Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] yaboot has kicked my butt - 5 times?!
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Joseph Jezak jos...@gentoo.org wrote: My responses are inline this time. It's easier when there's so much going on! On 09/23/10 16:41, Mark Knecht wrote: Two pictures posted: Top half of boot screen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/29328...@n03/5018717650/ Bottom half of boot screen http://www.flickr.com/photos/29328...@n03/5018718202/ Okay, these look exactly as expected. You've booted into the shell fine and the kernel does detect the hard drive fine. It appears that the disk was not cleanly unmounted, which is what the messages in the bottom picture indicate. Once you get USB working so we can type into the console, we'll take a look at what's actually going on. Full USB HID support is built as modular. I don't seem to be able to change it to built in. make menuconfig is only giving me modular or not set. (Kernel config USB info this is set is at the end) If you use menuconfig and you go to the Help option, it will tell you what dependencies need to be set in order to build the module. Most likely, you did not set the USB subsystem itself to be built in. lspci says the controller is an Apple controller and the driver is 'macio' which seems sensible. I see it in the boot screen I think. That driver is built in, but the PATA_MACIO driver is not: (chroot) livecd linux # cat .config | grep MACIO # CONFIG_PATA_MACIO is not set CONFIG_ADB_MACIO=y (chroot) livecd linux # Maybe I've mistakenly left the right disk driver out of the kernel thinking the hardware was SATA based? Does the PATA_MACIO option need to be set for the Mac Mini? I don't understand how this kernel config would have ever worked befor unless I'm confusing where it came from. You're using the old style driver which results in devices named hdX#. It's called IDE_PMAC. The new driver which uses the sdX# naming convention (and uses libpata), is called PATA_MACIO. Does the append=init=/bin/bash command allow the kernel to load drivers or do I need to build USBHID into the kernel to get the keyboard to work at this level of boot? I would built it in for now, it'll be easier since there's no good way to get into the system to tell it to load the drivers. -Joe Hi Joe, OK - I got USB working and with the append=init=/bin/bash in I can at least do cd and ls commands. All the devices you asked about exist - /dev/hda1 through 20, /dev/hdb1 through 20, /dev/null and /dev/zero - all exist. Doing know if it's a clue but in this append=init=/bin/bash state I was unable to do a reboot or a shutdown as it complained about missing initctl I think? Being that I made a number of changes to the kernel config to get USB working I remove the append line from yaboot.conf and tried booting into Gentoo proper but it's still stopping at the same place with the same message about no mtab file. I'll put the append back in and wait for further ideas. Thanks for sticking with me! Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] yaboot has kicked my butt - 5 times?!
On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Joseph Jezak jos...@gentoo.org wrote: My responses are inline this time. It's easier when there's so much going on! On 09/23/10 16:41, Mark Knecht wrote: Two pictures posted: Top half of boot screen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/29328...@n03/5018717650/ Bottom half of boot screen http://www.flickr.com/photos/29328...@n03/5018718202/ Okay, these look exactly as expected. You've booted into the shell fine and the kernel does detect the hard drive fine. It appears that the disk was not cleanly unmounted, which is what the messages in the bottom picture indicate. Once you get USB working so we can type into the console, we'll take a look at what's actually going on. Full USB HID support is built as modular. I don't seem to be able to change it to built in. make menuconfig is only giving me modular or not set. (Kernel config USB info this is set is at the end) If you use menuconfig and you go to the Help option, it will tell you what dependencies need to be set in order to build the module. Most likely, you did not set the USB subsystem itself to be built in. lspci says the controller is an Apple controller and the driver is 'macio' which seems sensible. I see it in the boot screen I think. That driver is built in, but the PATA_MACIO driver is not: (chroot) livecd linux # cat .config | grep MACIO # CONFIG_PATA_MACIO is not set CONFIG_ADB_MACIO=y (chroot) livecd linux # Maybe I've mistakenly left the right disk driver out of the kernel thinking the hardware was SATA based? Does the PATA_MACIO option need to be set for the Mac Mini? I don't understand how this kernel config would have ever worked befor unless I'm confusing where it came from. You're using the old style driver which results in devices named hdX#. It's called IDE_PMAC. The new driver which uses the sdX# naming convention (and uses libpata), is called PATA_MACIO. Does the append=init=/bin/bash command allow the kernel to load drivers or do I need to build USBHID into the kernel to get the keyboard to work at this level of boot? I would built it in for now, it'll be easier since there's no good way to get into the system to tell it to load the drivers. -Joe Hi Joe, OK - I got USB working and with the append=init=/bin/bash in I can at least do cd and ls commands. All the devices you asked about exist - /dev/hda1 through 20, /dev/hdb1 through 20, /dev/null and /dev/zero - all exist. Doing know if it's a clue but in this append=init=/bin/bash state I was unable to do a reboot or a shutdown as it complained about missing initctl I think? Being that I made a number of changes to the kernel config to get USB working I remove the append line from yaboot.conf and tried booting into Gentoo proper but it's still stopping at the same place with the same message about no mtab file. I'll put the append back in and wait for further ideas. Thanks for sticking with me! Cheers, Mark Assuming you are still stopping near: fsck.ext3... Can you confirm that /sbin/fsck.ext3 exists? If not, then emerge e2fsprogs. Barry
Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] yaboot has kicked my butt - 5 times?!
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Enlightened User li...@nc.rr.com wrote: On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Joseph Jezak jos...@gentoo.org wrote: My responses are inline this time. It's easier when there's so much going on! On 09/23/10 16:41, Mark Knecht wrote: Two pictures posted: Top half of boot screen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/29328...@n03/5018717650/ Bottom half of boot screen http://www.flickr.com/photos/29328...@n03/5018718202/ Okay, these look exactly as expected. You've booted into the shell fine and the kernel does detect the hard drive fine. It appears that the disk was not cleanly unmounted, which is what the messages in the bottom picture indicate. Once you get USB working so we can type into the console, we'll take a look at what's actually going on. Full USB HID support is built as modular. I don't seem to be able to change it to built in. make menuconfig is only giving me modular or not set. (Kernel config USB info this is set is at the end) If you use menuconfig and you go to the Help option, it will tell you what dependencies need to be set in order to build the module. Most likely, you did not set the USB subsystem itself to be built in. lspci says the controller is an Apple controller and the driver is 'macio' which seems sensible. I see it in the boot screen I think. That driver is built in, but the PATA_MACIO driver is not: (chroot) livecd linux # cat .config | grep MACIO # CONFIG_PATA_MACIO is not set CONFIG_ADB_MACIO=y (chroot) livecd linux # Maybe I've mistakenly left the right disk driver out of the kernel thinking the hardware was SATA based? Does the PATA_MACIO option need to be set for the Mac Mini? I don't understand how this kernel config would have ever worked befor unless I'm confusing where it came from. You're using the old style driver which results in devices named hdX#. It's called IDE_PMAC. The new driver which uses the sdX# naming convention (and uses libpata), is called PATA_MACIO. Does the append=init=/bin/bash command allow the kernel to load drivers or do I need to build USBHID into the kernel to get the keyboard to work at this level of boot? I would built it in for now, it'll be easier since there's no good way to get into the system to tell it to load the drivers. -Joe Hi Joe, OK - I got USB working and with the append=init=/bin/bash in I can at least do cd and ls commands. All the devices you asked about exist - /dev/hda1 through 20, /dev/hdb1 through 20, /dev/null and /dev/zero - all exist. Doing know if it's a clue but in this append=init=/bin/bash state I was unable to do a reboot or a shutdown as it complained about missing initctl I think? Being that I made a number of changes to the kernel config to get USB working I remove the append line from yaboot.conf and tried booting into Gentoo proper but it's still stopping at the same place with the same message about no mtab file. I'll put the append back in and wait for further ideas. Thanks for sticking with me! Cheers, Mark Assuming you are still stopping near: fsck.ext3... Can you confirm that /sbin/fsck.ext3 exists? If not, then emerge e2fsprogs. Barry The chroot is currently doing an emerge -e @world so I've shelled into the machine and am showing from that perspective. All the typical fsck programs are there and I rebuilt e2fsprogs a couple of days ago. livecd gentoo # ls /mnt/gentoo/sbin/fsck* fsck fsck.ext2 fsck.ext4 fsck.minix fsck.cramfs fsck.ext3 fsck.ext4dev livecd gentoo # When emerge -e @world completes I'll give it a reboot but somehow I don't have much faith that it will have fixed anything. Right now I feel it's either something missing from my kernel config, or some critical install step that I keep missing because of the way I read the document and maybe some step that listed inside a paragraph instead of being called out in purple like most of them are. (They are in there, like the locale-gen step and a few others...) I'll check back later when the rebuild is complete. Thanks! Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] spamd segmentation fault and spamassassin will not emerge
Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: I thought seg faults were usually hardware does it happen at the same point every time? I don't know as core is not dumped, but running perl-cleaner did fix it -- weird. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Anyone using fsarchiver to backup their Linux filesystems?
fsarchiver: http://www.fsarchiver.org/Main_Page I am using it to backup my Linux ext4 filesystems and Logical Volume Manager 2 (LVM2) logical volumes. Here is a very simple Linux shell script which I wrote to backup my /boot filesystem as well as the host operating system's volume group. CODE #!/bin/sh DESTDIR=/media/usbharddisk FILENAME=22sep2010-wed.fsa BOOT=/dev/sda1 OPTIONS=-A -j 2 fsarchiver savefs $DESTDIR/$FILENAME $BOOT /dev/vg_fedora11_host/lv_home /dev/vg_fedora11_host/lv_root /dev/vg_fedora11_host/lv_var \ $OPTIONS /CODE Specifying the option -A allows me to do a live backup of the filesystems while they are mounted read-write. The option -j2 allows me to use 2 compression threads (I am using Intel Pentium Dual Core E6300 processor @ 2800 MHz). -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) 张恩鸣 Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering) Citizenship: Singapore Citizen/Singaporean Alma Maters: [1] Singapore Polytechnic (Graduated 1998) [2] National University of Singapore (Graduated 2006) Facebook account: Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Facebook link: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10750083982 Facebook photos: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10750083982#!/profile.php?id=10750083982v=photos Facebook videos: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10750083982v=app_2392950137 Mobile Phone (Starhub pre-paid): +65-8369-2618 Windows Live Messenger: teoenming-at-hotmail.com Location: Bedok Reservoir Road, Singapore ZIP: 470103 My Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders (Updated 28 August 2010):- http://lists.mcs.anl.gov/pipermail/mpich-discuss/2010-August/007811.html http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2010-August/295952.html http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_f6a341d9623fda17880159b137c07335.xml Photo of Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) 张恩鸣 of Singapore #1: http://i53.tinypic.com/207tamp.jpg Photo of Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) 张恩鸣 of Singapore #2: http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7534/enmingteodscf2511.jpg Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) sues God for being too busy and unresponsive.
Re: [gentoo-user] Native 32 and 64-bit linux Flash 10 Preview Release available
* Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Bad news It's more painfull building up a collection of flv videos. The old version used to copy Youtube videos/songs/whatever into /tmp with a filename beginning with Flash. Which tends to fill up disk space, if not wiped regularily ;-o The new version dumps it in the Cache directory of whatever Firefox profile I'm using. You have to cd to the Cache subdirectory, and execute... Which is more correct, as it belongs into the browser's cache. Of course, Mozilla's way of placing it's cache directly into user profiles (instead of separate dirs under $TEMP) is the wrong approach, but that's another story. BTW: if you wanna catch videos and other media you came along while surfing, just use a proper proxy (eg. wwwoffle) for that. cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de mobile: +49 151 27565287 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme --
[gentoo-user] Monitor Resolution
After a recent xorg upgrade my display hasn't been quite right. It's all usable, but it looks like the resolution is wrong. The resolution is now set at the highest 1024x768 where it use to be 1280x1024. Gnome-System-Preference-Monitors Under Monitor Preferences the monitor is Unknown, Resolution 1024x768, Refresh Rate 0 Hz, and Rotation Normal. The Detect monitors button doesn't seem to do anything. The only other option under Resolution is 800x600. I have a fairly new Samsung 932BW LCD Monitor and using an Nvidia graphics card. Any ideas on how to get my display back? Thanks, dhk
Re: [gentoo-user] Monitor Resolution
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 06:47 -0400, dhk wrote: After a recent xorg upgrade my display hasn't been quite right. It's all usable, but it looks like the resolution is wrong. The resolution is now set at the highest 1024x768 where it use to be 1280x1024. Gnome-System-Preference-Monitors Under Monitor Preferences the monitor is Unknown, Resolution 1024x768, Refresh Rate 0 Hz, and Rotation Normal. The Detect monitors button doesn't seem to do anything. The only other option under Resolution is 800x600. I have a fairly new Samsung 932BW LCD Monitor and using an Nvidia graphics card. Any ideas on how to get my display back? Thanks, First, the obligatory have you looked at the logs? Not a lot of information was given (upgraded to what version? what drivers?, etc). but here is a guess. Since you are using an nvidia card, I'm guessing you are using the proprietary nvidia drivers. The gnome preference thingie uses xrandr which, as far as I know, the proprietery nvidia drivers do not support. I don't use nvidia cards anymore, but from my memory the GNOME monitor app has never worked with Nvidia. I'm also guessing that you upgraded to xorg-server 1.9. Based on that, and the fact that Nvidia drivers are usually behind Xorg updates, I'm going to guess that the proprietary drivers are not working correctly, either because Nvidia has to push out an update that supports 1.9 or you have not re-compiled your drivers after upgrading the server. So I would say first to try recompiling the Nvidia driver (if you haven't already done so) and if that doesn't fix the problem you'll might have to wait until Nvidia updates their proprietary drivers. Anyway that's just a guess, since I no longer use Nvidia and based on the limited information received. You will likely find more information (that you can post) by looking at the X server's log file. -a
Re: [gentoo-user] spamd segmentation fault and spamassassin will not emerge
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 14:27 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: I thought seg faults were usually hardware No segfaults are usually software or, more specifically (C) programming errors. It's when an application attempts to access a memory location that it's not assigned to.
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage internals : shadow root
* Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Remove all traces of yast and it's bastard brethren from the SuSE box. 2. Have three qualified sysadmins double check that you have indeed removed every last trace of it. 3. PREFIX=/some/stage/dir/ 4. ./configure make make install No, configure with normal FHS prefixes (eg. --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var ...) and pass the DESTDIR variable on 'make install'. Ah, BTW: first you'll should install a recent and clean toolchain completely. SuSE's toolchain packages are known to be broken. Why remove yast? Because it's a sneaky P.O.S. and goes to extraordinary lengths to nuke all your hard work done without it. ACK. That's the first thing I do when some customer comes around with some SuSE box (especially those strange masshoster installations). SuSE is meant for people who wear suits and ties even when going to bed. It's probably nice for migrating Windoze people into the *nix world, but not for enterprise production systems ;-o The funny thing is, back in the 90's it had been a really good distro, back when people like Werner Fink and Boris Nalbach were in charge of the technical designs. That's long gone - 6.x already showed big signs of degregation, 7.x was ugly, beginning with 8.x totally unusable ;-p Take my advise: migrate to another distro. cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de mobile: +49 151 27565287 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme --
Re: [gentoo-user] Monitor Resolution
On 09/24/2010 07:06 AM, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 06:47 -0400, dhk wrote: After a recent xorg upgrade my display hasn't been quite right. It's all usable, but it looks like the resolution is wrong. The resolution is now set at the highest 1024x768 where it use to be 1280x1024. Gnome-System-Preference-Monitors Under Monitor Preferences the monitor is Unknown, Resolution 1024x768, Refresh Rate 0 Hz, and Rotation Normal. The Detect monitors button doesn't seem to do anything. The only other option under Resolution is 800x600. I have a fairly new Samsung 932BW LCD Monitor and using an Nvidia graphics card. Any ideas on how to get my display back? Thanks, First, the obligatory have you looked at the logs? Not a lot of information was given (upgraded to what version? what drivers?, etc). but here is a guess. Since you are using an nvidia card, I'm guessing you are using the proprietary nvidia drivers. The gnome preference thingie uses xrandr which, as far as I know, the proprietery nvidia drivers do not support. I don't use nvidia cards anymore, but from my memory the GNOME monitor app has never worked with Nvidia. I'm also guessing that you upgraded to xorg-server 1.9. Based on that, and the fact that Nvidia drivers are usually behind Xorg updates, I'm going to guess that the proprietary drivers are not working correctly, either because Nvidia has to push out an update that supports 1.9 or you have not re-compiled your drivers after upgrading the server. So I would say first to try recompiling the Nvidia driver (if you haven't already done so) and if that doesn't fix the problem you'll might have to wait until Nvidia updates their proprietary drivers. Anyway that's just a guess, since I no longer use Nvidia and based on the limited information received. You will likely find more information (that you can post) by looking at the X server's log file. -a After doing the following I didn't notice any difference and the nvidia driver wasn't installed in the first place. First) # emerge x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers Calculating dependencies... done! Verifying ebuild manifests Starting parallel fetch Emerging (1 of 4) app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-opengl-20100611 Emerging (2 of 4) x11-libs/libvdpau-0.4 Installing (2 of 4) x11-libs/libvdpau-0.4 Installing (1 of 4) app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-opengl-20100611 Emerging (3 of 4) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-195.36.31 Installing (3 of 4) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-195.36.31 Recording x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers in world favorites file... Emerging (4 of 4) media-video/nvidia-settings-195.36.24 Installing (4 of 4) media-video/nvidia-settings-195.36.24 Jobs: 4 of 4 complete Load avg: 3.49, 2.20, 1.21 * Messages for package x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-195.36.31: * * WARNING * * * You are currently installing a version of nvidia-drivers that is * known not to work with a video card you have installed on your * system. If this is intentional, please ignore this. If it is not * please perform the following steps: * * Add the following mask entry to /etc/portage/package.mask by * echo =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-177.0.0 * /etc/portage/package.mask * * Failure to perform the steps above could result in a non-working * X setup. * * For more information please read: * http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html * You must be in the video group to use the NVIDIA device * For more info, read the docs at * http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml#doc_chap3_sect6 * * This ebuild installs a kernel module and X driver. Both must * match explicitly in their version. This means, if you restart * X, you must modprobe -r nvidia before starting it back up * * To use the NVIDIA GLX, run eselect opengl set nvidia * * NVIDIA has requested that any bug reports submitted have the * output of /usr/bin/nvidia-bug-report.sh included. * * To work with compiz, you must enable the * AddARGBGLXVisuals option. * * If you are having resolution problems, try * disabling DynamicTwinView. Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. * GNU info directory index is up-to-date. Second) echo =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-177.0.0 /etc/portage/package.mask Third) modprobe has nothing to do. # modprobe -rn nvidia Original opengl setting # eselect opengl list Available OpenGL implementations: [1] nvidia [2] xorg-x11 * Restarted and nothing changed. fourth) # eselect opengl set nvidia # eselect opengl list Available OpenGL implementations: [1] nvidia * [2] xorg-x11 Restarted and nothing changed. Do I need to set the resolution somewhere? I haven't used an xorg.conf file in sometime. Thanks, dhk
Re: [gentoo-user] Monitor Resolution
On 09/24/10 05:38, dhk wrote: On 09/24/2010 07:06 AM, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 06:47 -0400, dhk wrote: After a recent xorg upgrade my display hasn't been quite right. It's all usable, but it looks like the resolution is wrong. The resolution is now set at the highest 1024x768 where it use to be 1280x1024. Gnome-System-Preference-Monitors Under Monitor Preferences the monitor is Unknown, Resolution 1024x768, Refresh Rate 0 Hz, and Rotation Normal. The Detect monitors button doesn't seem to do anything. The only other option under Resolution is 800x600. I have a fairly new Samsung 932BW LCD Monitor and using an Nvidia graphics card. Any ideas on how to get my display back? Thanks, First, the obligatory have you looked at the logs? Not a lot of information was given (upgraded to what version? what drivers?, etc). but here is a guess. Since you are using an nvidia card, I'm guessing you are using the proprietary nvidia drivers. The gnome preference thingie uses xrandr which, as far as I know, the proprietery nvidia drivers do not support. I don't use nvidia cards anymore, but from my memory the GNOME monitor app has never worked with Nvidia. I'm also guessing that you upgraded to xorg-server 1.9. Based on that, and the fact that Nvidia drivers are usually behind Xorg updates, I'm going to guess that the proprietary drivers are not working correctly, either because Nvidia has to push out an update that supports 1.9 or you have not re-compiled your drivers after upgrading the server. So I would say first to try recompiling the Nvidia driver (if you haven't already done so) and if that doesn't fix the problem you'll might have to wait until Nvidia updates their proprietary drivers. Anyway that's just a guess, since I no longer use Nvidia and based on the limited information received. You will likely find more information (that you can post) by looking at the X server's log file. -a After doing the following I didn't notice any difference and the nvidia driver wasn't installed in the first place. First) # emerge x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers Calculating dependencies... done! Verifying ebuild manifests Starting parallel fetch Emerging (1 of 4) app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-opengl-20100611 Emerging (2 of 4) x11-libs/libvdpau-0.4 Installing (2 of 4) x11-libs/libvdpau-0.4 Installing (1 of 4) app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-opengl-20100611 Emerging (3 of 4) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-195.36.31 Installing (3 of 4) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-195.36.31 Recording x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers in world favorites file... Emerging (4 of 4) media-video/nvidia-settings-195.36.24 Installing (4 of 4) media-video/nvidia-settings-195.36.24 Jobs: 4 of 4 complete Load avg: 3.49, 2.20, 1.21 * Messages for package x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-195.36.31: * * WARNING * * * You are currently installing a version of nvidia-drivers that is * known not to work with a video card you have installed on your * system. If this is intentional, please ignore this. If it is not * please perform the following steps: * * Add the following mask entry to /etc/portage/package.mask by * echo =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-177.0.0 * /etc/portage/package.mask * * Failure to perform the steps above could result in a non-working * X setup. * * For more information please read: * http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html * You must be in the video group to use the NVIDIA device * For more info, read the docs at * http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml#doc_chap3_sect6 * * This ebuild installs a kernel module and X driver. Both must * match explicitly in their version. This means, if you restart * X, you must modprobe -r nvidia before starting it back up * * To use the NVIDIA GLX, run eselect opengl set nvidia * * NVIDIA has requested that any bug reports submitted have the * output of /usr/bin/nvidia-bug-report.sh included. * * To work with compiz, you must enable the * AddARGBGLXVisuals option. * * If you are having resolution problems, try * disabling DynamicTwinView. Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. * GNU info directory index is up-to-date. Second) echo =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-177.0.0 /etc/portage/package.mask You should have emerged nvidia-drivers here. Third) modprobe has nothing to do. # modprobe -rn nvidia Original opengl setting # eselect opengl list Available OpenGL implementations: [1] nvidia [2] xorg-x11 * Restarted and nothing changed. fourth) # eselect opengl set nvidia # eselect opengl list Available OpenGL implementations: [1] nvidia * [2] xorg-x11 Restarted and nothing changed. Do I need to set the resolution somewhere? I haven't used an xorg.conf file in sometime. Thanks, dhk
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.comwrote: On 09/22/10 07:31, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 20 September 2010 16:38:05 Paul Hartman wrote: I haven't had any crashing or failing to start, but Firefox in Linux has always been pretty bad in general for me. Slow UI, unusable in NX (constant screen redraws; Thunderbird does the same thing), network stalling for MINUTES at a time, slow to load, etc. Other browsers on the same machine don't suffer any of these problems. I don't use Firefox as my primary browser because it is so flaky. That's odd, because on this newish i5 box, which is suffering really severe responsiveness problems otherwise, FF responds to my commands smartly. Firefox for windows is compiled with PGO via ICC which apparently improves performance quite a bit. I believe there are issues when firefox is compiled with GCC via PGO and in any case, there is no support for PGO building of Firefox @ gentoo afaik. I wish I had the time and knowledge to whip up an ebuild that could do the magic to test it out tho. Any takers ? :P Uh, what are PGO and ICC?? I also must add that I get decent performance from the fox on Ubuntu let alone Vista, which makes me take your suggestion about build parameters seriously. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On 09/24/10 09:48, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com mailto:b...@thehenderson.com wrote: On 09/22/10 07:31, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 20 September 2010 16:38:05 Paul Hartman wrote: I haven't had any crashing or failing to start, but Firefox in Linux has always been pretty bad in general for me. Slow UI, unusable in NX (constant screen redraws; Thunderbird does the same thing), network stalling for MINUTES at a time, slow to load, etc. Other browsers on the same machine don't suffer any of these problems. I don't use Firefox as my primary browser because it is so flaky. That's odd, because on this newish i5 box, which is suffering really severe responsiveness problems otherwise, FF responds to my commands smartly. Firefox for windows is compiled with PGO via ICC which apparently improves performance quite a bit. I believe there are issues when firefox is compiled with GCC via PGO and in any case, there is no support for PGO building of Firefox @ gentoo afaik. I wish I had the time and knowledge to whip up an ebuild that could do the magic to test it out tho. Any takers ? :P Uh, what are PGO and ICC?? I also must add that I get decent performance from the fox on Ubuntu let alone Vista, which makes me take your suggestion about build parameters seriously. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD ICC is the Intel C compiler.
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.comwrote: On 09/24/10 09:48, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.comwrote: On 09/22/10 07:31, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 20 September 2010 16:38:05 Paul Hartman wrote: I haven't had any crashing or failing to start, but Firefox in Linux has always been pretty bad in general for me. Slow UI, unusable in NX (constant screen redraws; Thunderbird does the same thing), network stalling for MINUTES at a time, slow to load, etc. Other browsers on the same machine don't suffer any of these problems. I don't use Firefox as my primary browser because it is so flaky. That's odd, because on this newish i5 box, which is suffering really severe responsiveness problems otherwise, FF responds to my commands smartly. Firefox for windows is compiled with PGO via ICC which apparently improves performance quite a bit. I believe there are issues when firefox is compiled with GCC via PGO and in any case, there is no support for PGO building of Firefox @ gentoo afaik. I wish I had the time and knowledge to whip up an ebuild that could do the magic to test it out tho. Any takers ? :P Uh, what are PGO and ICC?? I also must add that I get decent performance from the fox on Ubuntu let alone Vista, which makes me take your suggestion about build parameters seriously. ICC is the Intel C compiler. Ahh.. I've heard good things about it, but I'm under the impression it is not free (as in beer). Is that true? -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On Friday 24 September 2010 10:26:54 pm Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Ahh.. I've heard good things about it, but I'm under the impression it is not free (as in beer). Is that true? true. -- - Yohan Pereira.
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On 09/24/10 09:56, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com mailto:bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/24/10 09:48, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com mailto:b...@thehenderson.com wrote: On 09/22/10 07:31, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 20 September 2010 16:38:05 Paul Hartman wrote: I haven't had any crashing or failing to start, but Firefox in Linux has always been pretty bad in general for me. Slow UI, unusable in NX (constant screen redraws; Thunderbird does the same thing), network stalling for MINUTES at a time, slow to load, etc. Other browsers on the same machine don't suffer any of these problems. I don't use Firefox as my primary browser because it is so flaky. That's odd, because on this newish i5 box, which is suffering really severe responsiveness problems otherwise, FF responds to my commands smartly. Firefox for windows is compiled with PGO via ICC which apparently improves performance quite a bit. I believe there are issues when firefox is compiled with GCC via PGO and in any case, there is no support for PGO building of Firefox @ gentoo afaik. I wish I had the time and knowledge to whip up an ebuild that could do the magic to test it out tho. Any takers ? :P Uh, what are PGO and ICC?? I also must add that I get decent performance from the fox on Ubuntu let alone Vista, which makes me take your suggestion about build parameters seriously. ICC is the Intel C compiler. Ahh.. I've heard good things about it, but I'm under the impression it is not free (as in beer). Is that true? -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD I don't know but I can emerge -q icc
[gentoo-user] Mystery: powertop shows emerge causing wake-ups, but emerge is not running.
Hi, When running powertop on an idle system, I noticed that emerge is in the list of items causing wake-ups. It is virtually always 8.0 wake-ups per 10 second sample (occasionally 8.1 wake-ups, maybe a result of rounding). It is always there. The puzzling bit is that emerge is not running at all. I do not have any cron jobs running emerge. ps aux | grep emerge shows nothing. Even when I am running emerge, even when emerge is using 100% cpu time, the emerge entry in powertop remains at 8.0. ([kernel scheduler] Load balancing tick is what represents almost all real activity.) My uname -a: Linux black 2.6.35.5 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 23 00:04:26 CDT 2010 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Using powertop-1.13 on ~amd64. Maybe powertop needs to be updated for newer kernels? Mabye emerge has an alternative meaning inside of powertop or linux kernel? A search of the source code of both don't reveal anything that I can see... Do any of you have emerge in your powertop output? Does anyone know what this means? Thanks, Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On 09/24/10 08:11, a...@sourcegarden.de wrote: On 09/22/2010 12:23 AM, Beau Henderson wrote: On 09/22/10 07:31, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 20 September 2010 16:38:05 Paul Hartman wrote: I haven't had any crashing or failing to start, but Firefox in Linux has always been pretty bad in general for me. Slow UI, unusable in NX (constant screen redraws; Thunderbird does the same thing), network stalling for MINUTES at a time, slow to load, etc. Other browsers on the same machine don't suffer any of these problems. I don't use Firefox as my primary browser because it is so flaky. That's odd, because on this newish i5 box, which is suffering really severe responsiveness problems otherwise, FF responds to my commands smartly. Firefox for windows is compiled with PGO via ICC which apparently improves performance quite a bit. I believe there are issues when firefox is compiled with GCC via PGO and in any case, there is no support for PGO building of Firefox @ gentoo afaik. I wish I had the time and knowledge to whip up an ebuild that could do the magic to test it out tho. Any takers ? :P You really think that wood change the unstable problem? -- *Sourcegarden GmbH* *HR:* B-104357 *Steuernummer:* 37/167/21214*USt-ID* DE814784953 *Geschäftsführer:* Mario Scheliga, Rene Otto *Bank:* Deutsche Bank, *BLZ:* 10070024, *KTO:* 0810929 *Adresse:* Schönhauser Allee 55, 10437 Berlin Stability, probably not. Performance, probably so. I haven't had any stability issues aside from the NSPR troubles. -- Kind Regards, Beau Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On 24 Sep 2010, at 20:15, Bill Longman wrote: ... Uh, what are PGO and ICC?? I also must add that I get decent performance from the fox on Ubuntu let alone Vista, which makes me take your suggestion about build parameters seriously. ICC is the Intel C compiler. Ahh.. I've heard good things about it, but I'm under the impression it is not free (as in beer). Is that true? I don't know but I can emerge -q icc There is other non-Free software you can install with Portage. Just yesterday I was looking at games-fps/ut2003 and games-fps/ut2004 - I believe these require the game's installer CDs to work. I would imagine that if you were to emerge ICC it would require an activation key before it would compile anything, otherwise we'd all be using it. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 24 Sep 2010, at 20:15, Bill Longman wrote: ... Uh, what are PGO and ICC?? I also must add that I get decent performance from the fox on Ubuntu let alone Vista, which makes me take your suggestion about build parameters seriously. ICC is the Intel C compiler. Ahh.. I've heard good things about it, but I'm under the impression it is not free (as in beer). Is that true? I don't know but I can emerge -q icc There is other non-Free software you can install with Portage. Just yesterday I was looking at games-fps/ut2003 and games-fps/ut2004 - I believe these require the game's installer CDs to work. I would imagine that if you were to emerge ICC it would require an activation key before it would compile anything, otherwise we'd all be using it. According to the Gentoo Wiki, a free non-commercial license is available, ICC is not fully compatible with GCC, and the list of packages that work well with ICC is rather short (though that in itself doesn't mean anything other than whoever made the wiki typed a short list). I have not personally tried it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X programs as root
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 21:18, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/22/2010 09:48 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: When I launch X programs via sudo, I get the following: $sudo gui-admin No protocol specified gui-admin: cannot connect to X server :0 ( Assume gui-admin is an X program ) But (gk|kde)su(do)? works. This is somewhat confusing. sudo doesn't keep the $DISPLAY environment variable by default. There could be other issues too. Best stick to kdesu and friends; that's what they are there for. It's the other issues. Well, I noticed after the recent upgrade to 4.5.1 that mine doesn't work either. It worked before but not now. I'm not sure what changed between 4.4 and 4.5.1 but it broke my konqueror as root and other programs as well. Still have some I haven't tried tho. Konqueror is the one I need most. Oh, I can get Dolphin to work tho. The conspiracy theory part in me is starting to think. Same here, s/konqueror/every gui program run via sudo/ Sure would like to get this working again too. Ditto. VMware tools, etc, are all gui and sometimes sudo is eaiser to use than kdesu.
[gentoo-user] Re: X programs as root
On 09/23/2010 04:18 AM, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/22/2010 09:48 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: When I launch X programs via sudo, I get the following: $sudo gui-admin No protocol specified gui-admin: cannot connect to X server :0 ( Assume gui-admin is an X program ) But (gk|kde)su(do)? works. This is somewhat confusing. sudo doesn't keep the $DISPLAY environment variable by default. There could be other issues too. Best stick to kdesu and friends; that's what they are there for. Well, I noticed after the recent upgrade to 4.5.1 that mine doesn't work either. It worked before but not now. I'm not sure what changed between 4.4 and 4.5.1 but it broke my konqueror as root and other programs as well. Still have some I haven't tried tho. Konqueror is the one I need most. Oh, I can get Dolphin to work tho. The conspiracy theory part in me is starting to think. Sure would like to get this working again too. Again, use kdesu, not sudo. But if some reason you want sudo, /etc/sudoers has some info: ## Run X applications through sudo Read the comments there and uncomment what suits you. Did I mention that you should use kdesu instead of sudo? :-P
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On 09/24/2010 06:16 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 24 Sep 2010, at 20:15, Bill Longman wrote: ... Uh, what are PGO and ICC?? I also must add that I get decent performance from the fox on Ubuntu let alone Vista, which makes me take your suggestion about build parameters seriously. ICC is the Intel C compiler. Ahh.. I've heard good things about it, but I'm under the impression it is not free (as in beer). Is that true? I don't know but I can emerge -q icc There is other non-Free software you can install with Portage. Just yesterday I was looking at games-fps/ut2003 and games-fps/ut2004 - I believe these require the game's installer CDs to work. I would imagine that if you were to emerge ICC it would require an activation key before it would compile anything, otherwise we'd all be using it. According to the Gentoo Wiki, a free non-commercial license is available, ICC is not fully compatible with GCC, and the list of packages that work well with ICC is rather short (though that in itself doesn't mean anything other than whoever made the wiki typed a short list). I have not personally tried it. AMD users may wish to confirm that ICC no longer cripples its output for non-Intel chips: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_C%2B%2B_Compiler#Criticism
[gentoo-user] iwl5000 firmware fails to load
Folks, I am having a fairly strange problem with my iwl5000 and the microcode. After a fresh install Gentoo install wireless works with no issues. Upon installing a set that includes xorg, Firefox, hal, VirtualBox, etc. the wireless ceases to work. Check out a snippet from my dmesg: ~ % dmesg | grep -i iwl iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, in-tree:d iwlagn: Copyright(c) 2003-2010 Intel Corporation iwlagn :03:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17 iwlagn :03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 iwlagn :03:00.0: Detected Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN, REV=0x54 iwlagn :03:00.0: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 24 802.11a channels iwlagn :03:00.0: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode' failed. iwlagn :03:00.0: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode' failed. iwlagn :03:00.0: no suitable firmware found! iwlagn :03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled Re-emerging the microcode, wpa_supplicant, wireless-tools, etc. doesn't seem to do anything. The wireless still doesn't work. These files *do* exist where they belong (/lib/firmware). Once I emerge the set (below), a reload then results in the error(s) above. Google didn't reveal much. Any thoughts / ideas on how to troubleshoot this would be appreciated. Thanks! -james --8-- full set below app-cdr/xfburn app-editors/mousepad app-emulation/virtualbox-bin mail-client/mutt mail-client/thunderbird net-analyzer/tcpdump net-analyzer/wireshark net-im/pidgin net-news/liferea x11-plugins/pidgin-musictracker x11-plugins/pidgin-extprefs x11-plugins/pidgin-otr x11-plugins/pidgin-encryption net-print/xfprint sys-apps/hal www-client/firefox x11-base/xorg-drivers x11-base/xorg-x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel x11-terms/xterm x11-themes/echo-icon-theme x11-themes/human-icon-theme x11-themes/iceicons x11-themes/tangerine-icon-theme x11-themes/tango-icon-theme x11-themes/tango-icon-theme-extras x11-themes/wm-icons x11-themes/xfce-gant-icon-theme x11-themes/xfwm4-themes x11-wm/compiz-fusion xfce-base/thunar xfce-base/xfce4-meta xfce-extra/thunar-archive-plugin xfce-extra/thunar-thumbnailers xfce-extra/thunar-volman xfce-extra/xfce4-battery-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-taskmanager xfce-extra/xfce4-verve-plugin
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.ukwrote: On 24 Sep 2010, at 20:15, Bill Longman wrote: ... Uh, what are PGO and ICC?? I also must add that I get decent performance from the fox on Ubuntu let alone Vista, which makes me take your suggestion about build parameters seriously. ICC is the Intel C compiler. Ahh.. I've heard good things about it, but I'm under the impression it is not free (as in beer). Is that true? I don't know but I can emerge -q icc There is other non-Free software you can install with Portage. Just yesterday I was looking at games-fps/ut2003 and games-fps/ut2004 - I believe these require the game's installer CDs to work. I would imagine that if you were to emerge ICC it would require an activation key before it would compile anything, otherwise we'd all be using it. Stroller. Wouldn't that be kind of senseless since the source code is distributed? Knowing it would not be hard to bypass the activation key, if they wanted money for it they wouldn't let the source code out, license or no license. Just my $.02 ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X programs as root
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/23/2010 04:18 AM, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/22/2010 09:48 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: When I launch X programs via sudo, I get the following: $sudo gui-admin No protocol specified gui-admin: cannot connect to X server :0 ( Assume gui-admin is an X program ) But (gk|kde)su(do)? works. This is somewhat confusing. sudo doesn't keep the $DISPLAY environment variable by default. There could be other issues too. Best stick to kdesu and friends; that's what they are there for. Well, I noticed after the recent upgrade to 4.5.1 that mine doesn't work either. It worked before but not now. I'm not sure what changed between 4.4 and 4.5.1 but it broke my konqueror as root and other programs as well. Still have some I haven't tried tho. Konqueror is the one I need most. Oh, I can get Dolphin to work tho. The conspiracy theory part in me is starting to think. Sure would like to get this working again too. Again, use kdesu, not sudo. But if some reason you want sudo, /etc/sudoers has some info: ## Run X applications through sudo Read the comments there and uncomment what suits you. Did I mention that you should use kdesu instead of sudo? :-P Well, I don't really know what it is using. I just set up the menu item to run the program as root. I don't know if it uses su -, kdesu, sudo or what. I just know it worked until the upgrade a few days ago. Since KDE proclaimed this was supposed to be ready for widespread use and cut off KDE3, I sure do wish they would make up their mind HOW things are going to work. I would think they need to know that before claiming something was ready for widespread use. Makes me want to go back to KDE 3.5. At least I could get everything I need to work and survive a upgrade too. ;-) Oh well. This is the new normal for KDE I guess. lol Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Dropbox, cli, and all that
I have recently discovered Dropbox as an interesting thing to experiment with, not without its drawbacks, but interesting. I have it running on a work Mac laptop and an Android phone, and it is another interesting idea to put it on Linux. However, its downloads are for Fedora and Ubuntu, or a source file which requires Nautilus. Also, I don't want its daemon running constantly, altho that feature is part of what makes it interesting wth the laptop and phone. Searches bring up various pages, but nothing really promising, either old or rather convulated or still using Mautilus. One involves a python script which apparently runs the command over and over, each time creating one more fake lib to make up for the Fedora/Ubunto ones required. No thanks ... while an interesting hack, it's not my idea of a way to the future :-) So the question is ... does anyone have experience with Dropbox on gentoo? My system is ~amd64, running fvwm when necessary, neither KDE nor Gnome. I'd really like a command line program which I could run for manual syncing. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Dropbox, cli, and all that
On 24 September 2010 21:11, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: So the question is ... does anyone have experience with Dropbox on gentoo? My system is ~amd64, running fvwm when necessary, neither KDE nor Gnome. I'd really like a command line program which I could run for manual syncing. I'm using nautilus-dropbox. It's working fine, not the slightest problem. I rarely use Nautilus, though. All access is through the CLI. If you don't want the daemon running all the time then don't start it automatically. You can use dropbox start and dropbox stop to start/stop the daemon whenever you want to.
Re: [gentoo-user] Dropbox, cli, and all that
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 09:43:11PM -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: I'm using nautilus-dropbox. It's working fine, not the slightest problem. I rarely use Nautilus, though. All access is through the CLI. If you don't want the daemon running all the time then don't start it automatically. You can use dropbox start and dropbox stop to start/stop the daemon whenever you want to. But it requires Nautlis ... did you compile from source, or install the Ubuntu or Fedora package? I tried building the source, and it complained No package 'libnautilus-extension' found Emerge tells me I need 18 packages to install Nautilus. I don't have Gnome or KDE installed and I don't want them; I'm not philosopically opposed to them, but I got tired of all the regular emerge problems being added to for something I never use. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Dropbox, cli, and all that
On 24 September 2010 21:58, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 09:43:11PM -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: I'm using nautilus-dropbox. It's working fine, not the slightest problem. I rarely use Nautilus, though. All access is through the CLI. If you don't want the daemon running all the time then don't start it automatically. You can use dropbox start and dropbox stop to start/stop the daemon whenever you want to. But it requires Nautlis ... did you compile from source, or install the Ubuntu or Fedora package? I tried building the source, and it complained No package 'libnautilus-extension' found Emerge tells me I need 18 packages to install Nautilus. I don't have Gnome or KDE installed and I don't want them; I'm not philosopically opposed to them, but I got tired of all the regular emerge problems being added to for something I never use. I don't really remember but I have nautilus-dropbox installed so I suppose I used that. I also use KDE and apparently some Gnome stuff so it was not such a big deal for me. It didn't want to install Mono which is where I draw the line. :-) I do understand your reluctance to install lots of packages you don't really need but I'm afraid I can't help you there. Perhaps you can see if it's possible to just install libnautilus-extension? As far as I can tell, things work fine from the CLI. There does not appear to be any real dependency on Nautilus.
