Re: [gentoo-user] Fails to login with no network connected/setup
William Kenworthy wrote: I am having problems logging into a laptop (gdm) after its moved to a new network. Its fine once its setup on the network in question, but if I hibernate it then resume with it either not connected at all, or connected to a new network (but not configured for it) it takes so long to login to X via gdm it times out. Its a 6+ year old install, but up to date otherwise (just did a major update which is when this started - nearly 400 packages so no idea what might have done it). All logins are local and no network should be required. GDM looks to be correct (and hasnt changed) Where should I look? - its obviously trying to do something on the network but cant access it until its properly up and I need to login to get the network up after moving it. I can get into a console and run things manually, after which its fine, but that misses the point :) BillK If I recall correctly, this is a DNS issue. I tried to search my old emails for this but can't find the thread. I did find this on the forums tho: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5409131.html#5409131 Sounds weird at first but if it works, weird is OK too. ;-) Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels
Disk /dev/sdb: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes A small caveat -- if this is an advanced format drive be sure to use fdisk in sector mode (fdisk -uc) and start the first partition on a sector number which is a multiple of 8. (Yes, I know it says 512 bytes physical sector size above, but all five of my 1TB AF WD greens happily advertise a 512 byte physical sector size) Ok now I was going to use same reiserfs no big deal unless I can use reiser4? good idea? discuss-caveats Assuming you care about your data, my advice is to drop reiserfs for everything but unimportant, easily replaceable stuff (like /usr/portage). Reiserfs undoubtedly has performance advantages in some areas, but its structure is more prone to damage and it has lousy fs utils. Ext4 might be slower at times but it is backed by a very well tested and maintained fsck. Reiser4? Not a chance in hell. Just replace /dev/sdb1 with LABEL=boot Small caveat: labels in /etc/fstab are ok (even for swap partitions, just create them with mkswap -L), but you must still use a device name in the root parameter on the kernel command line. Labels/UUIDs are not supported there. Another approach (less readable but arguably less easy to break) is using UUID= You can find these out with dumpe2fs. I guess something similar exists for reiserfs, as well. or just ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=32768 Definitely not. Sure, you can grow the fs to fill the partition aftwerwards (resize2fs or its reiser equivalent), but you will be wasting time and taking unnecessary risks. Boot from a livecd, create a new filesystem on the target, mount both filesystems and use rsync -aHPv /path/to/old/mountpoint/ /path/to/new/mountpoint/ or simply tar c /path/to/old/ | tar xvp /path/to/new rsync can show you the progress of the operation, which is nice, but it is not available on all live cds (for example, gentoo-minimal did not ship with it last time I checked). If you use rsync, pay special attention to the -H option as -a (archive mode) does not preserve hard links by default. HTH, andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
Am 18.11.2010 02:46, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2010-11-18, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what the devs do. Google doesn't seem to know what OYFEAL means. Do we get any hints? Google says this: OYFEAL: Open your fscking eyes and look
Re: [gentoo-user] Fails to login with no network connected/setup
On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 02:38 -0600, Dale wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: I am having problems logging into a laptop (gdm) after its moved to a new network. Its fine once its setup on the network in question, but if I hibernate it then resume with it either not connected at all, or connected to a new network (but not configured for it) it takes so long to login to X via gdm it times out. Its a 6+ year old install, but up to date otherwise (just did a major update which is when this started - nearly 400 packages so no idea what might have done it). All logins are local and no network should be required. GDM looks to be correct (and hasnt changed) Where should I look? - its obviously trying to do something on the network but cant access it until its properly up and I need to login to get the network up after moving it. I can get into a console and run things manually, after which its fine, but that misses the point :) BillK If I recall correctly, this is a DNS issue. I tried to search my old emails for this but can't find the thread. I did find this on the forums tho: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5409131.html#5409131 Sounds weird at first but if it works, weird is OK too. ;-) Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) Thanks Dale, looks like thats the trick. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Fails to login with no network connected/setup
William Kenworthy wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 02:38 -0600, Dale wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: I am having problems logging into a laptop (gdm) after its moved to a new network. Its fine once its setup on the network in question, but if I hibernate it then resume with it either not connected at all, or connected to a new network (but not configured for it) it takes so long to login to X via gdm it times out. Its a 6+ year old install, but up to date otherwise (just did a major update which is when this started - nearly 400 packages so no idea what might have done it). All logins are local and no network should be required. GDM looks to be correct (and hasnt changed) Where should I look? - its obviously trying to do something on the network but cant access it until its properly up and I need to login to get the network up after moving it. I can get into a console and run things manually, after which its fine, but that misses the point :) BillK If I recall correctly, this is a DNS issue. I tried to search my old emails for this but can't find the thread. I did find this on the forums tho: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5409131.html#5409131 Sounds weird at first but if it works, weird is OK too. ;-) Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) Thanks Dale, looks like thats the trick. BillK Glad to help. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.comwrote: Can anybody point me to a hint on how to configure synaptics touchapad sensitivity? The touchpad on my Thinkpad T500 is so sensitive you don't even have to touch it. Merely bringing a thumb or finger within 1/8 - 1/4 inch will cause the cursor to twitch spasmodically for a second and then jump to the lower left corner of the screen. Once you have a finger on the touchpad, it seems to work OK. I've figured out how to disable it temporarily using the xinput command, but I would like to actually get it working right. All the docs I can find seem to assume two things: 1) an xorg.conf file 2) the xf86-input-synpatics driver I'm using neither. I decided finally to give in and let Xorg use HAL like it wants to by default when you do a Gentoo install. I have a Thinkpad T61 and I do not use xorg.conf. But I am using HAL. The touchpad works pretty good. You can adjust synaptics changing the configuration on the /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi file. man 4 synaptic can give you a lot of extra options. What a huge mistake. I really, really hate HAL. With xorg.conf, all the settings were in one file, in an easy to read, easy to edit format. Now with HAL, they're scattered over several files. And to make sure you can't edit or read them, they're in XML. I have no idea what problem HAL is supposed to be solving, but it apprently wasn't a problem I ever had -- AFAICT HAL is nothing but pain. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends emerge text output to stderr, not stdout
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:20:25 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: Because I don't want a repeat of the ipv6 fiasco where I had an almost non-functional browser, mediaplayer (for internet files), etc, etc. Hardly non-functional - desperately slow maybe but far from non-functional. Blaming the devs for your broken modem/router is rather unfair. If you'd known it was unable to handle IPv6 correctly, why didn't you set the flag accordingly? If you didn't know, HTH were the devs supposed to know? Bear in mind the current thread discussing Gentoo following upstream closely and setting suitable defaults. Upstream include IPv6 support, Gentoo provides an option to turn this off, you missed it. That's a very poor performance for a control freak (speaking from a personal perspective). -- Neil Bothwick A man wrapped up in himself makes a very small package. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends emerge text output to stderr, not stdout
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:46:16 +, Stroller wrote: If you're not using a GUI terminal emulator with a scrollbar, then may I respectfully suggest you install `tmux` (a replacement for GNU `screen`) and use it. It takes a little while to get familiar with it, and with its keybindings and stuff, and perhaps even to get into the habit and mindset of using it, but it really is brilliant, How does it differ from screen? Is it sufficiently better to relearn keystrokes etc? -- Neil Bothwick If you think talk is cheap, try hiring a lawyer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:42:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: c. our devs are assumed to only pretend to be pedantic geeky gits who nit-pick about words, and not to actually *be* like that their entire life 24/7/365/75. Indeed. After all, if they were really pedantic, they would point out that you should have written either 24/7/52/75 or 24/365/75 :P -- Neil Bothwick On the other hand, you have different fingers. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels
tar c /path/to/old/ | tar xvp /path/to/new Whoops... That should be tar c -C /path/to/old/ . | tar xvp -C /path/to/new/ Sorry, andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thursday 18 November 2010 12:37:16 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:42:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: c. our devs are assumed to only pretend to be pedantic geeky gits who nit-pick about words, and not to actually *be* like that their entire life 24/7/365/75. Indeed. After all, if they were really pedantic, they would point out that you should have written either 24/7/52/75 or 24/365/75 :P pedantic mode Or that you both seem to forget the actual reason for the use of leap-years.. :P /pedantic mode Anyway, I do hope to live past my 75th birthday ;) -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:43:40 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: Indeed. After all, if they were really pedantic, they would point out that you should have written either 24/7/52/75 or 24/365/75 :P pedantic mode Or that you both seem to forget the actual reason for the use of leap-years.. :P /pedantic mode I thought the real reason for leap years was to boot the turnover of the wedding industry. Anyway, I do hope to live past my 75th birthday ;) Someone that pedantic is unlikely to get more than halfway there :) -- Neil Bothwick If you can smile when things go wrong then you have someone in mind to blame. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thursday 18 November 2010 12:52:40 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:43:40 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: Indeed. After all, if they were really pedantic, they would point out that you should have written either 24/7/52/75 or 24/365/75 :P pedantic mode Or that you both seem to forget the actual reason for the use of leap-years.. :P /pedantic mode I thought the real reason for leap years was to boot the turnover of the wedding industry. Oh? How does that work? Anyway, I do hope to live past my 75th birthday ;) Someone that pedantic is unlikely to get more than halfway there :) :) Am glad I'm not that pedantic then :) -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:37 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:42:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: c. our devs are assumed to only pretend to be pedantic geeky gits who nit-pick about words, and not to actually *be* like that their entire life 24/7/365/75. Indeed. After all, if they were really pedantic, they would point out that you should have written either 24/7/52/75 or 24/365/75 :P y'know, you have this very annoying habit of catching me out every time I talk shit in public :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
Apparently, though unproven, at 05:47 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Stroller did opine thusly: On 18/11/2010, at 1:46am, Grant Edwards wrote: ... Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what the devs do. Google doesn't seem to know what OYFEAL means. Do we get any hints? Yes, if you're patient he'll give you [1]. Note to self: stop composing mails at 3 in the morning. So it *should* have gone like this: == Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what the devs do. insert arb stuff here [1] Open Your F*cking Eyes And Look == It's an old hangover from my bench techies days when I had juniors who insisted on assuming they knew the cause of a problem even before they'd taken the covers off the faulty unit -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:42:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Indeed. After all, if they were really pedantic, they would point out that you should have written either 24/7/52/75 or 24/365/75 :P y'know, you have this very annoying habit of catching me out every time I talk shit in public Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, find fault in others. -- Neil Bothwick If it ain't broke, break it and charge for repair. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
Apparently, though unproven, at 11:31 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Sebastian Beßler did opine thusly: Am 18.11.2010 02:46, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2010-11-18, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what the devs do. Google doesn't seem to know what OYFEAL means. Do we get any hints? Google says this: OYFEAL: Open your fscking eyes and look Where'd you find that? It shouldn't be on the intarwebs, I made it up about 10 years ago and never posted it anywhere till now :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:32:42 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: I thought the real reason for leap years was to boot the turnover of the wedding industry. s/boot/boost/ Oh? How does that work? There's a tradition here that women propose to men on the leap day, which is why most men go into hiding on that day thereby boosting the profits of pubs and other hiding places. -- Neil Bothwick We are Microsoft of Borg. Prepare to The application assimilation has caused a General Protection Fault and must exit immediately. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends emerge text output to stderr, not stdout
On 2010/11/18 06:25AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: How does it differ from screen? Is it sufficiently better to relearn keystrokes etc? The major difference is that you can split the screen into panes, showing multiple ptys at the same time (similar to vim's :[v]sp, layout wise). Besides that, I think they have mostly similar functionality.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:18 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:32:42 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: I thought the real reason for leap years was to boot the turnover of the wedding industry. s/boot/boost/ Oh? How does that work? There's a tradition here that women propose to men on the leap day, which is why most men go into hiding on that day thereby boosting the profits of pubs and other hiding places. I fail to see how the pub's profits are boosted at all by this. Aren't they just doing exactly the same thing they do every other day of the year? ducks -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thursday 18 November 2010 14:18:55 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:32:42 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: I thought the real reason for leap years was to boot the turnover of the wedding industry. s/boot/boost/ Oh? How does that work? There's a tradition here that women propose to men on the leap day, which is why most men go into hiding on that day thereby boosting the profits of pubs and other hiding places. One could actually argue that the profits of pubs are reduced because then the men don't take the women to the pubs. And that the pubs then miss half of their customers. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:33:45 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: There's a tradition here that women propose to men on the leap day, which is why most men go into hiding on that day thereby boosting the profits of pubs and other hiding places. One could actually argue that the profits of pubs are reduced because then the men don't take the women to the pubs. And that the pubs then miss half of their customers. Only if one were a pedant :P -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed you'll get lots of advice. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
Am 18.11.2010 13:47, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:31 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Sebastian Beßler did opine thusly: Am 18.11.2010 02:46, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2010-11-18, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what the devs do. Google doesn't seem to know what OYFEAL means. Do we get any hints? Google says this:OYFEAL: Open your fscking eyes and look Where'd you find that? https://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user/msg/3e1d8a230d9834ac?hl=uz It is from 2009 Greetings Sebastian Beßler
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:12 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Sebastian Beßler did opine thusly: Am 18.11.2010 13:47, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:31 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Sebastian Beßler did opine thusly: Am 18.11.2010 02:46, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2010-11-18, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what the devs do. Google doesn't seem to know what OYFEAL means. Do we get any hints? Google says this:OYFEAL: Open your fscking eyes and look Where'd you find that? https://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user/msg/3e1d8a230d9834ac?hl=u z It is from 2009 I must be getting old and forgetful. Forgot about that post. What were we talking about again? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
Am 18.11.2010 15:21, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:12 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Sebastian Beßler did opine thusly: Am 18.11.2010 13:47, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:31 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Sebastian Beßler did opine thusly: Am 18.11.2010 02:46, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2010-11-18, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what the devs do. Google doesn't seem to know what OYFEAL means. Do we get any hints? Google says this:OYFEAL: Open your fscking eyes and look Where'd you find that? https://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user/msg/3e1d8a230d9834ac?hl=u z It is from 2009 I must be getting old and forgetful. Forgot about that post. What were we talking about again? That is why we have the internet.. It never forgets ;-)
Re: [gentoo-user] tmux vs. screen
On 18/11/2010, at 11:25am, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:46:16 +, Stroller wrote: If you're not using a GUI terminal emulator with a scrollbar, then may I respectfully suggest you install `tmux` (a replacement for GNU `screen`) and use it. It takes a little while to get familiar with it, and with its keybindings and stuff, and perhaps even to get into the habit and mindset of using it, but it really is brilliant, How does it differ from screen? Is it sufficiently better to relearn keystrokes etc? I wondered if I'd get asked this. The fundamental feature, I think, is that you can move a window from one session to another. This isn't something I've needed yet, but it seems like it could be useful if you need it. tmux has panes within windows - I'm not sure if screen has that? tmux is supposed to be more efficient, better architected and use a fraction of the resources of screen. tmux doesn't have an equivalent of `screen -Rd`, which tells screen to start working in an existing session, or create a new one if that doesn't work. So I have `tmux a -d || tmux` in my Bash scrollback buffer, and run it as soon as I log on. You absolutely *have* to change tmux's default control key. It was set to ctrl-b to avoid collisions with screen's ctrl-a when the author was first developing it, when he was still using screen himself, and it has never changed. I originally wanted to stay with the default bindings so that I'd be familiar with them just in case I ever sometime had to log on to a different system without a personalised .tmux.conf. It drove me crazy very quickly - because b is on the wrong side of the (qwerty) keyboard you can't activate tmux controls one-handed until you change it back to ctrl-a. Obviously it's very easy to change the bindings. I will hereafter refer to ctrl-a as the default and as if it were the default, because that's what everyone immediately changes it to. Because of tmux's architecture you can change options on the fly in a way that (I think) you can't with screen. If I want to change the key binding I can just type `tmux set -g prefix C-a` (or `tmux set -g prefix C-b`) and the change happens immediately. I think this is because the tmux command is not starting the tmux program, but instead talking to the existing tmux server (which was started when I ran just `tmux` with no parameters). Oh, you can apply changes only to particular sessions or windows - the -g before stands for global, but I think you could have different sessions as different colours, if you wanted to. Likewise, with screen you can press ctrl-a then the key to show what windows you have open. With tmux this is `ctrl-a w`, but you can also type `tmux list-windows` (or `tmux list-w` for short) at your bash prompt and get the same thing on stdout. You could grep that if you wanted to and I think you could use that output to make functions or bash scripts that act upon it. You can do the `ctrl-a :` thing first and enter the tmux command-line if you want to - in that case it would be `ctrl-a :list-windows` without the `tmux` in front - but you don't have to, and I find it clearer and more useful to have the output on stdout. I believe the scrollback buffer on tmux is better, and that you can copy and paste from it in ways that you can't with screen. The default key binding to enter scrollback is `ctrl-a [`, instead of `ctrl-a esc` - I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that yet. Navigating in scrollback you can choose between vi and emacs keybindings (for page up, page down c). I think what really won my heart, and did so quite quickly, is that tmux has a status bar configured by default. I'm pretty sure you can do that with screen, too, but I've never bothered, because it seemed too much effort to learn and it just seemed flashy and pointless. I realised how mistaken I was within a couple of hours of using tmux. It has absolutely changed the way I use terminal multiplexers, and so I spent several hours the next day configuring mine and getting the colours and stuff perfect. The status bar makes navigating between windows much easier because you can see at a glance which window is which, and what's going on in them. If you don't name a window then tmux will try to show something sensible for the window title, so they show emerge or vi or sudo or bash without you having to do anything. And this will change, when the command finishes and you run something else, so basically naming windows becomes redundant and less useful. tmux will also do slightly intelligent searching, so you type `ctrl-a f` then `eme` it will suggest the window in which emerge is running. But mostly I don't need to do tricks, because I have the status bar there showing me what's happening in which window, so I tend just to switch to windows numerically. I think having the status bar actually kinda gives you a better spatial orientation or a mental
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:21:23 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: What were we talking about again? OYFEAL -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 1: Microsoft Works signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On 2010-11-18, Fernando Antunes fs.antu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.comwrote: Can anybody point me to a hint on how to configure synaptics touchapad sensitivity? All the docs I can find seem to assume two things: 1) an xorg.conf file 2) the xf86-input-synpatics driver I'm using neither. You can adjust synaptics changing the configuration on the /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi file. man 4 synaptic can give you a lot of extra options. That only works if you're using the synaptics driver -- which I'm not. I haven't figured out how to do that yet. It was built, since I included it in INPUT_DEVICES, but HAL decided not to use it. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Wait ... is this a FUN at THING or the END of LIFE in gmail.comPetticoat Junction??
[gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use/java
Is there something special about the file name /etc/portage/package.use/java ? For some reason, if I create this file to hold USE flags for my java packages, bash tries to source it when I log in. As far as I can tell this is the only filename that gets this wierd treatment: platypus kutulu # cat /etc/portage/package.use/java echo This is /etc/portage/package.use/java! Last login: Thu Nov 18 10:35:07 EST 2010 from mike-desktop on pts/2 This is /etc/portage/package.use/java! kut...@platypus ~ $
[gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?
I was having trouble with my standard update world emerge on one of my machines. I can't download because I don't have libssl.so.0.9.8. The exact error msg is wget: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I seem to have the 1.0.0 version installed. ls -l /usr/lib/libssl* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 458092 Nov 18 09:01 /usr/lib/libssl.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Nov 18 09:02 /usr/lib/libssl.so - libssl.so.1.0.0 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 322556 Nov 18 09:01 /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 1 18:57 /usr/lib/libssl3.so - libssl3.so.12 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 191392 Nov 1 18:57 /usr/lib/libssl3.so.12 On *other* machines I see that openssl was just installed as part of the world update and a revdep-rebuild --library libssl.so.0.9.8 rm '/usr/lib64/libssl.so.0.9.8' called for. I realize that this strongly suggests that I did the rm on this machine by mistake. However 1. I don't think I did (weak argument) 2. history | grep libssl doesn't find an rm 3. Other files proved missing as well This machine has CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu I went to another machine which is multilib and copied the libssl from the lib32 directory. Then it asked for libcrypto so I copied that now it asks for libkrb5.so.3. After a few more iterations, I succeeded! But clearly something is wrong. It is NO problem for me to take this machine out of service for a few days and run an emerge -e world. Are there risks in this? Is there a better idea? thanks, allan
[gentoo-user] Re: migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: LABEL=boot/bootext2noatime1 2 LABEL=root /reiserfsdefaults0 1 LABEL=swapnoneswapsw0 0 LABEL=portage/usr/portageext3defaults0 1 LABEL=home/homereiserfsdefaults1 1 LABEL=data/datareiserfsdefaults0 1 Exactly what I was looking for! I use a variety of file systems don't I? lol Yes, but as an example it is GREAT! thx, James
Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:29:21 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: 3. Other files proved missing as well I went to another machine which is multilib and copied the libssl from the lib32 directory. Then it asked for libcrypto so I copied that now it asks for libkrb5.so.3. After a few more iterations, I succeeded! But clearly something is wrong. It is NO problem for me to take this machine out of service for a few days and run an emerge -e world. Are there risks in this? Is there a better idea? If files are disappearing, I'd say fsck is needed more that emerge. -- Neil Bothwick Never get into fights with ugly people because they have nothing to lose. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4 multi-monitor + fullscreen applications
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:41:25PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 17.11.2010 23:26, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 00:08 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Florian Philipp did opine thusly: Hi list! Today, KDE nearly killed a presentation I held and now I want to understand what's going on: Following setup: One laptop, two outputs (internal display + projector). Now I configure KDE to expand the desktop on both (instead of simple cloning). So far, so good. For anyone to help at all, we'll need to know your hardware and video drivers, plus versions in use of X.org and it's drivers, plus relevant config stuff. Everything else is highly configurable and subject to the whim of driver writers and the user. And there's always nVidia's stance to be taken into account as well Ah, right, forgot about that. Intel GMA HD graphics (i915 driver), x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.2 (USE=udev -hal) and x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.8 No xorg.conf. Tried it with composite effects off and on. KDE is on version 4.4.5 and some packages 4.4.7 (current stable). First question: How does KDE choose on which output the standard desktop ends up and which gets the second set of desktop background + plasma widgets? It seems like the one with the higher resolution is standard and on a draw, it is the right-most. Is that correct? Can it be configured? Now that I have both desktops, I open Acroread or Okular and start the fullscreen/presentation mode. What happens is that the presentation is deterministically opened on one of the displays. What I don't understand is how it chooses which one it uses? xrandr 1.3 has a new option to say which output should be 'primary' you can try something like xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x768 --pos 0x0 --primary --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --righ-of LVDS1 However IIRC kde used to ignore which display was primary (reported as xinerama screen 0) and somehow decided on its own order... Here okular works correclty (well, at least Current screen and Screen XX used to work, don't remember for Default screen and can't test right now...), but right now I'm using fluxbox as window manager and not kwin, but I it would be weird if it actually made things break.. ;) yoyo It doesn't depend on the placement of the window (although other applications like Flash in Firefox, MPlayer, Kaffeine and Gwenview do). It doesn't always open on the secondary or standard desktop (as specified above). It rather seems like it always opens on the one with the higher resolution and if both are equal, it opens on the left-most. So, what happened when I tried to hold my presentation? The projector had a low resolution (1024x768) and therefore neither Acroread nor Okular showed on fullscreen on the projector. None of my previous tests showed that problem since I used two displays with equal resolution. Great fun! In the end, I cloned the output and thereby gave Okular no other choice. (Lucky me that I didn't any additional notes or anything on the other display ...) What can I do to influence this behavior? Edit: I just noticed that both applications have settings for this. However, they are ignored and the setting in Acroread is even reset to Current display each time I close the settings dialog! What is going on here? Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp
Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I was having trouble with my standard update world emerge on one of my machines. I can't download because I don't have libssl.so.0.9.8. The exact error msg is wget: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I seem to have the 1.0.0 version installed. ls -l /usr/lib/libssl* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 458092 Nov 18 09:01 /usr/lib/libssl.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Nov 18 09:02 /usr/lib/libssl.so - libssl.so.1.0.0 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 322556 Nov 18 09:01 /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 1 18:57 /usr/lib/libssl3.so - libssl3.so.12 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 191392 Nov 1 18:57 /usr/lib/libssl3.so.12 On *other* machines I see that openssl was just installed as part of the world update and a revdep-rebuild --library libssl.so.0.9.8 rm '/usr/lib64/libssl.so.0.9.8' called for. I realize that this strongly suggests that I did the rm on this machine by mistake. However 1. I don't think I did (weak argument) 2. history | grep libssl doesn't find an rm 3. Other files proved missing as well This machine has CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu I went to another machine which is multilib and copied the libssl from the lib32 directory. Then it asked for libcrypto so I copied that now it asks for libkrb5.so.3. After a few more iterations, I succeeded! But clearly something is wrong. It is NO problem for me to take this machine out of service for a few days and run an emerge -e world. Are there risks in this? Is there a better idea? thanks, allan Possibly lafilefixer --justfixit ??
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4 multi-monitor + fullscreen applications
- Original Message From: YoYo Siska y...@gl.ksp.sk To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 12:41:03 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4 multi-monitor + fullscreen applications On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:41:25PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 17.11.2010 23:26, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 00:08 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Florian Philipp did opine thusly: Hi list! Today, KDE nearly killed a presentation I held and now I want to understand what's going on: Following setup: One laptop, two outputs (internal display + projector). Now I configure KDE to expand the desktop on both (instead of simple cloning). So far, so good. For anyone to help at all, we'll need to know your hardware and video drivers, plus versions in use of X.org and it's drivers, plus relevant config stuff. Everything else is highly configurable and subject to the whim of driver writers and the user. And there's always nVidia's stance to be taken into account as well Ah, right, forgot about that. Intel GMA HD graphics (i915 driver), x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.2 (USE=udev -hal) and x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.8 No xorg.conf. Tried it with composite effects off and on. KDE is on version 4.4.5 and some packages 4.4.7 (current stable). First question: How does KDE choose on which output the standard desktop ends up and which gets the second set of desktop background + plasma widgets? It seems like the one with the higher resolution is standard and on a draw, it is the right-most. Is that correct? Can it be configured? Now that I have both desktops, I open Acroread or Okular and start the fullscreen/presentation mode. What happens is that the presentation is deterministically opened on one of the displays. What I don't understand is how it chooses which one it uses? xrandr 1.3 has a new option to say which output should be 'primary' you can try something like xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x768 --pos 0x0 --primary --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --righ-of LVDS1 However IIRC kde used to ignore which display was primary (reported as xinerama screen 0) and somehow decided on its own order... Here okular works correclty (well, at least Current screen and Screen XX used to work, don't remember for Default screen and can't test right now...), but right now I'm using fluxbox as window manager and not kwin, but I it would be weird if it actually made things break.. ;) snip You may be interested in this post by Aaron Seigo: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/11/multihead-plasma-desktop-needs-you.html Also, check the KDE System Settings as I mentioned in my first post on this thread. I don't have an Xorg config file, and yet I can do multiple displays through KDE; I also don't configure xRandr. This is all independent of any video card; though, as A. Seigo points out there are some issues still being fixed. Not sure if you're trying to run multi-head or simply multi-screen; though I think multi-screen since you don't have an xorg.conf file too. Please read Aaron's post. Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use/java
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:52 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Mike Edenfield did opine thusly: Is there something special about the file name /etc/portage/package.use/java ? For some reason, if I create this file to hold USE flags for my java packages, bash tries to source it when I log in. As far as I can tell this is the only filename that gets this wierd treatment: platypus kutulu # cat /etc/portage/package.use/java echo This is /etc/portage/package.use/java! Last login: Thu Nov 18 10:35:07 EST 2010 from mike-desktop on pts/2 This is /etc/portage/package.use/java! kut...@platypus ~ $ I think you have a . /etc/portage/package.use/java in your .profile somewhere :-) grep -r is your friend here. Most likely it happened when you typed an echo file type command sometime and botched the redirectors -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] jack and headaches
Hi, I got some headaches from trying to use jack (the audio-connector). Following this: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/JACK I finally tried this: jackd -d alsa and got this: solfire:/home/mccramersudo jackd -d alsa jackd 0.118.0 Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit control device hw:0 configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian ALSA: use 2 periods for capture ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian ALSA: use 2 periods for playback jackd watchdog: timeout - killing jackd same when using qjackctrl. Any hint what I can do to get jack running? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:29:21 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: 3. Other files proved missing as well I went to another machine which is multilib and copied the libssl from the lib32 directory. Then it asked for libcrypto so I copied that now it asks for libkrb5.so.3. After a few more iterations, I succeeded! But clearly something is wrong. It is NO problem for me to take this machine out of service for a few days and run an emerge -e world. Are there risks in this? Is there a better idea? If files are disappearing, I'd say fsck is needed more that emerge. Thanks. I suspected emerge since all the files seemed to be related to openssl and everything else was working. But, as usual, you are doubtless right. All files except root checked fine. I used to do fsck on root via mount -o remount,ro /dev/sdaX e2fsck -f /dev/sdaX But now the mount replies that / is busy. I read the e2fsck man page. It says using -n is safe on a mounted file system unless fsck itself tells you not to but you can't trust the output. The output was a few errors reported, but of course not fixed. Then I read the source and found /forcefsck This worked fine and the next reboot checked all filesystems and reported no errors. Should I now run emerge -e world? If so, I suppose I should stop cron from running an emerge --sync during the night. thanks again, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use/java
On 11/18/2010 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:52 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Mike Edenfield did opine thusly: Is there something special about the file name /etc/portage/package.use/java ? For some reason, if I create this file to hold USE flags for my java packages, bash tries to source it when I log in. As far as I can tell this is the only filename that gets this wierd treatment: grep -r is your friend here. Most likely it happened when you typed an echo file type command sometime and botched the redirectors Huh. Found it, but now I'm even more confused than before: platypus ~ # ls -alF /etc/bash_completion.d/java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Nov 16 08:18 /etc/bash_completion.d/java - //etc/portage/package.use/java I'm pretty sure I didn't actually make that softlink myself, and I have no idea where it came from: platypus ~ # equery belongs /etc/bash_completion.d/java * Searching for /etc/bash_completion.d/java ... platypus ~ # --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I was having trouble with my standard update world emerge on one of my machines. I can't download because I don't have libssl.so.0.9.8. The exact error msg is [[ big snip ]] But clearly something is wrong. It is NO problem for me to take this machine out of service for a few days and run an emerge -e world. Are there risks in this? Is there a better idea? Possibly lafilefixer --justfixit Thanks that did find a bunch. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] tmux vs. screen
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Stroller
strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
I think what really won my heart, and did so quite quickly, is that tmux has a
status bar configured by default. I'm pretty sure you can do that with screen,
too, but I've never bothered, because it seemed too much effort to learn and it
just seemed flashy and pointless. I realised how mistaken I was within a couple
of hours of using tmux. It has absolutely changed the way I use terminal
multiplexers, and so I spent several hours the next day configuring mine and
getting the colours and stuff perfect.
I have not used tmux but I agree completely, I hate to use screen
without the status bar. I'm using one I copied from here or the forums
or the gentoo wiki or someplace out there in WWW land. (Thanks to the
person who made it, whoever you are)
Add this to your .screenrc:
caption always %{= kw}%-w%{= BW}%n %t%{-}%+w %-= @%H - %LD %d %LM - %c
[gentoo-user] E17 and package.use
I have installed E17 using layman and the efl overlay, but today I just ran dispatch-conf and these changes showed up: = --- /etc/portage/package.use2010-11-15 12:50:46.0 + +++ /etc/portage/._cfg_package.use 2010-11-18 19:35:35.0 + @@ -8,11 +8,11 @@ net-wireless/bluez gstreamer pcmcia app-portage/layman subversion #entrance -x11-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm -x11-libs/ecore X curl +media-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm +dev-libs/ecore X curl #E17 -x11-libs/e_dbus X -x11-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm fontconfig +dev-libs/e_dbus X +media-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm fontconfig #efl overlay dev-libs/ecore glib threads xim curl ssl inotify evas opengl X xinerama xprint xscreensaver -sdl -gnutls dev-libs/eet ssl threads -gnutls (1 of 1) -- /etc/portage/package.use q quit, h help, n next, e edit-new, z zap-new, u use-new m merge, t toggle-merge, l look-merge: = Why is this? Do I want to accept these changes? I am not sure if they are caused by layman or portage proper. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels
James wrote: Dalerdalek1967at gmail.com writes: LABEL=boot/bootext2noatime1 2 LABEL=root /reiserfsdefaults0 1 LABEL=swapnoneswapsw0 0 LABEL=portage/usr/portageext3defaults0 1 LABEL=home/homereiserfsdefaults1 1 LABEL=data/datareiserfsdefaults0 1 Exactly what I was looking for! I use a variety of file systems don't I? lol Yes, but as an example it is GREAT! thx, James I'm planning to add one more file system soon, ext4. Thinking about switching from reiserfs to ext4. I got to read up and see if it will help but it appears reiserfs is not being worked on to much. We all know what happens when things ain't getting fixed. They break. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use/java
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:36 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Mike Edenfield did opine thusly: On 11/18/2010 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:52 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Mike Edenfield did opine thusly: Is there something special about the file name /etc/portage/package.use/java ? For some reason, if I create this file to hold USE flags for my java packages, bash tries to source it when I log in. As far as I can tell this is the only filename that gets this wierd treatment: grep -r is your friend here. Most likely it happened when you typed an echo file type command sometime and botched the redirectors Huh. Found it, but now I'm even more confused than before: platypus ~ # ls -alF /etc/bash_completion.d/java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Nov 16 08:18 /etc/bash_completion.d/java - //etc/portage/package.use/java I'm pretty sure I didn't actually make that softlink myself, and I have no idea where it came from: platypus ~ # equery belongs /etc/bash_completion.d/java * Searching for /etc/bash_completion.d/java ... platypus ~ # Maybe you had the bad luck to install an awesomely dodgy ebuild. Here's what it should be: # ls -al /etc/bash_completion.d/java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Oct 27 03:08 /etc/bash_completion.d/java - /usr/share/bash-completion/java You can either just fix the symlink, or remerge bash-completion. I'd also check /etc/bash_completion.d/ for any more dodgy symlinks -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] E17 and package.use
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:10 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: I have installed E17 using layman and the efl overlay, but today I just ran dispatch-conf and these changes showed up: = --- /etc/portage/package.use2010-11-15 12:50:46.0 + +++ /etc/portage/._cfg_package.use 2010-11-18 19:35:35.0 + @@ -8,11 +8,11 @@ net-wireless/bluez gstreamer pcmcia app-portage/layman subversion #entrance -x11-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm -x11-libs/ecore X curl +media-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm +dev-libs/ecore X curl #E17 -x11-libs/e_dbus X -x11-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm fontconfig +dev-libs/e_dbus X +media-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm fontconfig #efl overlay dev-libs/ecore glib threads xim curl ssl inotify evas opengl X xinerama xprint xscreensaver -sdl -gnutls dev-libs/eet ssl threads -gnutls (1 of 1) -- /etc/portage/package.use q quit, h help, n next, e edit-new, z zap-new, u use-new m merge, t toggle-merge, l look-merge: = Why is this? Do I want to accept these changes? I am not sure if they are caused by layman or portage proper. You have a mixture of vapier's overlay from layman and barberi's overlay from enlightenment.org, evas and ecore changed category from x11-libs to dev-libs in barberi's overlay. You can't have both, they conflict. Do this: delete the vapier overlay - it's WY outdated accept conf-update changes related to e17 install the efl overlay from enlightenment.org - it's currently maintained delete any and all e17 packages. emerge @e17 keep in mind for the future that you can't update the e17 packages why they are at version . You must update the entire lot, in order, anytime you want to update anything. This is normal for - packages -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use/java
On 11/18/2010 3:20 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Maybe you had the bad luck to install an awesomely dodgy ebuild. Here's what it should be: # ls -al /etc/bash_completion.d/java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Oct 27 03:08 /etc/bash_completion.d/java - /usr/share/bash-completion/java Thanks, all fixed. These appear to be dynamically linked/unlinked by eselect, so that musta gone haywire at some point. --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] E17 and package.use
On Thursday 18 November 2010 20:26:36 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:10 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: I have installed E17 using layman and the efl overlay, but today I just ran dispatch-conf and these changes showed up: = --- /etc/portage/package.use2010-11-15 12:50:46.0 + +++ /etc/portage/._cfg_package.use 2010-11-18 19:35:35.0 + @@ -8,11 +8,11 @@ net-wireless/bluez gstreamer pcmcia app-portage/layman subversion #entrance -x11-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm -x11-libs/ecore X curl +media-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm +dev-libs/ecore X curl #E17 -x11-libs/e_dbus X -x11-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm fontconfig +dev-libs/e_dbus X +media-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm fontconfig #efl overlay dev-libs/ecore glib threads xim curl ssl inotify evas opengl X xinerama xprint xscreensaver -sdl -gnutls dev-libs/eet ssl threads -gnutls (1 of 1) -- /etc/portage/package.use q quit, h help, n next, e edit-new, z zap-new, u use-new m merge, t toggle-merge, l look-merge: = Why is this? Do I want to accept these changes? I am not sure if they are caused by layman or portage proper. You have a mixture of vapier's overlay from layman and barberi's overlay from enlightenment.org, evas and ecore changed category from x11-libs to dev-libs in barberi's overlay. You can't have both, they conflict. Do this: delete the vapier overlay - it's WY outdated accept conf-update changes related to e17 install the efl overlay from enlightenment.org - it's currently maintained delete any and all e17 packages. emerge @e17 keep in mind for the future that you can't update the e17 packages why they are at version . You must update the entire lot, in order, anytime you want to update anything. This is normal for - packages Thank you Alan, I seem to recall that at one point I did try Vapier's overlay, but it didn't work and then you kindly suggested that I used this: $ layman -l * efl [Subversion] (http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/packaging/gentoo Now, when I try to delete vapier's I get this: # layman -d enlightenment * Overlay enlightenment does not exist. Am I right then to assume that it is no longer installed? $ ls -la /var/lib/layman/ total 158 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 8 Nov 1 20:10 . drwxr-xr-x 32 root root 36 Nov 18 19:14 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 154200 Nov 18 21:21 cache_ac494f50f5736be7871962c0dec7b3bb.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 root root379 Nov 18 21:06 cache_f4870c06236b316a7c7915b9c5fa4960.xml drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 21 Nov 18 20:08 efl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 20:10 .keep_app-portage_layman-0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 57 Jun 11 07:23 make.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root480 Jun 11 07:23 overlays.xml So I *should* be safe to accept the changes that dispatch-conf suggests, right? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?
On Thursday 18 November 2010 19:20:51 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:29:21 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: 3. Other files proved missing as well I went to another machine which is multilib and copied the libssl from the lib32 directory. Then it asked for libcrypto so I copied that now it asks for libkrb5.so.3. After a few more iterations, I succeeded! But clearly something is wrong. It is NO problem for me to take this machine out of service for a few days and run an emerge -e world. Are there risks in this? Is there a better idea? If files are disappearing, I'd say fsck is needed more that emerge. Thanks. I suspected emerge since all the files seemed to be related to openssl and everything else was working. But, as usual, you are doubtless right. All files except root checked fine. I used to do fsck on root via mount -o remount,ro /dev/sdaX e2fsck -f /dev/sdaX But now the mount replies that / is busy. I read the e2fsck man page. It says using -n is safe on a mounted file system unless fsck itself tells you not to but you can't trust the output. The output was a few errors reported, but of course not fixed. Then I read the source and found /forcefsck This worked fine and the next reboot checked all filesystems and reported no errors. Should I now run emerge -e world? If so, I suppose I should stop cron from running an emerge --sync during the night. I used to do the same with reiserfs, but since I borked badly a reiser4 fs I decided it is safer to use a LiveCD for this job. So I have to say YMMV. ;-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thursday 18 November 2010 15:48:23 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-11-18, Fernando Antunes fs.antu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.comwrote: Can anybody point me to a hint on how to configure synaptics touchapad sensitivity? All the docs I can find seem to assume two things: 1) an xorg.conf file 2) the xf86-input-synpatics driver I'm using neither. You can adjust synaptics changing the configuration on the /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi file. man 4 synaptic can give you a lot of extra options. That only works if you're using the synaptics driver -- which I'm not. I haven't figured out how to do that yet. It was built, since I included it in INPUT_DEVICES, but HAL decided not to use it. What does your Xorg.0.log say about synaptics? $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep synaptics (II) LoadModule: synaptics (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so (II) Module synaptics: vendor=X.Org Foundation -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] tmux vs. screen
On 18 nov. 2010, at 20:52, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Stroller
strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
I think what really won my heart, and did so quite quickly, is that tmux has
a
status bar configured by default. I'm pretty sure you can do that with
screen,
too, but I've never bothered, because it seemed too much effort to learn and
it
just seemed flashy and pointless. I realised how mistaken I was within a
couple
of hours of using tmux. It has absolutely changed the way I use terminal
multiplexers, and so I spent several hours the next day configuring mine and
getting the colours and stuff perfect.
I have not used tmux but I agree completely, I hate to use screen
without the status bar. I'm using one I copied from here or the forums
or the gentoo wiki or someplace out there in WWW land. (Thanks to the
person who made it, whoever you are)
Add this to your .screenrc:
caption always %{= kw}%-w%{= BW}%n %t%{-}%+w %-= @%H - %LD %d %LM - %c
Also, amongst other things, =tmux-1.3 has mouse support.
You can scroll using your mouse in copy mode and use your mouse to select one
of the splitted panes of your active window.
You can also break/join panes in and out the active window and it has awesome
predefined layouts.
I'll add that tmux has a readable and even understandable man page and the
dev(s) is really reactive on the ml/irc.
ps : in case anyone needs a customized tmux.conf, here's mine
http://sprunge.us/WHNU
-
Florian.
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Re: [gentoo-user] E17 and package.use
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:04 on Friday 19 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: On Thursday 18 November 2010 20:26:36 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:10 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: I have installed E17 using layman and the efl overlay, but today I just ran dispatch-conf and these changes showed up: = --- /etc/portage/package.use2010-11-15 12:50:46.0 + +++ /etc/portage/._cfg_package.use 2010-11-18 19:35:35.0 + @@ -8,11 +8,11 @@ net-wireless/bluez gstreamer pcmcia app-portage/layman subversion #entrance -x11-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm -x11-libs/ecore X curl +media-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm +dev-libs/ecore X curl #E17 -x11-libs/e_dbus X -x11-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm fontconfig +dev-libs/e_dbus X +media-libs/evas X jpeg png svg xpm fontconfig #efl overlay dev-libs/ecore glib threads xim curl ssl inotify evas opengl X xinerama xprint xscreensaver -sdl -gnutls dev-libs/eet ssl threads -gnutls (1 of 1) -- /etc/portage/package.use q quit, h help, n next, e edit-new, z zap-new, u use-new m merge, t toggle-merge, l look-merge: = Why is this? Do I want to accept these changes? I am not sure if they are caused by layman or portage proper. You have a mixture of vapier's overlay from layman and barberi's overlay from enlightenment.org, evas and ecore changed category from x11-libs to dev-libs in barberi's overlay. You can't have both, they conflict. Do this: delete the vapier overlay - it's WY outdated accept conf-update changes related to e17 install the efl overlay from enlightenment.org - it's currently maintained delete any and all e17 packages. emerge @e17 keep in mind for the future that you can't update the e17 packages why they are at version . You must update the entire lot, in order, anytime you want to update anything. This is normal for - packages Thank you Alan, I seem to recall that at one point I did try Vapier's overlay, but it didn't work and then you kindly suggested that I used this: $ layman -l * efl [Subversion] (http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/packaging/gentoo Now, when I try to delete vapier's I get this: # layman -d enlightenment * Overlay enlightenment does not exist. Am I right then to assume that it is no longer installed? $ ls -la /var/lib/layman/ total 158 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 8 Nov 1 20:10 . drwxr-xr-x 32 root root 36 Nov 18 19:14 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 154200 Nov 18 21:21 cache_ac494f50f5736be7871962c0dec7b3bb.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 root root379 Nov 18 21:06 cache_f4870c06236b316a7c7915b9c5fa4960.xml drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 21 Nov 18 20:08 efl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 20:10 .keep_app-portage_layman-0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 57 Jun 11 07:23 make.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root480 Jun 11 07:23 overlays.xml So I *should* be safe to accept the changes that dispatch-conf suggests, right? Now there's another confusion. This just got committed to the efl overlay: http://cia.vc/stats/project/e/.message/1897db5 Note that the dev says we should be moving back to the enlightenment overlay :-) With all these changes it's hard to give firm advice, except to say this: If conf-update wants to make changes to package categories, and eix on your machine gives the same new ones as the new config file, then make the change. Otherwise find out why you are out of step. having said that, yes it does look like you have enlightenment overlay uninstalled and the efl one installed. And it looks like you are now going to switch them back around again. Life on the bleeding edge is fun, right? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] tmux vs. screen
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:25 on Friday 19 November 2010, Florian
CROUZAT did opine thusly:
On 18 nov. 2010, at 20:52, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Stroller
strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
I think what really won my heart, and did so quite quickly, is that tmux
has a status bar configured by default. I'm pretty sure you can do that
with screen, too, but I've never bothered, because it seemed too much
effort to learn and it just seemed flashy and pointless. I realised how
mistaken I was within a couple of hours of using tmux. It has
absolutely changed the way I use terminal multiplexers, and so I spent
several hours the next day configuring mine and getting the colours and
stuff perfect.
I have not used tmux but I agree completely, I hate to use screen
without the status bar. I'm using one I copied from here or the forums
or the gentoo wiki or someplace out there in WWW land. (Thanks to the
person who made it, whoever you are)
Add this to your .screenrc:
caption always %{= kw}%-w%{= BW}%n %t%{-}%+w %-= @%H - %LD %d %LM - %c
Also, amongst other things, =tmux-1.3 has mouse support.
You can scroll using your mouse in copy mode and use your mouse to select
one of the splitted panes of your active window. You can also break/join
panes in and out the active window and it has awesome predefined layouts.
I'll add that tmux has a readable and even understandable man page
^^ ^^^
I'm sold. 4 words, that's all it took.
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:14:05 -0600, Dale wrote: We all know what happens when things ain't getting fixed. They break. ;-) I'd say the opposite is true, no maintenance can be better than provocative maintenance. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 011: Window open - Do not look outside signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X crashing
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 17:27:28 Jacques Montier wrote: Le 17/11/2010 18:07, walt a écrit : On 11/17/2010 07:17 AM, Jacques Montier wrote: Hi all, I use an astronomical open source imaging software (http://www.audela.org/) which works fine except when launching a tcl photometry script (Calaphot). X crashes with the error message : X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Major opcode of failed request: 148 (RENDER) Minor opcode of failed request: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Serial number of failed request: 51329 Current serial number in output stream: 51338 I get the same crash on two PCs with Gentoo. I use an ATI graphic card 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] and the open source radeon driver. You may have found a bug in the open source driver. Is there a binary driver available from ATI that you can try? Binary ati drivers don't work with this old graphic card (RV350 Radon 9600), but i can try again for see.. Have you tried enabling CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS=y in your kernel, disabling vesa/uvesa and testing xorg-server-1.9.x it to see if it is more stable/reliable? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] some two more rsync questions
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 12:16:48 Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I have two problems with rsync 1st) if I give both commandline options -u and -c it looks as if a file which is more recent but different on the destination is not updated, i.e. -u overrules -c Is that true? 2nd) There is a symlink A on SourceDir which refers to a directory On the other hand, A is the name of a (real) subdirectory of DestDir Now doing rsync -auHz --delete --exclude=/A SourceDir/ DestDir/ does remove A on DestDir - why ? I don't know the answer to your 1st question, but I think that the answer to your 2nd question is that A on the DestDir is removed because of the -- delete option. According to the man page: --delete delete extraneous files from dest dirs. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:14:05 -0600, Dale wrote: We all know what happens when things ain't getting fixed. They break. ;-) I'd say the opposite is true, no maintenance can be better than provocative maintenance. My thoughts were that is something breaks then no one fixes it, we got issues. That would be really bad if it was a corruption problem that the user doesn't see until it is to late. It just depends on what is wrong I guess. Sometimes when you fix one thing, you break a few others. We have all seen that before. We don't want that for sure. I just want something that I am pretty sure is being maintained and is really stable. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] tmux vs. screen
Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:25 on Friday 19 November 2010, Florian
CROUZAT did opine thusly:
On 18 nov. 2010, at 20:52, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Stroller
strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
I think what really won my heart, and did so quite quickly, is that tmux
has a status bar configured by default. I'm pretty sure you can do that
with screen, too, but I've never bothered, because it seemed too much
effort to learn and it just seemed flashy and pointless. I realised how
mistaken I was within a couple of hours of using tmux. It has
absolutely changed the way I use terminal multiplexers, and so I spent
several hours the next day configuring mine and getting the colours and
stuff perfect.
I have not used tmux but I agree completely, I hate to use screen
without the status bar. I'm using one I copied from here or the forums
or the gentoo wiki or someplace out there in WWW land. (Thanks to the
person who made it, whoever you are)
Add this to your .screenrc:
caption always %{= kw}%-w%{= BW}%n %t%{-}%+w %-= @%H - %LD %d %LM - %c
Also, amongst other things,=tmux-1.3 has mouse support.
You can scroll using your mouse in copy mode and use your mouse to select
one of the splitted panes of your active window. You can also break/join
panes in and out the active window and it has awesome predefined layouts.
I'll add that tmux has a readable and even understandable man page
^^ ^^^
I'm sold. 4 words, that's all it took.
That makes me want to try it too. Most man pages are like Greek to me.
I use screen pretty often, especially when OOo is compiling. Nothing
worse than starting that thing in a Konsole and realizing you need to
log out about 6 hours in. o-O
Dale
:-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel multitasking improvement
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:36 on Friday 19 November 2010, Daniel D Jones did opine thusly: Has anyone running Gentoo tried this? If so, what were your results? http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/alternative-to-200-lines-kernel-patch.html The instructions include adding the following command to .bashrc: mkdir -m 0700 /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/user/$$ Under /sys/fs/, the only subdirectory I have is fuse. It isn't clear to me if simply creating the entire tree will work or if some alteration is necessary for this to work under Gentoo. cgroup is control group. I'll bet you don't have it included in your kernel. It's under the first menu item in menuconfig. The article doesn't mention it, it assumes you run redhat or ubuntu -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 22:24:23 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, James did opine thusly: Hello, I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want to migrate to a 2T Sata disk. This is simple, but, I have a few caveats. [snip ...] Ok now I was going to use same reiserfs no big deal I dropped my beloved reiserfs systems of many years in favour of ext4. I was seeing ext4 (and the much-hyped btrfs) racing forward into the distance with improvements, useful features and more, while reiser3 languished. The last straw was when I started getting fs errors for no good reason. Let's face it, reiser was Hans. The team he left behind can do maintenance and bug-fixes, but how many features have you seen added in two years? unless I can use reiser4? good idea? discuss-caveats Yuck. It's not in mainline and will never go in mainline. It's not in the tree and will never go in the tree. Hmm ... that's not what is mooted here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NzY4OQ My understanding is it never actually got finished; and with all those plugins it is just not possible to write a *real* fsck. I would not touch it myself with your bargepole. It seems that it is still under development, but perhaps not as fast as it were when Hans Reiser was at it full time. I have been using reiser4 for almost a year. It *is* fast! http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=reiser4_benchmarksnum=1 However, Alan's point about a aheam! questionable fsck.reiser4 seems correct if my experience is anything to go by: I've had a number of fs corruptions (could be dodgy hardware?) and some of them have not recovered gracefully. :-( Some data (files) were lost a couple of times. I don't know if I should blame the disk, the fs or the fsck.reiser4 command, but it is clear to me that reiser4 is not as reliable as reiserfs was for me for over 6 years. YMMV. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: On Thursday 18 November 2010 19:20:51 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Should I now run emerge -e world? If so, I suppose I should stop cron from running an emerge --sync during the night. I used to do the same with reiserfs, but since I borked badly a reiser4 fs I decided it is safer to use a LiveCD for this job. So I have to say YMMV. ;-) I am not sure I understand. If I use a liveCD, won't I have to chroot to the disk with my real system? In that case can't I get the same fs breakage? allan
Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:20:52PM -0600, Dale wrote This is mine and it worked when I rebooted a bit ago. LABEL=boot/bootext2noatime1 2 LABEL=root /reiserfsdefaults0 1 LABEL=swapnoneswapsw0 0 LABEL=portage/usr/portageext3defaults0 1 LABEL=home/homereiserfsdefaults1 1 LABEL=data/datareiserfsdefaults0 1 I use a variety of file systems don't I? lol I hope that helps. I have my own weird setup that optimizes disk usage, without LVM. It consists of a 256 *MEGA*byte / partition (ext2fs), some swap, and the rest of the drive is one big reiserfs3 partition mounted as /home. /opt, /var, /usr/, and /tmp physically reside on the big /home partition, but are bindmounted into the / partition. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 121601 9767600015 Extended /dev/sda5 1 33 265009+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 341209 9446188+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda71210 121601 967048708+ 83 Linux /dev/sda5 / ext2 noatime,nodiratime,async0 1 /dev/sda7 /home reiserfs noatime,nodiratime,async,notail 0 1 /home/bindmounts/opt/opt auto bind0 0 /home/bindmounts/var/var auto bind0 0 /home/bindmounts/usr/usr auto bind0 0 /home/bindmounts/tmp/tmp auto bind0 0 /dev/sda6 none swap sw0 0 -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:21:23PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote I must be getting old and forgetful. Forgot about that post. What were we talking about again? They say that memory is the second thing to go; I forget what the first is. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
[gentoo-user] FYI - 2.6.38 desktop responsiveness patch + how to do it now
2.6.38 should contain a ~200 line patch that makes a huge difference to desktop responsiveness under load; Tests done by Mike show the maximum latency dropping by over ten times and the average latency of the desktop by about 60 times Ref: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2637_videonum=1 And a RedHat dev reckons you can get the same via configuration; Ref: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/alternative-to-200-lines-kernel-patch.html I havent tried it yet...
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 02:59:32AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote How would your method of handling USE have assisted in preventing that breakage? Please note that the breakage in jpeg is much *much* more common than changes to default USE. This is not about ipv6 or hal or dbus in particular. My approach is to only have the bare minimum necessary flags, and not allow *ANY NEW AND UNNECESSARY OPTIONAL* flags. Any additional extra stuff involves additional bloat and complexity, and a chance of breakage. If Dale had had -*, a *NEW OPTIONAL* use flag (e.g. hal) would not have been implemented for X. Some other ebuild that had hal as a hard-coded dependancy might have pulled it, but X still wouldn't have linked to it. I can't fully browse the web without jpeg enebled, I get occasional jpeg photos in emails, and the camera club I belong to insists on all uploads being in jpeg format. So yes, jpeg is necessary *FOR ME*. I accept it into USE, because it of that. So far, I've done OK without ipv6, or hal, or dbus, and I will continue to do without them until/ unless they offer me additional functionality that I want/need. I do get the occasional complaint from emerge when application A requires that application B be emerged with a specific USE flag that I don't have enabled. If I want/need application A, then I will insert the required flag for application B into /etc/package.use. Once I see several entries for that flag in /etc/package.use, I'll run... USE=flag emerge -pv --update --newuse world ...and see what else links to it. If it doesn't look bad, I'll move the flag into USE. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?
On 19/11/2010, at 12:57am, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: Should I now run emerge -e world? If so, I suppose I should stop cron from running an emerge --sync during the night. I used to do the same with reiserfs, but since I borked badly a reiser4 fs I decided it is safer to use a LiveCD for this job. So I have to say YMMV. ;-) I am not sure I understand. If I use a liveCD, won't I have to chroot to the disk with my real system? In that case can't I get the same fs breakage? You don't have to chroot to run fsck. You can just boot from the LiveCD and run `fsck -o -p -t -i -o -n -s /dev/sda1`. I feel a bit more confident fscking my root filesystem from a LiveCD, because you know that you're not repairing the floor you're standing on, and fsck can have full leeway to do what it needs to do to clear up the problem properly. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:52:39AM +, Stroller wrote You claim to be a control freak but you seem to be doing this to avoid the chore of properly inspecting USE flags each time you emerge. If you `emerge --pretend` before every update you make, you would see what's changed! What's the point in running `emerge --pretend` if you don't look at it!?!? Further to the aside in the email I sent a minute or two ago, all the changed USE flags in Portage's output show up in bright yellow or green, BTW, so they're easy to spot. Actually, I do run emerge -pv --update world before doing the real thing. As I mentioned in another email, my minimalist approach to USE flags occasionally results in emerge complaining that application A requires that application B be emarged with a flag that I don't have enabled. In that case, I do have to do something. I always take a quick scan to see what has changed. I realize that being a control-freak and micro-managing my system takes a bit of extra work, but it's worth it for me. Robo-emerging is what looks risky to me. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: On 19/11/2010, at 12:57am, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: Should I now run emerge -e world? If so, I suppose I should stop cron from running an emerge --sync during the night. I used to do the same with reiserfs, but since I borked badly a reiser4 fs I decided it is safer to use a LiveCD for this job. So I have to say YMMV. ;-) I am not sure I understand. If I use a liveCD, won't I have to chroot to the disk with my real system? In that case can't I get the same fs breakage? You don't have to chroot to run fsck. You can just boot from the LiveCD and run `fsck -o -p -t -i -o -n -s /dev/sda1`. I feel a bit more confident fscking my root filesystem from a LiveCD, because you know that you're not repairing the floor you're standing on, and fsck can have full leeway to do what it needs to do to clear up the problem properly. The question was about emerge -e world not fsck (see quoted material above). The fsck succeeded prior to this (I did touch /forcefsck; reboot). thanks, allan
[gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
On 2010-11-18, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 18 November 2010 15:48:23 Grant Edwards wrote: You can adjust synaptics changing the configuration on the /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi file. man 4 synaptic can give you a lot of extra options. That only works if you're using the synaptics driver -- which I'm not. I haven't figured out how to do that yet. It was built, since I included it in INPUT_DEVICES, but HAL decided not to use it. What does your Xorg.0.log say about synaptics? $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep synaptics (II) LoadModule: synaptics (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so (II) Module synaptics: vendor=X.Org Foundation $ grep -i synaptic /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) config/hal: Adding input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: always reports core events (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Device: /dev/input/event6 (II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Found 3 mouse buttons (II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Found absolute axes (II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Found x and y absolute axes (II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Found absolute touchpad. (II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Configuring as touchpad (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (type: TOUCHPAD) (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) acceleration profile 0 (II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: initialized for absolute axes. $ emerge --search synaptics Searching... [ Results for search key : synaptics ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics Latest version available: 1.2.1 Latest version installed: 1.2.1 Size of files: 288 kB Homepage: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics/ Description: Driver for Synaptics touchpads License: MIT $ grep -i synaptics /etc/make.conf INPUT_DEVICES=evdev keyboard mouse synaptics $ find /usr/lib -name '*synaptics*' /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so /usr/lib/pkgconfig/xorg-synaptics.pc
Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?
Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu writes: Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: On 19/11/2010, at 12:57am, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: Should I now run emerge -e world? If so, I suppose I should stop cron from running an emerge --sync during the night. I used to do the same with reiserfs, but since I borked badly a reiser4 fs I decided it is safer to use a LiveCD for this job. So I have to say YMMV. ;-) I am not sure I understand. If I use a liveCD, won't I have to chroot to the disk with my real system? In that case can't I get the same fs breakage? You don't have to chroot to run fsck. You can just boot from the LiveCD and run `fsck -o -p -t -i -o -n -s /dev/sda1`. I feel a bit more confident fscking my root filesystem from a LiveCD, because you know that you're not repairing the floor you're standing on, and fsck can have full leeway to do what it needs to do to clear up the problem properly. The question was about emerge -e world not fsck (see quoted material above). The fsck succeeded prior to this (I did touch /forcefsck; reboot). thanks, allan I now understand your comment better. I should have run my previous fsck's under a liveCD. You are right and I am running them again now under a liveCD. I am please to report that no errors were found. So is it now an appropriate time for me to run an emerge -e world I do not mind taking this machine offline for the few days of the emerge. thanks again, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] FYI - 2.6.38 desktop responsiveness patch + how to do it now
Am 19.11.2010 03:37, schrieb Adam Carter: 2.6.38 should contain a ~200 line patch that makes a huge difference to desktop responsiveness under load; Tests done by Mike show the maximum latency dropping by over ten times and the average latency of the desktop by about 60 times Ref: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2637_videonum=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2637_videonum=1 And a RedHat dev reckons you can get the same via configuration; Ref: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/alternative-to-200-lines-kernel-patch.html I havent tried it yet... Very interesting. Finally something to make cgroup scheduling worthwhile. Thanks! I'll try it. Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends emerge text output to stderr, not stdout
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:21:33AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote Blaming the devs for your broken modem/router is rather unfair. If you'd known it was unable to handle IPv6 correctly, why didn't you set the flag accordingly? My ISP didn't support ipv6 at that time. They're now running a beta for native ipv6 (no tunneling) but I don't have the time to play with bleeding edge stuff. Regardless of the fact that my router/modem does or does not support ipv6, if I don't have ipv6 service from my ISP (or a tunnel broker) ipv6 is pointless. If you didn't know, HTH were the devs supposed to know? The devs *CHANGED AN EXISTING DEFAULT FLAG* from -ipv6 to ipv6. What percentage of the user base was running ipv6 a couple of years ago? Why couldn't they have left the default at -ipv6? Ever heard of the principle of least surprise aka the principle of least astonishment? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment Unnecessarily changing defaults violates that principle in the worst way. There's an old saying... * good judgement is the result of experience * experience is the result of bad judgement As a result of my experience with the ipv6 flag, I no longer robo-update. Note that in the first post of this thread, I said... I normally... emerge -pv --deep --update world | less ...before updating, to check for booby-traps. So you see, I did learn from my experience. I do check for stuff like this now. As an additional safety measure, I also begin the USE variable with -*. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends emerge text output to stderr, not stdout
Walter Dnes wrote: So you see, I did learn from my experience. I do check for stuff like this now. As an additional safety measure, I also begin the USE variable with -*. I'm starting to like the way Walter thinks. LOL Dale :-) :-)
