[gentoo-user] guest additions for vbox-1.6 gentoo guest on xp host

2008-05-12 Thread de Almeida, Valmor F.

Hello,

Has anyone been able to install successfully the guest additions in a
vbox-1.6 gentoo guest?

I get the following when installing the additions:

  Verifying archive integrity... All good.
  Uncompressing VirtualBox 1.6.0 Guest Additions for Linux installation

  ...
  VirtualBox 1.6.0 Guest Additions installation
  Which: no dkms in
  (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin...)
  Building the VirtualBox Guest Additions kernel module...
  Building the shared folder support kernel module...
  Installing the VirtualBox Guest Additions...

  Could not set up the X Window VBoxClient service.
  To start the VBoxClient service at log-in for a given user, add the
command 98vboxadd-xclient to the file .xinitrc in their home directory.
  Successfully installed the VirtualBox Guest Additions.
  Your must restart

The Auto-Resize Guest Display in the vbox does not work, and seemless
mode is grayed out.

Also the screen size in my   /etc/X11/xorg.conf   does not work as it
should. 

Any inputs appreciated.

Thanks,


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:51:08 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote:

> · Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> >> And last, but not least: Why should backup directories be shared in
> >> the first place?
> > 
> > They shouldn't, and I never stated that they should.
> 
> You stated that there might be such a need. In
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Date: Wed, 7 May
> 2008  16:09:30 +0100 you wrote:
> 
> | Because you need to access it from Windows too?

At no time did I suggest it was a god idea to share a directory for
backups of different systems. I simply pointed out that IF (note the use
of the word IF, which means it doesn't have to apply to you) you need to
use the same filesystem for storing backups from multiple machines, rsync
is not the best choice.

If you are able to use a separate device for each operating system, fine,
but don't assume that you can apply your circumstances to everyone else.
I have already given a real world case where this is not acceptable.

> I then asked, why you think that such a need might exist. That 
> question hasn't been answered by you up to now.

Yes it has, together with an example.


> | But more interesting: Why should they even be able to backup to the
> | same drive (or better: to the same filesystem)?
> 
> That question also hasn't been answered yet.

Same question, same answer.

This is getting tedious, especially for the other subscribers to the
list. Why don't we just accept that different people have different
environments, and restrictions imposed by those environments (which is
what I alluded to at the start) and let it drop, or at least take it to
private mail. If you are looking for a public recantation of my view that
one tool doesn't fit every circumstance, I am sorry I will have to
disappoint you.

> It seems you don't want to answer that question. Why's that?

I have answered it, although you seem to have missed the several
questions, from me and others, as to why one must not share a device
between computers.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-12 Thread Stroller


On 12 May 2008, at 14:07, Michael Schmarck wrote:

... Reasons:

- "DOS Filesystems" (fat, ntfs) don't allow to store all the metadata
you find on Linux.
- "Linux filesystems" (ext*, reiser, ...) don't allow to store all
the metadata you find on Windows.
- Sharing backup space means, that it get's used more often. This
makes the risk larger, that something bad happens.


Apparently you missed my email 2 days ago. I'll cc you, so you don't  
miss this one.


I said:

  You keep saying this like it's obvious, but don't provide any good
  reason for it.

  There's no reason why I shouldn't have a singe external drive
  containing three directories: "My Mac", "Ann's Linux Box", "Bee's
  Windows PC".

  I can only assume that you find it inelegant to store files on a
  filesystem which will not handle their metadata - ownership, group,
  permissions in the case of Linux, or the more sophisticated ACLs
  used by Windows XP Pro & 2003.

  Just because YOU find it inelegant, doesn't mean that anyone else
  cares. A file is a file, and when recovering from backups most of
  us can drag & drop "My Photos" to the new filesystem and then take
  ownership of the files.

I have tried not to get involved in this thread, but with today's  
posts you're really starting to make yourself look, um, eccentric. If  
I were you I'd shut up right now, before you do your reputation any  
more lasting damage.


There are LOTS of ways to do things, and your way is not inherently  
right. I'm not saying your way is wrong, but you seem to be quite  
unjustifiably slinging that allegation at other people.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] MTRR and PAT

2008-05-12 Thread Andrey Falko
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:30 PM, pk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrey Falko wrote:
>>
>> Try 2.6.24, I'm afraid that your video might be too new for 2.6.23.
>
> Well, I think you have misunderstood my question(s). I may have been unclear
> as to what I would like to achieve... My goal is to see if my MTRR settings
> are ok or not; well, even better would be if I could understand the settings
> so that I can make a judgement myself if it's ok or not.
>
> The video (X) works fine as it is (not counting the occasional artifact in
> 3D games).

Ahh I see. I don't know much about MTRR...all I know is that you can
adjust them via grub:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10
. You probably read this already:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Type_Range_Registers

>
>> Here are my comments your config:
>>
>> -In General Setup: Try choosing SLAB allocator.
>
> Well, I tried to live on the "edge" a little, trying it out... ;-)
>
>> -Your Bus Options look good.
>> -I'm 80% sure that you are not supposed to have /dev/agpgart enabled
>> since you are using PCI-ExpressI have a PCI-Express system and I
>> have it disabled. Actually, I don't have anything enabled under
>> "Graphic Support". Since you are using Radeon, I think you might need
>> to enable Direct Rendering Manager, then choose Radeon.
>
> I run fglrx (AMD/Atis binary blob) and the ebuild complains if I don't have
> certain options set. This may have changed but I've used the same config for
> a while now (since around 2.6.13-14) on older systems (with AGP). I'm
> planning to migrate to radeonhd (or maybe the r300) driver when it has 3D
> support and has stabilised somewhat.
>
Yeh, I have Nvidia cards, so I guess ATI is different.
> I think I've found some more info on what I'm after:
> http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_739_7044,00.html
> (the system programming manual).
>
> Thanks for your time, Andrey!
Your welcome :).
>
> Best regards
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] MTRR and PAT

2008-05-12 Thread pk

Andrey Falko wrote:

Try 2.6.24, I'm afraid that your video might be too new for 2.6.23.


Well, I think you have misunderstood my question(s). I may have been 
unclear as to what I would like to achieve... My goal is to see if my 
MTRR settings are ok or not; well, even better would be if I could 
understand the settings so that I can make a judgement myself if it's ok 
or not.


The video (X) works fine as it is (not counting the occasional artifact 
in 3D games).



Here are my comments your config:

-In General Setup: Try choosing SLAB allocator.


Well, I tried to live on the "edge" a little, trying it out... ;-)


-Your Bus Options look good.
-I'm 80% sure that you are not supposed to have /dev/agpgart enabled
since you are using PCI-ExpressI have a PCI-Express system and I
have it disabled. Actually, I don't have anything enabled under
"Graphic Support". Since you are using Radeon, I think you might need
to enable Direct Rendering Manager, then choose Radeon.


I run fglrx (AMD/Atis binary blob) and the ebuild complains if I don't 
have certain options set. This may have changed but I've used the same 
config for a while now (since around 2.6.13-14) on older systems (with 
AGP). I'm planning to migrate to radeonhd (or maybe the r300) driver 
when it has 3D support and has stabilised somewhat.


I think I've found some more info on what I'm after:
http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_739_7044,00.html 


(the system programming manual).

Thanks for your time, Andrey!

Best regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?

2008-05-12 Thread b.n.

Grant ha scritto:

 Sorry, I don't see how firmware can affect sensitivity. I've
 been involved in writing firmware for RF data communications
 stuff for a long time, and I've certainly never been able to
 affect sensitivity.


I can say that I was really struggling to get a reliable wireless
connection with the rt2x00 device and Hawking external antenna
anywhere in my garage.  I tried the madwifi device attached to the
same Hawking antenna and the difference was ridiculous.  I got a
perfectly reliable signal from the back of the garage, the point
furthest from the signal's source.

Now that I think about it, I could have enabled outdoor mode for
madwifi, but I can't check it right now.  Could that account for the
difference?


What's madwifi outdoor mode? I googled but I can't find some readable 
information.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?

2008-05-12 Thread Grant
>  >> What do you mean by "outperform"?  I can see how drivers can
>  >> affect throughput.  The Windows drivers for my Laptop's WiFi
>  >> chipset (Intel Pro-something) only get about 1/4 of the
>  >> bandwidth that the Linux drivers do.
>  >>
>  >> But, I don't understand how the driver can affect receiver
>  >> sensitivity.  That's purely a function of the design of the RF
>  >> frontend.
>  >
>  > As modified by the firmware in the device. OK, it's not the
>  > driver per se, but it's certainly not the hardware either
>
>  Sorry, I don't see how firmware can affect sensitivity. I've
>  been involved in writing firmware for RF data communications
>  stuff for a long time, and I've certainly never been able to
>  affect sensitivity.

I can say that I was really struggling to get a reliable wireless
connection with the rt2x00 device and Hawking external antenna
anywhere in my garage.  I tried the madwifi device attached to the
same Hawking antenna and the difference was ridiculous.  I got a
perfectly reliable signal from the back of the garage, the point
furthest from the signal's source.

Now that I think about it, I could have enabled outdoor mode for
madwifi, but I can't check it right now.  Could that account for the
difference?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?

2008-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 May 2008, Grant Edwards wrote:
> > As modified by the firmware in the device. OK, it's not the
> > driver per se, but it's certainly not the hardware either
>
> Sorry, I don't see how firmware can affect sensitivity. I've
> been involved in writing firmware for RF data communications
> stuff for a long time, and I've certainly never been able to
> affect sensitivity.

Well, I don't write firmware for a living, but I do know electronics and 
I do know the stated reason for having these firmware blobs at all - to 
comply with legislation in the respective countries where the device is 
sold.

The RF front end consists of amplifier and filter stages and possibly 
other stuff. The gain of the amplifier stages can easily be made 
adjustable under CPU control, so if a designer plans to do that, it 
would be trivial. Whether they currently actually DO that as opposed to 
it merely being easily possible is a question for someone else to 
answer. 

If that person is you and you know for a fact it is not done that way, 
then I shall stand corrected.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?

2008-05-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-05-12, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> What do you mean by "outperform"?  I can see how drivers can
>> affect throughput.  The Windows drivers for my Laptop's WiFi
>> chipset (Intel Pro-something) only get about 1/4 of the
>> bandwidth that the Linux drivers do.
>>
>> But, I don't understand how the driver can affect receiver
>> sensitivity.  That's purely a function of the design of the RF
>> frontend.
>
> As modified by the firmware in the device. OK, it's not the
> driver per se, but it's certainly not the hardware either

Sorry, I don't see how firmware can affect sensitivity. I've
been involved in writing firmware for RF data communications
stuff for a long time, and I've certainly never been able to
affect sensitivity.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?

2008-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 May 2008, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2008-05-12, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> A curiosity: by itself, the Hawking USB adapter has more or
> >> less sensitivity than the simple Airport glued to my Macbook
> >> motherboard?
> >
> > I think it depends a lot on the maturity of the drivers.  As I
> > said, my Netgear PCI card uses the madwifi drivers and vastly
> > outperforms the Hawking adapter.
>
> What do you mean by "outperform"?  I can see how drivers can
> affect throughput.  The Windows drivers for my Laptop's WiFi
> chipset (Intel Pro-something) only get about 1/4 of the
> bandwidth that the Linux drivers do.
>
> But, I don't understand how the driver can affect receiver
> sensitivity.  That's purely a function of the design of the RF
> frontend.

As modified by the firmware in the device. OK, it's not the driver per 
se, but it's certainly not the hardware either



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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Automated Builds - Advice Plz

2008-05-12 Thread Andrés Becerra Sandoval
On 5/12/08, Paul Sobey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
>  Not sure this is the perfect place to post, but you are such a helpful
>  bunch, I thought I'd give it a crack.
>
>  In several previous jobs I've put together automated builds for Windows
>  boxes, complete with app installs, configuration, bla bla. Now in a new
>  role, I need to develop an automated framework to cover Linux (RHEL),
>  Solaris and Windows. This will probably be in python, so I'll try and have
>  a common menu system asking a sensible set of questions at the beginning.
>
>  What general techniques would you guys recommend for automated builds of
>  Linux/Solaris? Is it as simple as partitioning, untarring an appropriate
>  set of files and writing some config out? It certainly has to be easier
>  than the rather convoluted Windows process :)
>
>  Any advice/suggestions gratefully received.
>
>  Cheers from sunny London,
>  Paul
>
>  p.s. I'm trying to make a case for use of Gentoo internally (I find Gentoo
>  package management easier and more flexible than yum/deb) - but since I'm
>  working for an investment fund, the powers that be are keen on the cozy
>  supportedness of RHEL. Any suggestions here welcome too!
>
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Hello,

I would recommend this Gentoo newsletter:
http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gmn/20080424-newsletter.xml
section 3 .  Heard in the Community



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Re: [gentoo-user] Canon Pixma driver cnijfilter-common-2.60-1.src.rpm

2008-05-12 Thread Justin

deface schrieb:

Justin wrote:

Hi guys!

Is there anybody out there who has still the 
"*cnijfilter-common-2.60-1.src.rpm*" in his ${DISTDIR}? The original 
source isn't valid anymore and I need those drivers for my printer.


If someone could give them to me, then I would host them for puplic 
on my site!


Thanks for help,
justin


which ebuild is this? a bug needs to be filed if source is invalid.
It is from the zugaina overlay and there is a bug report for that 
(http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130645).




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[gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-12 Thread Michael Schmarck
Hello Sandro.

· Sandro Hannemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>>  Correct. However you said, that "you need to access it (Linux backup
>>  directories) from Windows too". And that's the main point and the point
>>  that hasn't been answered yet: Why do you think, that such a need
>>  exists?
> 
> 
> Suppose, you've got a project on which you work on both Windows and
> Linux machines (and maybe even a Mac...)

Okay.

> Such a project needs backups and it is very convenient and logic too,
> to be able to restore (or access) it from Linux and Windows likewise.

Depends if that's "very logic too". Are we talking about backing up
something like a "My Pictures" folder, or are we talking about system
backups?

> Why should this be such a strange idea? 

Because you usually don't "mix-and-match" backups. A backup should
be a "storage" of how the system was at a certain point in time.

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[gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-12 Thread Michael Schmarck
· Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Mon, 12 May 2008 15:07:06 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote:
> 
>> And last, but not least: Why should backup directories be shared in
>> the first place?
> 
> They shouldn't, and I never stated that they should.

You stated that there might be such a need. In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008  16:09:30 +0100 you wrote:

| Because you need to access it from Windows too?

That was a response to my question:

| Why not put ext* or reiserfs or whatever on such a drive?

I then asked, why you think that such a need might exist. That 
question hasn't been answered by you up to now.

Later on, I asked:

| But more interesting: Why should they even be able to backup to the
| same drive (or better: to the same filesystem)?

That question also hasn't been answered yet.

It seems you don't want to answer that question. Why's that?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 12 May 2008 15:07:06 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote:

> And last, but not least: Why should backup directories be shared in
> the first place?

They shouldn't, and I never stated that they should.


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[gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?

2008-05-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-05-12, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> A curiosity: by itself, the Hawking USB adapter has more or
>> less sensitivity than the simple Airport glued to my Macbook
>> motherboard?
>
> I think it depends a lot on the maturity of the drivers.  As I
> said, my Netgear PCI card uses the madwifi drivers and vastly
> outperforms the Hawking adapter.

What do you mean by "outperform"?  I can see how drivers can
affect throughput.  The Windows drivers for my Laptop's WiFi
chipset (Intel Pro-something) only get about 1/4 of the
bandwidth that the Linux drivers do.

But, I don't understand how the driver can affect receiver
sensitivity.  That's purely a function of the design of the RF
frontend.

> The Hawking's drivers are fairly new (rt2x00) and madwifi has
> been around for quite a while now.
>
> I do have another rt2x00 adapter that performs noticeably
> worse than the Hawking.  It's a Linksys and it has no external
> antenna.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Canon Pixma driver cnijfilter-common-2.60-1.src.rpm

2008-05-12 Thread deface

Justin wrote:

Hi guys!

Is there anybody out there who has still the 
"*cnijfilter-common-2.60-1.src.rpm*" in his ${DISTDIR}? The original 
source isn't valid anymore and I need those drivers for my printer.


If someone could give them to me, then I would host them for puplic on 
my site!


Thanks for help,
justin


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-12 Thread Sandro Hannemann
>  Correct. However you said, that "you need to access it (Linux backup
>  directories) from Windows too". And that's the main point and the point
>  that hasn't been answered yet: Why do you think, that such a need
>  exists?


Suppose, you've got a project on which you work on both Windows and
Linux machines (and maybe even a Mac...)
Such a project needs backups and it is very convenient and logic too,
to be able to restore (or access) it from Linux and Windows likewise.

Why should this be such a strange idea? I really fail to see why you
insist on this ideological exclusion principle.
Rather it would be good to think of options, what techniques would be
most reliable to perform such backups.

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] [OT] Automated Builds - Advice Plz

2008-05-12 Thread Paul Sobey
Hello All,

Not sure this is the perfect place to post, but you are such a helpful
bunch, I thought I'd give it a crack.

In several previous jobs I've put together automated builds for Windows
boxes, complete with app installs, configuration, bla bla. Now in a new
role, I need to develop an automated framework to cover Linux (RHEL),
Solaris and Windows. This will probably be in python, so I'll try and have
a common menu system asking a sensible set of questions at the beginning.

What general techniques would you guys recommend for automated builds of
Linux/Solaris? Is it as simple as partitioning, untarring an appropriate
set of files and writing some config out? It certainly has to be easier
than the rather convoluted Windows process :)

Any advice/suggestions gratefully received.

Cheers from sunny London,
Paul

p.s. I'm trying to make a case for use of Gentoo internally (I find Gentoo
package management easier and more flexible than yum/deb) - but since I'm
working for an investment fund, the powers that be are keen on the cozy
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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-12 Thread Michael Schmarck
· Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sat, 10 May 2008 08:07:25 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote:
> 
>> At least I wouldn't store everything in the same directory. It would
>> of course be a good idea to seperate things. 
> 
>  When did I ever mention using a single directory to mix up all
> backups?

Never. And when did I say something like that?

> All I did was answer a question with an example of when different OSes
> may need to share a backup medium 

Correct. However you said, that "you need to access it (Linux backup
directories) from Windows too". And that's the main point and the point
that hasn't been answered yet: Why do you think, that such a need 
exists?

On the contrary, I think that such a need absolutely does not exist
and should be very much avoided. Reasons:

- "DOS Filesystems" (fat, ntfs) don't allow to store all the metadata
you find on Linux.
- "Linux filesystems" (ext*, reiser, ...) don't allow to store all
the metadata you find on Windows.
- Sharing backup space means, that it get's used more often. This
makes the risk larger, that something bad happens.

And last, but not least: Why should backup directories be shared in
the first place?

>> And why do you make such a fuss about such a natural thing? There's
>> just no reason in sharing such a device/filesystem/"storage endpoint"
>> between different operating systems.
> 
> Where did I state that a storage endpoint should be shared?

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 
16:09:30 +0100

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Re: [gentoo-user] Canon Pixma driver cnijfilter-common-2.60-1.src.rpm

2008-05-12 Thread Justin

Justin schrieb:

Hi guys!

Is there anybody out there who has still the 
"*cnijfilter-common-2.60-1.src.rpm*" in his ${DISTDIR}? The original 
source isn't valid anymore and I need those drivers for my printer.


If someone could give them to me, then I would host them for puplic on 
my site!


Thanks for help,
justin

Okey, found solution myself. For all who want to have the file just do 
to http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0024302.asp?model=   and 
download the driver, untar and there it is.




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[gentoo-user] Canon Pixma driver cnijfilter-common-2.60-1.src.rpm

2008-05-12 Thread Justin

Hi guys!

Is there anybody out there who has still the 
"*cnijfilter-common-2.60-1.src.rpm*" in his ${DISTDIR}? The original 
source isn't valid anymore and I need those drivers for my printer.


If someone could give them to me, then I would host them for puplic on 
my site!


Thanks for help,
justin



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?

2008-05-12 Thread Grant
>   I'm talking about the USB wireless adapter (I don't think I can
>   connect the antenna to my laptop directly),
>   not the passphrase key...
>  >>>
>  >>> Ah. I've got a Hawking HWUG1 USB WiFi adapter that works fine
>  >>> with Gentoo (I had to download driver source from somewhere).
>  >>> It's got an R-SMA connector for use with external antennas.
>  >>
>  >> I've had good luck using these together:
>  >>
>  >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164015
>  >
>  > Yup, that's the one I have.  That's a good price on it, too.
>  >
>  >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
>  >
>  > I've also got one of those antennas and it's exellent.  It
>  > provides a little (1-2dB) more gain as my double-biquad
>  > reflector, but it's a lot cheaper (assuming your time is worth
>  > much), and a bit easier to use, since it will sit nicely on a
>  > table or windowsill.
>
>  Seems a nice combo, indeed.
>  A curiosity: by itself, the Hawking USB adapter has more or less
>  sensitivity than the simple Airport glued to my Macbook motherboard?

I think it depends a lot on the maturity of the drivers.  As I said,
my Netgear PCI card uses the madwifi drivers and vastly outperforms
the Hawking adapter.  The Hawking's drivers are fairly new (rt2x00)
and madwifi has been around for quite a while now.

I do have another rt2x00 adapter that performs noticeably worse than
the Hawking.  It's a Linksys and it has no external antenna.

Also worth noting is that this item:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315075

uses rt2x00 but has some type of failure issue.  Possibly heat
related, possibly not.  I've experienced it firsthand.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] df showing rootfs

2008-05-12 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 12 May 2008, 00:41, Daniel Iliev wrote:

> > I am curious why it reads "rootfs" and "/dev/root" in the output of
> > df instead of "/dev/hda2" as I have it in my /etc/fstab, and why
> > there are two entries.
> >
> > W
>
> Alright. Perhaps "man libblkid".
>
> Which leads me to one *really wild* guess after which I'm out of
> ideas. Try refreshing your block device identification cache by:
>
> rm /etc/blkid.tab* && blkid

FWIW, I've always seen those entries (or something quite similar) 
in /proc/mounts (for a long time), but never in the output of df.

$ cat /proc/mounts
rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
/dev/root / reiserfs rw,noatime 0 0
proc /proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
udev /dev tmpfs rw,nosuid 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec 0 0
/dev/sda7 /home ext3 rw,noatime,data=ordered 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0

$ df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda8 18899832   6396036  12503796  34% /
udev 10240   100 10140   1% /dev
/dev/sda7 96124904  74332380  16909572  82% /home
none   1037040 0   1037040   0% /dev/shm

(I haven't switched to baselayout-2 yet). That said, I have no idea why 
the output of df under baselayout-2 differs (although I assume that the 
rc-svcdir thing is somehow related to baselayout-2 or openrc).
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output confusion regarding upgradeable packages

2008-05-12 Thread PaulNM

Alan McKinnon wrote:


This is expected behaviour. 

The three packages you mention are not in world and thus don't form part 
of the initial search. Even though you are using -uN, nothing in world 
*requires* specifically those updated/latest versions, so they never 
make it into the dependency tree as a suitable version is already 
installed.


I think the end of my message was a little confusing, if you look 
earlier, you'll see I'm using "--deep". (emerge -pv --update --deep 
--newuse world)




When you add -t though, you clear out the dependency tree, fooling 
portage into thinking the packages are not installed. dnspython, 
xcursorgen and yasm are needed and not installed so portage does the 
normal thing of selecting the latest versions that match your rules 
in /etc/portage




I think you mean -e (--emptytree) here. Using -t (--tree) just adds a 
whole bunch of stuff to help you see what is pulling in particular 
packages. I seem to recall at one time using -e actually showed all 
packages as N (new), but now it seems to indicate their current status 
(R for replace).



According to the emerge man page, "-u" (--update) will update the 
specified set and its direct dependencies. "-d" (--deep) will update the 
specified set and its entire dependency tree (dependencies of its 
dependencies, and so on).  My final comment was simply noting that two 
of the three were direct dependencies and should show up with just -u. 
In any case, they should all show up with -d.





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Re: [gentoo-user] df showing rootfs

2008-05-12 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 12. Mai 2008 schrieb Daniel Iliev:

> Try refreshing your block device identification cache by:
>
> rm /etc/blkid.tab*

I don't have those files, although I see the rootfs line in df output. But 
again: Why would I care? What's the problem?

Bye...

Dirk


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