Re: [gentoo-user] OOo 2.4 and Java

2008-03-28 Thread Pongracz Istvan

2008. 03. 28, péntek keltezéssel 05.47-kor Andrew Gaydenko ezt írta:
> Hi!
> 
> Have installed OOo 2.4 on ~amd64/x86_64 with these flags:
> 
> cups dbus eds firefox java kde ldap pam -binfilter -debug ...
> 
> At starting any OOo programm konsole shows:
> 
> javaldx failed!
> 
> Tool-Options-Java dialog finds all three installed JREs, but after 
> selecting radio control for any of them and clicking OK nothing 
> changes. Next time the dialog finds JREs again (nothing checked at 
> dialog opening).
> 
> Help!

I have a similar problem on my ~x86.
OOo 2.3.x and any kind of java (blackdown, sun whatever version). Both
with the binary OOo and compiled version.

Except, the Tool-Options-Java never find my installed JREs, even I try
to give the path exactly. It never recognize the java environment. I
have no idea, why.
I checked system-vm, user-vm, I installed lot of JREs, SDKs, does not
working.

It is really weird and annoying. I cannot find The Ultimate Solution to
this kind of problem using google.

So, I cannot help, but at least, you are not alone :)

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[gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?

2008-03-28 Thread Dale

Hi,

I had a problem the other day where I needed to shutdown, like in a real 
hurry.  My power supply was packed up and checking out without paying 
the bill.  I was in KDE and just selected logout then shutdown from the 
menu.  Is there a faster way to shutdown so that at least the file 
system is clean?  Some fancy keystroke pattern or a short command 
maybe?  I run foldingathome and that pesky "waiting 17 seconds" thing 
was torture.  I need it to bypass that little "feature" as well. 

I hope I never run into this again but just in case I would like a 
pointer.  It did make it to the point where it said it was unmounting 
file systems but one partition must have been mounted since it was well, 
pissed, about not being unmounted cleanly.  ;-)  Thank goodness for 
reiserfs coming to the rescue.  After putting in a new P/S all is well 
again. 


Thanks.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?

2008-03-28 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/3/28, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> I had a problem the other day where I needed to shutdown, like in a real
> hurry.  My power supply was packed up and checking out without paying
> the bill.  I was in KDE and just selected logout then shutdown from the
> menu.  Is there a faster way to shutdown so that at least the file
> system is clean?  Some fancy keystroke pattern or a short command
> maybe?  I run foldingathome and that pesky "waiting 17 seconds" thing
> was torture.  I need it to bypass that little "feature" as well.
>
> I hope I never run into this again but just in case I would like a
> pointer.  It did make it to the point where it said it was unmounting
> file systems but one partition must have been mounted since it was well,
> pissed, about not being unmounted cleanly.  ;-)  Thank goodness for
> reiserfs coming to the rescue.  After putting in a new P/S all is well
> again.

You can try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

Regards,

Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?

2008-03-28 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb ext Dale:

> Is there a faster way to shutdown so that at least the file
> system is clean?

Read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt.

HTH...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?

2008-03-28 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb ext Daniel Pielmeier:

> You can try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

Wow, good to know that Wikipedia has it, just in case I don't have kernel 
sources installed on my Gentoo systems ;-)

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?

2008-03-28 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/3/28, Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb ext Daniel Pielmeier:
>
> > You can try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
>
> Wow, good to know that Wikipedia has it, just in case I don't have kernel
> sources installed on my Gentoo systems ;-)
>

Yeah, i think it is a bit more readable than the kernel documentation. ;-)

By the way the safest and recommended command, although a bit longish
should be ALT+SysRq(or print)+S(ync)+U(mount)+B(Reboot).

Regards,

Daniel


Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?

2008-03-28 Thread Dale

Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

2008/3/28, Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb ext Daniel Pielmeier:



You can try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
  

Wow, good to know that Wikipedia has it, just in case I don't have kernel
sources installed on my Gentoo systems ;-)




Yeah, i think it is a bit more readable than the kernel documentation. ;-)

By the way the safest and recommended command, although a bit longish
should be ALT+SysRq(or print)+S(ync)+U(mount)+B(Reboot).

Regards,

Daniel
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Since I wanted to shutdown instead of reboot, it would be ALT + SysRq + 
S + U + O then correct?  I have never done this before so what if any 
are the gotcha's with this?  Anybody ever do it and can tell me how long 
a shutdown takes?  Is it like seconds or what?  Also, will this work if 
I am logged into KDE and in the GUI? 


Thanks.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?

2008-03-28 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb ext Dale:
> I have never done this before so what if any
> are the gotcha's with this?

None.

> Anybody ever do it and can tell me how long 
> a shutdown takes?

As long as you need to strike the keys.

> Also, will this work if 
> I am logged into KDE and in the GUI?

Yes.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?

2008-03-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:51:20 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

> By the way the safest and recommended command, although a bit longish
> should be ALT+SysRq(or print)+S(ync)+U(mount)+B(Reboot).

Alt-SysRq E I S U B is better as it kills running processes first. If you
have time, pause between the keystrokes to give them time to work.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot Gentoo to clean windows

2008-03-28 Thread Stroller


On 26 Mar 2008, at 15:19, Mikie wrote:

Does anyone know of a product (hopefully free) that can clean a  
Windows

PC while booted on Gentoo?

I guess I need a good malware tool that runs on Linux and cleans NTFS
volumes.


Hi there,

Some of the replies to your message are now a little off-topic, so  
here's some advice about actually cleaning Windows (rather than  
removing it, or running Linux). I intended to reply to this a couple  
of days ago, so hope my advice isn't too late.


I deal with h0sed Windows installations for my customers all the  
time. I regularly boot a Knoppix CD and copy the whole C: drive to a  
portable disk so that I have a complete backup. I find it reassuring  
to use Linux for this purpose because I feel confident that cp or  
rsync will copy _every file on the drive_ without just silently  
ignoring those marked with the hidden flag, or bitching about  
permissions.


But if your system is so hosed you can't fix it from within Windows  
then it's probably past simple repair. It can be very slow to work on  
a machine with a lot of crap on it, and there comes a point at which  
I would never consider working on the machine at the customer's  
house, simply because it would take so long. If I take the machine  
home with me I can allow uninstall programs and antivirus to run  
(unsupervised & in the corner of my study) for hours without having  
to worry about it.


Providing the system is bootable, remove all the crap you can see  
from "Add & Remove Programs" (shortcut: Windows-R, type  
"appwiz.cpl"). Some of the browser-hijacking malware does tout itself  
as "legitimate" "opt-in" marketing, and removing it correctly can  
actually be cleaner than forcibly removing it - seems to me like  
it'll insert itself in the TCP/IP stack (winsock?) or the LSP layers  
(??) and the unistalller will actually correct things when it's removed.


Remove anything Norton / Symantec or McAfee first - that shit's not  
doing any good, and just slows things down. I usually uninstall each  
Norton / Symantec component through add & remove programs - the  
manufacturer does have on their website a tool to remove all their  
software from your machine, but they recommend this only as a last  
resort (I guess you could run it after uninstalling everything  
manually, to get rid of the bits that the program uninstallers often  
miss, but I like to follow their advice in the first instance).


If the PC is still slow then check disk-space, pagefile settings  
("allow the system to manage pagefile size for me", click "set") and  
fragmentation (shortcut: Windows-R, type "dfrg,msc"). Install AVG  
anti-virus & allow a complete run through, reboot & then check for  
nasties in hi-jack this. Learning what to remove & what to leave when  
using hi-jack this is a bit of an art-form, and is the most  
significant skill necessary for cleaning virus- or malware-infected PCs.


The only time I use Linux to clean Windows is for files & programs  
running at start up that I can't remove in hijack this. Windows  
occasionally locks files that are in use and other nasties can be  
quite persistent at reinstalling themselves. I simply note the full  
path of the files (or use Hijack This' "save logfile" facility) &  
delete them (or their whole parent directory, if appropriate) when  
I've booted to Knoppix.


If the machine's not bootable then repair with a Windows installation  
CD - sometimes manufacturers' partitioning schemes may make this  
impossible, but don't be tempted to use an Advent or Packard-Hell   
"system restore" CD or partition. This may get you to the point where  
you have to start following the procedure outlined in my previous 4  
paragraphs.


Be aware that sometimes Windows isn't cleanly fixable. Although I try  
to avoid it until I've exhausted avenues for a clean repair,  
sometimes the best thing to do is simply to back-up & reinstall.


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[gentoo-user] gnome 2.22

2008-03-28 Thread Stéphane ANCELOT
I have tried to find it , but by the way how to enable gnome 2.22 in
gentoo ??
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Re: [gentoo-user] touchpad can't scroll

2008-03-28 Thread Mick
On Friday 28 March 2008, Chuanwen Wu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >  You should change your server-layout to something like
> >
> >  Section "ServerLayout"
> > Identifier "Layout0"
> > Screen "Screen1"
> > InputDevice"Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
> > InputDevice"Touchpad" "CorePointer"
> > Option  "AIGLX" "true
> >  EndSection
>
> I have changed it, but after I restart X, I found it doesn't work, yet.

This is what I have in mine under ServerLayout:
===
 InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
 InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
 InputDevice"Mouse1" "AlwaysCore"
===

And this is what I have under InputDevice:
===
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "synaptics"
Option  "Protocol" "SynPS/2"
Option  "InputFashion" "Mouse"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Name" "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
Option  "SHMConfig" "on"
Option  "Vendor" "0002"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "True"
Option  "Buttons"   "3"
EndSection

Section "Input Device"
Identifier  "Mouse1"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option  "InputFashion" "Mouse"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Name" "GenPS/2 Genius Mouse"
Option  "Vendor" "0002"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "False"
Option  "Buttons"   "9"
EndSection
===

So, you may want to replace your "/dev/input/mouse1" for mice and see if that 
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage/firewall

2008-03-28 Thread Mick
On Thursday 27 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:33:53 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > > I'd say, try http.
> >
> > Jeez. You didn't read the original posting, did you? It's FTP, period.
>
> It's FTP, which is blocked by the firewall, so use only HTTP mirrors
> in /etc/make.conf. There is no requirement to use FTP for downloads. If
> rsync is also blocked, use emerge-webrsync to update the portage tree
> over HTTP.

 export ftp_proxy=XXX.XX.XXX.XX:80 && emerge -uaDv world, should do what 
you're after.  You can also try export http_proxy of course.  It assumes that 
you know the LAN IP address of your web gateway/firewall at work - i.e. that 
your work's MSWindows configuration allows plain users to view the MSIE 
Internet Settings, or your sysadmin will let you know what the address is.  If 
not, boot a LiveCD on a works computer, mount its MSWindows C:\ drive and 
search for "proxy".  It should lurk somewhere in the registry settings.  
BartsPE CD will also help you find that, as it can search natively the 
registry.

BTW, if this is anything like my work, then only outbound connections to port 
80 are allowed and rsync will not work.  Follow the webrsync advice above.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.22

2008-03-28 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/3/28, Stéphane ANCELOT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have tried to find it , but by the way how to enable gnome 2.22 in
> gentoo ??

Gnome 2.22 is about to be added to the portage tree, be patient! Most
components are already there! The meta ebuilds for gnome and
gnome-light are still missing!

Regards,

Daniel


Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.22

2008-03-28 Thread Wael Nasreddine
This One Time, at Band Camp, St?phane ANCELOT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, On Fri, 
Mar 28, 2008 at 10:12:38AM +0100:
> I have tried to find it , but by the way how to enable gnome 2.22 in
> gentoo ??
You should unmask the Gnome2.22 packages, they are unmasked in
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask, just put the below section in
/etc/portage/package.unmask

-CUT
#
 GNOME 2.22 #
#

>=app-crypt/seahorse-2.22
>=gnome-base/libgtop-2.22
>=x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.14
>=gnome-base/libbonobo-2.22
>=x11-libs/libwnck-2.22
>=x11-themes/gnome-backgrounds-2.22
>=gnome-base/gail-1.22
>=app-text/rarian-0.8
>=gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.22
>=dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.2.0
>=gnome-base/gconf-2.22
>=x11-wm/metacity-2.22
>=gnome-extra/gucharmap-2.22
>=gnome-extra/gcalctool-5.22
>=x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.22
>=x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.22
>=gnome-extra/zenity-2.22
>=gnome-extra/at-spi-1.21
>=gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.22
>=gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.22
>=x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.22
>=gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.22
>=gnome-base/libgnome-2.22
dev-libs/libgweather
>=app-editors/gedit-2.22
>=gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.22
>=gnome-base/libgnomekbd-2.21
>=gnome-extra/gconf-editor-2.22
>=media-sound/sound-juicer-2.22
>=gnome-extra/yelp-2.22
>=app-arch/file-roller-2.22
>=dev-python/gnome-python-2.22
>=gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.18
>=www-client/epiphany-2.22
>=www-client/epiphany-extensions-2.22
>=media-gfx/eog-2.22
>=app-accessibility/orca-2.22
>=gnome-base/librsvg-2.22
>=gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor-2.22
>=gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.22
>=gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-2.22
>=net-misc/vino-2.22
>=app-text/evince-2.22
>=gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.22
>=gnome-extra/bug-buddy-2.22
>=gnome-extra/evolution-webcal-2.21
>=dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.22
>=gnome-extra/gnome-games-2.22
>=gnome-extra/deskbar-applet-2.22
>=net-analyzer/gnome-nettool-2.22
>=gnome-extra/fast-user-switch-applet-2.22
>=app-admin/sabayon-2.21
>=gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.22
>=gnome-base/gnome-volume-manager-2.22
>=mail-client/evolution-2.22
>=gnome-extra/evolution-exchange-2.22
>=gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-2.22
>=gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-2.22
dev-libs/totem-pl-parser
>=media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r2
>=media-sound/rhythmbox-0.11.4
>=media-video/totem-2.22
gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon
>=gnome-base/control-center-2.22
>=gnome-base/gnome-session-2.22
>=gnome-base/eel-2.22
gnome-base/gvfs
>=gnome-base/nautilus-2.22
>=gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.22
>=gnome-extra/nautilus-open-terminal-0.9
>=gnome-base/gdm-2.20.4
>=gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.22
>=gnome-base/gnome-light-2.22
>=gnome-base/gnome-2.22

# Libsoup slot 2.4
>=net-libs/libsoup-2.4.0

#
 GNOME 2.22 #
#
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Re: [gentoo-user] Unplugging USB wireless adapter

2008-03-28 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:43:58PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> I haven't kept up with this but isn't there a hotplug/coldplug monitor that 
> detects things like this?  I'm thinking hotplug is the correct one since 
> the machine is powered up.

I think it is no longer needed and udev should take care of all this. At
last, I do not have hotplug nor coldplug and inserting/removing all usb
devices, laptop modules, PCMCIAs works on runtime.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?

2008-03-28 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 09:11:53AM +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > Anybody ever do it and can tell me how long 
> > a shutdown takes?
> 
> As long as you need to strike the keys.

Not really true. I have set my dirty cache timeout to 10 minutes, so it
can hold some few hundred megabytes of unsynced data (happens rarely),
so it can take like 10 seconds to dump them to disk.

But with clean cache, it is as fast as hitting a hard switch.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?

2008-03-28 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:51:20 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

  

By the way the safest and recommended command, although a bit longish
should be ALT+SysRq(or print)+S(ync)+U(mount)+B(Reboot).



Alt-SysRq E I S U B is better as it kills running processes first. If you
have time, pause between the keystrokes to give them time to work.


  



Cl.  I'll try to grow a pair and test this thing sometime.  This 
sounds like it would be pretty fast.


Thanks.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo minimal system

2008-03-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 16:19:58 Alex Schuster wrote:

> Does it also have the right IDE drivers? This /dev/sda drive is SATA I
> assume, is this configured correctly in the kernel, and is the SCSI stuff
> also compiled directly into the kerne?

On my laptop I sometimes have to switch AHCI on or off in the BIOS as well. 
For example, the Gentoo installation boot disk won't boot unless I switch 
AHCI off first.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unplugging USB wireless adapter

2008-03-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:09:08 +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:

> I think it is no longer needed and udev should take care of all this. At
> last, I do not have hotplug nor coldplug and inserting/removing all usb
> devices, laptop modules, PCMCIAs works on runtime.

That's fine with most devices, but causes a problem with network
adaptors. No hotplug system can anticipate your removing the device and
unmount NFS shares before you do it, so the only safe way to remove a USB
NIC is to bring down the interface first.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.22

2008-03-28 Thread Christophe Lermytte



On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Wael Nasreddine wrote:


This One Time, at Band Camp, St?phane ANCELOT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, On Fri, 
Mar 28, 2008 at 10:12:38AM +0100:

I have tried to find it , but by the way how to enable gnome 2.22 in
gentoo ??

You should unmask the Gnome2.22 packages, they are unmasked in
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask, just put the below section in
/etc/portage/package.unmask


Note that you can also make package.unmask a directory, containing several 
different files (e.g. one for every piece of software you need to unmask 
packages for, like gnome-2.22 or something), for ease of maintenance.


Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] OOo 2.4 and Java

2008-03-28 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
=== On Friday 28 March 2008, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: ===
> Hi!
>
> Have installed OOo 2.4 on ~amd64/x86_64 with these flags:
>
> cups dbus eds firefox java kde ldap pam -binfilter -debug ...
>
> At starting any OOo programm konsole shows:
>
> javaldx failed!
>
> Tool-Options-Java dialog finds all three installed JREs, but after
> selecting radio control for any of them and clicking OK nothing
> changes. Next time the dialog finds JREs again (nothing checked at
> dialog opening).
>
> Help!

Have file the issue:

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87549

Probably somebody has non-Gentoo Linux system also. Does the issue take 
place on other distributions or is it Gentoo-specific?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Unplugging USB wireless adapter

2008-03-28 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:42:18AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:09:08 +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:
> 
> > I think it is no longer needed and udev should take care of all this. At
> > last, I do not have hotplug nor coldplug and inserting/removing all usb
> > devices, laptop modules, PCMCIAs works on runtime.
> 
> That's fine with most devices, but causes a problem with network
> adaptors. No hotplug system can anticipate your removing the device and
> unmount NFS shares before you do it, so the only safe way to remove a USB
> NIC is to bring down the interface first.

Yes, sure. It can't unmount it and terminate the connections. However,
there is no reason why the device shouldn't be detected again. And, if
hotplug can do it, why couldn't udev?

I was just saying hotplug is outdated and replaced by udev.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows

2008-03-28 Thread Mick
On 28/03/2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Florian Philipp wrote:
>  
>
> >> FWIW, AntiVir, Bitdefender, and F-Prot run quite well on Linux, and each
>  >> has BOTH Linux and Windows Trojan and virus signatures. So you can
>  >> install these and scan your windows box, and then scan your Linux
>  >> box/downloads for malware (e.g. openoffice files, media files, etc.).
>  >>
>  >> Add Dazuko, and you can get real-time scanning of your Linux box while
>  >> downloading/compiling software.
>  >
>  > This is getting OT but I still want to ask:
>  > Is it really necessary to run an anti-virus on linux? I just want to
>  > hear some opinions on that topic because I thought security fixes for
>  > your software are the way to go for fighting virae on linux.
>
>
> Anti-Virus on Linux.  No.
>  (presuming that you don't run as root, and have lots of unprivileged
>  users for individual applications.)
>
>  Anti-Malware on Linux.  Yes.
>  (Malware gets to the box via spoofed or hacked software distribution or
>  creation sites; bad links or poisoned DNS caches; or via (e.g.) browser
>  memory attacks - at plugins or exploits)
>
>  The oldtimers will tell you that safe hex and perhaps integrity
>  monitoring (e.g. Samhain or tripwire) are all that's needed. But desktop
>  Linux with Browsing, IM, etc. is changing that, IMHO.
>
>  The three packages above have Linux Trojan and Rootkit signatures, as
>  well as Windows malware sigs. Easy enough to run an occasional scan of
>  the Linux box (or Windows partition); and to scan each Linux download
>  before reading, compiling, or passing on.
>
>  (Dazuko additionally allows realtime scans of compilation read/writes).
>
>  IMHO, Linux and MAC are the next frontier for malware, and -SADLY-
>  AntiMalware signature and heuristic techniques are one thing we can
>  learn about from Windows :-(

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20080327/tc_pcworld/143901

What worries me is the reference to Safari . . . (khtml rendering engine?)

What is an appropriate anti-malware for Linux, other than safe-hex?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Unplugging USB wireless adapter

2008-03-28 Thread Grant
>  > I think it is no longer needed and udev should take care of all this. At
>  > last, I do not have hotplug nor coldplug and inserting/removing all usb
>  > devices, laptop modules, PCMCIAs works on runtime.
>
>  That's fine with most devices, but causes a problem with network
>  adaptors. No hotplug system can anticipate your removing the device and
>  unmount NFS shares before you do it, so the only safe way to remove a USB
>  NIC is to bring down the interface first.

Here's the problem.  I have an Edimax and a Linksys USB adapter.  They
both use the rt73usb driver in 2.6.24.  I can stop the interface and
successfully switch from Edimax to Linksys, but trying to go from
Linksys to Edimax says the hardware is not present when trying to
start the interface again.  Rebooting fixes it.  Can anyone make sense
of that?

- Grant
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[gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows

2008-03-28 Thread 7v5w7go9ub0o

Mick wrote:

On 28/03/2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Anti-Virus on Linux.  No.
 (presuming that you don't run as root, and have lots of unprivileged
 users for individual applications.)

 Anti-Malware on Linux.  Yes.
 (Malware gets to the box via spoofed or hacked software distribution or
 creation sites; bad links or poisoned DNS caches; or via (e.g.) browser
 memory attacks - at plugins or exploits)

 The oldtimers will tell you that safe hex and perhaps integrity
 monitoring (e.g. Samhain or tripwire) are all that's needed. But desktop
 Linux with Browsing, IM, etc. is changing that, IMHO.

 The three packages above have Linux Trojan and Rootkit signatures, as
 well as Windows malware sigs. Easy enough to run an occasional scan of
 the Linux box (or Windows partition); and to scan each Linux download
 before reading, compiling, or passing on.

 (Dazuko additionally allows realtime scans of compilation read/writes).

 IMHO, Linux and MAC are the next frontier for malware, and -SADLY-
 AntiMalware signature and heuristic techniques are one thing we can
 learn about from Windows :-(


http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20080327/tc_pcworld/143901

What worries me is the reference to Safari . . . (khtml rendering engine?)

What is an appropriate anti-malware for Linux, other than safe-hex?


As a "monitor" (a.k.a. real-time access), I've had good experience with
AntiVir and Dazuko. AntiVir has lots of Linux signatures and heuristics,
and Dazuko/Antivir has both caught bugs in downloads, and blocked
"suspicious scripts" in my browser cache when visiting bad sites.

As a "scanner", I tend to scan my box from a second "maintenance OS" on
another partition hoping to avoid stealthing by any RootKits on the
primary partition. Scanning includes Samhain, equery md5 checks, the
three Anti-Malware products mentioned earlier, Rootkithunter, and
Checkrootkit. I'll run this occasionally overnight.

Interesting that this year's exploit was a "safe" browser Safari, on a
"safe" 'nix/BSD OS MAC. And last year's exploit winner, QuickTime,
can also appear on multiple OS's. Both of these were likely online
attacks; via streaming in the case of quicktime.

Seems to me that WAN-connected applications should be sequestered from
the rest of the system in the same way that a server sequesters
WAN-connected processes - i.e. put them each in their own chroot jail.
In addition to individual chroot jails, I run my mail client and browser
in RamDisk - so that any changes to them (other than bookmarks and mail)
are discarded at shutdown

Using Hardened Sources (GRSecurity) with both memory protection and
access control, one gets a particularly resilient, hardened chroot jail
(i.e. OpenBSD theory :-) ) and a kernel that restricts where the browser
user/application can go, and what it can do.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.22

2008-03-28 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Stéphane ANCELOT:
> I have tried to find it , but by the way how to enable gnome 2.22 in
> gentoo ??

http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/remi/2008/03/28/the_road_to_gnome_2_22_part_2

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[gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows

2008-03-28 Thread 7v5w7go9ub0o

Stroller wrote:



Be aware that sometimes Windows isn't cleanly fixable. Although I try to 
avoid it until I've exhausted avenues for a clean repair, sometimes the 
best thing to do is simply to back-up & reinstall.




Think this is a great write up.

The last paragraph seems most important - given today's
professionally-authored compromises, the best thing to do may be presume
that you've been rooted with redundancy, and simply be prepared to 
quickly rebuild the box from scratch.


Especially if you use the computer for business or other sensitive matters.

So arguably, one should use the second OS (Linux or Windows) as a 
diagnostic tool to determine if it's compromised or not, and except for 
something simple (e.g. an infection vector caught before activation by 
an AntiTrojan scanner in a browser cache, mail letter, etc.), one should 
simply rebuild the box.


So to the above, I'd add a "have a rebuild strategy"  i.e. copies of 
data (not executables), addresses, passwords, etc. that can be quickly 
returned to a rebuilt OS. Windows benefits greatly from rebuilding - a 
rebuilt box will seem quicker and faster than ever before, and won't 
have lingering "relics" from earlier maintenance levels.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-28 Thread Florian Philipp

On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 20:42 -0400, Richard Marzan wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 19:52 -0700, Grant wrote:
> > > >  > >  > I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 
> > > > 150
> > >  >  > >  > feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of 
> > > these:
> > >  >  > >  >
> > >  >  > >  > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
> > >  >  > >  >
> > >  >  > >  > for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble 
> > > making it
> > >  >  > >  > work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a 
> > > short
> > >  >  > >  > time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this 
> > > process,
> > >  >  > >  > it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but 
> > > when it
> > >  >  > >  > goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
> > >  >  > >  >
> > >  >  > >  > Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I 
> > > do
> > >  >  > >  > that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the 
> > > client.
> > >  >  > >  >
> > >  >  > >  > - Grant
> > >  >  > >
> > >  >  > >  Grant,
> > >  >  > >
> > >  >  > >  Yes, lowering the rate to a "slower" speed will help greatly.  
> > > The lower
> > >  >  > > rates use less compression and modulation... less complex wave 
> > > forms
> > >  >  > > better connects over long hauls.
> > >  >  > >
> > >  >  > >  The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and 
> > > whole
> > >  >  > >  heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck 
> > > with these
> > >  >  > >  models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
> > >  >  > >  http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain 
> > > antennas you
> > >  >  > >  have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty 
> > > high on the
> > >  >  > >  speed scale doing it too.
> > >  >  >
> > >  >  > I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter 
> > > on
> > >  >  > the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be 
> > > done
> > >  >  > on the Gentoo AP or the client?
> > >  >  >
> > >  >  > - Grant
> > >  >
> > >  >  I use wireless-tools from portage. In it is iwconfig. A simple man 
> > > iwconfig
> > >  >  will show you what you need. Other thing you could do is configure the
> > >  >  Wireless AP for a fixed rate... works for me.
> > >
> > >  I found this:
> > >
> > >  rate_wlan0=( "5.5M" )
> > >
> > >  which isn't documented in net.wireless, but it doesn't seem to have
> > >  any affect.  I've tried it on the router and the client which uses
> > >  wpa_supplicant.  I still see the rate on the client fluctuate all the
> > >  way up to 54 Mb/s in the output from iwconfig.  The router's rate is
> > >  always reported as 0 kb/s.
> > >
> > >  - Grant
> > 
> > It appears 'iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M' works (at least as far as the
> > output from iwconfig is concerned) but how can I set /etc/conf.d/net
> > to always use this rate?
> > 
> > - Grant
> 
> The best way I found to do this is to just write your own script and run
> it at the default runlevel. write a script called wireless-up save it in
> your /root directory. Then in /etc/conf.d/local.start add the script
> name to the list: /root/wireless-up. Make sure the script is executable
> with chmod 666 /root/wireless-up. Here is what mine looks like. I laugh
> when I read this thing that I call a script. I'll be upgrading this in
> the future but for now maybe someone has a better idea and/or script.
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> DATE=`date +%m_%d_%Y`
> ifconfig wlan0 up || "echo wlan up failed"
> iwconfig wlan0 essid ACCESSPOINTNAME || "echo setting essid failed"
> iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed || echo "setting mode to managed failed"
> iwconfig wlan0 key restricted YOURKEYHERE || echo "key failed
> verification"
> dhclient wlan0 || echo "wlan0 failed to receive dhcp request response"
> # if [ $DATE -ne `date +%m_%d_%Y -r /tmp/.wireless.*
> rm /tmp/.wireless.* 
> iwconfig >> /tmp/.wireless.$DATE
> exit 0
> 
> 
> 

For custom scrips, you can add a preup, failup or postup-function
to /etc/conf.d/net, there should be examples in the file.

Something like

pastup() {
  if [[ ${IFACE} = "wlan0" ]]; then
  iwconfig [...]
  fi
  return 0
}

should work.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-28 Thread Florian Philipp

On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 19:02 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:

> > 
> 
> For custom scrips, you can add a preup, failup or postup-function
> to /etc/conf.d/net, there should be examples in the file.
> 
> Something like
> 
> pastup() {
>   if [[ ${IFACE} = "wlan0" ]]; then
>   iwconfig [...]
>   fi
>   return 0
> }
> 
> should work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows

2008-03-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 28 March 2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote:
> IMHO, Linux and MAC are the next frontier for malware, and -SADLY-
> AntiMalware signature and heuristic techniques are one thing we can
> learn about from Windows :-(

True, but with one *huge* difference:

If something like ActiveX were to be unleashed on Linux, it will be 
fixed very quickly even if that requires an ABI change. We tend not to 
pull the "backwards compatibility" card, so obvious holes from that 
don't hang around for long

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[gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows

2008-03-28 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Friday 28 March 2008, Stroller wrote:
> I deal with h0sed Windows installations for my customers all the  
> time. I regularly boot a Knoppix CD and copy the whole C: drive to a
>   portable disk so that I have a complete backup. I find it
> reassuring to use Linux for this purpose because I feel confident
> that cp or rsync will copy _every file on the drive_ without just
> silently ignoring those marked with the hidden flag, or bitching
> about permissions.

I prefer to save the entire partition with PING (Partimage Is Not Ghost) 
or equivalent tools to avoid gotchas with charsets.
rsync and cp are excellent, but you have to mount the partition with the 
right options not to loose coherence in file naming.

Everything else in your post is no more no less what I do to rescue all 
those boxes people bring to me :-)
Starting from the uninstall of bloated antivirus!

Great post
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: rhythmbox plays silently

2008-03-28 Thread Hal Martin
Michael Schmarck wrote:
> Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Now, onto your actual problem. It is exceptionally hard to even attempt
>> to provide a solution unless someone else fixed the exact same problem
>> before, as you have not provided any configuration at all and very
>> little useful information.
>> 
>
> What would you have wanted to see? I wrote that sound works. You
> don't need more information.
>
>   
>> Hence your post was as much noise as mine 
>> was. 
>> 
>
> That's why other people, or at least Andrey, was able to help, where as
> you were just a moron.
>   
Not to dig up this unpleasantness again, but there are some things I'd
like to point out for future reference (for all people, including me,
who will post questions with hopes of getting useful answers.)
>   
>> Nonetheless I shall try, so please provide the following: 
>> 
>
> How nice from you, now that the problem has been solved.
>   
Yes, I'm aware that this particular problem has been solved, however I'd
still like to highlight a few things about it.
>   
>> 1. the output of lspci as it relates to audio so we can see what
>> hardware you have
>> 
>
> Why should that matter? After all, sound playback works (in other
> programs).
>   
It doesn't matter, but it's information people care about. It helps us
to do our voodoo stuff and get back to you with an answer (it's quantity
over quality at this point of the answering stage.)
>   
>> 2. What engine does rhythmbox use? gstreamer? If so, do other gstreamer
>> apps work correctly on your box?
>> 
>
> That was the million dollar question.
>   
Great, and now you've noticed that Totem, another GStreamer program,
isn't outputting sound. Therefore, instead of just blowing off the
previous poster, you could actually include that information.
>   
>> 3. With what options did you compile rhythmbox and gstreamer (if
>> applicable)?
>> 
>
> Does not matter.
>   
Actually, it does. Contrary to your belief that programs have the
ability to read your mind and compile with all the flags they need to
function in every foreseeable way, real world applications need flags.
Posting them with your question allows for the quantity of answers to go
down, while the quality of the remaining ones to improve greatly.
Knowing from the beginning that you compiled GStreamer with -oss but not
alsa would've helped greatly.
>   
>> 4. Lastly, this is out on left field, please confirm that rhythmbox is
>> indeed using alsa and not oss
>> 
>
> Question 2 covers that.
>   
No, it doesn't. You just deferred your answer instead of actually
confirming that the rhythmbox *engine* used either ALSA or OSS.
> Michael
>
>   
Not trying to start a flame war between anywhere here, but I'm just
trying to make a point. Posting information, no matter how useless it
may seem to you, helps us help you. For example,

"Hey group! My mplayer doesn't play sound! I get some generic error
about the sound card not being available..."

Now, there are so many answers to that, and you will be frustrated
because people will start touting their favourite software with things
like, "Mplayer sucks, use Songbird" "Songbird sucks, it's bloated, use
Rhythmbox!" "Rhythmbox is buggy, use Amarok!" "Amarok is KDE based, I
hate KDE and everything that's based on it, Gnome rules!"

Then the slightly more useful questions start, "Well, was mplayer
compiled with the alsa USE flag?" "Do other applications play sound?"
Etc, etc.

However, if you'd posted the original error along with your system
information, we forgo all the unpleasant favouritism and instead, get
strained answers that will actually help you solve the problem, keeping
all parties [hopefully] happy!

"Hey group! My mplayer doesn't play sound?

Here's my USE flags:"xft xcomposite threads dbus libfreetype freetype
firefox xulrunner dvdread lfreetype ftgl gtk X glx usb mplayer a52 hwac3
ac3 ldap GPAC gpac x264 mp4 mp3 mad madplay libmp3 ogg flac alsa oss png
jpg jpeg selinux hal ffmpeg encode vorbis chroot opengl mysql tiff gnome
kde 3dnow 3dnowext aac encode gif ftp mp2 v4l v4l2 httpd sdl sdl-image
xvid xv cvidix -rdynamic -zlib"

Here's the output of 'mplayer awesomemusic.mp3'
MPlayer dev-SVN-rUNKNOWN-4.1.2 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (Family: 15, Model:
43, Stepping: 1)
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE SSE2

Playing Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around.mp3.
Audio file file format detected.
Clip info:
 Title: The awesomeness!
 Artist: Awesome band!
 Album: AWESOME!
 Year: 2008
 Comment:
 Track:
 Genre:
==
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 192.0 kbit/13.61% (ratio: 24000->176400)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
=

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot Gentoo to clean windows

2008-03-28 Thread Alan Milnes
On 28/03/2008, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Your note is excellent but I disagree with this bit:-

>
> If the PC is still slow then check disk-space, pagefile settings
> ("allow the system to manage pagefile size for me", click "set")
>

unless as a temporary workaround you should always have the paging file set
as a fixed size to avoid worsening the chronic fragmentation problem on
Windows.

Regards

Alan