Re: [gentoo-user] shared portage tree
On 24 September 2007, Daniel Iliev wrote: Hi, folks Is there any problem to share portage tree over nfs between different archs? In this particular case I want to use a machine with arc=amd64 as a nfs server and share its tree with several x86 machines. That's fine. Uwe -- Jack Nicholson: My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son of a bitch. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new machine: Intel quad vs duo
On Monday, 24. September 2007, Philip Webb wrote: I'm getting close to buying the parts for my new machine (see earlier msgs) an Intel quad-core mentioned by a helpful responder has now come down almost within my price range. The CPU I have been contemplating for some weeks is an 'Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 4 MB 65 nm 2,67 GHz', which sells for CAD 225 , but there is now 'Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 8 MB 65 nm 2,4 GHz' for CAD 305 ; the 8 MB cache in the latter divides into 2 x 4 MB / pair processors. Prices continue to drop weekly should go lower with our higher CAD. My guess is that even a dual-core CPU wb overkill for my simple desktop, but I'm keen to get value for money in a machine intended to last to 2011 . Does anyone have any thoughts re dual- vs quad-core processors when used for various purposes with Gentoo ? I've got no experience with quad, but I can say this with experience: even for a desktop you feel that dual processor is better than dual core, while dual core is better than single core. It's not a matter of speed (or seldom is), it's a much smoother multitasking. As my dual core are more often stuck doing something than my dual processor, I'd tend to think that a quad core would not bring much, but can anyone confirm? Thierry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] shared portage tree
Daniel Iliev wrote: Hi, folks Is there any problem to share portage tree over nfs between different archs? In this particular case I want to use a machine with arc=amd64 as a nfs server and share its tree with several x86 machines. I do exactly that. The server is an AMD Opteron running 64 bits and there is a mix of x86, amd64 and Intel EM64T machines on the network - all nfs sharing /usr/portage on the server. :) Be lucky, Neil -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: star
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'd like to know: Is it fully backward compatible to tar? Could I safely unmerge tar and make a symlink from tar to star? star is fully Posix compliant. GNU tar is not. In theory, there could be problems with GNU tar tar archives if they are unpacked using star. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: star
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Samstag, 22. September 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: star supports p7zip which can be much better and especially more flexible than bzip2, gzip and zip. Its other features (better funcionality for acl, sparse files, recovery and backups among other things) didn't sound bad, either. I don't know - bzip2 is very good at 'recovery' because only the affected block is lost. True - in theory. It doesn't help you much, if you lose a block in a .tar.bz2 file, as the block sizes of bzip2 and tar won't overlap. Thus, something like .bz2.tar would be better, meaning a tar which contains pre compressed files. Granted, compression ratio would be worse. If you want safety, I'd either suggest afio or maybe something like par. and if p7zip supports pipes, you don't need its support in tar. Just pipe from/to it. It does and that's the way it's supposed to be used on unix, according to its manpage. as you can see, you need to play around with pipes anyway when you use star. So switching just because of one compression algo and become incompatible with the way emerge unpacks packages sounds pretty stupid IMHO. ACK Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to dhcp to a specific address, and thank you
I hope I will be forgiven for wasting bandwidth; I want very much to express my gratitude to those developers, documentation writers, and others, that Gentoo is such an excellent distro. If three is anything I can figure to do---possible documentation or perhaps an ebuild or two---I want to do so. For right now, let me send my thanks to all. I cannot express my good feelings well enough about the solidity of my new install. I have gotten Gentoo running on a new machine (my fourth install, I think), and it all went well---better than ever! I am highly pleased... I was even able to connect to a WPA encrypted network with minimal hassle, using excellent instructions availalbe in the docs, forum, and wiki. It went more easily than a year ago. My QUESTION: I connect two machines at home to a wireless router, with my IP number a local one, assigned by the router. Is it reasonable to set this up so my main home machine has the same IP number always, so I can set up other machines to print over the local wireless net? ASIDE: I can't speak too highly of the solidity of the install. Maybe partly because I now understand the Gentoo system better, I have not had to ask many questions. When something troubles, it is easier to figure out why. I don't want to bog down in a discussion of other distros and the fiddling that led to nowhere; suffice it to say, Gentoo just works, for me, as long as I am willing to put in the time, and my other efforts were less satisfactory. Thank you! Alan Davis -- Alan Davis, Kagman High School, Saipan [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's never a matter of liking or disliking ... ---Santa Ynez Chumash Medicine Man
Re: [gentoo-user] How to dhcp to a specific address, and thank you
Alan E. Davis wrote: My QUESTION: I connect two machines at home to a wireless router, with my IP number a local one, assigned by the router. Is it reasonable to set this up so my main home machine has the same IP number always, so I can set up other machines to print over the local wireless net? Yes, of course you can. You can either set it up with a static address in /etc/conf.d/net with something like: config_ath0=( 192.168.1.2 ) routes_ath0=( default via 192.168.1.1 ) substituting whatever is appropriate for your interface and addresses or you can configure the router to always give the same IP address to the MAC address of your main machine. Be lucky, Neil -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] shared portage tree
Thanks for the replies, guys. Yes. This setup works here also and I have no breakages, but since I've let the x86 machies use shared portage tree I have the feeling the performance of portage dropped down notably. I don't know what happens at the end of emerge --sync, what the metadata consists of and if it is the same for each arch and installation. Should I do emerge --regen after syncing on each machine or something like that? P.S. For sure it's not the network connection that slows down the searches, because I made some tests on the NFS which showed transfer speeds in the range of 6.5 to 10MiB/s. I think it's just fine on a 100Mbit connection. -- Best regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] shared portage tree
On Monday 24 September 2007 13:36:34 Daniel Iliev wrote: Yes. This setup works here also and I have no breakages, but since I've let the x86 machies use shared portage tree I have the feeling the performance of portage dropped down notably. I don't know what happens at the end of emerge --sync, what the metadata consists of and if it is the same for each arch and installation. Should I do emerge --regen after syncing on each machine or something like that? If anything you should do emerge --metadata. If transfers the metadata/cache to /var/cache/edb. If you never modify eclasses in /usr/portage you can alternatively use the metadata_overlay cache module... http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/faq.xml -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] help with the dreaded mount: RPC: Program not registered
On 9/23/07, Emil Beinroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 03:37:36PM -0400, John Blinka wrote: - ls -lA /var/lib/init.d/ [snip] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 21 13:16 softscripts.old That shouldn't be there. Normally, that directory is created and later removed by /sbin/rc - which is run numerous times at boot. So this seems really wrong. I would suggest a clean cut by running `rm -fr /var/lib/init.d/` and doing a reboot. Services won't be stopped, but your filesystems will be remouted ro, so they should be fine. I've tested this on my box and didn't have any problems. Did as you suggested. softscripts.old reappeared and no change in inability to start nfs automatically, or by hand. I think it happens when booting, but I see this message in the system log: Sep 23 21:12:01 tobey rc-scripts: ERROR: cannot start nfs as rpc.statdcould not start Does that shed any light? John
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing CHOST
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:38:36 -0400, David Relson wrote: I recall installing Gentoo as being a P.I.T.A, hence take no pleasure in the idea of re-installing. I was hoping for something relatively simple, like changing CHOST and emerging world unpacking amd64 stage3 tarball on top of root or something else Unpacking a stage 3 tarball on top of a working system is a good way of converting it to a non-working system. It will also overwrite many of your settings in /etc. If you are going to use a stage 3 tarball as a basis, a clean stage 3 install is by far the safest option, and usually turns out to be the quickest too. Backup /etc and your world file first, use your old make.conf as a starting point and recreate your old environment on the new hardware with emerge -1av $(cat oldworld) -- Neil Bothwick Electric chairs are period furniture: they end a sentence signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Ati 3d not working
Hey Anybody had any luck with enabling opengl in gnome with a ATI FireGL V3300 card. I have the proprietary driver loaded and working, but my log tells me I have no 3d support because of some DRI issues. (WW) fglrx(0): *** (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available* (WW) fglrx(0): * * I have compiled the xorg server with the following settings: x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0 USE=dri ipv6 nptl xorg INPUT_DEVICES=evdev keyboard mouse VIDEO_CARDS=fglrx and the ati driver with these settings: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.39.4 USE=-acpi I have include my log and my config if they could be useful in clearing up the issue. Any help or pointer appriciated. -- Regards / Venlig hilsen Johannes Skov Frandsen X Window System Version 1.3.0 Release Date: 19 April 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3 Build Operating System: UNKNOWN Current Operating System: Linux dionysus 2.6.22-gentoo-r2 #8 SMP Mon Sep 24 13:11:10 CEST 2007 i686 Build Date: 24 September 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon Sep 24 16:16:29 2007 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout Simple Layout (**) |--Screen ATI Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor HP LP2465 (**) | |--Device ATI FireGL V3300 (**) |--Input Device Mouse1 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard1 (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ (==) RgbPath set to /usr/share/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel (II) Loader magic: 0x81ddf40 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3 X.Org Video Driver: 1.2 X.Org XInput driver : 0.7 X.Org Server Extension : 0.3 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: pcidata (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so (II) Module pcidata: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2 (++) using VT number 7 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,277c card 103c,280c rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,277d card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1b:0: chip 8086,27d8 card 103c,280c rev 01 class 04,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1c:0: chip 8086,27d0 card , rev 01 class 06,04,00 hdr 81 (II) PCI: 00:1c:4: chip 8086,27e0 card , rev 01 class 06,04,00 hdr 81 (II) PCI: 00:1c:5: chip 8086,27e2 card , rev 01 class 06,04,00 hdr 81 (II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,27c8 card 103c,280c rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,27c9 card 103c,280c rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,27ca card 103c,280c rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:3: chip 8086,27cb card 103c,280c rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:7: chip 8086,27cc card 103c,280c rev 01 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card , rev e1 class 06,04,01 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,27b8 card 103c,280c rev 01 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,27df card 103c,280c rev 01 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,27c3 card 103c,280c rev 01 class 01,04,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,7152 card 1002,1b02 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 01:00:1: chip 1002,7172 card 1002,1b03 rev 00 class 03,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 3f:00:0: chip 14e4,167b card 103c,280c rev 02 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Intel Bridge workaround enabled (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,63), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000a (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 1 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x1000 - 0x1fff (0x1000) IX[B] (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xe050 - 0xe07f (0x30) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xd000 - 0xe01f (0x1020) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 16: bridge is at (0:28:0), (0,16,16), BCTRL: 0x0006 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 40: bridge is at (0:28:4), (0,40,40),
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati 3d not working
¿how are your kernel settings regarding acceleration? 2007/9/24, Johannes Skov Frandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey Anybody had any luck with enabling opengl in gnome with a ATI FireGL V3300 card. I have the proprietary driver loaded and working, but my log tells me I have no 3d support because of some DRI issues. (WW) fglrx(0): *** (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available* (WW) fglrx(0): * * I have compiled the xorg server with the following settings: x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0 USE=dri ipv6 nptl xorg INPUT_DEVICES=evdev keyboard mouse VIDEO_CARDS=fglrx and the ati driver with these settings: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.39.4 USE=-acpi I have include my log and my config if they could be useful in clearing up the issue. Any help or pointer appriciated. -- Regards / Venlig hilsen Johannes Skov Frandsen Section ServerLayout Identifier Simple Layout Screen 0 ATI Screen 0 0 InputDeviceMouse1 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard1 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load dbe # Double buffer extension SubSection extmod Option omit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension EndSubSection Load freetype Load dri Load glx EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout dk EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol Auto # Auto detect Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 Option Emulate3Buttons EndSection Section Monitor Identifier HP LP2465 Option VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver Option ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor Option DPMS true EndSection Section Device Identifier ATI FireGL V3300 Driver fglrx EndSection Section Screen Identifier ATI Screen Device ATI FireGL V3300 MonitorHP LP2465 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section dri Mode 0666 EndSection
Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] shared portage tree
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:47:23 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 September 2007 13:36:34 Daniel Iliev wrote: Yes. This setup works here also and I have no breakages, but since I've let the x86 machies use shared portage tree I have the feeling the performance of portage dropped down notably. I don't know what happens at the end of emerge --sync, what the metadata consists of and if it is the same for each arch and installation. Should I do emerge --regen after syncing on each machine or something like that? If anything you should do emerge --metadata. If transfers the metadata/cache to /var/cache/edb. If you never modify eclasses in /usr/portage you can alternatively use the metadata_overlay cache module... http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/faq.xml Thanks, Bo! I removed /var/cache/edb, added -metadata-transfer to FEATURES and then put portdbapi.auxdbmodule = cache.metadata_overlay.database in /etc/portage/modules. After the first emerge -DuN world -p which took about 6min to rebuild the cache now the performance is back to normal: emerge -DuN world takes about 1min - 1min30sec -- Best regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing CHOST
Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:38:36 -0400, David Relson wrote: I recall installing Gentoo as being a P.I.T.A, hence take no pleasure in the idea of re-installing. I was hoping for something relatively simple, like changing CHOST and emerging world unpacking amd64 stage3 tarball on top of root or something else Unpacking a stage 3 tarball on top of a working system is a good way of converting it to a non-working system. It will also overwrite many of your settings in /etc. If you are going to use a stage 3 tarball as a basis, a clean stage 3 install is by far the safest option, and usually turns out to be the quickest too. Backup /etc and your world file first, use your old make.conf as a starting point and recreate your old environment on the new hardware with emerge -1av $(cat oldworld) Just a thought: Is it possible to compile a 64bit kernel and use him on the current system? That way you could set up your new native 64bit system in a chroot before overwriting the old one and thus minimize downtime to less than 15 minutes. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] auto proxy config (Firefox, and more)
Hi, I'm using my notebook in the school (via Wi-Fi + Cisco VPN) and at home. At school I need a proxy, but not at home. I tried this as a proxy automatic configuration file (*.pac), but it doesn't work : function FindProxyForURL(url, host) { if (myIpAddress().substring(0,7) == 192.168) { return DIRECT; } else { if (isPlainHostName(host) || dnsDomainIs(host, .he-arc.ch) || dnsDomainIs(host, .eiaj.ch) || dnsDomainIs(host, .heaa-ne.ch) || dnsDomainIs(host, .hegne.ch) || dnsDomainIs(host, .career-women.ch) || dnsDomainIs(host, .ilce.ch) || dnsDomainIs(host, .isnetne.ch) || dnsDomainIs(host, .agf.hes.so.ch) || dnsDomainIs(host, .hesap1.eif.ch) || host == 127.0.0.1 || host.substring(0,3) == 10. || host.substring(0,10) == 157.26.64. || host.substring(0,8) == 192.168. || host == 57.26.241.20) { return DIRECT; } else { return PROXY proxy.he-arc.ch:8080; } } } At school, it works correctly (it uses the proxy when it is necessary), but not at home. I think the myIpAddress is maybe not the right solution. Does anybody have an idea how to solve my problem ? I would prefer a more global solution (for the whole system, not only Firefox), but if you have an idea for Firefox, I would be really happy ! Thanks Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: star
Alexander Skwar schrieb: Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: star supports p7zip which can be much better and especially more flexible than bzip2, gzip and zip. Uhm, what's bad about tar cf - | p7zip It's a bit cumbersome to create a pipe each time I access an archive. Well, I think I'll create a shell script or an alias for that. If star were a fully qualified replacement for gnu tar, there would not have been the need to keep it To keep GNU tar, you mean? Well, there's at least a reason to not ONLY have star: Star is made by Jörg Schilling, one of the biggest morons on the earth. Guess why some distributions no longer use cdrecord but switched to cdrkit? I used find and grep to search for any implementations of tar compressing to stdout - I couldn't find any. What do you mean? Just that I used regular expressions to search for tar writing to stdout, something that star can't, apparently. It seems it didn't work. Not all but some emerge actions failed while using star. I'll move /bin/tar to /bin/gnutar and make a symlink from /usr/bin/star to /bin/tar. Let's see if it works. Command line options aren't identical. I wouldn't wonder if you run into problems. Well, most are. I ran into problems anyway (see above). So, I'm back to gnu tar. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: star
On 24 Sep 2007, at 09:30, Alexander Skwar wrote: ... and if p7zip supports pipes, you don't need its support in tar. Just pipe from/to it. It does and that's the way it's supposed to be used on unix, according to its manpage. GNU tar features the -j, -z and -Z options. These are much more convenient than piping, and it would be nice to see p7zip supported in the same way. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] shared portage tree
In this particular case I want to use a machine with arc=amd64 as a nfs server and share its tree with several x86 machines. I ran a similar NFS setup couple years back when breaking my teeth with Gentoo. Had intermittent problems with the NFS locks, and speed was slow too, so gave up. Though, it might've been just me and my poor NFS setup skills, or some settings in my kernel. From other people's comments and links I noticed they now have some helpful scripts. Wish I had seen them earlier or been able to type out some of my own. :) I switched the server over to providing local Gentoo rsync mirroring for the LAN instead: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Local_Rsync_Mirror I combine this with Squid (proxy) and a few gigs of proxy disk cache on the server end to have the server perform as a complete buffer/cache between my LAN boxen and the external Interweb world. And it doubles as the proxy for regular browsing, too. HTH. YMMV. HAND. -- arttu v. _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to get hotplug goign?
Can somebody point me to some documentation on how to get hotplug working under Gentoo? I'm trying to use a ti USB/serial dongle which needs a hotplug script run. I've put the script in /etc/hotplug/usb/module-name, but it doesn't get called. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I want a VEGETARIAN at BURRITO to go ... with visi.comEXTRA MSG!! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Trouble fetching all required files for network-less machine
I'm trying to fetch all possible files including those that might satisfy dependencies and USE flags for every package on my system. The reason I'm doing this is because I have a network-less machine that I wish to transfer these files to so that I may have the same environment on both machines. But every so often a package fails to install because of failure to fetch dependencies. On my networked machine I run emerge -efD world and emerge -fD system it fetches files and completes without errors. I then take a copy of the distfiles dir to the networkless machine and run emerge k3b, for example, and it fails because it was unable to fetch some dependent file. This after I ran the same command on my networked machine and moving distfiles to my networkless box. Both profiles on the two machines are identical and they use the same USE flags. How can I make sure that every possible or contingent file is fetch? For example...I might not use the mp3 USE flag or any other use flag for a program but I would like it to satisfy all possible FLAGS when fetching...How can I go about doing that? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: How to get hotplug goign?
On 2007-09-24, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can somebody point me to some documentation on how to get hotplug working under Gentoo? I'm trying to use a ti USB/serial dongle which needs a hotplug script run. I've put the script in /etc/hotplug/usb/module-name, but it doesn't get called. As far as I can tell /etc/hotplug/usb.agent never even gets called. And the most recent version of sys-apps/hotplug is over three years old? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I've got an IDEA!! at Why don't I STARE at you visi.comso HARD, you forget your SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER!! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble fetching all required files for network-less machine
On Monday 24 September 2007, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: I'm trying to fetch all possible files including those that might satisfy dependencies and USE flags for every package on my system. The reason I'm doing this is because I have a network-less machine that I wish to transfer these files to so that I may have the same environment on both machines. But every so often a package fails to install because of failure to fetch dependencies. On my networked machine I run emerge -efD world and emerge -fD system it fetches files and completes without errors. I then take a copy of the distfiles dir to the networkless machine and run emerge k3b, for example, and it fails because it was unable to fetch some dependent file. This after I ran the same command on my networked machine and moving distfiles to my networkless box. Both profiles on the two machines are identical and they use the same USE flags. How can I make sure that every possible or contingent file is fetch? For example...I might not use the mp3 USE flag or any other use flag for a program but I would like it to satisfy all possible FLAGS when fetching...How can I go about doing that? Do two things: Use 'emerge -F' instead of 'emerge -f' Use 'emerge --with-bdeps y' -F will fetch everything in SRC_URI regardless of USE settings etc. --with-bdeps is more complex. Basically, sometimes a dep is required to build a package but not to run it. This setting either includes or excludes such things in it's emerge calculations. Both options are more fully described in 'man emerge' alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to dhcp to a specific address, and thank you
On Monday 24 September 2007, Neil Walker wrote: Alan E. Davis wrote: My QUESTION: I connect two machines at home to a wireless router, with my IP number a local one, assigned by the router. Is it reasonable to set this up so my main home machine has the same IP number always, so I can set up other machines to print over the local wireless net? Yes, of course you can. You can either set it up with a static address in /etc/conf.d/net with something like: config_ath0=( 192.168.1.2 ) routes_ath0=( default via 192.168.1.1 ) substituting whatever is appropriate for your interface and addresses or you can configure the router to always give the same IP address to the MAC address of your main machine. Or you can set it at the router, i.e. assign static IP addresses at the router GUI and run dhcpcd at your different boxen. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
As I have previously posted about, my host sent me an email a few days ago stating that support tickets for 5,000-6,000 of their clients had been broken into. I checked my records and found that my root password had previously been submitted in a support ticket. I then decided I needed to reinstall my system. I requested that my host allow me access to a second machine for 2-5 days while I switch over to a clean system, after that I would turn the old system over to them and continue with the new system. My request was denied! I'm blown away by this. Was I asking too much? - Grant Would it be unreasonable to tell us who this host is? I want to make sure I don't host any sites on their system; if they can't secure their work tickets, what makes anybody think they can secure anything else? I'm taking a guess it's these guys: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/19/layered_technologies_breach_disclosure/ - Noven Bingo. They sent me another message with an offer that could be what I asked for. It was vague. I replied and lookie here: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/usr/local/sbin/cerberus /usr/local/etc/config.xml FATAL /var/log/cerberus.log I guess that means they're working on the system. I'll try to send again. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: How to get hotplug goign?
On 2007-09-24, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can somebody point me to some documentation on how to get hotplug working under Gentoo? I'm trying to use a ti USB/serial dongle which needs a hotplug script run. I've put the script in /etc/hotplug/usb/module-name, but it doesn't get called. After doign an echo /sbin/hotplug /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug the hotplug system started to work. How is that supposed to happen? /etc/init.d/hotplug doesn't do it. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Here I am in the at POSTERIOR OLFACTORY LOBULE visi.combut I don't see CARL SAGAN anywhere!! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to get hotplug goign?
Grant Edwards wrote: And the most recent version of sys-apps/hotplug is over three years old? I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly udev is supposed to replace cold/hotplug. Perhaps you should try to find a way to do what you are doing using udev? -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: How to get hotplug goign?
On 2007-09-24, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: And the most recent version of sys-apps/hotplug is over three years old? I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly udev is supposed to replace cold/hotplug. Perhaps you should try to find a way to do what you are doing using udev? I probably should. Using hotplug is making the device driver for the USB dongle hang. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! FOOLED you! Absorb at EGO SHATTERING impulse visi.comrays, polyester poltroon!! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
As I have previously posted about, my host sent me an email a few days ago stating that support tickets for 5,000-6,000 of their clients had been broken into. I checked my records and found that my root password had previously been submitted in a support ticket. I then decided I needed to reinstall my system. I requested that my host allow me access to a second machine for 2-5 days while I switch over to a clean system, after that I would turn the old system over to them and continue with the new system. My request was denied! I'm blown away by this. Was I asking too much? - Grant Would it be unreasonable to tell us who this host is? I want to make sure I don't host any sites on their system; if they can't secure their work tickets, what makes anybody think they can secure anything else? I'm taking a guess it's these guys: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/19/layered_technologies_breach_disclosure/ - Noven Bingo. They sent me another message with an offer that could be what I asked for. It was vague. So much for that. I understand sir. Unfortunately I'm about out of rope in this situation. The only thing I can really provide to you at this point, is the oppertunity to flag this for the management team, and allow them to speak with you directly. I'll move forward and make sure this gets marked correctly for them. Please understand that as they work M-F 9 AM - 5 PM CST, it could be some time before you are able to get a response from them. Your patience and cooperation is greatly appreciated. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing CHOST
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:17:53 +0200 Florian Philipp wrote: Neil Bothwick schrieb: ...[snip]... Unpacking a stage 3 tarball on top of a working system is a good way of converting it to a non-working system. It will also overwrite many of your settings in /etc. If you are going to use a stage 3 tarball as a basis, a clean stage 3 install is by far the safest option, and usually turns out to be the quickest too. Backup /etc and your world file first, use your old make.conf as a starting point and recreate your old environment on the new hardware with emerge -1av $(cat oldworld) Just a thought: Is it possible to compile a 64bit kernel and use him on the current system? That way you could set up your new native 64bit system in a chroot before overwriting the old one and thus minimize downtime to less than 15 minutes. Florian, That would be ideal! It's exactly what I'd do -- if it's doable. Hopefully the experts will point to a HOWTO :- David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] help with the dreaded mount: RPC: Program not registered
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, John Blinka wrote: I think it happens when booting, but I see this message in the system log: Sep 23 21:12:01 tobey rc-scripts: ERROR: cannot start nfs as rpc.statdcould not start John, I've hesitated to join this thread because I haven't felt I've been able to throw any light on your problem - just hoped that you'd get some resolution that I could then apply to my own situation which is very similar to yours ... but as it's not looking so rosy maybe my experience may spark some other avenue to explore? I've been running an amd64 nfs mount successfully for some months on this machine until around about mid August (difficult to tell exactly when as I had temporary wireless network about then because of building alterations) but from that point on have had major problems trying to mount the nfs directory. No point in going though all the error codes etc. again as they are pretty similar to yours - main one is always mount: RPC: Timed out, but I have variations. Like you I _never_ get it to mount from boot as it always did in earlier days: now, with a bit of patience, and re-running nfs, nfsmount - and sometimes portmap scripts, I can sometimes get it to mount. Sometimes I can get it to mount using the manual mount command. Other times it just plain refuses to do anything until I go away for an hour or so - then come back and take it by surprise with nfsmount or manual mount and wham, bam we're away laughing! Or sort of. I've googled extensively and followed up avenue after avenue, wiki after wiki: I've recompiled nfs-utils, portmap, baselayout. I've altered hosts.allow and hosts.deny, etc., etc., and then tried all Emil's suggestions as on this thread. But I still get nowhere, and I think I've now spent so much time on it that I really can't see the wood for the trees! It's obviously something so simple, but I just can't see it. Feel a bit of a prat, but this morning was the last straw when I thought I'd better join your thread: no success until I left it and went away for an hour - then came back and input mount -t nfs 192.168.0.216:/usr/portage /mnt/nfs_portage/ and away we went. All ok, just in time for a cronjob emerge --sync. But not very satisfactory. It's almost as though the original mount called by the scripts and earlier efforts takes some time to die, and a fresh instance does the trick! But I don't know enough about the process to know if that's so - I just seem to recall someone somewhere in my endless searches saying something along those lines ... Strange that it's just the two of us to be afflicted by this at about the same time? AAMOI have you tried taking your machine by surprise? Bogo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing CHOST
On Sep 24, 2007, at 5:03 PM, David Relson wrote: Just a thought: Is it possible to compile a 64bit kernel and use him on the current system? That way you could set up your new native 64bit system in a chroot before overwriting the old one and thus minimize downtime to less than 15 minutes. Florian, That would be ideal! It's exactly what I'd do -- if it's doable. Hopefully the experts will point to a HOWTO :- This sounds like a way to infinite pain. (This is at first glance and off the top of my head without looking into it, of course...) While it may be possible to cross-compile a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit system, IIRC unless you have the right runtime libraries compiled for 64-bit you may have massive trouble getting the system to even come up. But I'm not an expert on new and cool ways to try things, so your mileage may vary. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
On Sep 24, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Grant wrote: So much for that. I understand sir. Unfortunately I'm about out of rope in this situation. The only thing I can really provide to you at this point, is the oppertunity to flag this for the management team, and allow them to speak with you directly. I'll move forward and make sure this gets marked correctly for them. Please understand that as they work M-F 9 AM - 5 PM CST, it could be some time before you are able to get a response from them. Your patience and cooperation is greatly appreciated. Customer service in the Internet age :( I would find a new host, but that's just me. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
So much for that. I understand sir. Unfortunately I'm about out of rope in this situation. The only thing I can really provide to you at this point, is the oppertunity to flag this for the management team, and allow them to speak with you directly. I'll move forward and make sure this gets marked correctly for them. Please understand that as they work M-F 9 AM - 5 PM CST, it could be some time before you are able to get a response from them. Your patience and cooperation is greatly appreciated. Customer service in the Internet age :( I would find a new host, but that's just me. Any recommendations? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?
Hi group, Just noticed this in dmesg: snip hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success snip So far I've changed the cable and turned on IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE in the kernel. No other problems w/ the drive. Drive is Maxtor 120G IDE. Very low hours on it. Can I just let this slide? Maxim Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum
Forgot to add: this all started when I made hda into hdb and vice versa by changing the jumpers on the two IDE drives in this particular PC and telling the BIOS to boot from the 2nd drive. And updating grub and fstab, of course. mw Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list