ things 
that have already been built.  I just want to continue with the 
remaining 250+.


Any ideas on how to overcome this hurdle?

Thanks,

Drew

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness with KDE 3.4

2006-01-12 Thread Holly Bostick

Shawn Singh schreef:
> Thanks Holly. The user can login from the console. The user's icon doesn't
> show in the list of users. Come to think of it, neither does my user show in
> the list. I can key in my username and password to authenticate, so I
> suspect (that since the other user can login from the console) she'll be
> able to do likewise
> 
> I guess the correct question to have asked is why won't my user's show up in
> the list of users?
> 
Have you looked in

> On 1/12/06, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> the KDE Control Center=> System Administration=> Login
>>Manager=> Administrator Mode=> Users tab 

?
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Re: [gentoo-user] PowerPC - cannot boot from CD.

2006-01-12 Thread Anthony Roy

Cheers dude - I'll give it a shot tomorrow! Off to bed now...
...
> At the prompt, type:
> boot cd:,\\:tbxi
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on xeon with 64 bits extention

2006-01-12 Thread Catalin Neagoe


Francesco Talamona wrote:

On Thursday 12 January 2006 15:45, Catalin Neagoe wrote:


Hi folks,

Anyone knows if there is gentoo for  xeon with 64 bits extention?
'cause I've seen that there are only amd_64,ppc64 and sparc64 gentoo
versions.
Am I wrong?



I have at work a dual xeon EMT64 running Gentoo.

Choose "amd64" flavour.

I already know your next question will be about cflags ;-) ...
see this link: 


http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags

Ciao
Francesco


Thank you and Mike for your answers, cause the amd64 arch name was not 
leading me to thinking that is generic for x86_64 at all :)
well, the next Q might be actually something related to a driver for the 
raid controller on that machine.
It's a SATA SCSI controller (it is an IBM if I remeber) and there is a 
CD with the driver (for RHEL or Suse Enterpr. of course :)), and I will 
wonder myself how I will detect and use the raid arrays. well I hope 
I'll figure it out.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge is "Waiting for lirc_client.o.lock to be removed"

2006-01-12 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:45:30 -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

> I've stopped lircd, removed all lirc kernel modules, searched the
> entire file system for a file named "lirc_client.o.lock", searched
> Google for the same, even rebooted, and am still stuck at this point.
> I keep using 'emerge --resume' to retry as i don't want to rebuild the
> 130+ things that have already been built.  I just want to continue with
> the remaining 250+.
> 
> Any ideas on how to overcome this hurdle?

The short term fix is to use emerge --resume --skipfirst to continue with
the next package in the list. It (probably) won't help fix the lircd
problem, but it will let you emerge everything else.


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getting performance from Windows is like getting blood from a stone -
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge is "Waiting for lirc_client.o.lock to be removed"

2006-01-12 Thread Drew Tomlinson


On 1/12/2006 10:59 AM Neil Bothwick said the following:


On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:45:30 -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

 


I've stopped lircd, removed all lirc kernel modules, searched the
entire file system for a file named "lirc_client.o.lock", searched
Google for the same, even rebooted, and am still stuck at this point.
I keep using 'emerge --resume' to retry as i don't want to rebuild the
130+ things that have already been built.  I just want to continue with
the remaining 250+.

Any ideas on how to overcome this hurdle?
   



The short term fix is to use emerge --resume --skipfirst to continue with
the next package in the list. It (probably) won't help fix the lircd
problem, but it will let you emerge everything else.
 



Cool.  Thanks for getting me going again.  lirc is working anyway and 
probably doesn't need rebuilding.  Wonder why I didn't see "skipfirst"?


Drew

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[gentoo-user] New Macs

2006-01-12 Thread Mark

I got an email from Apple this morning announcing the new Intel-based
Macs. I was wondering if anyone knew whether one of the Gentoo Intel
flavors would run on those systems or whether that would be a whole
different build
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Evolution and the gnome clock applet [SOLVED]

2006-01-12 Thread Andrew Frink

On 1/12/06, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:45:21 -0500, Andrew Frink wrote:> Has anyone noticed that evolution and the gnome clock applet show> different starting times. mine show events starting 1 hour later than they
> actully do.
>> Cynyr.Has anyone noticed that evolution and the gnome clock applet show> different starting times. mine show events starting 1 hour later than they> actully do. Cynyr.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Macs

2006-01-12 Thread Andrew Frink

On 1/12/06, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I got an email from Apple this morning announcing the new Intel-basedMacs. I was wondering if anyone knew whether one of the Gentoo Intelflavors would run on those systems or whether that would be a wholedifferent build
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to compile 64bit Gentoo on a 32bit system?

2006-01-12 Thread Zac Medico


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Abhay Kedia wrote:
| On Thursday 12 January 2006 13:04, Zac Medico wrote:
|> Well, you can't convert the 32 bit userland directly to 64 bit.  However,
|> you can run the 32 bit userland with a 64 bit kernel.  For example, you can
|> borrow the kernel from the amd64 minimal install cd.  The 64 bit kernel
|> behaves essentially the same as the 32 bit one, so you only need to setup
|> the bootloader like you normally would.  After you've booted into a 64 bit
|> kernel, you will be able to chroot from your 32 bit userland into a 64 bit
|> stage3 and build your new system.
|>
| Wow!!! That sounds the perfect solution. Is it possible? I just compile a 
| 64bit kernel and chroot will be possible? Is there a place I can download the 
| kernel from?


You can boot off of the cd and build a kernel immediately or you can copy the 
cd's kernel.  When booted from the cd, the kernel is found at 
/mnt/cdrom/isolinux/gentoo-em64t and corresponding modules are in /lib/modules. 
 The install cd and stages are available from the /releases/amd64/2005.1-r1/ 
directory on the mirrors.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness with KDE 3.4

No I haven't. I'll be sure to do that when I get home.On 1/12/06, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Shawn Singh schreef:> Thanks Holly. The user can login from the console. The user's icon doesn't
> show in the list of users. Come to think of it, neither does my user show in> the list. I can key in my username and password to authenticate, so I> suspect (that since the other user can login from the console) she'll be
> able to do likewise>> I guess the correct question to have asked is why won't my user's show up in> the list of users?>Have you looked in> On 1/12/06, Holly Bostick <
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Re: [gentoo-user] after update, eth0 won't work

2006-01-12 Thread Alan E. Davis

Here's from genlop.  (Many of these were merged after the problem showed up):

# genlop --list --date two days ago
[1;34m * app-shells/bash

[0m Thu Jan 12 01:36:12 2006 >>>[1;32m app-shells/bash-3.1_p5
[0m Thu Jan 12 01:36:42 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.13-r1
[0m Thu Jan 12 02:19:28 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5
[0m Thu Jan 12 02:20:00 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-libs/timezone-data-2005r
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:16:58 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r2
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:18:52 2006 >>>[1;32m dev-lang/tcl-8.4.11-r1
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:22:50 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r1
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:24:25 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:24:54 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre13-r1
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:32:56 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:33:19 2006 >>>[1;32m media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.11_rc2
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:37:53 2006 >>>[1;32m media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.11_rc2
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:38:27 2006 >>>[1;32m media-plugins/alsa-jack-1.0.10
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:38:35 2006 >>>[1;32m app-misc/ca-certificates-20050804
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:40:52 2006 >>>[1;32m dev-lang/tk-8.4.11-r1
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:41:10 2006 >>>[1;32m app-misc/pax-utils-0.1.6
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:42:14 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-apps/man-pages-2.20
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:50:09 2006 >>>[1;32m net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r5
[0m Thu Jan 12 03:50:58 2006 >>>[1;32m media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.11_rc2
[0m Thu Jan 12 04:14:56 2006 >>>[1;32m dev-libs/glib-2.8.5
[0m Thu Jan 12 04:19:23 2006 >>>[1;32m app-text/poppler-0.4.3-r4
[0m Thu Jan 12 04:25:15 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-apps/dbus-0.60-r3
[0m Thu Jan 12 04:25:53 2006 >>>[1;32m dev-lang/nasm-0.98.39-r3
[0m Thu Jan 12 04:29:28 2006 >>>[1;32m media-libs/libogg-1.1.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 04:40:19 2006 >>>[1;32m media-libs/libvorbis-1.1.2
[0m Thu Jan 12 04:44:18 2006 >>>[1;32m media-libs/netpbm-10.31-r1
[0m Thu Jan 12 04:44:32 2006 >>>[1;32m app-portage/portage-utils-0.1.11
[0m Thu Jan 12 04:51:57 2006 >>>[1;32m media-sound/audacity-1.2.4b-r1
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:07:03 2006 >>>[1;32m media-gfx/imagemagick-6.2.5.5
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:08:12 2006 >>>[1;32m net-mail/fetchmail-6.3.1
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:11:48 2006 >>>[1;32m net-libs/libpcap-0.9.4
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:11:57 2006 >>>[1;32m
app-portage/emerge-delta-webrsync-3.4
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:22:41 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-block/gparted-0.0.9-r1
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:22:52 2006 >>>[1;32m app-misc/mime-types-5
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:24:14 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-apps/findutils-4.3.0
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:24:55 2006 >>>[1;32m app-editors/nano-1.3.10
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:25:29 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-process/procps-3.2.6
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:26:31 2006 >>>[1;32m x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-2.2.8
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:27:19 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.2.3.2
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:32:38 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:33:20 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:34:18 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:35:57 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:38:17 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:39:24 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-extra/xfcalendar-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:42:13 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:45:35 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:49:04 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/xfwm4-4.2.3.2
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:50:34 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:52:05 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:55:06 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:55:51 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:58:11 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/xfprint-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:58:54 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 05:59:57 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-extra/xfce4-toys-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 06:01:04 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 06:01:50 2006 >>>[1;32m
xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 06:02:33 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-extra/xfce4-systray-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 06:09:28 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/xffm-4.2.3
[0m Thu Jan 12 06:09:37 2006 >>>[1;32m xfce-base/xfce4-4.2.3.2
[0m Thu Jan 12 06:12:57 2006 >>>[1;32m dev-perl/DBI-1.50
[0m Thu Jan 12 06:13:36 2006 >>>[1;32m dev-perl/Convert-ASN1-0.19
[0m Thu Jan 12 06:15:30 2006 >>>[1;32m dev-perl/perl-ldap-0.33-r1
[0m Thu Jan 12 22:23:33 2006 >>>[1;32m mail-client/evolution-2.4.2.1
[0m Thu Jan 12 22:23:59 2006 >>>[1;32m media-libs/libdvdread-0.9.4-r1
[0m Thu Jan 12 22:26:12 2006 >>>[1;32m net-irc/irssi-0.8.10
[0m Thu Jan 12 22:27:12 2006 >>>[1;32m gnome-

Re: [gentoo-user] after update, eth0 won't work

2006-01-12 Thread Ghislain Bourgeois

It doesn't go up on boot or you can't make it go up with ifconfig?Ghislain Bourgeois

[gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

2006-01-12 Thread Dale Kirkley

Hi guys and Holly,  ;-)

I use Mozilla for browsing and email.  Last night for some reason it stopped 
sending email but it does give me a error.  This is it:

" An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 
 Relaying denied. Please 
verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try 
again."

That's it.  It don't send anything but it receives the new emails fine.  My 
ISP says they have not heard from anyone else on this.  I set up Kmail, < 
pukes> LOL, and it works fine.  It downloads and will let me send emails like 
usual.  That is how I am sending this.  At least that is the hope anyway.

One thing I have noticed, I can send email to my ISP, the info address or 
someone that works there.  I can not send to Yahoo, gmail or this list from 
Mozilla.  I can go to their website and login there and it works fine too, 
just like Kmail.

I'm not much on Kmail so someone please help me figure out what is wrong with 
Mozilla mail.

I use KDE 3.5 but run stable on everything else.  I have not upgraded anything 
that I know of that should even remotely affect this.

Any ideas?  This could make me shut down my rig.  I'm not big on Kmail at all.

OK.  BIG UPDATE.  I tried to send this from Kmail and got the same error. 
Kmail DOES NOT work either.  I am having to send this through my ISPs website,
which sucks.  I did a copy and paste for the rest of this email.

Thanks for the help.  Please help.  :-(

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

2006-01-12 Thread Ghislain Bourgeois

On 1/12/06, Dale Kirkley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I use Mozilla for browsing and email.  Last night for some reason it stoppedsending email but it does give me a error.  This is it:Did you update Mozilla recently? Because if kmail works, I don't know of anything else that could cause that trouble.
Ghislain Bourgeois

Re: [gentoo-user] New Macs

2006-01-12 Thread Rafael Fernández López

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Mark wrote:
> I got an email from Apple this morning announcing the new Intel-based
> Macs. I was wondering if anyone knew whether one of the Gentoo Intel
> flavors would run on those systems or whether that would be a whole
> different build
> --
> Mark
> [unwieldy legal disclaimer would go here - feel free to type your own]
> 

- From my point of view... they should have chosen amd instead of intel...
We all know that amd at this last time is making better processors than
intel. They will reply (I hope).

Bye,
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

2006-01-12 Thread John Myers

On Thursday 12 January 2006 13:54, Dale Kirkley wrote:
> " An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1
>  Relaying denied. Please
> verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try
> again."
Sounds like you need to check your SMTP Authentication settings. Go to
Edit -> Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings -> Outgoing Server (SMTP)
and verify that the settings are correct, especially the user name setting.
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Kjorling

On 2006-01-12 15:54 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> " An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:
> 5.7.1  Relaying
> denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your
> Mail preferences and try again."

This generally means that you are using the wrong mail server and has
*nothing* to do with which mail client you are using.

Contact your ISP's support department and verify that you are using
the correct SMTP server.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

On Thursday 12 January 2006 16:02, Ghislain Bourgeois wrote:
> On 1/12/06, Dale Kirkley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I use Mozilla for browsing and email.  Last night for some reason it
> > stopped
> > sending email but it does give me a error.  This is it:
>
> Did you update Mozilla recently? Because if kmail works, I don't know of
> anything else that could cause that trouble.
>
> Ghislain Bourgeois

Funny you mention that because Kmail is giving me fits too.  This is hopefully 
from Kmail.  HOPEFULLY.

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Re: [gentoo-user] after update, eth0 won't work

2006-01-12 Thread Alan E. Davis

Good question.  I'll have to get back to you on that: I'm at work; my
PC is at home.

Alan

On 1/13/06, Ghislain Bourgeois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It doesn't go up on boot or you can't make it go up with ifconfig?
>
> Ghislain Bourgeois
>

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[gentoo-user] USE flags: mmx sse sse2

2006-01-12 Thread Tom Smith

Are these flags mutually exclusive?

I know, for example, that if I have a Pentium II that the MMX flag
should apply while the sse and sse2 flags would not.

But what if I have a Pentium III or IV? Would I only use the most recent
"optimization" or do I need to add all three to take advantage of each one?

I checked the USE flag descriptions and there wasn't anything indicating
indicating whether the can or should be used together.

Thanks in advance for your help.

~ Tom
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O


Ghislain Bourgeois wrote:

On 1/12/06, *Dale Kirkley* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


I use Mozilla for browsing and email.  Last night for some reason
it stopped
sending email but it does give me a error.  This is it:



Did you update Mozilla recently? Because if kmail works, I don't know 
of anything else that could cause that trouble.


Ghislain Bourgeois


I'm trying to send this from Mozilla this time.  < Dale says prayer that 
it works>


Dale
:-)

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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.  Named Smoker
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.  
Named Swifty
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.  Named Pokey
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.  Named Putput

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O


John Myers wrote:


On Thursday 12 January 2006 13:54, Dale Kirkley wrote:
 


" An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1
 Relaying denied. Please
verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try
again."
   


Sounds like you need to check your SMTP Authentication settings. Go to
Edit -> Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings -> Outgoing Server (SMTP)
and verify that the settings are correct, especially the user name setting.
 


Well, I am in Mozilla and it just started working again.

This email is from Mozilla.  If you get this, it works, for now anyway.  
I may be back though.  Kmail stopped for a while then started up again.  
Now Mozilla works again.  I hope.


This is confusing me.

Dale
:-)

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To err is human, I'm most certainly human.

I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.  Named Smoker
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.  
Named Swifty
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.  Named Pokey
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.  Named Putput

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Re: [gentoo-user] after update, eth0 won't work

On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 07:32:49AM +1000, Penguin Lover Alan E. Davis squawked:
> Here's from genlop.  (Many of these were merged after the problem showed up):
> 
> # genlop --list --date two days ago
> [1;34m * app-shells/bash
> 
> [0m Thu Jan 12 01:36:12 2006 >>>[1;32m app-shells/bash-3.1_p5
> [0m Thu Jan 12 01:36:42 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.13-r1
> [0m Thu Jan 12 02:19:28 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5
> [0m Thu Jan 12 02:20:00 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-libs/timezone-data-2005r
> [0m Thu Jan 12 03:16:58 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r2
> [0m Thu Jan 12 03:18:52 2006 >>>[1;32m dev-lang/tcl-8.4.11-r1
> [0m Thu Jan 12 03:22:50 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r1
> [0m Thu Jan 12 03:24:25 2006 >>>[1;32m sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14
> [0m Thu Jan 12 03:24:54 2006 >>>[1;32m 
> sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre13-r1

Like another poster said, you probably need to run
etc-update or dispatch-conf or go look at the updated files in
/etc/init.d/

I had that same problem when I (foolishly) updated to bash-3.1_p2 and
left baselayout at 1.11.13... 

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 03:54:24PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale Kirkley squawked:
> " An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 
>  Relaying denied. Please 
> verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try 
> again."
> 
> That's it.  It don't send anything but it receives the new emails fine.  My 
> ISP says they have not heard from anyone else on this.  I set up Kmail, < 
> pukes> LOL, and it works fine.  It downloads and will let me send emails like 
> usual.  That is how I am sending this.  At least that is the hope anyway.
> 
> One thing I have noticed, I can send email to my ISP, the info address or 
> someone that works there.  I can not send to Yahoo, gmail or this list from 
> Mozilla.  I can go to their website and login there and it works fine too, 
> just like Kmail.
> 
> OK.  BIG UPDATE.  I tried to send this from Kmail and got the same error. 
> Kmail DOES NOT work either.  I am having to send this through my ISPs website,
> which sucks.  I did a copy and paste for the rest of this email.
> 

I doubt it is a problem with Mozilla. 

What ISP do you use? How are you sending mail? Do you just have a
standard-ish postfix/sendmail configuration, or do you relay your mail
through your ISP? 

It sounds to me like Yahoo/Gmail etc are blocking your mail because
you are not an authorized mail server for your ISP's domain. That is
actually fairly standard anti-spam tactic nowadays. (Heck, AOL and
half of Taiwan even blocks mail from my ISP's official mail server.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

Michael Kjorling wrote:

On 2006-01-12 15:54 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

" An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:
5.7.1 Relaying
denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your
Mail preferences and try again."

This generally means that you are using the wrong mail server and has
*nothing* to do with which mail client you are using.

Contact your ISP's support department and verify that you are using
the correct SMTP server.

Well, I sent a email that it started working. Maybe it is in the pipe
already. Funny thing is, I didn't change anything and it started
working. My ISP is local and they have a lot of users and they said
they had no reports of email trouble. Most use windoze so I think it
had to be something on my end but I can't say that for sure since it
started working and I didn't change anything.

If the list gets this one, I am in Mozilla and am a happy camper. I can
use Kmail but I won't be happy about it. I was really unhappy to send
through the website. That sucks.

Thanks for the help. Maybe the Linux gods were looking down on me.

Dale
:-)

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I have four rigs:

1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two
80GB hard drives. Named Smoker
2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
Named Swifty
3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB
drive. Named Pokey
4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB
SCSI drive. Named Putput

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[gentoo-user] problem with firefox + netscape-flash

2006-01-12 Thread Giulio

Hi,

I compiled firefox 1.0.7-r4 with this options: 

  +debug +gnome +ipv6 -java -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznoxft -mozsvg 
+truetype -xinerama +xprint 

then I emerged netscape-flash

but when I find a website with flash, firefox is blocked by the plugins 
and keep loading the page without stopping. It only happens with my
compiled version. I checked with the binary version and there's
no problem at all, so... it's my fault.

how can I solve this problem?

Thanks in advance for any help,
Giulio

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

2006-01-12 Thread Eric Bliss

On Thursday 12 January 2006 02:16 pm, Dale wrote:
> Funny you mention that because Kmail is giving me fits too.  This is 
hopefully 
> from Kmail.  HOPEFULLY.

User-Agent: KMail/1.9

Yup, it's Kmail.  What setup do you use for sending mail?  Some ISPs have 
configs that block port 25 from being used for third party servers.  Could be 
they put in a port blocker recently, and you're just one of the few people 
who are having problems with it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

2006-01-12 Thread John Jolet

On Thursday 12 January 2006 16:21, Dale wrote:
> John Myers wrote:
> >On Thursday 12 January 2006 13:54, Dale Kirkley wrote:
> >>" An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1
> >> Relaying denied. Please
> >>verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and
> >> try again."
> >
> >Sounds like you need to check your SMTP Authentication settings. Go to
> > Edit -> Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings -> Outgoing Server (SMTP)
> >and verify that the settings are correct, especially the user name
> > setting.
>
> Well, I am in Mozilla and it just started working again.
>
> This email is from Mozilla.  If you get this, it works, for now anyway.
> I may be back though.  Kmail stopped for a while then started up again.
> Now Mozilla works again.  I hope.
>
> This is confusing me.
I saw something similar with a client.  she was using outlook express and on 
an sbc dsl connection.  but was sending email for her roadrunner account.  
she was on sbc's net, and using sbc's mail server, but sometimes, not always, 
but most of the time, it would tell her that relaying was denied because of 
an invalid FROM address.  looked like there were several actual mail servers 
behind a round-robin dns name and some had settings to filter on the from and 
only allow sbcglobal.net in the from.  what a pain in the rear.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)
>
> --
> To err is human, I'm most certainly human.
>
> I have four rigs:
>
> 1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now
> two 80GB hard drives.  Named Smoker 2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD
> 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.  Named Swifty 3:  Home built;
> Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive.  Named
> Pokey 4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram
> and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.  Named Putput
>
> All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are
> set up as servers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

2006-01-12 Thread Abhay Kedia

On Friday 13 January 2006 03:24, Dale Kirkley wrote:
>
> " An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1
>  Relaying denied. Please
> verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try
> again."
>
Do you use SMTP Authentication? If not, enable it. Looks like your ISP mail 
server has started requiring users to login/authenticate before they can use 
its SMTP service.

Read a bit more in this thread:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=1316842

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Macs

2006-01-12 Thread Steven Ringwald

On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 23:22 +0100, Rafael Fernández López wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> > I got an email from Apple this morning announcing the new Intel-based
> > Macs. I was wondering if anyone knew whether one of the Gentoo Intel
> > flavors would run on those systems or whether that would be a whole
> > different build
> > --
> > Mark
> > [unwieldy legal disclaimer would go here - feel free to type your own]
> > 
> 
> - From my point of view... they should have chosen amd instead of intel...
> We all know that amd at this last time is making better processors than
> intel. They will reply (I hope).

Yes, but think of what Intel's StrongARM can do for the price of the
iPod (which is where Apple gets a good chunk of its revenue from)... 
Intel has really good volume pricing on the embedded stuff.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags: mmx sse sse2

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 03:09:40PM -0700, Penguin Lover Tom Smith squawked:
> Are these flags mutually exclusive?
> 
> I know, for example, that if I have a Pentium II that the MMX flag
> should apply while the sse and sse2 flags would not.
> 
> But what if I have a Pentium III or IV? Would I only use the most recent
> "optimization" or do I need to add all three to take advantage of each one?
> 
> I checked the USE flag descriptions and there wasn't anything indicating
> indicating whether the can or should be used together.
> 
Not quite sure how it works officially. But I run a Pentium IV, and I
have mmx mmxext sse sse2 enabled, so they are at least NOT mutually
exclusive. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness with KDE 3.4

2006-01-12 Thread Rafael Fernández López

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Holly Bostick wrote:
> Shawn Singh schreef:
> 
>>Thanks Holly. The user can login from the console. The user's icon doesn't
>>show in the list of users. Come to think of it, neither does my user show in
>>the list. I can key in my username and password to authenticate, so I
>>suspect (that since the other user can login from the console) she'll be
>>able to do likewise
>>
>>I guess the correct question to have asked is why won't my user's show up in
>>the list of users?
>>
> 
> Have you looked in
> 
> 
>>On 1/12/06, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>the KDE Control Center=> System Administration=> Login
>>>Manager=> Administrator Mode=> Users tab 
> 
> 
> ?

Run `kuser` and look what UID has the user that is not getting visible
into logging window. Typically when you create another user it will get
a lower UID. (You'll later understand).

Go to `kcontrol`, `System admin` (or something similar, I've got it in
Spanish), and `Access admin`.

Go to tab `Users`. See in `System UIDs` if your user UID is UNDER or
GREATER that those numbers, it won't be shown on login window.

Just change those numbers and you're set.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

OK.  I'm trying to send this through Kmail.  Mozilla stopped working again.

I'm not sure how it is set up.  I just set it up when I did my install a long 
time ago and gave it my user name and password.  It worked all this time and 
now it stops and it is starting to TICK ME OFF.

If you get this, Kmail works, Mozilla doesn't.  I just tried Mozilla, same 
stupid error as before.

I do connect to my ISP with a dial-up.  I'm not trying to "relay" though some 
other website or anything.  I connect to exceedtech.net and that is what I 
use to send my email through.

I'm clueless.  Maybe a fresh install will help.  LOL

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

On Thursday 12 January 2006 17:36, Dale wrote:
> OK.  I'm trying to send this through Kmail.  Mozilla stopped working again.
>
> I'm not sure how it is set up.  I just set it up when I did my install a
> long time ago and gave it my user name and password.  It worked all this
> time and now it stops and it is starting to TICK ME OFF.
>
> If you get this, Kmail works, Mozilla doesn't.  I just tried Mozilla, same
> stupid error as before.
>
> I do connect to my ISP with a dial-up.  I'm not trying to "relay" though
> some other website or anything.  I connect to exceedtech.net and that is
> what I use to send my email through.
>
> I'm clueless.  Maybe a fresh install will help.  LOL
>
> Dale
>
> :-)

OK.  I tried something a little different.  I created a new user, dale2.  I 
logged in with that user then set up all the stuff to connect to the net.  
Then I tried to send email with Mozilla, same error.  It looks like it is not 
a user setting but maybe something with Mozilla itself, since Kmail works OK 
now.

I'm going to recompile Mozilla just in case it is a bad file or something.  
I'll post back and let you know what happens.

This is some weird crap.

Thanks for the help.  Will keep you posted.  Feel free to throw me any ideas 
though.  This is my last hope except to delete everything and start over, 
Mozilla wise.

Dale
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[gentoo-user] Re: Strangeness with KDE 3.4

Rafael,

Thank you for the suggestion. The UID falls w/i the range for both
users. Come to think of it, this started happening when I removed
kde-base and installed kde-meta.

I wonder if something got corrupted.

Shawn

On 1/12/06, Rafael Fernández López <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Holly Bostick wrote:
> > Shawn Singh schreef:
> >
> >>Thanks Holly. The user can login from the console. The user's icon doesn't
> >>show in the list of users. Come to think of it, neither does my user show
> in
> >>the list. I can key in my username and password to authenticate, so I
> >>suspect (that since the other user can login from the console) she'll be
> >>able to do likewise
> >>
> >>I guess the correct question to have asked is why won't my user's show up
> in
> >>the list of users?
> >>
> >
> > Have you looked in
> >
> >
> >>On 1/12/06, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>the KDE Control Center=> System Administration=> Login
> >>>Manager=> Administrator Mode=> Users tab
> >
> >
> > ?
>
>   Run `kuser` and look what UID has the user that is not getting visible
> into logging window. Typically when you create another user it will get
> a lower UID. (You'll later understand).
>   
>   Go to `kcontrol`, `System admin` (or something similar, I've got it in
> Spanish), and `Access admin`.
>
>   Go to tab `Users`. See in `System UIDs` if your user UID is UNDER or
> GREATER that those numbers, it won't be shown on login window.
>
>   Just change those numbers and you're set.
>
> Bye,
> Rafael Fernández López.
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags: mmx sse sse2

2006-01-12 Thread Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales

Certain program have support for either of these extentions. The
program will most likely use the best one for the job.

They can be mutually exclusive, however, if you use the CFLAG
-mfpmath=sse,387. As far as I know it, it will try to use SSE
instructions for math where possible, in detriment of using the 387
math co-processor. But this only get any advantage when using AMD64
processors.

I never tested it, I just copied what the Gentoo Wiki says about it. ;P

2006/1/12, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 03:09:40PM -0700, Penguin Lover Tom Smith squawked:
> > Are these flags mutually exclusive?
> >
> > I know, for example, that if I have a Pentium II that the MMX flag
> > should apply while the sse and sse2 flags would not.
> >
> > But what if I have a Pentium III or IV? Would I only use the most recent
> > "optimization" or do I need to add all three to take advantage of each one?
> >
> > I checked the USE flag descriptions and there wasn't anything indicating
> > indicating whether the can or should be used together.
> >
> Not quite sure how it works officially. But I run a Pentium IV, and I
> have mmx mmxext sse sse2 enabled, so they are at least NOT mutually
> exclusive.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags: mmx sse sse2

2006-01-12 Thread Tom Smith

Well, if they're /not/ mutually exclusive, another question that comes
up is...

If a program is compiled with sse or sse2 support on a Pentium II, will
the program run slower than it otherwise would? (Some of the programs I
have are compiled and then distributed to servers with different
CPUs--P-IIs and P-IVs, mainly.)

Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote:

>Certain program have support for either of these extentions. The
>program will most likely use the best one for the job.
>
>They can be mutually exclusive, however, if you use the CFLAG
>-mfpmath=sse,387. As far as I know it, it will try to use SSE
>instructions for math where possible, in detriment of using the 387
>math co-processor. But this only get any advantage when using AMD64
>processors.
>
>I never tested it, I just copied what the Gentoo Wiki says about it. ;P
>
>2006/1/12, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  
>
>>On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 03:09:40PM -0700, Penguin Lover Tom Smith squawked:
>>
>>
>>>Are these flags mutually exclusive?
>>>
>>>I know, for example, that if I have a Pentium II that the MMX flag
>>>should apply while the sse and sse2 flags would not.
>>>
>>>But what if I have a Pentium III or IV? Would I only use the most recent
>>>"optimization" or do I need to add all three to take advantage of each one?
>>>
>>>I checked the USE flag descriptions and there wasn't anything indicating
>>>indicating whether the can or should be used together.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Not quite sure how it works officially. But I run a Pentium IV, and I
>>have mmx mmxext sse sse2 enabled, so they are at least NOT mutually
>>exclusive.
>>
>>W
>>--
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags: mmx sse sse2

2006-01-12 Thread John Myers

On Thursday 12 January 2006 18:45, Tom Smith wrote:
> Well, if they're /not/ mutually exclusive, another question that comes
> up is...
>
> If a program is compiled with sse or sse2 support on a Pentium II, will
> the program run slower than it otherwise would? (Some of the programs I
> have are compiled and then distributed to servers with different
> CPUs--P-IIs and P-IVs, mainly.)
>

If a program uses an instruction that the processor doesn't support, the 
program will be sent SIGILL, the default action of which is to terminate 
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O

On Thursday 12 January 2006 18:01, Dale wrote:
> 
>
> I'm going to recompile Mozilla just in case it is a bad file or something.
> I'll post back and let you know what happens.
>
>
> Dale
>
> :-)

OK.  I re-emerged Mozilla and now it won't even come up at all.  I went into a 
Konsole as dale, not root, and typed in mozilla and nothing happens.  No 
error or anything it just comes back to a prompt.  I logged out and did a 
ctrl alt bcksp and logged back in, nothing.  

I'm not sure what is going on here but something is really borked.  Now I have 
no browser either except for Konqueror.

Anybody have any clues?  I'm about to start a fresh install, no kidding 
either.  Is there some kind of service that could affect this?  How do I find 
out what is keeping Mozilla from starting since I have no error message?

This sucks.

Dale
:-(

Oh, I'm using Kmail, again.  At least it works.
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[gentoo-user] kde new user login icons missing

2006-01-12 Thread Joseph

I've added two new users in the system with group ID 500 and 501
However, I don't see them at login prompt.

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[gentoo-user] Source Code?

2006-01-12 Thread Raj Swaminathan


Hi,

Can anybody tell me where i can obtain open source code for gentoo. Im
particularly looking for code for programs in /bin and /sbin. 
I am on a project to find out how different distros implement a few of
these programs. So far i have only been lucky with OpenSolaris and
FreeBSD. 

Thanks,
raj

Re: [gentoo-user] ppp-2.4.3-r10.ebuild

2006-01-12 Thread maxim wexler

I've done this lots. I didn't have near the problems
you seem to be having. If you can chroot to /bin/bash
you shouldn't have a problem. But you need pppconfig
in addition to ppp. According to my notes I had to
USE="-unicode" before I could emerge pppconfig. Don't
recall where that came from; you might not have to.
Run pppconfig and fill in the lines. That's all I had
to do. Unless this "PPPoA" thing you mention queers
the deal.

Then edit sudoers for user access -- you're all set. 

--- Charles Trois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's not easy to install things in Gentoo without
> Internet access, 
> especially when it's about installing the Internet
> connexion itself.
> 
> My ISP uses PPPoA, and I have a Speedtouch USB
> modem, the installation 
> of which requires ppp-2.4.3. This is not provided by
> the distfiles, so I 
> used a tarball downloaded under MacOS, which I
> installed in the ordinary 
> way (which is not the Gentoo way). The Speedtouch
> pages say that one should
> 
> (1) write PEER="speedtch" in /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0
> (speedtch is the 
> name  of the modem config file)
> 
> (2) run   "rc-update add net.ppp0 default"in order 
> that ppp0 start at 
> boot.
> 
> Thus installed, the thing works, but only up to a
> point, in that
> 
> (3) I have to run  "pppd call speedtch"  to start
> ppp, and
> 
> (4) I must change the default route from eth0 to
> ppp0 to make the 
> name  resolution work.
> 
> Supposing that these difficulties might result from
> a bad installation 
> of ppp-2.4.3, and Internet now being available, I
> looked for a proper 
> emerge, and found ppp-2.4.3-r10.ebuild, which I
> installed, unmasking it 
> for ~ppc (this is an iMac). That was ok, but the
> note at the end says 
> that /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 is no longer used and that
> everything goes 
> through pppd. Then (2) above does no longer make
> sense, and I am not 
> sure about (1).
> 
> I tried to run pppd just to see, but there was no
> result (although no 
> error). From the script, it seems that it might give
> some messages, but 
> there was nothing.
> 
> How does it work? What should I do instead of (1)
> and (2), and shall I 
> be rid of (3) and (4)?
> 
> I'll be grateful for all hints.
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A New Linux Way (This is a Joke, laff will ya?)

On 12 January 2006 19:21, Devon Miller wrote:
> *Dear Gentoo-User,*

[ snip ]

> *Yours sincerely, *
> * Simon kabila.*

Hilarious. The "From: " field, though, should contain an address in Congo, 
Nigeria, Kenya or, at least, France. Hotmail or yahoo would be acceptable as 
well. ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strangeness with KDE 3.4

On 12 January 2006 19:28, Shawn Singh wrote:
> Thanks Holly. The user can login from the console. The user's icon doesn't
> show in the list of users. Come to think of it, neither does my user show
> in the list. I can key in my username and password to authenticate, so I
> suspect (that since the other user can login from the console) she'll be
> able to do likewise
>
> I guess the correct question to have asked is why won't my user's show up
> in the list of users?

Check /usr/kde/3.4/share/config/kdm/kdmrc. Search for "HiddenUsers", 
"MinShowUID" and "MaxShowUID". 

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PPTP + MPPE + pptpconfig + Kernel 2.6.15 + ndiswrapper -> unstable connectivity

2006-01-12 Thread Justin Hart

Hrmm.  I followed that wiki when I set it up originally (back when you
had to find kernel patches).  It never used to drop my connections,
but seems to do so now.  Definately have the use variables set up
properly.

I'm ecstatic with the performance of the BC 3150, though, it was a bit
of a pain at first under the new kernel (it freezes (ndiswrapper that
is, during modprobe) if you have kernel module unloading enabled...
wierd).

I've thought about updating the wiki a bit.  IIRC, it still reflects
needing to track down kernel patches.

Thanks for the help though.

Justin

On 1/10/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Justin Hart  gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I recently upgraded my kernel to 2.6.15, enabling MPPE so I could
> > connect to my campus network's VPN.
>
> > I'm using pptpconfig to set up the connection.  It's plain-vanilla,
> > name of the server and such with the require_mppe box checked.
>
> > I'm connecting via 802.11g, using ndiswrapper to by Broadcom 3150
> > wireless adapter.
>
> > If I have this configuration, as it is now, on my campus network, the
> > connection drops after a few minutes.  It also drops my wi-fi
> > connection.  I kill dhcpcd and restart it to re-acquire an IP, and
> > life is good again.  The wi-fi connection is stable unless I do this.
>
>
> from:
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Set_up_a_vpn_client_with_mppe_encryption
>
> It contains this line:
> You will have to install or recompile ppp with the mppe-mppc USE flag.
>
>
> The aforementioned wiki also has other suggestions that might be relevant
> to your setup,, particularly in the attached scripts. If not, consider
> posting a new wiki, as I have been
> 'tagged' to setup a gentoo laptop for a friend with secure wireless access
> on a university campus..
>
> Are you happy with the performance of your BC 3150 card?
> Any other  pc-card hardware recommnedations as it'd be nice to get one card
> that works well with Gentoo and winDoz on a dual-boot laptop?
>
> Lots of interlopers and curious talent on those university grounds
>
> hth,
> James
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Re: [gentoo-user] Source Code?

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:40:30PM -0600, Penguin Lover Raj Swaminathan 
squawked:
> Hi,
> 
> Can anybody tell me where i can obtain open source code for gentoo. Im
> particularly looking for code for programs in /bin and /sbin.
> I am on a project to find out how different distros implement a few of these
> programs. So far i have only been lucky with OpenSolaris and FreeBSD.
> 
> Thanks,
> raj

Generally the source are stored in /usr/portage/distfiles, packaged in
compressed tar archives. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A New Linux Way

2006-01-12 Thread Justin Hart

While I appreciate a good pitch, I actually think that what awakened
the list so mightily is that someone brazenly posted to a Linux user
list with a business pitch with no business plan attached.

I think that most people who've had at least a brush with professional
software engineering read such a statement as if it were steel wool
scraping their eyeballs.  If they've encountered such a business
situation, they know, it's not so much that it's a scam, it's that
they would suffer a lot less if it was just a scam.

Justin

On 1/11/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Petr Kocmid  project-bhairava.org> writes:
>
>
> > On Tuesday 10 January 2006 04:40, Mark Stewart wrote:
> > > Hello fellow Linux Users!
> > > We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way.
> > > Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose:
>
> > You missed the target audience. Here at gentoo there are mostly hardcore 
> > linux
> > geeks, and we already have "universal way". You do not make a fortune here
> > with a scam like this.
>
> (Splash--WAKE UP CALL)
>
> This thread has generated much noise, because it invokes the very antithesis
> of many things we hold dear: Irrelevance of Microsoft one day, ubiquitous
> secure and distributed computing, fantastic multimedia influenced and
> controlled by the little people of world etc etc
>
> It has generated so much concern (deeply disturbing responses) because we all
> need to earn a living and it'd be nice if we could do it, being perveyours
> of linux (Gentoo specifically) yet we lack initiative.
>
> I have often talk about preparing Gentoo for the masses, with little 
> collective
> interest. I have even offered to spent my limited financial resources to get
> talented people to develop specific software and make it open source so that
> it can be used freely, available in source code and also open to
> entrepreneurial endeavors, much like the BSDish licenses. I personally think
> all of the hype over licenses are a waste of bandwidth. Who gives a shit,
> statistically. If something is great everybody is going to use it, and
> it's associated technical perveyours should make money signing autographs.
>
> 'Savior'  is something Linux needs. The simple solution is for perveyours of
> (Gentoo) linux to stop being 'bone-heads' and start being Entrepreneurs.
> You make money, become affluent, you can write all the code and give it
> to whatever cause you want. What the youth of this list do not realize is
> their "Free time" combined with strong "programming skills" is capital.
> use it wisely, and more capital will flow your way.
>
> Specifically, I work as an engineer, with machines, industrial processes,
> communications, and too dam many lawyers and politicians. Machines on this
> earth are mostly controlled by SCADA systems: Supervisor Controls And Data
> Aquistion (sounds sexy huh?) Currenlty MicroSuck dominates the space, but,
> it's lack of robust security, has created a huge vacuum, highlighted by
> activities of 9/11. Futhermore in the near future, there will be at least
> 100 machines (micro P with connnectivity) per humanoid and the gap will
> only increase. AKA, the net of the future belongs to machines. Just look
> at the number of peripherals (machines) we have today and the pending
> explosion of every electro-mechanical device in your home, auto, work
> and leisure activities, having 'connectivity' in the not too distant
> future. Yet Linux lacks a robust open source SCADA plan. Many attemps
> have been made, but, most have been diverted to the traditional business
> model (come work for me and I'll give you a paycheck). Now is the time
> to develop software so that all electrical devices can be seemlessly
> managed and controlled. Whe have power over ethernet (802.af) and
> ethernet over powerlines, not to mention Rf chipsets that are shockingly
> low in price. The current vendor track is build a new device,
> write new software, and add it to the thousands of applications that
> exist. The future paradyne could be: Develop a robust Linux SCADA software
> package, make money migrating industry and consumers to it, and write
> device drivers for any product someone builds. That way the cost of
> software development is born of the open source community, and local
> entrepreneurs can spin hardware with local manufacturers to build
> successful 'regional products'. Gentoos get new toys, many of which
> are built by people they know
>
> I have offered money to any young, talented  person wanting to make
> a name for themselves by championing the cause to develop an open source
> SCADA system for (Gentoo) linux.  No takers. none. Why? This could become
> an excellent opportunity to teach software development, and migrate
> the industrial world to Gentoo.
>
> Leads me to beleive that everyone has too much cash or are scared to 'step 
> up'.
> My programming skills have atrofied (like my spelling skills) over time.
> Furthermore

Re: [gentoo-user] Source Code?

2006-01-12 Thread Winston Messer

Raj Swaminathan wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can anybody tell me where i can obtain open source code for gentoo. Im
> particularly looking for code for programs in /bin and /sbin.
> I am on a project to find out how different distros implement a few of
> these programs. So far i have only been lucky with OpenSolaris and FreeBSD.
> 
> Thanks,
> raj

I recommend you check anything I say against other sources; I'm not a
Gentoo expert.

Gentoo is a source distribution.  Nearly all packages installed are
compiled from source.  Gentoo fetches the source code from URLs supplied
in the ebuilds located in /usr/portage and downloads it to
/usr/portage/distfiles when you emerge a package.

You'll probably want to start in /usr/portage/distfiles.  Any source
that you've downloaded and compiled through portage resides there until
it's removed.

However, it's possible (or maybe likely, I'm no expert) that not all of
the source code for your system is in there.  If you've used GRP
packages, there would certainly be source missing from there, and if you
installed with a stage 3 and then did not recompile everything, there
would likely be at least some packages installed for which you don't
have source.  If you've installed any binary only programs, the
binaries's package would be there but not the source for those packages.

If you're looking for the remote source that is downloaded to be
compiled on Gentoo, the URLs are given in the ebuilds for each package.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A New Linux Way

2006-01-12 Thread Justin Hart

Also of note, it looks as though they took down the site.  He probably
read a handful of threads like this :-(  I guess he'll learn his
lesson and come back all the stronger for it.

Justin

On 1/13/06, Justin Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While I appreciate a good pitch, I actually think that what awakened
> the list so mightily is that someone brazenly posted to a Linux user
> list with a business pitch with no business plan attached.
>
> I think that most people who've had at least a brush with professional
> software engineering read such a statement as if it were steel wool
> scraping their eyeballs.  If they've encountered such a business
> situation, they know, it's not so much that it's a scam, it's that
> they would suffer a lot less if it was just a scam.
>
> Justin
>
> On 1/11/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Petr Kocmid  project-bhairava.org> writes:
> >
> >
> > > On Tuesday 10 January 2006 04:40, Mark Stewart wrote:
> > > > Hello fellow Linux Users!
> > > > We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way.
> > > > Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose:
> >
> > > You missed the target audience. Here at gentoo there are mostly hardcore 
> > > linux
> > > geeks, and we already have "universal way". You do not make a fortune here
> > > with a scam like this.
> >
> > (Splash--WAKE UP CALL)
> >
> > This thread has generated much noise, because it invokes the very antithesis
> > of many things we hold dear: Irrelevance of Microsoft one day, ubiquitous
> > secure and distributed computing, fantastic multimedia influenced and
> > controlled by the little people of world etc etc
> >
> > It has generated so much concern (deeply disturbing responses) because we 
> > all
> > need to earn a living and it'd be nice if we could do it, being perveyours
> > of linux (Gentoo specifically) yet we lack initiative.
> >
> > I have often talk about preparing Gentoo for the masses, with little 
> > collective
> > interest. I have even offered to spent my limited financial resources to get
> > talented people to develop specific software and make it open source so that
> > it can be used freely, available in source code and also open to
> > entrepreneurial endeavors, much like the BSDish licenses. I personally think
> > all of the hype over licenses are a waste of bandwidth. Who gives a shit,
> > statistically. If something is great everybody is going to use it, and
> > it's associated technical perveyours should make money signing autographs.
> >
> > 'Savior'  is something Linux needs. The simple solution is for perveyours of
> > (Gentoo) linux to stop being 'bone-heads' and start being Entrepreneurs.
> > You make money, become affluent, you can write all the code and give it
> > to whatever cause you want. What the youth of this list do not realize is
> > their "Free time" combined with strong "programming skills" is capital.
> > use it wisely, and more capital will flow your way.
> >
> > Specifically, I work as an engineer, with machines, industrial processes,
> > communications, and too dam many lawyers and politicians. Machines on this
> > earth are mostly controlled by SCADA systems: Supervisor Controls And Data
> > Aquistion (sounds sexy huh?) Currenlty MicroSuck dominates the space, but,
> > it's lack of robust security, has created a huge vacuum, highlighted by
> > activities of 9/11. Futhermore in the near future, there will be at least
> > 100 machines (micro P with connnectivity) per humanoid and the gap will
> > only increase. AKA, the net of the future belongs to machines. Just look
> > at the number of peripherals (machines) we have today and the pending
> > explosion of every electro-mechanical device in your home, auto, work
> > and leisure activities, having 'connectivity' in the not too distant
> > future. Yet Linux lacks a robust open source SCADA plan. Many attemps
> > have been made, but, most have been diverted to the traditional business
> > model (come work for me and I'll give you a paycheck). Now is the time
> > to develop software so that all electrical devices can be seemlessly
> > managed and controlled. Whe have power over ethernet (802.af) and
> > ethernet over powerlines, not to mention Rf chipsets that are shockingly
> > low in price. The current vendor track is build a new device,
> > write new software, and add it to the thousands of applications that
> > exist. The future paradyne could be: Develop a robust Linux SCADA software
> > package, make money migrating industry and consumers to it, and write
> > device drivers for any product someone builds. That way the cost of
> > software development is born of the open source community, and local
> > entrepreneurs can spin hardware with local manufacturers to build
> > successful 'regional products'. Gentoos get new toys, many of which
> > are built by people they know
> >
> > I have offered money to any young, talented  person wanting to make
> > a name for themsel

Re: [gentoo-user] Source Code?

2006-01-12 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 23:40 -0600, Raj Swaminathan wrote:

> Can anybody tell me where i can obtain open source code for gentoo.

If you're _running_ Gentoo it's easy, as you have to download most of
the source code to install it.  However, given that you're doing this to
lots of distro's, I assume you're not installing each distro...

>  Im particularly looking for code for programs in /bin and /sbin. 

Ah, quite a lot of programs install things into /bin.  Do you mean just
the "base" set of programs?  then there's not much in there at all.
They're probably all in 'coreutils' or 'baselayout' (no doubt others
will give you more package names)

> I am on a project to find out how different distros implement a few of
> these programs. So far i have only been lucky with OpenSolaris and
> FreeBSD. 

You should have luck with gentoo, as every gentoo mirror should carry
the source code.  Go to http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml to
find mirrors, and then navigate to your.mirror/gentoo/distfiles where
you will find the source code (pretty much anything in there that
doesn't have a -bin in the name is source code for something :)

for example, coreutils-5.3.0.tar.bz2 or baselayout-1.12.0_pre10.tar.bz2

However: gentoo does it slightly differently:  Instead of downloading
the patched source code, as you would in, say, fedora, gentoo downloads
the original untouched source from the program's site, and applies
"gentoo" patches.

To find out the patches, without running gentoo becomes a little
trickier.  I'd personally download a "portage snapshot":
your.mirror/gentoo/snapshots/portage-20060112.tar.bz2 (~20Mb), then look
at the directories in there:

/usr/portage/sys-apps/baselayout
/usr/portage/sys-apps/coreutils

In each directory you will see a list of *.ebuild files, which are the
"rules" for building this package.

If you get this far and want me to keep going about ebuilds, just post
back to the list.

HTH,
-- 
Iain Buchanan 

The best way to make a fire with two sticks is to make sure one of them
is a match.
-- Will Rogers

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PPTP + MPPE + pptpconfig + Kernel 2.6.15 + ndiswrapper -> unstable connectivity

2006-01-12 Thread Iain Buchanan

Hi,

On 1/10/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Are you happy with the performance of your BC 3150 card?
> Any other  pc-card hardware recommnedations as it'd be nice to get one card
> that works well with Gentoo and winDoz on a dual-boot laptop?

sorry to hijack the thread, but I use a Broadcom BCM4306 802.11b/g
mini-pci card in my laptop, and it works great between windows and linux
with ndiswrapper.  Don't use ndiswrapper 1.7 yet though :)

HTH,
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The reason why worry kills more people than work is that more people
worry than work.

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[gentoo-user] OT - Need help diagnosing scanning problem with new DSL service

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Sullivan

This morning I got my router to interface successfully with my new SBC
DSL modem.   I got my new network information from SBC.  Here it is.

My gateway is 64.149.52.102
Static IP addresses assigned for my use are:  64.149.52.97-101

First of all, I've never dealt with managing more than one static IP
address before.  As for the gateway, that's always been my router
(currently located inside the network at 192.168.1.1)  Inside the
network, my three hosts are numbered 192.168.1.2-4.  I've updated my
external network DNS settings (hosted through Yahoo) and everything
seems to be going smoothly.  Except...

Here's my problem.  One of my users has been having trouble connecting
to my server via FTP for some time.  I haven't really worried about it
that much because he's the only one having trouble (I know that's
horrible of me), and because he has expressed no interest whatsoever in
using any of the alternate methods I've suggested to him of getting
files into his webspace.  I thought it might have had something about
his ISP not getting along with my ISP, or something stupid like that.
Now I have a new ISP.  I thought I'd try things again.  My router is set
to reroute all requests to port 22 (FTP) to internal address 192.168.1.2
(which is my server box).  However, when I try to run nmap on
64.149.52.102 (I know it's the address of my router, but it's what I
always did when I had only one external static IP address), the only
information I can get is that all ports are filtered.  I don't even know
what that means.  I figure that's because it's scanning my router
instead of the server under it where it's supposed to be forwarding
requests to several different ports on.  What I'm asking is, how can I
get the necessary information from my server box (inside the network)
instead of the router which serves as a gateway?  If it matters, my
router is a Linksys Wireless-B Broadband router.  This has really got me
confused.  I can't ping 64.149.52.102, I can't telnet to any of the
ports that are set to be open, and no matter what I try I can't get any
kind of response from 64.149.52.102 - actually not any output at all.
In all cases of pinging and telneting I've had to Cntrl+C to get out of
it because it doesn't tell me anything.  And yet mail is going through
and I can access web pages on my server.   My vsftpd.log file on the
server even showed an anonymous login to the FTP server earlier this
afternoon (after I hooked the router to the DSL modem.)  This has got me
very very confused

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Re: [gentoo-user] unable to select gnucash TXF categories

2006-01-12 Thread Lincoln Baxter

On 1/8/06, Martins Steinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 08 January 2006 03:35, Lincoln Baxter wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have app-office/gnucash 1.8.11 installed.
> >
> > When I mark an account as Tax Related (Edit->Tax Options), I am
> > supposed to be able to select a TXF category.  But no categories are
> > displayed.
> >
> > This prevents me from exporting the Tax report to a TXF file.
> >
> > Has anyone figured out how to get this working?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lincoln
>
>
> Hi,
> i run gnucash for small non-profit organization so i dont do anything with
> taxes, however, you can edit account under Edit -> Tax Options.
>
That is what i did, and it showed no tree of Tax Category codes to
select from, and no way to enter them... I guess I'll have to
subscribe to one of the gnucash lists.

Thanks, for trying.
Thanks

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