[gentoo-user] Seamonkey and Firefox clash over rust version.
Howdy, I've been dealing with this for a while. When I do my updates, it either omits seamonkey because the rust version installed is to new or downgrades rust. I keyworded rust to see if emerge could sort it out itself but Seamonkey then complains about the newer version of rust. This is just one example of what I get. root@fireball / # emerge -auDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] dev-lang/rust-bin-1.53.0:stable::gentoo USE="-clippy -doc (-prefix) -rls -rustfmt -verify-sig" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse2" 358,655 KiB [ebuild UD ] virtual/rust-1.53.0-r1::gentoo [1.55.0::gentoo] USE="-rustfmt" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB [ebuild U ] dev-lang/rust-1.56.1:stable/1.56::gentoo [1.55.0:stable/1.55::gentoo] USE="-clippy -debug -doc (-miri) (-nightly) (-parallel-compiler) -rls -rust-src% -rustfmt (-system-bootstrap) (-system-llvm) -test -verify-sig -wasm" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse2" LLVM_TARGETS="(X86) -AArch64 -AMDGPU -ARM -AVR -BPF -Hexagon -Lanai -MSP430 -Mips -NVPTX -PowerPC -RISCV -Sparc -SystemZ -WebAssembly -XCore" 477,539 KiB [ebuild U ] virtual/rust-1.56.1::gentoo [1.55.0::gentoo] USE="-rustfmt" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB Total: 4 packages (2 upgrades, 1 downgrade, 1 new), Size of downloads: 836,193 KiB !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: virtual/rust:0 (virtual/rust-1.56.1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) USE="-rustfmt" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" pulled in by =virtual/rust-1.56.1 required by (www-client/firefox-95.0.1-r1:0/95::gentoo, installed) USE="clang dbus gmp-autoupdate openh264 -debug -eme-free -geckodriver -hardened -hwaccel -jack -lto -pgo -pulseaudio -screencast (-selinux) -sndio (-system-av1) -system-harfbuzz -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libevent -system-libvpx -system-png -system-webp -wayland -wifi" ABI_X86="(64)" L10N="-ach -af -an -ar -ast -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -ca-valencia -cak -cs -cy -da -de -dsb -el -en-CA -en-GB -eo -es-AR -es-CL -es-ES -es-MX -et -eu -fa -ff -fi -fr -fy -ga -gd -gl -gn -gu -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -hy -ia -id -is -it -ja -ka -kab -kk -km -kn -ko -lij -lt -lv -mk -mr -ms -my -nb -ne -nl -nn -oc -pa -pl -pt-BR -pt-PT -rm -ro -ru -sco -si -sk -sl -son -sq -sr -sv -szl -ta -te -th -tl -tr -trs -uk -ur -uz -vi -xh -zh-CN -zh-TW" ^ ^^
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: whats a good laptop for gentoo these days?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:59:09AM +0100, Marco Rebhan wrote: > Take a look at the Framework laptop if you value repairability and > customizability! I don't have one myself (yet, it's going to be my next > laptop though), but there seems to be great Linux support and an active > Linux support community. > https://frame.work/blog/linux-on-the-framework-laptop > > -Marco I've had a good experience with AVADirect. They also have very good online reviews. They will tell you if a particular laptop is compatible with linux, and will even install Ubuntu if you request. They use mainly rebranded Clevo's (made in Taiwan I believe).
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the difference between emerge's --changed-deps=y and @changed-deps?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 01:59:13AM +0100, Morgan Wesström wrote: > On a freshly updated system (emerge -uDN @world): > > "emerge @changed-deps" wants to reinstall 0 packages. > > "emerge -u --changed-deps=y" wants to reinstall 24 packages. > > "emerge -uD --changed-deps=y" wants to reinstall 181 packages. > > A couple of years ago there was a build breakage in Portage because, as I > understood it at the time, some developer changed the dependencies in an > existing ebuild without bumping its revision level. The solution was to use > --changed-deps=y to catch these occurrences and I've been using it in my > regular update routine since then. But as you can see in the third example > above, it usually wants to reinstall hundreds of packages that doesn't have > any > updated versions and I'm wondering if this is working as intended. I have a > hard time believing that gentoo devs are pushing changes to existing ebuilds > in > such numbers on a regular basis without bumping the revision level. > > Some time ago I became aware that Portage now has a @changed-deps set, which > I > assumed was accomplishing the same thing, but it doesn't produce the same > result as --changed-deps=y - usually just a dozen reinstalls or so. > > Can someone please elaborate on what's going on here, what the difference is > between --changed-deps=y and @changed-deps, if that difference is intended > and > what the recommended update procedure is these days to catch these and other > kinds of inconsistencies in Portage? > > Regards > Morgan Don't know if it's relevant or not but recently upstream deprecated the "KERNEL" USE flag, resulting in many rebuilds for packages.
[gentoo-user] What is the difference between emerge's --changed-deps=y and @changed-deps?
On a freshly updated system (emerge -uDN @world): "emerge @changed-deps" wants to reinstall 0 packages. "emerge -u --changed-deps=y" wants to reinstall 24 packages. "emerge -uD --changed-deps=y" wants to reinstall 181 packages. A couple of years ago there was a build breakage in Portage because, as I understood it at the time, some developer changed the dependencies in an existing ebuild without bumping its revision level. The solution was to use --changed-deps=y to catch these occurrences and I've been using it in my regular update routine since then. But as you can see in the third example above, it usually wants to reinstall hundreds of packages that doesn't have any updated versions and I'm wondering if this is working as intended. I have a hard time believing that gentoo devs are pushing changes to existing ebuilds in such numbers on a regular basis without bumping the revision level. Some time ago I became aware that Portage now has a @changed-deps set, which I assumed was accomplishing the same thing, but it doesn't produce the same result as --changed-deps=y - usually just a dozen reinstalls or so. Can someone please elaborate on what's going on here, what the difference is between --changed-deps=y and @changed-deps, if that difference is intended and what the recommended update procedure is these days to catch these and other kinds of inconsistencies in Portage? Regards Morgan
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: whats a good laptop for gentoo these days?
On 10/1/22 00:26, Jack wrote: On 1/9/22 07:49, William Kenworthy wrote: My MS surface pro4 has died (swelling battery has popped the screen - known problem) so I am looking for a better replacement. I bought it new years ago but it only got good Linux support (touchscreen etc.) in the last couple of years so its been a bit frustrating. So the question is - whats a good replacement? Criteria is good battery life, can dual boot windows (this is my only windows machine these days and there are still some cases - Logitech harmony remote for one) and gentoo with everything working/supported. I do like the tablet with detachable physical keyboard design but I mostly use it with keyboard attached. And non-microsoft hardware is preferred (the sp4 failure is a design issue for which MS suffered a class action lawsuit to get them to honour the warranty - I don't want a repeat) BillK Do you really need/want dual boot, or would Windows in a VM work? No, has to be a hardware install. Trying to do usb flashing using vm's (which I have) has not worked well. (logitech harmony, bluefin, ...) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed
пн, 10 янв. 2022 г. в 01:29, gevisz : > > вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 16:52, Mark Knecht : > > > > On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 3:59 AM gevisz wrote: > > > > > > вс, 21 нояб. 2021 г. в 17:12, Mark Knecht : > > > > > > > > Congrats! > > > > > > Thank you. However, it was not for long. On 30-12-2021 recompilation > > > of the same tensorflow-2.7.0 because of some changed dependencies > > > failed with the same f**ng "Bazel failed" error as before. > > > > > > So, I am currently going to degrade my Gentoo system to the state it > > > was in on 12-12-2021, when its last update was successful and froze it > > > forever. > > > > > > The problem is that I do not know how to do it but I am going to post > > > this question as a separate thread. (I am using webrsync method.) > > > > > > > Sorry for the problems. I saw your other thread about downgrading > > Gentoo. I agree with the other responses you got there that Gentoo, in > > general, does not support standing still much less going backward. > > > > I will offer what will probably not be a popular comment but my > > opinion is Gentoo is exactly the wrong sort of distribution for doing > > work in tensorflow. With all of it's updates, limited testing of > > packages, extreme amounts of code building, and not being a distro > > that the official tensorflow folks even verify on, it's just too hard. > > (And a contributing factor to how I moved away in the beginning.) > > > > My thought is that you might create a 20.04 LTS Ubuntu VM (or possibly > > an LXC container) running whatever your desktop flavor of Gentoo is - > > I run Kubuntu - and just run tensorflow in the VM. You won't easily > > get GPU support unless you deal with passthrough, but the software > > will just work and you won't spend time dealing with building code > > which can be spent coding tensorflow. > > > > If you insist on running in Gentoo consider the LXD container running > > an older rev of Gentoo. (If you can find one) Get it working, if you > > can, and then never update it. > > > > lxc image list images: gentoo > > > > There are openrc and systemd versions available, but a Kubuntu stable > > container would more likely to 'just work' IMO. > > Thank you for your reply, Mark. > > Unfortunately, you missed my previous message in this thread > where I wrote that I do have Ubuntu 20.04 on the same computer. Correction: > However, tensorflow fails to run on it because it is compiled > to be inconsistent with my videocard. So, Gentoo is my only option > for this hardware.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed
вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 16:52, Mark Knecht : > > On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 3:59 AM gevisz wrote: > > > > вс, 21 нояб. 2021 г. в 17:12, Mark Knecht : > > > > > > Congrats! > > > > Thank you. However, it was not for long. On 30-12-2021 recompilation > > of the same tensorflow-2.7.0 because of some changed dependencies > > failed with the same f**ng "Bazel failed" error as before. > > > > So, I am currently going to degrade my Gentoo system to the state it > > was in on 12-12-2021, when its last update was successful and froze it > > forever. > > > > The problem is that I do not know how to do it but I am going to post > > this question as a separate thread. (I am using webrsync method.) > > > > Sorry for the problems. I saw your other thread about downgrading > Gentoo. I agree with the other responses you got there that Gentoo, in > general, does not support standing still much less going backward. > > I will offer what will probably not be a popular comment but my > opinion is Gentoo is exactly the wrong sort of distribution for doing > work in tensorflow. With all of it's updates, limited testing of > packages, extreme amounts of code building, and not being a distro > that the official tensorflow folks even verify on, it's just too hard. > (And a contributing factor to how I moved away in the beginning.) > > My thought is that you might create a 20.04 LTS Ubuntu VM (or possibly > an LXC container) running whatever your desktop flavor of Gentoo is - > I run Kubuntu - and just run tensorflow in the VM. You won't easily > get GPU support unless you deal with passthrough, but the software > will just work and you won't spend time dealing with building code > which can be spent coding tensorflow. > > If you insist on running in Gentoo consider the LXD container running > an older rev of Gentoo. (If you can find one) Get it working, if you > can, and then never update it. > > lxc image list images: gentoo > > There are openrc and systemd versions available, but a Kubuntu stable > container would more likely to 'just work' IMO. Thank you for your reply, Mark. Unfortunately, you missed my previous message in this thread where I wrote that I do have Ubuntu 20.04 on the same computer. However, tensorflow fails to run on it because it is not compiled to be inconsistent with my videocard. So, Gentoo is my only option for this hardware.
[gentoo-user] Re: Portage detects fake "world file problems" and packages that don't exist
On 09/01/2022 12:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 22:44:08 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: emerge -auDU @world !!! Problems have been detected with your world file !!! Please run emaint --check world !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all !!! masked or don't exist: media-sound/pavucontrol media-sound/pulseeffects sys-block/gparted My world file is fine and "emaint --check world" doesn't find anything. Have you edited your world file manually? I wonder if you could have introduced some non-ASCII characters or changed line endings - something that portage objects to but emaint doesn't. I checked and there's nothing weird in there. I even deleted the world file, and then recreated it by doing "emerge --noreplace" all these packages. Portage then re-created the world file. Same result. I then spend some time trying to find the packages that cause the problem. I tracked it down to media-sound/pulseeffects. If I remove just that one package from the world file, then the error message is gone, but also "emerge -uDU @world" is now much faster. This package is probably triggering a portage bug.
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage detects fake "world file problems" and packages that don't exist
On Sunday, 9 January 2022 10:00:52 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > Top Oxymorons Number 19: Passive aggression > Top Oxymorons Number 20: Emotional intelligence. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:46:17 +, Wol wrote: > But in there it has the line(s) > > =package.version ~amd64 > > I've deliberately used the "=" so for it, and every package it depends > on, that version will be accepted. Aiui, if the stable version goes > above that it will then upgrade to the stable version, so that my > system will be pretty much just stable packages. I'd use ~ instead of = so it will accept -r1, -r2, etc. variants of that version, to pick up any bug fixes. Once one of those variants, or a higher version, becomes stable you'll be back on stable and eix-test-obsolete will let you know you can remove the entry. -- Neil Bothwick Quality control, n.: Assuring that the quality of a product does not get out of hand and add to the cost of its manufacture or design. pgpTP7MU9eriK.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: whats a good laptop for gentoo these days?
On 1/9/22 07:49, William Kenworthy wrote: My MS surface pro4 has died (swelling battery has popped the screen - known problem) so I am looking for a better replacement. I bought it new years ago but it only got good Linux support (touchscreen etc.) in the last couple of years so its been a bit frustrating. So the question is - whats a good replacement? Criteria is good battery life, can dual boot windows (this is my only windows machine these days and there are still some cases - Logitech harmony remote for one) and gentoo with everything working/supported. I do like the tablet with detachable physical keyboard design but I mostly use it with keyboard attached. And non-microsoft hardware is preferred (the sp4 failure is a design issue for which MS suffered a class action lawsuit to get them to honour the warranty - I don't want a repeat) BillK Do you really need/want dual boot, or would Windows in a VM work?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed
On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 3:59 AM gevisz wrote: > > вс, 21 нояб. 2021 г. в 17:12, Mark Knecht : > > > > Congrats! > > Thank you. However, it was not for long. On 30-12-2021 recompilation > of the same tensorflow-2.7.0 because of some changed dependencies > failed with the same f**ng "Bazel failed" error as before. > > So, I am currently going to degrade my Gentoo system to the state it > was in on 12-12-2021, when its last update was successful and froze it > forever. > > The problem is that I do not know how to do it but I am going to post > this question as a separate thread. (I am using webrsync method.) > Sorry for the problems. I saw your other thread about downgrading Gentoo. I agree with the other responses you got there that Gentoo, in general, does not support standing still much less going backward. I will offer what will probably not be a popular comment but my opinion is Gentoo is exactly the wrong sort of distribution for doing work in tensorflow. With all of it's updates, limited testing of packages, extreme amounts of code building, and not being a distro that the official tensorflow folks even verify on, it's just too hard. (And a contributing factor to how I moved away in the beginning.) My thought is that you might create a 20.04 LTS Ubuntu VM (or possibly an LXC container) running whatever your desktop flavor of Gentoo is - I run Kubuntu - and just run tensorflow in the VM. You won't easily get GPU support unless you deal with passthrough, but the software will just work and you won't spend time dealing with building code which can be spent coding tensorflow. If you insist on running in Gentoo consider the LXD container running an older rev of Gentoo. (If you can find one) Get it working, if you can, and then never update it. lxc image list images: gentoo There are openrc and systemd versions available, but a Kubuntu stable container would more likely to 'just work' IMO. Good luck, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?
On 09/01/2022 13:39, Dale wrote: As a starting point, check the ebuild and see what all packages are listed there that it depends on. Put the needed entries in package.mask and then use your world upgrade command plus -p to see what emerge wants to upgrade. Keep adding until it is reporting nothing to upgrade. The packages in the ebuild should help save some time. I can't think of a easier way to do it. Someone else may have ideas tho. Oh, don't forget the ">=" signs and to specify versions. Can't recall if it matters which symbol comes first. Or do you want to use package.accept_keywords I had a package that was in testing, so I've ended up creating a file in there called - I think the package was avidemux so that's what it's called ... But in there it has the line(s) =package.version ~amd64 I've deliberately used the "=" so for it, and every package it depends on, that version will be accepted. Aiui, if the stable version goes above that it will then upgrade to the stable version, so that my system will be pretty much just stable packages. I also made the mistake of doing ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge blah blah ... which upgraded glibc! So now I need to configure this to keep the current version of glibc and wait till the stable version goes past. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?
вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 15:40, Dale : > > gevisz wrote: > > вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:43, Dale : > >> gevisz wrote: > >>> вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:08, Arve Barsnes : > On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 12:48, gevisz wrote: > > The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository > > to the state it was on 12-12-2021. > > > > I use webrsync sync method via "emaint -A sync" and would prefer > > to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system. > > > > Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method? > This is probably not possible at all using any of the tools available. > These tools only support downloading the latest snapshot to get you up > to date. Additionally, most mirrors only keep snapshots of the last 7 > days or so, so it would take some (possibly futile) effort to find a > snapshot of the date you need. > > The only option, as far as I can see, is to migrate your portage tree > to git, where you can specify a commit that you want to sync to from > the wanted day. > >>> It is a pity, but thank you for the answer. > >> I'm not sure if I'm understanding completely the problem here but > >> thought I'd suggest something. Can you not just mask newer versions of > >> the package so emerge won't update it until you are ready? I do that > >> sometimes here. I've did it with smplayer at one point because some > >> changes broke things for me. I kept it from upgrading for months until > >> things got fixed. I then removed the mask, while keeping the old ebuild > >> and even a binary of the package, and allowed emerge to upgrade > >> smplayer. At that point, things worked for me that didn't before. > >> > >> The only downside to this, things your package depends on may go past > >> what your package supports and you run into issues. As the other person > >> said, it's best to figure out why your package fails and fix that, then > >> you can worry about new problems. ;-) Masking the newer version may > >> work at least in the meantime though. Give you time to sort out the > >> failure. > > Thank you for your reply, Dale. > > > > Yes, masking some new package can work in this case. > > > > However, it is not so easy as it may seem because it is not the new > > version of tensorflow that I should mask in my case as on the day > > when the tensorflow recompilation failed its version remained the same > > and only some of its dependencies were supposed to be upgraded. > > > > Of course, I may try this approach. However, tensorflow is not > > considered stable in gentoo tree and it has a lot of dependencies > > that are also not considered stable and should be unmasked. > > > > All this leads to a large number of possible choices on > > which packages to mask/unmask. > > > > So, playing with this is like playing in a casino with about > > 4 hours of compilation for each bet. > > As a starting point, check the ebuild and see what all packages are > listed there that it depends on. Put the needed entries in package.mask > and then use your world upgrade command plus -p to see what emerge wants > to upgrade. Keep adding until it is reporting nothing to upgrade. The > packages in the ebuild should help save some time. I can't think of an > easier way to do it. Someone else may have ideas thogh. Oh, don't forget > the ">=" signs and to specify versions. Can't recall if it matters > which symbol comes first. Thank you. I probably should also look into the emerge logs to see which of the tensorflow dependencies was updated the last time, when its recompilation failed.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: whats a good laptop for gentoo these days?
On 09/01/2022 12:49, William Kenworthy wrote: My MS surface pro4 has died (swelling battery has popped the screen - known problem) so I am looking for a better replacement. I bought it new years ago but it only got good Linux support (touchscreen etc.) in the last couple of years so its been a bit frustrating. So the question is - whats a good replacement? Criteria is good battery life, can dual boot windows (this is my only windows machine these days and there are still some cases - Logitech harmony remote for one) and gentoo with everything working/supported. I do like the tablet with detachable physical keyboard design but I mostly use it with keyboard attached. And non-microsoft hardware is preferred (the sp4 failure is a design issue for which MS suffered a class action lawsuit to get them to honour the warranty - I don't want a repeat) BillK I've bought a laptop off these people ... https://junocomputers.com/product-category/laptops/ They're UK or US but I guess they probably can ship to you. I bought the NyX 14 v2 or similar for my wife (weight was the primary concern, at 1.2kg her previous laptop was heavy, this added 2" on the screen for 100g but was the lightest I could find that wasn't an astronomic price). I'm looking at the NyX 15 AMD v2 for me, I want AMD and don't want more than a 15" screen. I've had a 17" - it's too big for a laptop. Luggable, maybe ... :-) You can get a Windows Pro OEM licence pretty cheap off Amazon or wherever, I configured my wife's laptop as dual boot. However, it was some grief. Make sure you install linux first or you'll find the EFI partition is too small to multi-boot. And whatever you choose make sure you investigate upping the spec, I think the difference between a 256GB or 512GB m2 was about £10 ... Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?
gevisz wrote: > вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:43, Dale : >> gevisz wrote: >>> вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:08, Arve Barsnes : On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 12:48, gevisz wrote: > The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository > to the state it was on 12-12-2021. > > I use webrsync sync method via "emaint -A sync" and would prefer > to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system. > > Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method? This is probably not possible at all using any of the tools available. These tools only support downloading the latest snapshot to get you up to date. Additionally, most mirrors only keep snapshots of the last 7 days or so, so it would take some (possibly futile) effort to find a snapshot of the date you need. The only option, as far as I can see, is to migrate your portage tree to git, where you can specify a commit that you want to sync to from the wanted day. >>> It is a pity, but thank you for the answer. >> I'm not sure if I'm understanding completely the problem here but >> thought I'd suggest something. Can you not just mask newer versions of >> the package so emerge won't update it until you are ready? I do that >> sometimes here. I've did it with smplayer at one point because some >> changes broke things for me. I kept it from upgrading for months until >> things got fixed. I then removed the mask, while keeping the old ebuild >> and even a binary of the package, and allowed emerge to upgrade >> smplayer. At that point, things worked for me that didn't before. >> >> The only downside to this, things your package depends on may go past >> what your package supports and you run into issues. As the other person >> said, it's best to figure out why your package fails and fix that, then >> you can worry about new problems. ;-) Masking the newer version may >> work at least in the meantime though. Give you time to sort out the failure. > Thank you for your reply, Dale. > > Yes, masking some new package can work in this case. > > However, it is not so easy as it may seem because it is not the new > version of tensorflow that I should mask in my case as on the day > when the tensorflow recompilation failed its version remained the same > and only some of its dependencies were supposed to be upgraded. > > Of course, I may try this approach. However, tensorflow is not > considered stable in gentoo tree and it has a lot of dependencies > that are also not considered stable and should be unmasked. > > All this leads to a large number of possible choices on > which packages to mask/unmask. > > So, playing with this is like playing in a casino with about > 4 hours of compilation for each bet. > > As a starting point, check the ebuild and see what all packages are listed there that it depends on. Put the needed entries in package.mask and then use your world upgrade command plus -p to see what emerge wants to upgrade. Keep adding until it is reporting nothing to upgrade. The packages in the ebuild should help save some time. I can't think of a easier way to do it. Someone else may have ideas tho. Oh, don't forget the ">=" signs and to specify versions. Can't recall if it matters which symbol comes first. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?
вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:43, Dale : > > gevisz wrote: > > вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:08, Arve Barsnes : > >> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 12:48, gevisz wrote: > >>> The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository > >>> to the state it was on 12-12-2021. > >>> > >>> I use webrsync sync method via "emaint -A sync" and would prefer > >>> to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system. > >>> > >>> Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method? > >> This is probably not possible at all using any of the tools available. > >> These tools only support downloading the latest snapshot to get you up > >> to date. Additionally, most mirrors only keep snapshots of the last 7 > >> days or so, so it would take some (possibly futile) effort to find a > >> snapshot of the date you need. > >> > >> The only option, as far as I can see, is to migrate your portage tree > >> to git, where you can specify a commit that you want to sync to from > >> the wanted day. > > It is a pity, but thank you for the answer. > > I'm not sure if I'm understanding completely the problem here but > thought I'd suggest something. Can you not just mask newer versions of > the package so emerge won't update it until you are ready? I do that > sometimes here. I've did it with smplayer at one point because some > changes broke things for me. I kept it from upgrading for months until > things got fixed. I then removed the mask, while keeping the old ebuild > and even a binary of the package, and allowed emerge to upgrade > smplayer. At that point, things worked for me that didn't before. > > The only downside to this, things your package depends on may go past > what your package supports and you run into issues. As the other person > said, it's best to figure out why your package fails and fix that, then > you can worry about new problems. ;-) Masking the newer version may > work at least in the meantime though. Give you time to sort out the failure. Thank you for your reply, Dale. Yes, masking some new package can work in this case. However, it is not so easy as it may seem because it is not the new version of tensorflow that I should mask in my case as on the day when the tensorflow recompilation failed its version remained the same and only some of its dependencies were supposed to be upgraded. Of course, I may try this approach. However, tensorflow is not considered stable in gentoo tree and it has a lot of dependencies that are also not considered stable and should be unmasked. All this leads to a large number of possible choices on which packages to mask/unmask. So, playing with this is like playing in a casino with about 4 hours of compilation for each bet.
[gentoo-user] OT: whats a good laptop for gentoo these days?
My MS surface pro4 has died (swelling battery has popped the screen - known problem) so I am looking for a better replacement. I bought it new years ago but it only got good Linux support (touchscreen etc.) in the last couple of years so its been a bit frustrating. So the question is - whats a good replacement? Criteria is good battery life, can dual boot windows (this is my only windows machine these days and there are still some cases - Logitech harmony remote for one) and gentoo with everything working/supported. I do like the tablet with detachable physical keyboard design but I mostly use it with keyboard attached. And non-microsoft hardware is preferred (the sp4 failure is a design issue for which MS suffered a class action lawsuit to get them to honour the warranty - I don't want a repeat) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?
gevisz wrote: > вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:08, Arve Barsnes : >> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 12:48, gevisz wrote: >>> The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository >>> to the state it was on 12-12-2021. >>> >>> I use webrsync sync method via "emaint -A sync" and would prefer >>> to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system. >>> >>> Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method? >> This is probably not possible at all using any of the tools available. >> These tools only support downloading the latest snapshot to get you up >> to date. Additionally, most mirrors only keep snapshots of the last 7 >> days or so, so it would take some (possibly futile) effort to find a >> snapshot of the date you need. >> >> The only option, as far as I can see, is to migrate your portage tree >> to git, where you can specify a commit that you want to sync to from >> the wanted day. > It is a pity, but thank you for the answer. > > I'm not sure if I'm understanding completely the problem here but thought I'd suggest something. Can you not just mask newer versions of the package so emerge won't update it until you are ready? I do that sometimes here. I've did it with smplayer at one point because some changes broke things for me. I kept it from upgrading for months until things got fixed. I then removed the mask, while keeping the old ebuild and even a binary of the package, and allowed emerge to upgrade smplayer. At that point, things worked for me that didn't before. The only downside to this, things your package depends on may go past what your package supports and you run into issues. As the other person said, it's best to figure out why your package fails and fix that, then you can worry about new problems. ;-) Masking the newer version may work at least in the meantime tho. Give you time to sort out the failure. Just a thought. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?
вс, 9 янв. 2022 г. в 14:08, Arve Barsnes : > > On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 12:48, gevisz wrote: > > The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository > > to the state it was on 12-12-2021. > > > > I use webrsync sync method via "emaint -A sync" and would prefer > > to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system. > > > > Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method? > > This is probably not possible at all using any of the tools available. > These tools only support downloading the latest snapshot to get you up > to date. Additionally, most mirrors only keep snapshots of the last 7 > days or so, so it would take some (possibly futile) effort to find a > snapshot of the date you need. > > The only option, as far as I can see, is to migrate your portage tree > to git, where you can specify a commit that you want to sync to from > the wanted day. It is a pity, but thank you for the answer.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 12:48, gevisz wrote: > The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository > to the state it was on 12-12-2021. > > I use webrsync sync method via "maint -A sync" and would prefer > to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system. > > Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method? This is probably not possible at all using any of the tools available. These tools only support downloading the latest snapshot to get you up to date. Additionally, most mirrors only keep snapshots of the last 7 days or so, so it would take some (possibly futile) effort to find a snapshot of the date you need. The only option, as far as I ca nsee, is to migrate your portage tree to git, where you can specify a commit that you want to sync to from the wanted day. The better option would of course be to figure out why your tensorflow compiles keeps failing, if that is possible. Regards, Arve
[gentoo-user] How to degrade Gentoo system with webrsync method?
I constantly have problems with updating/recompiling tensorflow. Sometimes, it compiles ok but most of the time it is not. The last time when it failed to recompile was on 30-12-2021. I reported this in the thread "tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed" So, I decided to degrade my Gentoo system to the state in which it was on 12-12-2021, when my tensorflow was still ok, and froze it forever. The problem is that I do not know how to sync my Gentoo repository to the state it was on 12-12-2021. I use webrsync sync method via "maint -A sync" and would prefer to use the same sync method for degrading my Gentoo system. Can anybody, please, tell me how to do it using this sync method?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tensorflow-2.5.0-r1 compilation failed
вс, 21 нояб. 2021 г. в 17:12, Mark Knecht : > > Congrats! Thank you. However, it was not for long. On 30-12-2021 recompilation of the same tensorflow-2.7.0 because of some changed dependencies failed with the same f**ng "Bazel failed" error as before. So, I am currently going to degrade my Gentoo system to the state it was in on 12-12-2021, when its last update was successful and froze it forever. The problem is that I do not know how to do it but I am going to post this question as a separate thread. (I am using webrsync method.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage detects fake "world file problems" and packages that don't exist
On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 22:44:08 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > This is weird. When doing: > > emerge -auDU @world > > Portage says: > > > !!! Problems have been detected with your world file > !!! Please run emaint --check world > > > !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all > !!! masked or don't exist: > media-sound/pavucontrol media-sound/pulseeffects sys-block/gparted > > Nothing to merge; quitting. > > > My world file is fine and "emaint --check world" doesn't find anything. > Also, all these packages that portage claims are masked or don't exist > are not masked and they exist. Have you edited your world file manually? I wonder if you could have introduced some non-ASCII characters or changed line endings - something that portage objects to but emaint doesn't. If that sounds like clutching at straws, it's because it is. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 19: Passive aggression pgpJ8aAanYTTw.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
