Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 01:50:27 -0500 (EST), Daniel Barkalow wrote:
> I think it would be useful to have an ebuild thing for "upgrading to
> this package from version {expression} requires the following steps",
> such that the message will be displayed only if you're doing that, and
> such that the upgrade will be masked if you're being conservative in
> upgrading.
It already does, with has_version. Look at the pkg_setup() part of the
postfix ebuild for an example of this in use.
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
Hi all, I seem to recall that loading multiple USB controller drivers can cause problems on some systems. You might try unloading all of these with rmmod, then loading just one, and see if your drive will work. I believe for most systems the ehci_hcd driver would be the preferred one. Posting your dmesg output might also help. It's more that one year that i have gentoo installed on my laptop and other desktop computers. Everything was working very well with these three controller 'til now In my system uhci is required by the USB mouse for it to work. I've tried to unload ohci (so keeping ehci (USB 2.0) and uhci (USB 1.1)) but the system keeps freezing. As the attachment you can find my dmesg. Cheers, m out_dmesg Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy dialup for unprivileged user
On Sunday 31 December 2006 22:20, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > Kent Fredric wrote: > > Passwordless SUDO on an app, or add some sgid/suid bits and do some > > group twiddling on the apps that do all your magic as root. That > > should at least be a good starting point :) > > Thanks - but making extra programs setuid root is one of the things I > really want to avoid, as it creates possibly security backdoors and > complicates upgrades - e.g. new version of prog gets installed w/o the > custom setuid bit and its a call to me 'cause 'the internet is broken' :-). Isn't it simply a matter of adding her username to the dialout group in /etc/group? -- Regards, Mick pgpvRSTncXuSk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Monday 01 January 2007 04:34, Mike Myers wrote: > The update system is the -only- nice thing about it over Gentoo. > Debian is nowhere near Gentoo when it comes to everything else > (especially docs). I don't think suggesting a single feature that > another distro has and putting into Gentoo is trying to make it a > clone. I'm just asking for a relief from having to constantly worry > if updating something out of the 300 packages that need updated is > going to break something, and not having to make sure etc-update > isn't going to destroy my custom configs afterwards. If it wasn't > for that, Gentoo would be perfect. I'm sure there's got to be others > that would agree. At this point it might be helpful to revisit what gentoo really *is* in engineering terms Gentoo is not an off-the-shelf, commodity, we-do-everything-for-you and you don't have to think (much) distro, it's in a completely different class. The devs have given up the ability to configure things a certain way and handed that control over to you. You get increased customizability but have to pay the price of increased knowledge and responsibility, including that you get to keep both pieces when you break it. Red Hat and Ubuntu can do all these tests for you, the gentoo devs can't (except in some very broad cases like package-1.0 is config-file incompatible with package-2.x), so we gentoo-users have to do these tests ourselves. Remember the old joke: "We can make it cheaply, quickly, correctly. Pick any two." You have a case like this, maybe it's time to just get over it :-) alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 08:50, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > I also think that emerge should keep track of the config files > installed by packages, so that etc-update knows if you've got local > modifications, and give you a big warning when you might lose a > change you made. Huh? Portage already does this. Standard config dirs are CONFIG_PROTECTed which is where etc-update comes in. It will merge trivial changes (whitespace, etc) and let *you* chose what to do for everything else. You get to keep the original file, use the update, or use a customized merge of the two. There is no need to give you a big warning if you might lose a change - the very act of running etc-update at all IS that warning. It's understood that if the new file shows up, then you DO have local modifications alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:36:02 +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > Yeah, it would be good to know an update is not going to give a broken > system - but to implement some sort of (extra) tagged release testing > would be a significant amount of effort for the community. Only if you rely on the current developer community to do this. There's nothing to stop a user or group of users from taking a snapshot of the portage tree and applying only security updates (after testing of course) then using that as their own rsync source for a "static" Gentoo-based distro. If the target hardware is all compatible, you could also build packages so that all updates on production machines would be done with the --usepkg option, saving time and CPU cycles. -- Neil Bothwick Sure, we just route the main sensor through Data's cat. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just do this rmmod all module concerning usb : ehci uhci ohci ehci = usb 2 extension uhci/ohci = usb support (1.0) depends on material (via or intel) so ... plug your material modprobe uhci ... nothing done, rmmod uhci, modprobe ohci .. try the material if all work, add usb2 support modprobe ehci so ... still hang up ? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (MingW32) - WinPT 1.0.1 iD8DBQFFmjf6Eg3iyspSWPARAgqOAJ4uhL25MSrSBzFbKGOaj3IWvnQbpwCeK4cL kHM1gOzUW9hRJQnpHonakPE= =i8pt -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Monday 01 January 2007 06:58, William Kenworthy wrote: > rattus ~ # emerge system -ep > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating system dependencies ... done! > rattus ~ # > > 3 systems like this, one installed only a few months ago works. And `emerge --info` ? -- Bo Andresen pgpVYBuUS9ovq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
Hi, so ... still hang up ? well unfortunately it gives the same result. Is there a way to log the activity of the USB devices? Regards, m -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 12:19 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Monday 01 January 2007 06:58, William Kenworthy wrote: > > rattus ~ # emerge system -ep > > > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > > > Calculating system dependencies ... done! > > rattus ~ # > > > > 3 systems like this, one installed only a few months ago works. > > And `emerge --info` ? > rattus ~ # emerge --info Portage 2.1.1-r2 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.4-r4, 2.6.19-gentoo-r2 i686) = System uname: 2.6.19-gentoo-r2 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ Gentoo Base System version 1.12.6 Last Sync: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 05:20:01 + distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [enabled] ccache version 2.3 [enabled] app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present] dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.31 dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r3, 2.4.3-r4 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: 2.3 dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.60 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.15.92.0.2-r10, 2.16.1-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.14 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.8.1-r1, 2.6.17-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-w -mcpu=athlon-xp -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -ftracer -fforce-addr" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/3.1/share/config /usr/kde/3.2/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/java-config/vms/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c" CXXFLAGS="-w -mcpu=athlon-xp -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -ftracer -fforce-addr" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="autoconfig ccache distcc distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict" GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/Gentoo" LANG="en_AU.UTF-8" LC_ALL="en_AU.UTF-8" LINGUAS="en" MAKEOPTS="-j5" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages'" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="x86 3dnow 3dnowex 3dnowext 7zip X X509 Xaw3d a52 aac aalib activefilter adns aim alsa alsa_cards_ali5451 alsa_cards_als4000 alsa_cards_atiixp alsa_cards_atiixp-modem alsa_cards_bt87x alsa_cards_ca0106 alsa_cards_cmipci alsa_cards_emu10k1x alsa_cards_ens1370 alsa_cards_ens1371 alsa_cards_es1938 alsa_cards_es1968 alsa_cards_fm801 alsa_cards_hda-intel alsa_cards_intel8x0 alsa_cards_intel8x0m alsa_cards_maestro3 alsa_cards_trident alsa_cards_usb-audio alsa_cards_via82xx alsa_cards_via82xx-modem alsa_cards_ymfpci alsa_pcm_plugins_adpcm alsa_pcm_plugins_alaw alsa_pcm_plugins_asym alsa_pcm_plugins_copy alsa_pcm_plugins_dmix alsa_pcm_plugins_dshare alsa_pcm_plugins_dsnoop alsa_pcm_plugins_empty alsa_pcm_plugins_extplug alsa_pcm_plugins_file alsa_pcm_plugins_hooks alsa_pcm_plugins_iec958 alsa_pcm_plugins_ioplug alsa_pcm_plugins_ladspa alsa_pcm_plugins_lfloat alsa_pcm_plugins_linear alsa_pcm_plugins_meter alsa_pcm_plugins_mulaw alsa_pcm_plugins_multi alsa_pcm_plugins_null alsa_pcm_plugins_plug alsa_pcm_plugins_rate alsa_pcm_plugins_route alsa_pcm_plugins_share alsa_pcm_plugins_shm alsa_pcm_plugins_softvol apache2 apm arts asf audiofile avahi bash-completion berkdb bidi bigger-fonts binfilter bitmap-fonts blas bluetooth bonobo browserplugin buffysize bzip2 bzlib c++ cairo cap cdda cddb cdparanoia cdr cgi cli corba cpudetection cracklib crypt cscope css cups curl daap dbus devmap dga dhcp divx divx4linux djvu dlloader dnd doc dri dts dv dvb dvd dvdr dvdread dvi dxr3 edl eds elibc_glibc emboss encode erandom escreen esd ethereal evo exif expat extensions faad fam fame fbcon fbsplash ffmpeg fftw firefox flac flash font-server foomaticdb fortran fpx freetds freetype gb gd gdbm ggi gif gimp gimpprint ginac glade glgd glibc-omitfp glut gmedia gmp gnome gnome-print gnomedb gnuplot gnutls gphoto2 gpm graphviz gs gsl gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml guile gzip hal hdf hdf5 howl-compat hpn httpd iconv icq idn imagemagick imap imlib imlib2 inkjar innodb input_devices_evdev input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse isdnlog jabber java javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k kde kdeenablefinal kdehiddenvisibility kdexdeltas kernel_linux kig-scripting kqemu largeterminal lcms ldap libcaca libclamav libg++ libgda libsamplerate libwww linguas_en live logitech-mouse logrotate lua lzo lzw-tiff mad maildir matroska mbrola mcal md
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags information resource
Thank you for the insight, Alan. I am just getting to the point of
understanding this. As a non -developer/programmer I have been at a loss to
understand these basic points about USE flags. Over time, they begin to
make sense. Your pointer about the ebuilds is extremely valuable.
Maybe it's just me, in my cluelessness? Some flags have not been obvious to
me; others have been ambiguous, at least to me. Maybe digging for all this
is what makes Gentoo such an excellent experience. On the other hand, a
little more clarity would not hurt, IMHO. Beggars can't be choicy, but is
it really not possible to provide a slightly clearer explanation of what a
USE flag does? I'd better shut up.
Alan
On 1/2/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Monday 01 January 2007 05:52, Alan E. Davis wrote:
> On 12/31/06, Aniruddha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think this is an excellent idea! For starters you can use euse:
> >
> > # euse -i useflagname
>
> I already use euse. It is really helpful. The short descriptions
> of the USE flags are often helpful. Just as often, they are not
> informative enough to enable me, at least, to make an informed
> decision. A little more information would often have helped.
>
> Do you have any ideas about a next step?
>
> Alan
AFAIK the only references to what the flags mean
is /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc. To find out more, read the ebuild to
see/divine what the developer has in mind with that flag. For instance,
kdebase-3.5.5-r3 has amongst others the following:
DEPEND="arts? ( ~kde-base/arts-${PV} )
>=media-libs/freetype-2
media-libs/fontconfig
pam? ( kde-base/kdebase-pam )
>=dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2
ldap? ( >=net-nds/openldap-2 )
cups? ( net-print/cups )
...
So you would have to look into those various optional packages, find out
what they are, then look into kdebase a bit deeper and find what it
does with those optional packages. For example, the 'ldap' flag causes
kdebase to be built against net-nds/openldap.
The point is that it's simply not possible to give detailed info about
USE flags most of the time, and some intense RTFCing and research is
involved
alan
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde - limit an icon to a single desktop
Uwe Thiem ha scritto: On 30 December 2006 20:09, »Q« wrote: This would be better asked in a KDE user forum, but I'm just getting Gentoo set up on a laptop and haven't found any KDE groups/lists yet. You can find all KDE-related lists on http://lists.kde.org. Is there a way to have an app-launching icon appear on one or more of the desktops but not on others? I did STFW, but I can't find anything about it. AFAIK, that's not possible. Looks like a cool feature for KDE 4... why don't you go there and suggest them to implement it? :) m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 unfortunatly you can use dmesg but if system hang up ... Does it work on other system ? like freebsd (live cd => freebies), or Windows (M$$) ??? Could you give us the model of your material ? I don't remember, it's a hard drive ? Send us their lspci -v and exact information of your device thx -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (MingW32) - WinPT 1.0.1 iD8DBQFFmnJEEg3iyspSWPARAgppAJ97X20ImPcV7Yq9emcIgsU1IvxDiQCdEwHG lKPSXCJ2CrQ/wcm6bCZ10fI= =qSgv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags information resource
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 15:35, Alan E. Davis wrote:
> Thank you for the insight, Alan. I am just getting to the point of
> understanding this. As a non -developer/programmer I have been at a
> loss to understand these basic points about USE flags. Over time,
> they begin to make sense. Your pointer about the ebuilds is
> extremely valuable.
You're welcome
> Maybe it's just me, in my cluelessness? Some flags have not been
> obvious to me; others have been ambiguous, at least to me. Maybe
> digging for all this is what makes Gentoo such an excellent
> experience. On the other hand, a little more clarity would not hurt,
> IMHO. Beggars can't be choicy, but is it really not possible to
> provide a slightly clearer explanation of what a USE flag does? I'd
> better shut up.
They are just another one of those things that are the way they are
because someone made them that way, and the existing descriptions of
USE flags are meant to be meaningful in one sentence. Returning to the
kdebase example:
[snip]
> > DEPEND="arts? ( ~kde-base/arts-${PV} )
> >
> > >=media-libs/freetype-2
> >
> > media-libs/fontconfig
> > pam? ( kde-base/kdebase-pam )
> >
> > >=dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2
> >
> > ldap? ( >=net-nds/openldap-2 )
> > cups? ( net-print/cups )
There are 3 flags there: pam, ldap and cups and the only thing anyone
can tell you about them is that they respectively enable pam, ldap and
cups support inside kdebase. As to what that means, you will have to
look at the kdebase documentation to find out what that package does
with pam.
xscreensavers also has a pam USE flag, and the way it uses pam might be
essentially the same as what kdebase does with it. Or it might not. It
all depends on how xscreensavers was written, and this is outside
gentoo's control.
I understand you would like more clarity and I get the kind of list you
would like to have. I want you to grasp though that this is not really
possible in any thorough way. A detailed explanation of what the USE
flags means inside each ebuild that uses it is something you might
suggest, but I'll bet money that you will be shot down in flames for
suggesting it. It will be a lot of extra work on top of a lot of
existing work, for precious little benefit as the info is usually
documented elsewhere in the package itself. And we are supposed to all
know how to RTFM right?
Welcome to the wonderful world of computing where nothing is as it first
seems :-)
alan
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde - limit an icon to a single desktop
On 02 January 2007 15:28, b.n. wrote: > Uwe Thiem ha scritto: > > On 30 December 2006 20:09, »Q« wrote: > >> This would be better asked in a KDE user forum, but I'm just getting > >> Gentoo set up on a laptop and haven't found any KDE groups/lists yet. > > > > You can find all KDE-related lists on http://lists.kde.org. > > > >> Is there a way to have an app-launching icon appear on one or more of > >> the desktops but not on others? I did STFW, but I can't find anything > >> about it. > > > > AFAIK, that's not possible. > > Looks like a cool feature for KDE 4... why don't you go there and > suggest them to implement it? :) Why don't you?bugs.kde.org does accept wishlist items. ;-) I am happy with the way it is since I rarely use desktop icons but stick to the customised selection of apps on my panel and the menus. Some will like your suggestion, some won't. So it would be yet another configuration option. I don't know. Maybe, KDE's HCI people should decide. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:46:59 +0800 "Chuanwen Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The command line installer is highly recommended, as it is more likely to boot on a given (especially uncommon) computer and is a more trustworthy install method. > Here is the hardware of my machine which I got it from Windows: > CPU: > Intel(R) Xeon (TM)CPU 3.0GHz > Intel(R) Xeon (TM)CPU 3.0GHz（双核） > Disk driver: > HP LOGICAL VOLUME SCSI DISK DEVICE > Ethernet: > HP NC7782 Gigabit server Adapter > Video card: > RAGE XL PCI Family > > 2007/1/1, Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Chuanwen Wu wrote: > > > > > 2006/12/31, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > >> On Sunday 31 December 2006 05:38, "Chuanwen Wu" > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > >> about '[gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server': > > >> > I want to install gentoo in my Hewlett-Packard server.It's my > > >> > first time to install linux in a server.I want to know that > > >> > which *.iso I should download and burn into the CD? > > >> > > >> HP has sold (at least) 2 different architectures in their server > > >> lines. What CPU does the system have, or if you don't know, > > >> what's the model number? > > > > > > The cpu is Intel 3.0G,Dual core. > > > > > > You will want the Live ISO image for a x86 install. > I have tried to install with "livecd-i686-installer-2006.1.iso".First > time,my machine can enter gnome,but in the way of the installing the > error occure(when installing grub): > > BootloadError:FATAL:__map_device_to_grub_device:ERROR, > could not map /dev/cciss/c0d0 to anything in the device map > > Then I couldn't enter the livecd anymore.Everytime I boot from the > livecd,my machine would stop at : > coldpluging pci devices > > even after I switched another CD-ROM. > > Now ,what should I do? Burn another liveCD?Or. > > > > > The HPPA won't run on x86, but it will run on he PA8000 cpu > > arch, the same CPU as the HP Visualize C180 I have sitting here. > > > > The Intel 3.0G Dual Core? Hmmm, that would be the 3.0G -D > > processor, as I don't know of any "Duo Core" hitting or exceeding > > 3GHz, I have a E6600 Duo core, and it will run the x86-32 and > > x86-64 arch's > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > Expert your advices! > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gnupg upgraded, problems arised
On Friday 29 December 2006 04:20, Andrew Gaydenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] [OT] gnupg upgraded, problems arised': > After yesterday syncing (~amd64) gnupg package was upgraded (and > de-slotted). Now - via KMail, KGpg, gpg CLI - my long-used password > suddenly become a 'bad passphrase'. I have tried reimport keys without > any success. Any news on this? I'd like to upgrade to gnupg-2.0*, but I don't want to lose access to my existing keys. Does a bug exist? /me goes bug searching. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpJ3TRxNs4yX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:46:59 +0800 "Chuanwen Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The command line installer is highly recommended, as it is more likely to boot on a given (especially uncommon) computer and is a more trustworthy install method. > Here is the hardware of my machine which I got it from Windows: > CPU: > Intel(R) Xeon (TM)CPU 3.0GHz > Intel(R) Xeon (TM)CPU 3.0GHz（双核） > Disk driver: > HP LOGICAL VOLUME SCSI DISK DEVICE > Ethernet: > HP NC7782 Gigabit server Adapter > Video card: > RAGE XL PCI Family > > 2007/1/1, Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Chuanwen Wu wrote: > > > > > 2006/12/31, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > >> On Sunday 31 December 2006 05:38, "Chuanwen Wu" > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > >> about '[gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server': > > >> > I want to install gentoo in my Hewlett-Packard server.It's my > > >> > first time to install linux in a server.I want to know that > > >> > which *.iso I should download and burn into the CD? > > >> > > >> HP has sold (at least) 2 different architectures in their server > > >> lines. What CPU does the system have, or if you don't know, > > >> what's the model number? > > > > > > The cpu is Intel 3.0G,Dual core. > > > > > > You will want the Live ISO image for a x86 install. > I have tried to install with "livecd-i686-installer-2006.1.iso".First > time,my machine can enter gnome,but in the way of the installing the > error occure(when installing grub): > > BootloadError:FATAL:__map_device_to_grub_device:ERROR, > could not map /dev/cciss/c0d0 to anything in the device map > > Then I couldn't enter the livecd anymore.Everytime I boot from the > livecd,my machine would stop at : > coldpluging pci devices > > even after I switched another CD-ROM. > > Now ,what should I do? Burn another liveCD?Or. > > > > > The HPPA won't run on x86, but it will run on he PA8000 cpu > > arch, the same CPU as the HP Visualize C180 I have sitting here. > > > > The Intel 3.0G Dual Core? Hmmm, that would be the 3.0G -D > > processor, as I don't know of any "Duo Core" hitting or exceeding > > 3GHz, I have a E6600 Duo core, and it will run the x86-32 and > > x86-64 arch's > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > Expert your advices! > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gnupg upgraded, problems arised
I have masked 2.x version as need to work. I'm not pgp guru and wil wait for other's opinions. === On Tuesday 02 January 2007 19:10, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: === On Friday 29 December 2006 04:20, Andrew Gaydenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] [OT] gnupg upgraded, problems arised': > After yesterday syncing (~amd64) gnupg package was upgraded (and > de-slotted). Now - via KMail, KGpg, gpg CLI - my long-used password > suddenly become a 'bad passphrase'. I have tried reimport keys without > any success. Any news on this? I'd like to upgrade to gnupg-2.0*, but I don't want to lose access to my existing keys. Does a bug exist? /me goes bug searching. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When could XGL support my video card ATI Radeon M300??
On Sunday 31 December 2006 06:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was interested in 3D desktop of XGL, but my video has not been supported > till now... This is the info of my card: > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon > Mobility M300] > > So, is there a hope for me to use XGL in future??? My Mobility X700 works quite well with opensource drivers included with xorg and AIGLX (never tried XGL, AIGLX is too simple to set up ;) ). Specifically, I tried it with x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.99.903-r1, media-libs/mesa-6.5.2, x11-libs/libdrm-2.3.0 and x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.6.3. But I still prefer using my i915, even though it's slower and uses shared memory, since x700 tends to have hiccups on heavy disk IO and uses more power (== shorter battery life). pgpFXrXwqUaPK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gnupg upgraded, problems arised
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 10:32, Andrew Gaydenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gnupg upgraded, problems arised': > I have masked 2.x version as need to work. > I'm not pgp guru and wil wait for other's opinions. I didn't find a bug filed, although there was one for the need (or lack thereof) to slot gnupg-2.0.x... Anyway, I uninstalled gnupg-1.4.x and gnupg-1.9.x and installed gnupg-2.0.x. I then shut down my agent(s) and any other programs that might be using the old gnupg libraries (like kmail). At this point, I'm not running gnupg-2.0.x and my old passphrase continues to work. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpmbUz1V04KM.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] gentoo overlays
hello, does anybody know if it is possible to make portage ignore an overlay for a single package, or if it is possible to install a package from a single overlay that i choose ? Cheers, Matt. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading mediawiki
Enrico Weigelt wrote: BTW: I'm a little bit confused why it needs root privileges to add / change some tables. Isn't the database already owned by the wiki's user ? ... strange ... Some people prefer to give their webapps limited insert, update, and delete access and it's likely that Mediawiki's updates require alter, create, drop, and file access which might be why they say to use an account with root privileges. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Driver of Intel 945's video card?
El Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:07:19 +0800 "Chuanwen Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Hi,everybody! > > When i do xorgconfig,I choose i810 to my video card driver of intel > 945. I can enter gnome but I found something is wrong: > The fonts in some vertical line is not clear,no matter the english > characters or the my local charcters. > > I am sure my fonts.conf is correct because I the same setting in my > another machine which the video card is not intel 945. > > there are some informaiton below: > #lspci > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 945G/P Memory Controller Hub > (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 945G > Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) > > And my display is 17inch's LCD screen. > > So I think maybe the driver is not very appropriate because I know the > i810 driver is very old. Hi! I have the same video card and use the i810 driver, it's the correct driver. Sorry for my english -- Sebastián pgp0vsl51aVZY.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] wrong subscription
Hi folks, who subscribed to this list as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? Idot! Would someone with enough karma please unsubscribe this address? Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 02:29:12 +0300, Mike Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sure others will disagree, but I really think if Gentoo is going to become a cornerstone in the desktop's replacement (like for thin clients) then there should probably be an option for a binary 'version' of portage. Gentoo is great in so many ways, but having to compile everything is sometimes just very unnecessary. I mean it's great if you want to teak your desktop, but it's just time consuming on a server or a slower embedded machine, and worst of all there's no benefit for compiling things in those areas. The other problem thing that will hold it back, I believe anyway, is the constant updating instead of release cycles. This can make administration very harsh on a system that you can only access remotely. AFAIK Gentoo is a meta-distribution. That is, its goal is to make it easier to create other distributions. When somebody installs Gentoo, compiles packages, and uses the resulting binaries for whatever purpose, there is a possibility to wrongfully conclude that the Gentoo distribution is being used by an end user. In fact, it has been used by a distribution developer to create a customized distribution which in its own turn has been used by an end user, while the fact that the distro developer and the end user are the same person is mere coincidence. Is it still true? If it is still true, then why should Gentoo, as represented by its developers, care if there are any servers too busy to compile anything and too deep in production to allow for testing upgrades? Indeed, how can Gentoo distribute binary packages when it does not know your CFLAGS and USE? One answer could be to run a server that takes CFLAGS and USE returning the resulting binary package. The server can be run by the Gentoo Foundation if it finds that the idea has business sense, but this issue is transcendental to Gentoo as a Distribution. How can Gentoo test if an update brakes something when it does not know the state of the system before the update? Possibly it could, if the portage tree had versions and users were severely limited in what configuration changes they can do. But how is it different from creating another distribution that is just based on Gentoo like Ubuntu is based on Debian? How could Gentoo increase its market share if such a potential future is to occur, or even better: how could Gentoo Foundation become pivotal in making it happen while retaining its values. Does Gentoo Foundation need greater market share? My impression is that developers need more good developers, not home users. I do not know what the Trustees want to achieve, but I guess that influence can be measured not only in the number of users, but also by the probability that Gentoo patches are accepted upstream, the number of application developers that release ebuilds, and the number of distributions that are based on or using Gentoo (really do not know how to find out if Gentoo is used by other distribution developers). As far as typical home users go, they don't really buy into things unless it's easy to use. Mainly because they are wanting a tool to accomplish a task. If Gentoo can provide that tool, then getting it into the living room wouldn't be a big deal. As it is now, unfortunately, Gentoo is not designed to be 'easy to use' in the sense of the average user's experience. Once it is, then it will be easier to market. I like the ability to tinker with Gentoo, but I just wish it wasn't a requirement to use it. I agree that a pretty good easy to use distribution for typical home users can be built with Gentoo. I do not care if it is built or not, but if it will make Gentoo more "healthy" or pleases Gentoo developers or Trustees in whatever way, I wish it is built. I do not want current Gentoo developers to spend their valuable time building such a distribution. -- Andrei Gerasimenko -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gnupg upgraded, problems arised
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:32:41 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > Any news on this? I'd like to upgrade to gnupg-2.0*, but I don't want > to lose access to my existing keys. Does a bug exist? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159505 You need to install pinentry. -- Neil Bothwick Machine-independent: Does not run on any existing machine. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gnupg upgraded, problems arised
It *isn't* a reason. 'pinentry' is (well, was. Now I have downgraded gnupg) installed, password is requested, but is "wrong". === On Tuesday 02 January 2007 21:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: === ... http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159505 You need to install pinentry. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Driver of Intel 945's video card?
I had the same problem with a laptop lcd until I realised that choosing the appropriate modeline will solve that. Try using the little gtf command line app to determine the right one, put it in xorg.conf and zap X. Maybe that helps? Greets, Karsten On 1/2/07, Sebastian Ferrara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: El Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:07:19 +0800 "Chuanwen Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Hi,everybody! > > When i do xorgconfig,I choose i810 to my video card driver of intel > 945. I can enter gnome but I found something is wrong: > The fonts in some vertical line is not clear,no matter the english > characters or the my local charcters. > > I am sure my fonts.conf is correct because I the same setting in my > another machine which the video card is not intel 945. > > there are some informaiton below: > #lspci > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 945G/P Memory Controller Hub > (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 945G > Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) > > And my display is 17inch's LCD screen. > > So I think maybe the driver is not very appropriate because I know the > i810 driver is very old. Hi! I have the same video card and use the i810 driver, it's the correct driver. Sorry for my english -- Sebastián
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo overlays
Hi, Am Dienstag, 02. Jan 2007, 18:22:14 + schrieb Matt Richards: > hello, does anybody know if it is possible to make portage ignore an > overlay for a single package, or if it is possible to install a package > from a single overlay that i choose ? Do you want to mention it in `/etc/portage/package.mask'? Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gnupg upgraded, problems arised
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:55:48 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > It *isn't* a reason. 'pinentry' is (well, was. Now I have downgraded > gnupg) installed, password is requested, but is "wrong". OK - you have a slightly different problem to the rest of us... good luck :) -- Neil Bothwick I stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo overlays
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:24:23 +0100, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > hello, does anybody know if it is possible to make portage ignore an > > overlay for a single package, or if it is possible to install a > > package from a single overlay that i choose ? > > Do you want to mention it in `/etc/portage/package.mask'? That will cause it to be ignored when the same version reaches portage. One way to pick individual packages from overlays is to copy them to your own overlay. -- Neil Bothwick The Borg assimilated my race & all I got was this T shirt. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mysql vs Mysql-community...
Jerry McBride wrote: Can someone tell me the major differences between mysql and mysql-community? Thank you, in advance... P.S. before you beat me up too badly, I've googled this one to death and not found anything that satisfies my curiousity. The answer at the moment appears to be that there is no difference. http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/12/29/where-to-get-recent-mysql-version/ However it looks like in the future the code paths will start to diverge. Here's a bit more about the upcoming split. http://www.planetmysql.org/kaj/?p=64 Ramin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs nvidia-legacy-drivers
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Bothwick) writes: >--Sig_=GcO_uMojmLMdt+2zEPWZf= >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:04:00 + (UTC), Konstantinos Agouros wrote: >> is there a way von x86 that I can keep nvidia-drivers and a=20 >> emerge -uDp world does not come up telling me that this is blocking >> the legacy-drivers package? >Are you saying that you have nvidia-driver installed but not >nvidia-legacy drivers, but a world update wants to pull in the legacy >package? if so, please post the output of=20 Exactly that. >emerge -uDvt world [blocks B ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers (is blocking x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers-1.0.7184) [ebuild UD] net-dns/bind-tools-9.3.2 [9.3.3] USE="ipv6 (-idn%)" 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-pda/multisync-0.83_pre20050414-r4 [0.83_pre20050414-r2] USE="ldap -arts* -bluetooth -evo -gnokii% -irmc -kdeenablefinal -kdepim -nokia6600% -pda" 0 kB [nomerge ] dev-java/jswat-2.21-r1 USE="-doc -jikes" [nomerge ] dev-java/ant-1.6.5 [nomerge ] dev-java/ant-tasks-1.6.5-r2 USE="-javamail -noantlr -nobcel -nobeanutils -nobsf -nobsh -nocommonslogging -nocommonsnet -nojdepend -nojsch -nojython -nolog4j -nooro -noregexp -norhino -noxalan -noxerces" [nomerge ]dev-java/commons-logging-1.0.4-r1 USE="-avalon -doc -jikes -source" [ebuild U ] dev-java/avalon-logkit-1.2-r2 [1.2] USE="-doc -javamail -jms -source% (-jikes%)" 0 kB [nomerge ] media-video/nvidia-settings-1.0.20061102 [ebuild N] x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers-1.0.7184 USE="dlloader" 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB Or is it nvidia-settings? Regards, Konstantin >--=20 >Neil Bothwick >If it doesn't fit, you're not using a big enough hammer. >--Sig_=GcO_uMojmLMdt+2zEPWZf= >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc >-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >iD8DBQFFmPU0um4al0N1GQMRAndsAJ9PvyomYrxbwCTYU3vTL0vvr59MzQCdF0Zq >5NZvYZrbgIHGJl99pq1k65I= >=X4xf >-END PGP SIGNATURE- >--Sig_=GcO_uMojmLMdt+2zEPWZf=-- >-- >gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elwood@agouros.de Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 "Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos." B'Elana Torres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mysql vs Mysql-community...
MySQL - Paid (Enterprise Edition), Paid Support MySQL Community - Free (Personal Edition), Community Support On 1/2/07, kashani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jerry McBride wrote: > Can someone tell me the major differences between mysql and mysql-community? > > Thank you, in advance... > > P.S. before you beat me up too badly, I've googled this one to death and not > found anything that satisfies my curiousity. The answer at the moment appears to be that there is no difference. http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/12/29/where-to-get-recent-mysql-version/ However it looks like in the future the code paths will start to diverge. Here's a bit more about the upcoming split. http://www.planetmysql.org/kaj/?p=64 Ramin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Ryan Crisman
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs nvidia-legacy-drivers
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:57:51 + (UTC), Konstantinos Agouros wrote: > [nomerge ] media-video/nvidia-settings-1.0.20061102 > [ebuild N] x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers-1.0.7184 > USE="dlloader" 0 kB > > Total size of downloads: 0 kB > > Or is it nvidia-settings? It certainly looks like nvidia-settings is trying to pull in the legacy package, probably because you have an older nvidia-drivers package. nvidia-settings needs either ">=nvidia-drivers-1.0.9625" or ">=x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers-1.0.7182". -- Neil Bothwick Why do we park in driveways and drive on parkways? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] freecell clone?
can anyone help me find a linux freecell clone? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] freecell clone?
Dan wrote: > can anyone help me find a linux freecell clone? > Both Pysol and Kpatience has this game. I think Pysol has a few different versions of it. Yea, I play cards a lot on the puter. Don't everybody bug me about it. :-O Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] freecell clone?
On Wednesday, 3 January 2007 8:04, Dan wrote: > can anyone help me find a linux freecell clone? Try xfreecell. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs nvidia-legacy-drivers
Hi I had that exact problem and removed nvidia-settings - it went away. Pete On 1/2/07, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:57:51 + (UTC), Konstantinos Agouros wrote: > [nomerge ] media-video/nvidia-settings-1.0.20061102 > [ebuild N] x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers-1.0.7184 > USE="dlloader" 0 kB > > Total size of downloads: 0 kB > > Or is it nvidia-settings? It certainly looks like nvidia-settings is trying to pull in the legacy package, probably because you have an older nvidia-drivers package. nvidia-settings needs either ">=nvidia-drivers-1.0.9625" or ">=x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers-1.0.7182". -- Neil Bothwick Why do we park in driveways and drive on parkways? -- Pete Pardoe
[gentoo-user] Gnome Power Management
OK, so I'm seeing some weird behavior with Gnome after upgrading from 2.14 to 2.16. I use the little battery applet that it comes with, and it's really messed up looking (looks empty on full charge and full on no charge). The messed up part happened before I upgraded, but now that I've upgraded I see the battery at 100% charge all the time which certainly isn't correct. I can use gkrellm to see that battery status, but I like the little applet in the top corner if I can get it to work properly. Also, I'm getting an error every time I start Gnome related to the battery, but I can't recall the exact wording off the top of my head right now (will post that back later I suppose). Should I just mv the .gnome directory and let it start me afresh perhaps? Randy Barlow http://www.electronsweatshop.com Jesuit priests are DATING CAREER DIPLOMATS!! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mysql vs Mysql-community...
Ryan Crisman wrote: MySQL - Paid (Enterprise Edition), Paid Support MySQL Community - Free (Personal Edition), Community Support While the above is true it fails to answer the question, "As DBA/sysadmin what is the actual difference between the two so I can pick the right one for my workload." At least that's the question I interpreted the first post as asking. Right now the code bases are exactly the same. Going forward it's not clear whether I'll be able to compile Mysql Enterprise myself with support for the Sphinx storage engine which is very fast for full text searches and a feature I desperately need. Also unclear is if the high concurrency Innodb thread fixes are going to be implemented in Community or Enterprise first. Enterprise appears to be the stable branch and will have changes back ported from Community, but the docs are less than clear at this point. In any case the issues are a bit more complicated than where your support comes from at least at the high end. For your general web-app either would be fine. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mysql vs Mysql-community...
I use MySQL alot at my Company and we use the Community version. I have found that its just as good as the Paid one which by the MySQL website says the paid one is more stable but I have yet to see any problems. On 1/2/07, kashani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ryan Crisman wrote: > MySQL - Paid (Enterprise Edition), Paid Support > MySQL Community - Free (Personal Edition), Community Support While the above is true it fails to answer the question, "As DBA/sysadmin what is the actual difference between the two so I can pick the right one for my workload." At least that's the question I interpreted the first post as asking. Right now the code bases are exactly the same. Going forward it's not clear whether I'll be able to compile Mysql Enterprise myself with support for the Sphinx storage engine which is very fast for full text searches and a feature I desperately need. Also unclear is if the high concurrency Innodb thread fixes are going to be implemented in Community or Enterprise first. Enterprise appears to be the stable branch and will have changes back ported from Community, but the docs are less than clear at this point. In any case the issues are a bit more complicated than where your support comes from at least at the high end. For your general web-app either would be fine. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Ryan Crisman
Re: [gentoo-user] freecell clone?
On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 15:34 -0600, Dan wrote: > can anyone help me find a linux freecell clone? I use kpat for Freecell. I love it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] acpi battery events, Sony FS740
On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 01:27 -0600, »Q« wrote:
> I'm nearly a complete newbie to power management. I've been reading
> and tinkering for the past three days. I'm not sure I know enough to
> explain my problem clearly, but I'll be glad to try to clarify or post
> more info if you can steer me a bit.
>
> I have a Sony Vaio FS740 laptop, and I have power management set up
> mostly to my liking, but with one problem. ACPI receives battery
> events when the AC is connect and when it is unconnected, but also at
> other times, and I don't know how to distinguish. If there are no
> actions for acpid to take when they happen, the
> script /etc/acpi/default.sh sends this to the syslog:
>
> logger: ACPI event unhandled: battery BAT0 0080 0001
> logger: ACPI event unhandled: battery BAT0 0080 0001
It could be a number of things - perhaps you have a faulty cable /
connection, which is causing ACPI events because it thinks it's just
been unplugged, and replugged.
Or perhaps your thinkpad sends ACPI events when the battery has reached
certain charge levels... don't know - someone with the same laptop will
have to comment.
Do these spontaneous ACPI events only happen when plugged in? or only
when unplugged, or both?
To get around it, perhaps you could keep "state" with a file. eg
(untested):
-
BRIGHTNESS_AC="4"
BRIGHTNESS_BATTERY="1"
ALREADY_PLUGGED_IN="/.power"
if on_ac_power
then
if -f ${ALREADY_PLUGGED_IN} then
logger "Recieved ACPI power event, but already plugged in!"
else
logger "Setting LCD to brightness ${BRIGHTNESS_AC}"
echo $BRIGHTNESS_AC > /proc/acpi/sony/brightness
touch ${ALREADY_PLUGGED_IN}
fi
else
logger "Setting LCD to brightness ${BRIGHTNESS_BATTERY}"
echo $BRIGHTNESS_BATTERY > /proc/acpi/sony/brightness
rm ${ALREADY_PLUGGED_IN}
fi
-
This will only work for the already-plugged-in-acpi-event, you may have
to do a bit of playing if you also get an already-unplugged-acpi-event,
but I have to leave some fun for you!
HTH!
--
Iain Buchanan
It is better to have loved and lost -- much better.
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Power Management
On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 17:05 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > Also, I'm getting an error every time I start Gnome related to the > battery, but I can't recall the exact wording off the top of my head > right now (will post that back later I suppose). Should I just mv > the .gnome directory and let it start me afresh perhaps? OK, so I've all of the gnome dot files to .old to get a "fresh" setup, and I still get the power error when I start up. The error says, "GConf schema installer error, battery_low_percentage cannot be zero". And the top says "Power Manager". Any ideas? R -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Power Management
On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 18:31 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 17:05 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > > Also, I'm getting an error every time I start Gnome related to the > > battery, but I can't recall the exact wording off the top of my head > > right now (will post that back later I suppose). Should I just mv > > the .gnome directory and let it start me afresh perhaps? > > OK, so I've all of the gnome dot files to .old to get a "fresh" setup, > and I still get the power error when I start up. The error says, "GConf > schema installer error, battery_low_percentage cannot be zero". And the > top says "Power Manager". Any ideas? try running gconf-editor and go to: /apps/gnome-power-manager/battery_percentage_low and setting it to something other than 0. It sounds like it's set to the wrong value, and somethings getting confused... HTH! -- Iain Buchanan Did you ever walk into a room and forget why you walked in? I think that's how dogs spend their lives. -- Sue Murphy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] freecell clone?
gnome-extra/gnome-games-2.16.2 (/usr/bin/sol) (you need the guile use flags to get all the games). allan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] RSS video aggregator
I've been using democracy for a while (www.getdemocracy.com) and I really like having RSS video managed for me but democracy is driving me nuts. It has some problems. Is there anything else available in portage or a layman overlay that could help me manage RSS video? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] EVMS
Hey folks, Well, I thought I would update on my transfer. I couldn't figure out how to make a initrd thing first off. I also just could not figure out how EVMS really worked. Maybe it was just a bad time to try to teach a old dog new tricks. Anyway, I got my OS transfered anyway. I had a friend to give me a old computer. It had a 40Gb drive in it. I stuck it in my system and transfered everything over to it. Then I repartitioned my two 80GB drives and transfered my OS back. Worked like a champ. Maybe later on I can figure out how EVMS works and do it that way. I was mostly concerned that it would work then something would go wrong and I couldn't figure out how to fix it. That is something I would rather not happen. Maybe later on I can give it another try. Thanks Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Power Management
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 13:01 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > try running gconf-editor and go to: > /apps/gnome-power-manager/battery_percentage_low and setting it to > something other than 0. It sounds like it's set to the wrong value, and > somethings getting confused... Well that's exactly the weird thing. I already played with gconf-editor, and used its search function to find battery_percentage_low, and it doesn't exist. Actually apps/gnome-power-manager isn't even there. Perhaps that is the problem... Gnome power manager is certainly installed, however, so something isn't quite right. Any ideas on why it's not in my gconf-editor? Should I take this to a gnome mailing list, or is it more likely a problem with the ebuild? Randy Barlow http://www.electronsweatshop.com Jesuit priests are DATING CAREER DIPLOMATS!! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Power Management
equery check gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager BillK On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 23:27 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 13:01 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > try running gconf-editor and go to: > > /apps/gnome-power-manager/battery_percentage_low and setting it to > > something other than 0. It sounds like it's set to the wrong value, and > > somethings getting confused... > > Well that's exactly the weird thing. I already played with > gconf-editor, and used its search function to find > battery_percentage_low, and it doesn't exist. Actually > apps/gnome-power-manager isn't even there. Perhaps that is the > problem... Gnome power manager is certainly installed, however, so > something isn't quite right. Any ideas on why it's not in my > gconf-editor? Should I take this to a gnome mailing list, or is it more > likely a problem with the ebuild? > > Randy Barlow > http://www.electronsweatshop.com > Jesuit priests are DATING CAREER DIPLOMATS!! > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Driver of Intel 945's video card?
Thank Sebastian Ferrara and karlos! Now I have fixed the problem.The cause is the inappropriate setting of the LCD.It's my first time to use a LCD,and I even didn't know Lcd is so different from CRT. After I press "auto",everything is all right! To Sebastian Ferrara: The i810 driver is Ok.But it seems someone has reported that the i810 just can be used with the LCD that smaller or equal than 17inch(mine is 17inch,so is ok,too ).I have found a article on gentoo-wiki about the configuration of the kernel to use Intel_945G.May be you will be interested. Best regards, -- wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Power Management
I've added apps/gnome-power-manager, and then I made the battery_percentage_low key and set it to 5, and now the problem is gone. But I still wonder if this is a bug I should file, or just leave it be. It seems like this key should have been initialized to *something* for me by the ebuild so that I didn't get an error every time I started gnome after an upgrade, but that might just be my opinion... Randy Barlow http://www.electronsweatshop.com Jesuit priests are DATING CAREER DIPLOMATS!! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Power Management
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 13:37 +0900, W.Kenworthy wrote: > equery check gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager [ Checking gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-2.16.2 ] * 390 out of 390 files good Randy Barlow http://www.electronsweatshop.com Jesuit priests are DATING CAREER DIPLOMATS!! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 02 January 2007 08:50, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > > I also think that emerge should keep track of the config files > > installed by packages, so that etc-update knows if you've got local > > modifications, and give you a big warning when you might lose a > > change you made. > > Huh? Portage already does this. Standard config dirs are > CONFIG_PROTECTed which is where etc-update comes in. It will merge > trivial changes (whitespace, etc) and let *you* chose what to do for > everything else. You get to keep the original file, use the update, or > use a customized merge of the two. The issue is that etc-update doesn't have the version of the config file as installed by the version of the package that's being replaced, so it can't tell the difference between non-trivial changes to the config file as shipped by gentoo between the old version and the new version and non-trivial local modifications that I've made myself to a config file which has not been changed between package versions. I've definitely had etc-update ask for confirmation on files I'm sure I didn't change (including, in some cases, executables that get installed in protected directories). > There is no need to give you a big warning if you might lose a change - > the very act of running etc-update at all IS that warning. It's > understood that if the new file shows up, then you DO have local > modifications It's understood that there is a difference between what I'm using now and what new package comes with. But there's no information on whether that difference came from local modifications. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 01:50:27 -0500 (EST), Daniel Barkalow wrote:
>
> > I think it would be useful to have an ebuild thing for "upgrading to
> > this package from version {expression} requires the following steps",
> > such that the message will be displayed only if you're doing that, and
> > such that the upgrade will be masked if you're being conservative in
> > upgrading.
>
> It already does, with has_version. Look at the pkg_setup() part of the
> postfix ebuild for an example of this in use.
Perhaps it just needs to be more popular, or maybe it needs to understand
slots better (in order to be popular). I know that all of the kernels I
install tell me that support for devfs was removed long before the oldest
kernel available in portage as of when I installed the machine.
It also doesn't look like it's something where it would be able to choose
to upgrade postfix 2.2.10 to 2.2.10-r1 instead of to 2.3.5 because 2.3.5
would require help and 2.2.10-r1 is automatic.
-Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 07:21, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 January 2007 08:50, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > > > I also think that emerge should keep track of the config files > > > installed by packages, so that etc-update knows if you've got > > > local modifications, and give you a big warning when you might > > > lose a change you made. > > > > Huh? Portage already does this. Standard config dirs are > > CONFIG_PROTECTed which is where etc-update comes in. It will merge > > trivial changes (whitespace, etc) and let *you* chose what to do > > for everything else. You get to keep the original file, use the > > update, or use a customized merge of the two. > > The issue is that etc-update doesn't have the version of the config > file as installed by the version of the package that's being > replaced, so it can't tell the difference between non-trivial changes > to the config file as shipped by gentoo between the old version and > the new version and non-trivial local modifications that I've made > myself to a config file which has not been changed between package > versions. I've definitely had etc-update ask for confirmation on > files I'm sure I didn't change (including, in some cases, executables > that get installed in protected directories). Neither the computer nor etc-update can think. So why are you asking it to think? Because that's what you are asking it to do - make an intelligent decision about a config file based on it's contents and how it differs from a new version. The only possible thing etc-update could ever do is look for trivial changes and ignore them. How would you detect the difference between non-trivial changes to shipped versions and non-trivial changes made locally? You can't say that if the config file exists and hasn't changed since installation then overwrite it with the new shipped version - that might change the behaviour of an *existing* system (without notification) if the user likes the old way and does not like the new way. This will cause b.g.o. to be flooded with bugs about how emerge obliterated working config files - are you going to be the one to answer all those bug reports? > > There is no need to give you a big warning if you might lose a > > change - the very act of running etc-update at all IS that warning. > > It's understood that if the new file shows up, then you DO have > > local modifications > > It's understood that there is a difference between what I'm using now > and what new package comes with. But there's no information on > whether that difference came from local modifications. And neither should there be. Etc-update knows the files are *different* and stops right there. Evaluating what that difference means is a human's job because it's not a monkey-see, monkey-do process. Again: the computer cannot think. Don't expect it to. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
