[gentoo-user] Fluxbox + Bbpager : weird problem

2010-11-06 Thread Philip Webb
I'm a happy user of Fluxbox  recently thought it mb nice to have a pager
to jump quickly to another desktop; Bbpager seems adequate  works well.
However, I can't get it to start directly after (re-)booting,
but have to do 'startx' twice, after which it appears in the slit.
I put it in the 'startup' file, where Gkrellm resides  starts properly;
putting it in '.xinitrc' doesn't seem to get it to start at all.

Can anyone offer an explanation ?

BTW is there any way to get it (or Fbpager) to start in the toolbar ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up two monitors

2010-11-06 Thread YoYo Siska
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 09:38:07PM +, Mick wrote:
 On Friday 05 November 2010 11:11:04 YoYo Siska wrote:
  On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 11:08:23PM +, Mick wrote:
   On Thursday 04 November 2010 21:36:46 Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 04.11.2010 21:17, schrieb Mick:
[...]

 Then I ran xrandr again as Florian suggested and this is what it
 shows:
 
 $ xrandr --output DVI-0 --auto  --this gives 1920x1080
 $ xrandr --output DVI-0 --right-of-VGA-0 --verbose
 xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1920x1920 (desired size
 3200x1080)
 
 As a result it does not place the DVI on the right of the VGA driven
 monitor. Can you please explain this error to me - why does it
 complain?

Hmm, do you still have an xorg.conf file or changed settings in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d? If you have, can you post it please?

I think it is related to the
'SubSection Device

Virtual xdim ydim'

setting but I'm not sure. In any case, if I were you, I'd try running
without any xorg.conf and see whether auto-configuration can handle it.
Oh, and if you are still on x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.*, please try
x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.2 with USE=udev -hal
   
   Thanks again Florian,
   
   I do not have an xorg.conf.  I am running x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.7-r1. 
   I have been waiting on 1.8.2 to go stable.
   
   Googling around I suspect I know what the error is:
   
   $ xrandr -q
   Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1920 x 1920
   
   is telling me that my ATI X600 can only do a max of 1920 x 1920.  Above
   that I will need to set up a virtual screen (and it won't be able to do
   dri).
   
   Without an xorg.conf file it is failing because it is not given a virtual
   screen to expand its physical capability beyond 1920x1920.  Any idea if I
   can set up a virtual screen using the .fdi files?
  
  Intel drivers (for my thinkpad notebook) had a similar problem. If you
  didn't use an xorg.conf, they would set up the max screen size to the
  maximum possible resolution on one of the monitors... I haven't found a
  way to change that without an xorg.conf... (didn't have much motivation
  as I just always used an xorg.conf, event with hal... and I'm on ~arch,
  so its not much of an issue now...)
  
  yoyo
  
  
  PS right now, the current intel driver I have seems to have a hard maximum
  of 2048x2048 on my card, though I remember going above that in the
  past... ;((
 
 (I was wondering how come MSWindows works fine - not sure if it uses virtual 
 screens ...)
 
 Are you saying that the maximum mode of the video card is determined by the 
 driver?  Two different ati cards here, both show 1920x1920 as the maximum.  
 The card I am having this problem with has 256M memory.  The other has 1G 
 memory (in MSWindows) while Gentoo only shows:
 
   Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
   I/O ports at 2000 [size=256]
   Memory at cfef (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
   [virtual] Expansion ROM at cfe0 [disabled] [size=128K]
 
 If the maximum mode available changes with the driver version, does this mean 
 that one day I need to set up a virtual screen size and next day the driver 
 is 
 updated and virtual screen is no longer required?

From what I know (but I may be completely wrong ;) its this way:
the maximum size xrandr reports is what X thinks is the maximum possible
framebuffer size... Its reported by the graphics card driver, which (I
think) should be the maximum resolution the graphics card supports.
This depends on the card, the amount of memory it has (which gets a bit
complicated with cards with shared memory, that can dynamically allocate
how much they actually need) etc...

AFAIK this value is constant for X (it can't change without restart),
and X will never allow you to have a large 'virtual screen' (i.e.
the space in which all outputs have to fit)

But I've seen drivers that don't report the maximum they support, but
the maximum resolution of the actually connected display:
The driver should report to X, what display devices are connected to
the card and which resolutions they support -- the things you see in
xrandr output. It seems that that some drivers report the maximum of
these resolutions (ati and older intel, though newer  intel drivers seem to
report 2048x2048 or 4096x4096, I can't say for newer ati, as I don't
have an ati card...)

I guess that this is mostly a 'historical' issue from the times when
Xserver/drivers did not support 'dynamic' monitor configuration (ie
adding/removing monitors) without restarting the Xserver...

You can override this value with the Virtual option (It used to be in
the screen section of xorg.conf, now the correct place seems to be in
the Device section).
 
IIRC, the driver will still change it to the maximum it supports, if you
made it bigger, but not to the maximum resolution of the connected
displays ;) Also, some 

Re: [gentoo-user] Mystery square under KDE

2010-11-06 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 06.11.2010 05:38, schrieb Andrew Lowe:
 Hi all,
 I've got KDE set up in a twin head configuration with the menu/task

Are both heads running at the same resolution or is the second smaller?
Whenever I tried to setup a dualhead-setup (xaphod-style not a big
screen with xrender) I had a similar problem when the second screen was
smaller then the main-screen.

Looks much like a bug to me.
Could you give more information about your twin head configuration?

Greetings

Sebastian Beßler




Re: [gentoo-user] Updating a profile from 2005

2010-11-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:36:01 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:

 Performing Global Updates:
 (Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
 
 
.='update pass'  *='binary update'  #='/var/db update'  @='/var/db
 move' s='/var/db SLOT move'  %='binary move'  S='binary SLOT move'
p='update /etc/portage/package.*'
 /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2005
 .
 .
 .
 .
 ..
 /usr/portage/profiles/updates/4Q-2010
 #
 
 
   * An update to portage is available. It is _highly_ recommended
 ...
 ...
 ...
 *
 
   The question is: Should a profile from 2005 be
 updated as well? I built this machine from scratch about 6 months ago
 so there wasn't something like a favourite config I brought across
 from another machine. Is this normal behaviour? Should I be worried?
 Should I zealously try and track this down and kill it or should I let
 bygones be bygones?

Why are you running a 2005 profile? I don't think that was even available
six months ago. emerge --info will tell you which profile you are
actually using, but if portage tells you to it needs updating, it is
usually right.


-- 
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A closed mouth gathers no foot.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mystery square under KDE

2010-11-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote:
 Hi all,
        I've got KDE set up in a twin head configuration with the menu/task
 manager thingy set for autohide on the top edge of the LHS monitor. When I
 move the mouse up to the top of the screen to display the task
 manager/kicker, as well as the menu displaying, I also get a large
 translucent rectangle showing. The task manager shows and it is of the depth
 you would expect, the height of a character plus appropriate padding, but as
 well as this I get this translucent rectangle showing which is about 2/3
 screen depth and 2/3 screen width in size. This is displayed as long as the
 task manager is displayed - move the mouse away from the task manager and
 the task manager disappears, and so does the mystery rectangle, move the
 mouse back to display the task manager and the rectangle comes back.

 There is a screen grab here www.wht.com.au/dodgyMenu.png. Has anyone any
 thoughts on how to get rid of the mystery rectangle?

        Any thoughts greatly appreciated,

                Andrew

I have a machine with an ATI 5770 in it. It does a few things like
this with the default KDE theme. It does fewer things with other
themes. (It's not perfect with any theme!)

Try another theme?

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up two monitors

2010-11-06 Thread Mick
Thank you all for your pointers!  It works (almost) with
xorg-server-1.9.2.  More questions below ...

On 6 November 2010 09:57, YoYo Siska y...@gl.ksp.sk wrote:

 You can read more about xrandr at http://www.x.org/wiki/Projects/XRandR

 For your last question: right now, yes. The drivers are changing... But
 hopefully, they will get to a state, when they will report everything
 corectly and you should not need to set anything... ;))

With the xorg-server-1.9.2 and a different kernel driver it now
recognises much more real estate:

$ xrandr -q
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3200 x 1080, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA-0 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y
axis) 359mm x 287mm
   1280x1024  75.0*+   60.0
   1152x864   75.0
   1024x768   85.0 75.1 70.1 60.0
   832x62474.6
   800x60085.1 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
   640x48085.0 72.8 75.0 66.7 60.0
   720x40070.1
DVI-0 connected 1920x1080+1280+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y
axis) 509mm x 286mm
   1920x1080  60.0*+
   1280x1024  75.0 60.0
   1152x864   75.0
   1024x768   75.1 60.0
   800x60075.0 60.3
   640x48075.0 60.0
   720x40070.1
S-video disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

As you can see the maximum size has now grown to 4906 x 4096 which
allows me to have the two monitors set up as intended with space to
spare!  :-)

No need to define virtual screen size in the xorg.conf, which I
generated using the vanilla X -configure output.  I have not added a
second screen or anything else.  The -configure script seems to have
only included my small monitor on the left and it does not mention at
all the new DVI.  So, I suspect that all the hard work is performed by
the kernel hardware driver ...

Which brings me to the changes I had to perform on the kernel.  The
only combination that would allow the above to work involved
rebuilding the kernel with CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS=y

This caused its own problems - I could not get a framebuffer working
during boot and afterwards I could not get a kdm Display Manager
showing up.  It dropped me back to console.  Ctrl+Alt+F7 was not
advisable as it locked the machine up, as did restarting xdm.  The
solution was to remove uvesa framebuffer from my kernel and also
remove the following lines from my grub.conf:

#video=uvesafb:mtrr,ywrap,1024x768...@64
splash=silent,fadein,theme:emergence quiet CONSOLE=/dev/tty1

Now I get a framebuffer with all my boot messages, but do not get a
pretty framebuffer splash or whatever you call it these days.

The second problem is that although the screen settings can be applied
and take without any problem, they are not retained if I log
out/reboot.

So, two questions remain:

1.  Is there a way of setting up a framebuffer splash with a progress
bar and a background image in non-verbose mode when using the new KMS
kernel option?

2.  How can I save the screen settings so that they persist between
boots?  I found a script mentioning setting up a configuration file in
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/45custom_xrandr-settings:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2#Now_automate_it_on_login

but I am not sure if this is a Gentoo compatible way (have not tried it yet).
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB

2010-11-06 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:


I noticed something on mine when I did that.  I was actually doing the 
command in a Konsole.  It seemed to mess up again later on.  It got 
REALLY slow.  I decided to do things differently.  I logged out of 
KDE, went to single user mode, typed in the command to set opengl to 
nvidia, then went back to default runlevel and logged in.  It worked 
fine and has ever since.  I have logged out several times, been 
experimenting with fluxbox, and it is still fast as it was.  So, it 
may be best to run that when logged out of a GUI at least but I went 
to single user just to be certain.  I would think that stopping xdm 
would work just as well but one never knows about these things.


Maybe that will help.  Never hurts to hope.

Dale

:-)  :-)



This is getting weird.  I haven't rebooted in a few weeks now.  I tried 
to watch a video a bit ago and it was slow again.  It was down to about 
2 or 3 frames per second.  It is awful.  If I go tell it to switch to 
opengl, it gets fast again but after a while it will go back to being 
really slow.  Why do I have to keep telling it to use nvidia's opengl 
when it says it is using it and I have switched to a few times?  If it 
is using it, why does it slow down until I tell it to switch?


I did do a huge KDE upgrade the other day.  I don't recall seeing 
anything else X related being updated but I could have missed something 
in that LONG list.  I did do a baselayout upgrade and portage itself has 
been upgraded a few times.


Any ideas on why this thing keeps doing this?  Would a reboot even help 
in this situation?


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Updating a profile from 2005

2010-11-06 Thread Andrew Lowe

On 11/06/10 20:30, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:36:01 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:


Performing Global Updates:
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)


.='update pass'  *='binary update'  #='/var/db update'  @='/var/db
move' s='/var/db SLOT move'  %='binary move'  S='binary SLOT move'
p='update /etc/portage/package.*'
/usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2005
.
.
.
.
..
/usr/portage/profiles/updates/4Q-2010
#


   * An update to portage is available. It is _highly_ recommended
...
...
...
*

The question is: Should a profile from 2005 be
updated as well? I built this machine from scratch about 6 months ago
so there wasn't something like a favourite config I brought across
from another machine. Is this normal behaviour? Should I be worried?
Should I zealously try and track this down and kill it or should I let
bygones be bygones?


Why are you running a 2005 profile? I don't think that was even available
six months ago. emerge --info will tell you which profile you are
actually using, but if portage tells you to it needs updating, it is
usually right.




Neil,
	Simple answer to your first question, I'm not - well I didn't do 
anything to ask for a profile from 2005. As I said, this thing was built 
form scratch, using an install disk downloaded about 6 months ago, I did 
nothing such as bringing across old configs/profiles, this thing has 
just showed up.


Is the first line of emerge --info,

Portage 2.1.9.24 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/kde, gcc-4.4.5, 
glibc-2.12.1-r1, 2.6.35-gentoo-r9 x86_64)


the line that will tell me which profile I'm running? As I said, I've, 
not knowingly, done anything to make this profile appear, it's just 
appeared. In the dir /usr/portage/profiles/updates, there are a whole 
series of profile file. Do all of these need to exist? Should I get rid 
of all of them, except for the current?


Andrew




Re: [gentoo-user] Updating a profile from 2005

2010-11-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 November 2010 04:36:01 Andrew Lowe wrote:
 Hi all,
   I've just done an
 
 emerge --sync
 
   ad got, along with all the usual stuff, the following:
 
 *
 ...
 ...
 ...
 Performing Global Updates:
 (Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
 
 
.='update pass'  *='binary update'  #='/var/db update'  @='/var/db move'
s='/var/db SLOT move'  %='binary move'  S='binary SLOT move'
p='update /etc/portage/package.*'
 /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2005
 .
 .
 .
 .
 ..
 /usr/portage/profiles/updates/4Q-2010
 #
 
 
   * An update to portage is available. It is _highly_ recommended
 ...
 ...
 ...
 *
 
   The question is: Should a profile from 2005 be updated as well? I built
 this machine from scratch about 6 months ago so there wasn't something
 like a favourite config I brought across from another machine. Is this
 normal behaviour? Should I be worried? Should I zealously try and track
 this down and kill it or should I let bygones be bygones?
 
   Any thoughts greatly appreciated,

I can't really answer your question (other than your may have used a really 
old install CD).

You could check to see which make.profile your /etc/make.profile is symlinked 
to.  For example:

# ls -la /etc/make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Jun  8 20:36 /etc/make.profile - 
../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop

Or you can try the eselect tool to list/set a suitable profile; e.g.:

# eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   default/linux/amd64/10.0
  [2]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop *
  [3]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/gnome
  [4]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/kde
  [5]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/developer
  [6]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/no-multilib
  [7]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/server
  [8]   hardened/linux/amd64/10.0
  [9]   hardened/linux/amd64/10.0/no-multilib
  [10]  selinux/2007.0/amd64
  [11]  selinux/2007.0/amd64/hardened
  [12]  selinux/v2refpolicy/amd64
  [13]  selinux/v2refpolicy/amd64/desktop
  [14]  selinux/v2refpolicy/amd64/developer
  [15]  selinux/v2refpolicy/amd64/hardened
  [16]  selinux/v2refpolicy/amd64/server

HTH.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox + Bbpager : weird problem

2010-11-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 November 2010 09:19:49 Philip Webb wrote:
 I'm a happy user of Fluxbox  recently thought it mb nice to have a pager
 to jump quickly to another desktop; Bbpager seems adequate  works well.
 However, I can't get it to start directly after (re-)booting,
 but have to do 'startx' twice, after which it appears in the slit.
 I put it in the 'startup' file, where Gkrellm resides  starts properly;
 putting it in '.xinitrc' doesn't seem to get it to start at all.
 
 Can anyone offer an explanation ?
 
 BTW is there any way to get it (or Fbpager) to start in the toolbar ?

I can't answer your question because I have never used a pager with FB.  I 
usually scroll on the screen with my mouse to change desktops.  Can't recall 
if Alt+arrow will also flick between desktops, but I'm sure there's a shortcut 
to it.

I have found that FB is a bit temperamental with how it displays docapps.  The 
order can be random at times.  It may be that Bbpager/Fbpager show up but are 
rendered underneath the Gkrellm and therefore you can't see them.  When you 
restart they may be already in memory or their config file is cached and they 
start faster.  I know that they should be stacked, but I have seen some odd 
behaviour with apps in the slit over the years.

HTH.
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Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating a profile from 2005

2010-11-06 Thread Stroller

On 6/11/2010, at 3:56pm, Andrew Lowe wrote:
 ...
 Portage 2.1.9.24 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/kde, gcc-4.4.5, 
 glibc-2.12.1-r1, 2.6.35-gentoo-r9 x86_64)

Considering that, you should be perfectly safe to update to the current profile 
(as explained by Mick in his message of 40 minutes ago) and `emerge --update -p 
world`.

If your system hasn't been updated in 6 months then look out for the libpng 
update:
http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2010/06/29/stable-users-libpng-update

 the line that will tell me which profile I'm running? As I said, I've, not 
 knowingly, done anything to make this profile appear, it's just appeared.

This is somewhat inexplicable.

 In the dir /usr/portage/profiles/updates, there are a whole series of profile 
 file. Do all of these need to exist? Should I get rid of all of them, except 
 for the current?

Nope, these are generated by `emerge sync` - old ones will be deleted 
automagically when you update (which is why it's so confusing you have a 2005 
profile configured). You just need to change to the current one and update 
world.

BTW: I assume you're new to Gentoo, because most everything in /usr/portage/ is 
managed by Portage, and this directory tree needs little maintenance or 
intervention. The only exceptions are /usr/portage/packages and 
/usr/portage/distfiles - `emerge gentoolkit` and run `eclean` a couple of times 
a year.

Generally speaking you should be running `emerge --update world` about every 
week or every month - after 2 months or more the update becomes a bit more of a 
chore, and if you leave it as long as 6 months you're pretty much sure to 
encounter problems like this one with the libpng update, but not always be so 
well documented.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Updating a profile from 2005

2010-11-06 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Andrew Lowe schrieb am 06.11.2010 16:56:
 On 11/06/10 20:30, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:36:01 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:

 .='update pass'  *='binary update'  #='/var/db update'  @='/var/db
 move' s='/var/db SLOT move'  %='binary move'  S='binary SLOT move'
 p='update /etc/portage/package.*'
 /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2005
 .
 .
 .
 .
 ..
 /usr/portage/profiles/updates/4Q-2010

These are normal messages you receive if there are ebuilds moved around
or slots for ebuilds change within the portage tree. It has nothing to
do with the profile you are running.

Portage saves all data for installed packages in a database under
/var/db/pkg. Lets say you have installed dev-lang/toluapp. Recently this
package has been moved to dev-lua/toluapp. The information about this
package is now wrong and needs to be fixed. This is what happened here.
It also takes care about existing binary packages. So there is nothing
to worry about.

Just take a look at these files and you will find lines like:
slotmove sys-libs/libchipcard 2 0
move dev-lang/toluapp dev-lua/toluapp
It just informs portage about the changes, so it can fix it in the database.

* An update to portage is available. It is _highly_ recommended

A new version of portage is available and you should update to that new
version.

 Is the first line of emerge --info,
 
 Portage 2.1.9.24 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/kde, gcc-4.4.5,
 glibc-2.12.1-r1, 2.6.35-gentoo-r9 x86_64)

Yes this is the profile you are running and it is the most recent, so no
need to change anything here. You are not running the 2005 profile,
which would be strange as it has been removed long ago.

-- 
Daniel Pielmeier



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB

2010-11-06 Thread Robin Atwood
On Saturday 06 November 2010, Dale wrote:
 Dale wrote:

 This is getting weird.  I haven't rebooted in a few weeks now.  I tried
 to watch a video a bit ago and it was slow again.  It was down to about
 2 or 3 frames per second.  It is awful.  If I go tell it to switch to
 opengl, it gets fast again but after a while it will go back to being
 really slow.  Why do I have to keep telling it to use nvidia's opengl
 when it says it is using it and I have switched to a few times?  If it
 is using it, why does it slow down until I tell it to switch?
 
 I did do a huge KDE upgrade the other day.  I don't recall seeing
 anything else X related being updated but I could have missed something
 in that LONG list.  I did do a baselayout upgrade and portage itself has
 been upgraded a few times.
 
 Any ideas on why this thing keeps doing this?  Would a reboot even help
 in this situation?

When it gets very slow start up top and see what's using the CPU. My bet is 
the Xserver. I have a GeForce 9400 GT 512MB and the xserver will happily use 
90% while nothing much is happening. Start a KDE4 app which constantly updates 
(ktorrent, kps are good 3rd party examples) and the xserver goes crazy.

HTH
-Robin
-- 
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 Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating a profile from 2005

2010-11-06 Thread Andrew Lowe

On 11/07/10 02:57, Stroller wrote:


On 6/11/2010, at 3:56pm, Andrew Lowe wrote:

... Portage 2.1.9.24 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/kde,
gcc-4.4.5, glibc-2.12.1-r1, 2.6.35-gentoo-r9 x86_64)


Considering that, you should be perfectly safe to update to the
current profile (as explained by Mick in his message of 40 minutes
ago) and `emerge --update -p world`.

If your system hasn't been updated in 6 months then look out for the
libpng update:
http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2010/06/29/stable-users-libpng-update


	No, you've misunderstood. The machine was built about 6 months ago but 
has had emerge -NuD world run probably a dozen times in this 
intervening time.





the line that will tell me which profile I'm running? As I said,
I've, not knowingly, done anything to make this profile appear,
it's just appeared.


This is somewhat inexplicable.


In the dir /usr/portage/profiles/updates, there are a whole series
of profile file. Do all of these need to exist? Should I get rid of
all of them, except for the current?


Nope, these are generated by `emerge sync` - old ones will be deleted
automagically when you update (which is why it's so confusing you
have a 2005 profile configured). You just need to change to the
current one and update world.


a...@bluey ~ $ eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   default/linux/amd64/10.0
  [2]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop
  [3]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/gnome
  [4]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/kde *
  [5]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/developer
  [6]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/no-multilib
  [7]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/server
  [8]   hardened/linux/amd64/10.0
  [9]   hardened/linux/amd64/10.0/no-multilib
  [10]  selinux/2007.0/amd64
  [11]  selinux/2007.0/amd64/hardened
  [12]  selinux/v2refpolicy/amd64
  [13]  selinux/v2refpolicy/amd64/desktop
  [14]  selinux/v2refpolicy/amd64/developer
  [15]  selinux/v2refpolicy/amd64/hardened
  [16]  selinux/v2refpolicy/amd64/server

This is what I get from eselect. Once again, I haven't changed any 
profiles, this is how it was before the 2005 profile appeared.




BTW: I assume you're new to Gentoo, because most everything in


Yes and no. Just had a look at forums.gentoo.org, I registered there in 
2002, but my use has been sporadic. Now about to do a PhD in 
Computational Fluid Dynamics and will be using my Gentoo box to run the 
apps so will be using it a bit more now :)



/usr/portage/ is managed by Portage, and this directory tree needs
little maintenance or intervention. The only exceptions are
/usr/portage/packages and /usr/portage/distfiles - `emerge
gentoolkit` and run `eclean` a couple of times a year.

Generally speaking you should be running `emerge --update world`
about every week or every month - after 2 months or more the update
becomes a bit more of a chore, and if you leave it as long as 6
months you're pretty much sure to encounter problems like this one
with the libpng update, but not always be so well documented.



	Nothing new here, I've done all these things. As I seem to be already 
doing the stuff people suggest, and as everything is working and nothing 
seems harmed by the 2005 profile, just leave it and hopefully it will 
disappear - correct?


Andrew




Stroller.








Re: [gentoo-user] Updating a profile from 2005

2010-11-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 04:15:48 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:

 This is what I get from eselect. Once again, I haven't changed any 
 profiles, this is how it was before the 2005 profile appeared.

You don't have a 2005 profile available, let alone selected. The message
related to renamed packages, and when they were renamed, your profile is
fine.


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[gentoo-user] Can't save the font configuration in qtconfig

2010-11-06 Thread Thomas Yao
Hi all , I'm having this headache , some characters in qt applications
display as blocks , you can see the screenshot from the attachment
And the problem is I don't know how configure the font of qt
application , qtconfig doesn't work at all

I change the font setting in qtconfig and save the configuration but
next time I open it I'll find that the configuration didn't change at
all

So , I want to know what to do with it , thank you very much!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox + Bbpager : weird problem

2010-11-06 Thread Philip Webb
101106 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 06 November 2010 09:19:49 Philip Webb wrote:
 I'm a happy user of Fluxbox  Bbpager works well with it.
 However, I can't get it to start directly after (re-)booting,
 but have to do 'startx' twice, after which it appears in the slit.
 I put it in the 'startup' file, where Gkrellm resides  starts properly;
 putting it in '.xinitrc' doesn't seem to get it to start at all.
 I can't answer your question because I have never used a pager with FB.
 I usually scroll on the screen with my mouse to change desktops.

Yes, I have mouse-scroll set to change desktop on background or titlebar.

 I have found that FB is a bit temperamental with how it displays docapps.
 The order can be random at times.  It may be that Bbpager/Fbpager show up
 but are rendered underneath the Gkrellm and therefore you can't see them.
 When you restart they may be already in memory
 or their config file is cached and they start faster.
 I know that they should be stacked,
 but I've seen some odd behaviour with apps in the slit over the years.

Thanks: at least it's good to know I'm not alone (wry smile).

Putting Bbpager 1st in the list above Gkrellm makes no difference.
I tried increasing the 'sleep' line in 'startup' to  5 sec
 that causes a blank slit bar to appear across the screen bottom.

Any further thoughts from anyone are welcome.

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