[gentoo-user] new laptop - back screen
Hi, I bought myself a lenovo Ideapad U160 which should be in specs like this on [1]. I want to have gentoo on it. The base system worked well, so I tried to see the penguins. I followed this guide [2] (uvesa). Now I see grub, then I see the penguins for a part of a second an then the screen is all black. The rest of the booting is fine. I can ssh in an reboot and everything. rc log shows no fault. I attach the config. Can anybody tell me what I did wrong? I would like to have both: penguins while booting an a screen I can work with. Thanks for your help kh [1] http://laptops-specs.blogspot.com/2010/06/lenovo-ideapad-u160-specifications.html [2] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Framebuffer -- _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X / \ ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # Linux kernel version: 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 # Mon Sep 21 21:52:40 2009 # # CONFIG_64BIT is not set CONFIG_X86_32=y # CONFIG_X86_64 is not set CONFIG_X86=y CONFIG_ARCH_DEFCONFIG="arch/x86/configs/i386_defconfig" CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CMOS_UPDATE=y CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_WATCHDOG=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS=y CONFIG_LOCKDEP_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_HAVE_LATENCYTOP_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_FAST_CMPXCHG_LOCAL=y CONFIG_MMU=y CONFIG_ZONE_DMA=y CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y CONFIG_GENERIC_BUG=y CONFIG_GENERIC_HWEIGHT=y CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y # CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPU_IDLE_WAIT=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y # CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL is not set CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX=y CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_DEFAULT_IDLE=y CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CACHE_LINE_SIZE=y CONFIG_HAVE_SETUP_PER_CPU_AREA=y CONFIG_HAVE_DYNAMIC_PER_CPU_AREA=y # CONFIG_HAVE_CPUMASK_OF_CPU_MAP is not set CONFIG_ARCH_HIBERNATION_POSSIBLE=y CONFIG_ARCH_SUSPEND_POSSIBLE=y # CONFIG_ZONE_DMA32 is not set CONFIG_ARCH_POPULATES_NODE_MAP=y # CONFIG_AUDIT_ARCH is not set CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_OPTIMIZED_INLINING=y CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC=y CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=y CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS_NO__DO_IRQ=y CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_PROBE=y CONFIG_X86_32_LAZY_GS=y CONFIG_KTIME_SCALAR=y CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST="/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config" # # General setup # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32 CONFIG_LOCALVERSION="" CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO=y CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_GZIP=y CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_BZIP2=y CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZMA=y # CONFIG_KERNEL_GZIP is not set CONFIG_KERNEL_BZIP2=y # CONFIG_KERNEL_LZMA is not set CONFIG_SWAP=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE_SYSCTL=y # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set # CONFIG_TASKSTATS is not set CONFIG_AUDIT=y CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=y CONFIG_AUDIT_TREE=y # # RCU Subsystem # CONFIG_CLASSIC_RCU=y # CONFIG_TREE_RCU is not set # CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU is not set # CONFIG_TREE_RCU_TRACE is not set # CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU_TRACE is not set # CONFIG_IKCONFIG is not set CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=14 CONFIG_HAVE_UNSTABLE_SCHED_CLOCK=y # CONFIG_GROUP_SCHED is not set # CONFIG_CGROUPS is not set # CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 is not set # CONFIG_RELAY is not set CONFIG_NAMESPACES=y # CONFIG_UTS_NS is not set # CONFIG_IPC_NS is not set # CONFIG_USER_NS is not set # CONFIG_PID_NS is not set # CONFIG_NET_NS is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE="" CONFIG_RD_GZIP=y CONFIG_RD_BZIP2=y CONFIG_RD_LZMA=y CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_ANON_INODES=y # CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set CONFIG_UID16=y CONFIG_SYSCTL_SYSCALL=y CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y # CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set # CONFIG_STRIP_ASM_SYMS is not set CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y CONFIG_PRINTK=y CONFIG_BUG=y CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y CONFIG_PCSPKR_PLATFORM=y CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y CONFIG_FUTEX=y CONFIG_EPOLL=y CONFIG_SIGNALFD=y CONFIG_TIMERFD=y CONFIG_EVENTFD=y CONFIG_SHMEM=y CONFIG_AIO=y CONFIG_VM_EVENT_COUNTERS=y CONFIG_PCI_QUIRKS=y # CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK is not set CONFIG_SLAB=y # CONFIG_SLUB is not set # CONFIG_SLOB is not set CONFIG_PROFILING=y CONFIG_TRACEPOINTS=y # CONFIG_MARKERS is not set CONFIG_OPROFILE=y CONFIG_HAVE_OPROFILE=y # CONFIG_KPROBES is not set CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS=y CONFIG_HAVE_IOREMAP_PROT=y CONFIG_HAVE_KPROBES=y CONFIG_HAVE_KRETPROBES=y CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK=y CONFIG_HAVE_DMA_API_DEBUG=y # CONFIG_SLOW_WORK is not set CONFIG_HAVE_GENERIC_DMA_COHERENT=y CONFIG_SLABINFO=y CONFIG_RT_MUTEXES=y CONFIG_BASE_SMALL=0 CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_LOAD=y CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y # CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD is not set # CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set # CONFIG_MODULE_SRCVERSION_ALL is not set CONFIG_BLOCK=y # CONFIG_LBD is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_BSG is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INTEGRITY is not set # # IO Schedulers # CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLI
Re: [gentoo-user] http-replicator permissions
Am 06.04.2011 01:09, schrieb Dale: > Gregory Fontenele wrote: >> how it came out of that list? >> >> >> -- >> Atenciosamente, >> Gregory Fontenele > > Are you on a loop or something? Same post to several threads now. > What's up? > > Dale > > :-) :-) well, it is differnt this time. I allready missed the emails with only "unsubscribe" in it ;-) -- _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X / \ ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [gentoo-user] http-replicator permissions
Am 05.04.2011 11:46, schrieb Jake Moe: > On 04/05/11 18:14, KH wrote: >> Am 04.04.2011 21:30, schrieb Peter Humphrey: >>> On Monday 04 April 2011 19:12:03 William Kenworthy wrote: >>> >>>> I dont think http-replicator can manage a directory structure - are you >>>> trying to do something fancier than just serving out tarballs? >>> Yes; I want it to mirror my portage tree and serve it to other boxes on the >>> LAN. >>> It used to do this well enough; I just want to get the permissions right. >> Hi, >> >> why not using the handbook-way? >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml#doc_chap2 >> I am doing it that way. >> >> Regards KH > +1 > > I've got four boxes in my home network, and I have one pull down the > updates, the other three sync with that one. > > I've also set up proftpd to allow anonymous read-only access to my > /usr/portage/distfiles folder, so the other three can try to pull their > packages from locally first as well, and if that box hasn't downloaded > it yet, only then will they try to retrieve it from the Internet. See > http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Setup_local_Portage_and_Package_Mirror > for info. > > Jake Moe Hi Jake Moe, for the distfiles http-replicator is great. Example: Box one has the tarball. Box 2, 3 and 4 can download it as well. Box one does not have the tarball. Box 2 may search for it, box one will download it and give it to box 2. Then box 3 and 4 can download it from box one as well. Regards KH -- _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X / \ ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [gentoo-user] http-replicator permissions
Am 04.04.2011 21:30, schrieb Peter Humphrey: > On Monday 04 April 2011 19:12:03 William Kenworthy wrote: > >> I dont think http-replicator can manage a directory structure - are you >> trying to do something fancier than just serving out tarballs? > > Yes; I want it to mirror my portage tree and serve it to other boxes on the > LAN. > It used to do this well enough; I just want to get the permissions right. Hi, why not using the handbook-way? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml#doc_chap2 I am doing it that way. Regards KH -- _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X / \ ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update --newuse world before emerge source?
Am 31.03.2011 10:34, schrieb Pandu Poluan: > Hello again. I hope you're not yet bored of my newbie questions... > > Out on a whim, I just did `emerge --update --newuse --pretend world` > *just* before emerging the sources. I got this: > > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.45 [2.1.9.25] USE="-python2%" > [ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.11.3 [2.11.2-r3] > [ebuild R ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.7-r3 USE="unicode* -gpm*" > [ebuild U ] sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5-r2 [1.2.3-r1] > [ebuild N] app-arch/xz-utils-5.0.1 USE="nls threads -static-libs" > [ebuild R ] sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 USE="unicode*" > [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 [4.4.4-r2] > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.18-r1 [2.17.2] USE="cramfs%* unicode*" > [ebuild R ] app-arch/gzip-1.4 USE="-pic*" > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20100815160931 > [1.60_p20090728014017-r1] > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/file-5.05 [5.04] > [ebuild R ] sys-process/procps-3.2.8 USE="unicode*" > [ebuild U ] net-misc/rsync-3.0.8 [3.0.7] > [ebuild R ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.14-r1 USE="unicode*" > > Should I `emerge --update --newuse world` before emerging the sources? > > Rgds, > -- > Pandu E Poluan > ~ IT Optimizer ~ > Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com Hi, most likely you did an emerge --sync befor. There should have been a notice like: A new version of portage is available. It is recomendet to update portage first. So you should run emerge -av portage first. After this you could update gcc but since it is a minore update it wouldn't mater. Regards KH -- _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X / \ ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.7 && python-updater
Am 28.03.2011 17:41, schrieb Roman Zilka: > KH (Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:22:55 +0200): >> > I do have python-2.7 and python-3.1 emerged. I just took al look in >> > /usr/lib64/ and I can find trace of python2.4 python2.5 python2.6 >> > python2.7 python3.1 . Are those folders (2.4; 2.5; 2.6) needed anymore? >> > If no, why are the still there? > Is there anything else inside those dirs besides *.pyc and *.pyo files? > If not, it's safe to remove them. Hi, there have been links to files which did not exist anymore. 2.6 is full with some stuff, but depclean wants to remove something. I'll keep you up to date. Regards KH -- _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X / \ ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.7 && python-updater
Am 25.03.2011 05:48, schrieb Paul Hartman: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Dale wrote: >> And if we should set python to 2.7, should we remove python-2.6? I don't >> think we want to break something, portage in particular. ;-) > > I have no trace of python-2.6 on my system at this point and I'm > getting along just fine with 2.7 as my active python. > Hi there, I do have python-2.7 and python-3.1 emerged. I just took al look in /usr/lib64/ and I can find trace of python2.4 python2.5 python2.6 python2.7 python3.1 . Are those folders (2.4; 2.5; 2.6) needed anymore? If no, why are the still there? Regards kh -- _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X / \ ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL
Am 03.02.2011 00:20, schrieb Brian Waters: > Anyway, I digress. Maybe I'll start a thread on that when the time comes. > > - BW Hi, you might want to take a look at the forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-highlight-.html Regards kh -- _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X / \ ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Colors of the USE flags in emerge --pretend
Am 10.11.2010 21:37, schrieb Benyamin Dvoskin: > Hi , > > When running emerge -p for some package , one gets for each dependency > and package a list of USE flags at the end of the line. > some are colored in red , some blue > > what are the differences ? > > Thanks, > Benny Hi, for me red is enabled and blue disabled. _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X / \ ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Help to unsubscribe
Am 25.10.2010 16:33, schrieb Gregory Fontenele: > how to unsubscribe? > > I try to send mail for gentoo-user-unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org > <http://lists.gentoo.org> but nothing happens > > > -- > Gregory Hi Gregory, this is expected behavior. It is like hotel california. You can never leave. You could try this: Read http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml find exampel for subscibing gentoo-user+subscr...@lists.gentoo.org Change the emailadress you need to write to acordingly gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org See "+" not "-" Regards kh
[gentoo-user] Preventing a package from being updated -> OT parallel-fetch
Am 25.10.2010 04:36, schrieb Dale: > FEATURES=" buildpkg sandbox fixpackages parallel-fetch --keep-going" Hi, parallel-fetch is default and no need to list it in make.conf any more. I notices when I had to add -parallel-fetch to one of my boxes. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing a package from being updated
Am 18.10.2010 12:06, schrieb Timur Aydin: > Hi, > > I am using the ~x86 (testing) version of gentoo linux. After recent > updates, my X windows became extremely sluggish and I found out that the > problem is related to a new version of mesa (7.8.2 specifically). So I > downgraded to version 7.7.1 and my desktop works great again. > > Now I want to prevent mesa from being updated until this issue is sorted > out upstream. I have looked at package.provide, but that didn't work. > Currently, I have placed media-libs/mesa into my > /etc/portage/package.mask file and this seems to do the trick. Is this > the recommended way for handling this situation? > > Being a long time gentoo user, I want to do things the right way, so > just working fine isn't enough :) > Hi, from man poratage: "package.mask A list of package atoms to mask. Useful if specific versions of packages do not work well for you. For example, you swear by the Nvidia drivers, but only versions earlier than 1.0.4496. No problem!" Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 28.07.2010 17:27, schrieb Bill Longman: > On 07/28/2010 07:56 AM, KH wrote: >> Am 28.07.2010 15:45, schrieb Bill Longman: >>> >>> Konstantin, please post what your kernel has for IDE support. If you >>> have /proc/config.gz, then please post the results from "zgrep IDE >>> /proc/config.gz" so we can get an idea of why you have no /dev/hd* >>> devices. We will also need to know what kind of disk controller your >>> server really has. Are they IDE or SATA controllers? >>> >> >> Hi Bill, >> >> Now I am running 2.6.30-r8 but 2.6.34-r1 is ready but not jet copied to >> /boot. btw it is a p3 coppermine. >> >> This is the output from zgrep IDE /proc/config.gz . >> >> >> CONFIG_HAVE_IDE=y >> CONFIG_IDE=y >> # Please see Documentation/ide/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives >> CONFIG_IDE_XFER_MODE=y >> CONFIG_IDE_TIMINGS=y >> CONFIG_IDE_ATAPI=y >> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set >> CONFIG_IDE_GD=y >> CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA=y >> CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATAPI=y >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD_VERBOSE_ERRORS=y >> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEACPI=y >> # CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set >> CONFIG_IDE_PROC_FS=y >> # IDE chipset support/bugfixes >> CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y >> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPNP is not set >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_SFF=y >> # PCI IDE chipsets support >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y >> CONFIG_IDEPCI_PCIBUS_ORDER=y >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y >> # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set >> # CONFIG_VIDEO_MEDIA is not set >> # CONFIG_VIDEO_OUTPUT_CONTROL is not set >> # CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT is not set >> # CONFIG_PROVIDE_OHCI1394_DMA_INIT is not set > > I would expect to see: > > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=y > > in your configuration given that it's a Coppermine. You might want to > add that in the 2.6.30 and the 2.6.34 kernels, although DEV_GENERIC > should give you what you need, as you are probably using that right now. > > Use "make menuconfig" to configure the kernel. Make sure it's "<*>" not > "" for the PIIX controller and then rebuild and install the kernel. > > Do you have "lspci" installed? The results from "lspci -v" would be very > helpful right now. > >> I just tried /etc/init.de/udev resart . I am getting errors not to use >> the script with baselayout-1 . The box is very slow now. Will reboot and >> see what baselayout is on it. > > Yeah, don't worry about this right now. > lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Memory at f800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] Capabilities: [88] Vendor Specific Information Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0 Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 64 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: ee00-efef Prefetchable memory behind bridge: eff0-f7ff 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32 I/O behind bridge: d000-dfff Memory behind bridge: ed80-edff 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 80 [Master]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 [virtual] Memory at 01f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] [virtual] Memory at 03f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] [virtual] Memory at 0170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] [virtual] Memory at 0370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] I/O ports at b800 [size=16] Kernel driver in use: PIIX_IDE 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. TUSL2-C Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 12 I/O ports at b400 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 02) Su
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 28.07.2010 17:30, schrieb Bill Longman: > On 07/28/2010 08:18 AM, KH wrote: >> >> Hi Mick, >> >> but typing ls /dev/hd* or ls /dev/sd* should show up something. >> Shouldn't it? df -h shows /dev/hda3 is mounted on / >> For me this is strange. > > How is /dev mounted right now? What does "udevadm --version" tell you? > udev is 151 and baselayout is 1.12.13 Regards FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 15G 8.2G 5.8G 59% / udev 10M 36K 10M 1% /dev tmpfs 2.5G 0 2.5G 0% /var/tmp/portage shm 187M 0 187M 0% /dev/shm
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 28.07.2010 15:53, schrieb Bill Longman: > On 07/28/2010 06:42 AM, Mick wrote: >> On 28 July 2010 09:50, KH wrote: >> >>> I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not >>> change anything. >>> Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc >>> boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running >>> mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no >>> /dev/sd* >>> >>> Any ideas? >> >> KH, if you have changed the kernel to use libATA (i.e. the newer >> SATA/PATA options) then you need to update your fstab from /dev/hdaX >> to /dev/sdaX and change your grub.conf accordingly. > > But he doesn't even have those devices, so this will not do him any good > until we know how the kernel is configured (or not) and get the devices > back. > > Konstantin, I'm assuming, from your original post, that you have not > changed your kernel in any way over the last few months. You said that > it was running fine for eight months but now after rebooting, you're in > trouble. Are you *sure* you haven't made any changes to the kernel? I'm > also assuming that you know that the kernel drivers for your disk > controllers should not be built as modules but built into the kernel so > that you don't need to go through creating an initramfs and hoping for > your devices to get populated. > Hi, I tried booting 2.6.28 / 2.6.29 / 2.6.30 . The 30 series has not been running on the box befor. Anyway the result is the same no matter which kernel I am booting. I use make oldconfig for uping the kernel. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 28.07.2010 16:04, schrieb Mick: > On 28 July 2010 14:53, Bill Longman wrote: >> On 07/28/2010 06:42 AM, Mick wrote: >>> On 28 July 2010 09:50, KH wrote: >>> >>>> I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not >>>> change anything. >>>> Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc >>>> boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running >>>> mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no >>>> /dev/sd* >>>> >>>> Any ideas? >>> >>> KH, if you have changed the kernel to use libATA (i.e. the newer >>> SATA/PATA options) then you need to update your fstab from /dev/hdaX >>> to /dev/sdaX and change your grub.conf accordingly. >> >> But he doesn't even have those devices, so this will not do him any good >> until we know how the kernel is configured (or not) and get the devices >> back. > > I am not sure that he does not have those devices ... I don't know if > the error message is returned from grub or from the OS. > > It could be that the kernel stanza is wrongly pointing to /dev/hda, > and, or fstab is not correct. Hi Mick, but typing ls /dev/hd* or ls /dev/sd* should show up something. Shouldn't it? df -h shows /dev/hda3 is mounted on / For me this is strange. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 28.07.2010 15:45, schrieb Bill Longman: > On 07/28/2010 01:50 AM, KH wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not >> change anything. >> Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc >> boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running >> mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no >> /dev/sd* >> >> Any ideas? > > Konstantin, please post what your kernel has for IDE support. If you > have /proc/config.gz, then please post the results from "zgrep IDE > /proc/config.gz" so we can get an idea of why you have no /dev/hd* > devices. We will also need to know what kind of disk controller your > server really has. Are they IDE or SATA controllers? > Hi Bill, Now I am running 2.6.30-r8 but 2.6.34-r1 is ready but not jet copied to /boot. btw it is a p3 coppermine. This is the output from zgrep IDE /proc/config.gz . CONFIG_HAVE_IDE=y CONFIG_IDE=y # Please see Documentation/ide/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives CONFIG_IDE_XFER_MODE=y CONFIG_IDE_TIMINGS=y CONFIG_IDE_ATAPI=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set CONFIG_IDE_GD=y CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA=y CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATAPI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD_VERBOSE_ERRORS=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEACPI=y # CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set CONFIG_IDE_PROC_FS=y # IDE chipset support/bugfixes CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPNP is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_SFF=y # PCI IDE chipsets support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y CONFIG_IDEPCI_PCIBUS_ORDER=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_MEDIA is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_OUTPUT_CONTROL is not set # CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT is not set # CONFIG_PROVIDE_OHCI1394_DMA_INIT is not set I just tried /etc/init.de/udev resart . I am getting errors not to use the script with baselayout-1 . The box is very slow now. Will reboot and see what baselayout is on it. Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 25.07.2010 15:57, schrieb Mick: > On Sunday 25 July 2010 09:18:33 Dale wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On Sunday 25 July 2010 06:57:43 KH wrote: >>>>> You said you ran e2fsck and it was OK. What was the command? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Normally with an e2fsck on a journalled fs, the app will replay the >>>>> journal and make a few minor checks. This takes about 4 seconds, not >>>>> the 40 minutes it takes to do a ful ext2 check. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think you might need to fsck without the journal. I know there's a >>>>> way to do this but a cursory glance at the man page didn't reveal it. >>>>> Maybe an ext user will chip in with the correct method >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I ran on the two partitions e2fsck /dev/sde3 as well as fsck.ext3 >>>> /dev/sde3 . Yes, it only took some seconds. >>> >>> It's been a long time since I used ext3 so some of this might be wrong. >>> >>> An fsck that takes a few seconds is using the journal, which might not >>> uncover deeper corruption. You should try disabling the journal (I >>> couldn't find the way to do that though), but this will also work: >>> >>> Boot of a LiveCD, mount your root partition somewhere using type "ext2" >>> and fsck it. This will invalidate the journal but that's OK, it gets >>> recreated on the next proper boot. Let the fsck finish - it will take a >>> while on a large fs. >>> >>> When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. >> >> And I would stand guard to make sure housekeeping doesn't come around. >> ;-) Cutting power during all this wold not be good. > > KH, I think that this may not be related to a fs error as such. > > Yes, pulling the plug may have caused fs corruption. However, more likely is > that pulling the plug did not allow you to do something that you should have > done after you finished upgrading to grub-0.97-r9. The latest installation > of > grub asks you to reinstall in the MBR and point its root to wherever your > /boot is. GRUB's fs and its drivers may have changed and therefore the old > boot loader code is looking for files that no longer exist. > > So you'll probably be alright again if you boot with a fresh systemrescue > LiveCD and run grub and then root (hd) and setup (hd0) before you quit > and > reboot. > > If that doesn't work then you most likely have a fs problem. > > HTH. Hi, I installed grub by connecting the hdd to my workstation. This did not change anything. Also I changed /etc/fstab . Now I have 0 0 for every partition. The pc boots fine now. I can use it but ... There is no /dev/hd* . Running mount /boot I get the answer /dev/hda1 does not exist. Also there is no /dev/sd* Any ideas? Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 24.07.2010 23:46, schrieb James Wall: > On 7/24/2010 3:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> I think you might need to fsck without the journal. I know there's a >> way to do >> this but a cursory glance at the man page didn't reveal it. Maybe an >> ext user >> will chip in with the correct method > > Run e2fsck -f /dev/hda3 to force check a partition. I have had to do > that when my kids yanked all the drives out of a server that I was > setting up. :-) Hi again, # e2fsck -fv /dev/sde3 e2fsck 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010) Durchgang 1: Prüfe Inodes, Blocks, und Größen Durchgang 2: Prüfe Verzeichnis Struktur Durchgang 3: Prüfe Verzeichnis Verknüpfungen Durchgang 4: Überprüfe die Referenzzähler Durchgang 5: Überprüfe Gruppe Zusammenfassung 356415 inodes used (36.63%) 10396 non-contiguous files (2.9%) 236 non-contiguous directories (0.1%) # von Inodes mit ind/dind/tind Blöcken: 7917/121/0 2191858 blocks used (56.32%) 0 bad blocks 1 large file 315130 regular files 31986 directories 1051 character device files 4089 block device files 1 fifo 2397 links 4147 symbolic links (4027 fast symbolic links) 2 sockets 358803 files Well this does not look bad, does it? Regards kh > No trees were harmed in the sending of this message. However, a large > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. cool sig!
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Am 24.07.2010 22:21, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On Saturday 24 July 2010 21:57:38 KH wrote: >> Hi there, [...] >> Anyway the box won't boot anymore. grub starts up. Kernel boots. Then >> there is checking root file system (or something like that).The message >> is that my ext2 file system can not be read. That I might want to try >> the alternativ superblock by running #e2fsck -b 8193 >> >> Well, I put the hdd in an external usb and conected it to my >> workstation. As I thought hda3 (is /dev/sde3) is an ext3 filesystem. >> Also badblocks and e2fsck did not show any problem with the hdd. >> >> /etc/fstab is corect (i hope), too. >> >> What am I missing? How can I get the server running, again? > > You said you ran e2fsck and it was OK. What was the command? > > Normally with an e2fsck on a journalled fs, the app will replay the journal > and make a few minor checks. This takes about 4 seconds, not the 40 minutes > it > takes to do a ful ext2 check. > > I think you might need to fsck without the journal. I know there's a way to > do > this but a cursory glance at the man page didn't reveal it. Maybe an ext user > will chip in with the correct method > > > Hi, I ran on the two partitions e2fsck /dev/sde3 as well as fsck.ext3 /dev/sde3 . Yes, it only took some seconds. Regards kh
[gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Hi there, my server was running strait for 8 month now. I did updates regularly but still used an 2.6.2x kernel. Never switched it of. Now someone from houskeeping pulled the plug for the vacuum cleaner ... Anyway the box won't boot anymore. grub starts up. Kernel boots. Then there is checking root file system (or something like that).The message is that my ext2 file system can not be read. That I might want to try the alternativ superblock by running #e2fsck -b 8193 Well, I put the hdd in an external usb and conected it to my workstation. As I thought hda3 (is /dev/sde3) is an ext3 filesystem. Also badblocks and e2fsck did not show any problem with the hdd. /etc/fstab is corect (i hope), too. What am I missing? How can I get the server running, again? Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Movies from phone and camera, using vlc and mplayer
Am 24.07.2010 08:54, schrieb fe...@crowfix.com: > I copy movies from my phone and camera to my computer and have > troubles playing them. [...] > The mplayer slow video is the most frustrating part. I like mplayer > better than vlc, usually, but the slowness is really frustrating and > it doesn't recognize half the keys it used to, such as [] to speed it > up and slow it down. I was hoping to see if that would get the video > speed back closer to the sound. Hi Felix, what kind of pc do you have? On my old laptop I have problems like that. But this laptop has only 128MB Ram. > I sent some phone .3gp movies to a friend with Windows. Won't play. > Is there a decent way to convert them to something he can play? Try ffmpeg or mencoder. Visit mplayers homepage for converting tutorial. You might need to try a little. Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] One hard drive much slower for some reason.
Am 03.06.2010 06:46, schrieb Dale: > > As for the lifetimes in the report, good question. I think that drives > is doing some weird stuff. It can travel back and forth in time but is > slow for no apparent good reason. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Hi Dale, you just made me smile. Thank's. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: samba vs. cifs
Am 17.05.2010 08:56, schrieb KH: On Wed, 05 May 2010 23:20:01 +0200, Matt Harrison wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] samba vs. cifs: >On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 06:42:09PM +0200, KH wrote: [snip] >> specific (don't want to hear "moo"): Will I be able to mount a samba >> partition without setting the samba use flag and after unmerging >> samba? >> >> Regards >> kh > >I just enable cifs in the kernel and install the mount-cifs script. >That lets me mount remote shares with no trouble at all. I don't even install the mount-cifs script. I simply put the share definition in /etc/fstab on the client, and then use the vanilla mount command. E.g., //192.168.0.2/backups /usr/local/remote_backups cifs noauto,noexec,noatime,nodiratime,user=root,pass=eetoot 0 0 [The above should be on 1 line.] Note that my real password for root is not "eetoot"; that is simply a fake password I set up for Samba shares. Whenever I need to transfer a backup archive to the server, I simply issue: mount /usr/local/remote_backups and then copy the data across. Well that didn't look the way I wanted it to look like. Shouldn't be a sig. So again: Hi, just want to answer to that old mail. I have it done as follows: //way/2/otherpc /mnt/mountpoint cifs noatime,credentials=/root/.credentials,uid=1000,umask=000,user 0 0 and the file /.credentials can only be read by root. In there is my password and username: username=myusername password=mypswd Regards kh
[gentoo-user] Re: samba vs. cifs
On Wed, 05 May 2010 23:20:01 +0200, Matt Harrison wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] samba vs. cifs: >On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 06:42:09PM +0200, KH wrote: [snip] >> specific (don't want to hear "moo"): Will I be able to mount a samba >> partition without setting the samba use flag and after unmerging >> samba? >> >> Regards >> kh > >I just enable cifs in the kernel and install the mount-cifs script. >That lets me mount remote shares with no trouble at all. I don't even install the mount-cifs script. I simply put the share definition in /etc/fstab on the client, and then use the vanilla mount command. E.g., //192.168.0.2/backups/usr/local/remote_backupscifs noauto,noexec,noatime,nodiratime,user=root,pass=eetoot 0 0 [The above should be on 1 line.] Note that my real password for root is not "eetoot"; that is simply a fake password I set up for Samba shares. Whenever I need to transfer a backup archive to the server, I simply issue: mount /usr/local/remote_backups and then copy the data across. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] == dwn...@... (David W Noon) == Hi, just want to answer to that old mail. I have it done as follows: //way/2/otherpc /mnt/mountpoint cifs noatime,credentials=/root/.credentials,uid=1000,umask=000,user 0 0 and the file /.credentials can only be read by root. In there is my password and username: username=myusername password=mypswd Regards kh
[gentoo-user] samba vs. cifs
Hi List, I just ran in a problem: net-fs/mount-cifs ("net-fs/mount-cifs" is blocking net-fs/samba-3.4.6) Somba is pulled in by the samba use-flag. The PC only is "client" to a server running samba. Do I need samba for this anymore? More specific (don't want to hear "moo"): Will I be able to mount a samba partition without setting the samba use flag and after unmerging samba? Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - why doesn't it update my kde packages
Am 04.05.2010 21:41, schrieb Dale: <---cut---> update_orphans.sh<--cut-> #!/bin/sh eix -u | gawk '/^\[U\] / { print $2; }' | xargs -r emerge -v1uD exit $? <---cut---><cut--><--cut-> I run it immediately after the main emerge, when I have rsync'ed the Portage tree. No. --with-bdeps is not default anymore because it is considered to be a bug if portage updates packages not used in any way. This is only if a package is needed for buildtime. Program A is version 1.5. To build it, it needs program B which at this time is version 4.7 B is not needed for anything else! Now there is an update to B-4.9 . Portage will not update B as long as there is no update to A. B is not in the world file. It is not a runtime dependency nore is it a orphan. kh I have with-bdeps set in my make.conf so that it is enabled each time. I just ran the command given above and it found over 40 packages that need to be upgraded. I'm not even going to claim that I understand all the chicken scratch in that command but apparently stuff needed to be upgraded on my system that was being missed. It appears to do something good even if it is not related to the OPs problem. Dale Hi, For me it does try to update the same packages as --with-bdeps, but it tries to pull in like 39 new packages. How and where have you integrated with-bdeps in make.conf? kh
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - why doesn't it update my kde packages
Am 04.05.2010 18:19, schrieb Paul Hartman: On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, the following situation puzzles me a lot. My 'standard' way of updating is emerge --keep-going -j4 -1 --ask --update --newuse --deep --tree @system @world but it didn't update anything. Still, eix confirmed there were quite a lot of kde packages which have newer versions, and indeed, emerge -auv1 -j4 --keep-going $(qlist -IC kde-base/) upgraded 24 packages. Where does this discrepancy come from? Are they in your world, or depended upon by something in your world? In other words, if you "emerge --ask --depclean" does it want to remove those packages? Hi, do you see the diff in here: emerge -av --depclean >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources selected: 2.6.31-r10 protected: none omitted: 2.6.30-r5 2.6.32-r7 >>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal. >>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed. Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No] n Quitting. Packages installed: 847 Packages in world:139 Packages in system: 50 Required packages:846 Number to remove: 1 and emerge -av --depclean --with-bdeps n >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: dev-util/cmake selected: 2.6.4-r3 protected: none omitted: none app-arch/rpm2targz selected: 9.0.0.3g protected: none omitted: none x11-proto/xf86bigfontproto selected: 1.2.0 protected: none omitted: none dev-java/javacc selected: 4.0-r4 protected: none omitted: none [...] perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib selected: 2.021 protected: none omitted: none >>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal. >>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed. Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No] n Quitting. Packages installed: 847 Packages in world:139 Packages in system: 50 Required packages:774 Number to remove: 73 And the other way round emerge -Duav world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB Nothing to merge; would you like to auto-clean packages? [Yes/No] n Quitting. emerge -Duav --with-bdeps y world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] dev-perl/yaml-0.71 [0.68] 111 kB [ebuild U ] app-arch/cabextract-1.2-r1 [1.2] USE="-extra-tools%" 190 kB [ebuild U ] dev-perl/Archive-Zip-1.30 [1.20] 193 kB [ebuild U ] perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.22.03 [2.20.0401] 40 kB [ebuild U ] virtual/perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.22.03 [2.20.0401] 0 kB Total: 5 packages (5 upgrades), Size of downloads: 533 kB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n Quitting. This is normal and expected behavior kh
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - why doesn't it update my kde packages
Am 04.05.2010 16:59, schrieb David W Noon: On Tue, 04 May 2010 11:00:01 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote about [gentoo-user] emerge --update - why doesn't it update my kde packages: [snip] Still, eix confirmed there were quite a lot of kde packages which have newer versions, and indeed, emerge -auv1 -j4 --keep-going $(qlist -IC kde-base/) upgraded 24 packages. Where does this discrepancy come from? I think Portage does not consider packages that are not in your world file, if the update is on world (or system). To overcome this, I wrote a little script, called update_orphans.sh. Here it is: <---cut---> update_orphans.sh<--cut-> #!/bin/sh eix -u | gawk '/^\[U\] / { print $2; }' | xargs -r emerge -v1uD exit $? <---cut---><cut--><--cut-> I run it immediately after the main emerge, when I have rsync'ed the Portage tree. No. --with-bdeps is not default anymore because it is considered to be a bug if portage updates packages not used in any way. This is only if a package is needed for buildtime. Program A is version 1.5. To build it, it needs program B which at this time is version 4.7 B is not needed for anything else! Now there is an update to B-4.9 . Portage will not update B as long as there is no update to A. B is not in the world file. It is not a runtime dependency nore is it a orphan. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - why doesn't it update my kde packages
Am 04.05.2010 12:17, schrieb Bert Swart: On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 12:09:25PM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 4 May, Bert Swart wrote: On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 10:57:10AM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, the following situation puzzles me a lot. My 'standard' way of updating is emerge --keep-going -j4 -1 --ask --update --newuse --deep --tree @system @world but it didn't update anything. Still, eix confirmed there were quite a lot of kde packages which have newer versions, and indeed, emerge -auv1 -j4 --keep-going $(qlist -IC kde-base/) upgraded 24 packages. Where does this discrepancy come from? Do you have --with-bdep set in /etc/make.conf? No. Are you saying that emerge --keep-going -j4 -1 --ask --update --newuse --deep --tree --with-bdeps y @system @world would have updated my kde packages, as well? Probably. Sometimes, not all packages are included as dependency if they are not strictly required. If you do want them to be upgraded, add --with-bdeps to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS in /etc/make.conf. Or, like you did, upgrade them manually... See also http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/faq.xml Those are packages only required during buildtime. You could unmerge them after upgrading without loosing a funktion. Adding --with-bdeps to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS might only wast some time and energy. You can also run depclean --with-bdeps (yes/no or something like that) to savely remove them. My point is: If glsa doesn't list one of those packages I don't touch them. Regards kh Thanks, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] Frozen after Upgrade
Am 03.05.2010 16:56, schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Monday 03 May 2010 16:30:53 Colleen Beamer wrote: [...] I don't understand what you mean by booting to a single user maintenance mode. How do I do that? At the grub menu, select the kernel you wish to boot. Press "e" Move cursor to the "kernel" line Press "e" Move cursor to the end of the line. Append " 1" or " single" Press Press "b" This will load the kernel and run a modified start-up sequence (not the regular init command). You get a root shell which is quite limited but usually adequate for repairing broken system. In a way, it's very similar to booting into a LiveCD without having to go and find the CD first Hi, and again I learnd something I didn't know, jet. Anyway I also would try to follow Dales advise with pressing "i" during boot. Also some time ago I had a problem after an upgrade with my keyboard. Changing to usb was the workaround for me (the keyboard has usb and the ps2?). Anyway I never fixed the problem. Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my data gone?
Am 30.04.2010 10:44, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:43:41 -0400, dhk wrote: While setting up a new disk I accidentally ran "mke2fs /dev/sda1" instead of "mke2fs /dev/hda1". When I realized the mistake (about 2 seconds later) I hit Ctrl-C before mke2fs was done. Now I can't mount the drive. Is there a way to read the drive to get the data off or is it unrecoverable? The data is still there, mke2fs just reset the superblock. Photorec will recover file contents from a filesystem like this. It only recovers the contents, not the metadata, so you'll end up with files with meaningless names, but as they are video files I suspect there are not too many of them and they are fairly easy to identify. At least it's less work than importing and editing them all again. It will also find files you already deleted. I had this with an SD Card once and it is a lot of work to go throu all the files and see what it is. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/ck-sources - why should I use them?
Am 21.04.2010 13:14, schrieb Neil Bothwick: Maybe some sort of super-sources package, with the various patches controlled by USE flags would be a good idea. Then we could have a kernel with just the patches we want, like: USE="gentoo reiser4 -bfs" emerge super-sources Are we too late for google summer of code 2010? kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Bug
Am 19.04.2010 00:41, schrieb dan blum: Dale, Thanks for following up. HOw do you start a new thread? It is slightly annoying when you change a setting and reverts back to the original; the whole (computer) system should be more user friendly. Either way, it is good that there is an "easy" fix, which I will do. I will have much more complex issues to discuss shortly. Thanks. [...] Hi, well there might be more than one way but usually I move my mouse to the "new email" option in thunderbird. Then I write gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org in the field "to". So I am set. The difference is: when you use answer and just change the subject field, it still is shown as answer to the other email. If you ever tried to find something with google from a mailing list you pretty fast start to hat those guys. Also keep in mind, that the subject field should be a little more catchy. Things like "help", "bug", "to all veterans" ... will likely lead to very few readers. Also most people on this list (I hope this won't start a discussion again) don't like top posting. Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Hot can I remove a non-existent package
Am 18.04.2010 10:18, schrieb Crístian Viana: you can either delete it from /var/lib/portage/world or run "emerge --depclean"; that package should be removed. I would add ask and verbose to this. emerge -av --depclean This gives you a little more chance to see what will be happening. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] How many ways are there for a user to increase their permissions?
Am 17.04.2010 23:32, schrieb Jonathan: On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:45:57 +0100 David W Noon wrote: In fact, POSIX capabilities are a mechanism to *reduce* a program's permissions, not increase them. It's true that Linux "capabilities" are used to replace SUID and that does reduce the programs permissions. On the other hand programs like Wine. Which no one would never run with SUID could be run with CAP_NET_RAW. That would be a increase in permissions. Wine needs to be able to ping because some program need to use IPX[1], Like Red Alert 2. Someone has made a patch for Red Alert 2 to use TCP/IP and I can not think of another program off the top of my head. That information came from "man 7 capabilities". So I guess it's all about how you look at it. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internetwork_Packet_Exchange Sounds a little like putting someone in prison and than telling him walking through the prison yard is increasing his freedom. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] System clean-up - removing unneeded packages *and* dependencies not used by other packages
Am 17.04.2010 21:30, schrieb Jarry: On 17. 4. 2010 21:20, Tanstaafl wrote: Whats the best way to uninstall a package - in this case, openldap, but really for any package - and get all of the dependencies it pulls in, but only ones that are not required for other unrelated (to openldap) packages? I'm using this sequence: emerge -C emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild Jarry Or: emerge --depclean Depclean serves as a dependency aware version of --unmerge. When given one or more atoms, it will unmerge matched packages that have no reverse dependencies. Use --depclean together with --verbose to show reverse dependencies. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: [...] 2. when devs commit to ~arch, they tend to run ~arch on their test boxes. Issues are easy to spot and get fixed quickly. If you have a mixture of the two, then you have a combination that no-one but you is using, and it will not have been tested. The odds are good that you will often run into problems that are hard to trace (conflicting versions of packages). Running ~arch is actually more stable than a mixture as many folk have those packages and there are more eyeballs on it. Hi, someone always brings that up. I think it might be right when mixing packages randomly. But not everybody is doing that. Let's say: I only like to have personas for firefox. Unmasking firefox, xulrunner, nss and two more will not bring you in the problem mentioned. In general I believe this is true for any program as long as it doesn't need a general library or anything like that unmasked. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup
Am 12.04.2010 11:56, schrieb Hinko Kocevar: [...] Thank you! Hmm, I was looking at the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml. For OpenRC I added sys-apps/openrc ~x86 to package.keywords, to get baselayout-2 ebuild I've added ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" to /etc/make.conf. Will it be enough to (re-)build the baselayout and openrc and its closest dependencies (41 packages)? Or do I need to perform complete system upgrade (~900 packages) now that ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is present? Best regards, Hinko Hi, if you are using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" in /etc/make.conf you should do all 900 packages. Otherwise you might get a mix of both worlds what could be bad. Be sure that you really want your system changed to testing. Otherwise you should add those 41 packages to /etc/portage/package.keywords kh
Re: [gentoo-user] help renaming files
Am 07.04.2010 18:21, schrieb luis jure: hello list. i have a bunch of files with accented characters in their names, both upper- and lower case. i want to rename them using the non-accented equivalent. i thought that would be easy to do using something like tr. big mistake. confronted with accented characters, tr outputs garbage. searching the web, i found this: "Although the tr command respects C locale environment variables, don't expect it to do anything sensible with UTF-8 documents, such as being able to replace lower-case accented characters with appropriate upper-case characters. The tr command works best with ASCII and the other standard C locales." i'm using es_UY.UTF8 and i can't make tr do anything useful. any ideas? best, lj Hi, I am really not in this but maybe something like this can help you: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Create_an_Audio_CD#Clean_up_the_file_names Regards kh
[gentoo-user] Re: help
Am 24.03.2010 23:18, schrieb Dale: Alex Schuster wrote: Is there a bug report files already? I haven't filed one. I'm just hoping someone has. Filling bug reports is important. I filled over 50 on b.g.o this year alone. All of them are version bumps or bad homepages. Some programs haven't been bumped for 5 years. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
Am 26.03.2010 00:24, schrieb Dale: I would have to modify the script since it does random too. If KDE4 isn't broke now, I would surely finish it off if I started writing scripts. LOL I would think it could be disabled somehow but the folks on KDE mailing list couldn't find a way either. I even searched around in the config files and maybe changing a USE flag. Still nothing yet. I really think it will be there eventually tho. Here's to hoping. Dale :-) :-) USE="-random" emerge kde4 - Having something like that would be fun :-) kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with thunderbird
Am 23.03.2010 16:40, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 03/23/2010 01:43 PM, KH wrote: [...] Then I tried to set firefox as default for opening http://www.stuff.whatever . This does not work. Where in about:config can I change that, again? You don't need to mess with about:config. The setting is in the "Attachments" section of the configuration dialog. Simply select "Use firefox" as handler for the ftp, http and https types. That did the trick. Thanks for that. kh
[gentoo-user] Problems with thunderbird
Hi, I just updated thunderbird. Now I have two problems: The rss feed only shows the title. It used to show the whole everything. How can I change that? I want to read the complete rss article. Then I tried to set firefox as default for opening http://www.stuff.whatever . This does not work. Where in about:config can I change that, again? Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
Am 23.03.2010 01:51, schrieb walt: On 03/22/2010 04:21 PM, KH wrote: > ... There even is a tool you can download from Microsoft to change your key - > like you once hat a pirated version with a cracked key and now you want to > turn legal again. Download the tool, enter the code you bought, you are > done without installing everything again... Those boys at M$ are such jokers. The big pitch is "DANGER, your pirated copy of Windows may not be safe! Who knows what evil lurks in pirated software!?!" But, once you fork over the money for a valid key, all that "DANGER/evil" is exorcised forever. I wish I could write smart software like that. Well I guess it is for those people who can't get bug fixes anymore because the update site knows they have pirate software ...
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
Oh and all of this started with a email just saying "help". Wander what another word could have done. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
Am 22.03.2010 23:51, schrieb Mick: In Germany you are still free to sell the software to a third person who is insane enough to buy Windows ;-) But how can you sell it - I think that it is an OEM license which will only run in the machine that Dell bought it for, from Microsoft. I'll try running the image of the partition which I made when I bought it on another machine and see what gives if I get the time, but in the past I remember trying something similar and I could not get it to work. I am not in that to deep. IIRC oem has no meaning in Germany. This is part of the license agreement what you have to accept after buying the software. Law says you have to accept it before or it is not part of the contract. I never tried lately but you should be able to install from every Win CD you find and just use the code from that green sticker. There even is a tool you can download from Microsoft to change your key - like you once hat a pirated version with a cracked key and now you want to turn legal again. Download the tool, enter the code you bought, you are done without installing everything again. But again I don't know if it works in every constellation nor if it is legal everywhere. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
Am 22.03.2010 23:01, schrieb Stroller: On 22 Mar 2010, at 19:21, KH wrote: Am 22.03.2010 20:17, schrieb Mick: TBH, I wouldn't pay money for it but as many OEM impose a MSWindows tax on all of us I had no other option if I wanted to buy this particular laptop. You can refuse the license agreement and give windows back. If you are lucky, the vendor will give you some money back. Article in The Register about this this week. Dell may be refusing this now. I read in a forum that the wording of the license terms has changed in Vista or 7, to (basically) "return the whole system for a refund if you don't like these terms". Stroller. In Germany you are still free to sell the software to a third person who is insane enough to buy Windows ;-) kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
Am 22.03.2010 20:17, schrieb Mick: TBH, I wouldn't pay money for it but as many OEM impose a MSWindows tax on all of us I had no other option if I wanted to buy this particular laptop. You can refuse the license agreement and give windows back. If you are lucky, the vendor will give you some money back. kh
[gentoo-user] broken files left and revdep-rebuild
Hi, I just ran revdep-rebuild -i -- --ask. At the end there was: * Found some broken files that weren't associated with known packages * The broken files are: * /usr/bin/imgcmp * /usr/bin/imginfo * /usr/bin/jasper * /usr/lib/libjasper-1.701.so.1.0.0 Does somebody know where those files came from? I tend to remove them. Will this break the system? Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help
Am 20.03.2010 22:28, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: [...] And people still claim it's Microsoft products that are bugged... :P They call it improvement and not bugfixing.
Re: [gentoo-user] RAID/LVM machine - install questions
Am 20.03.2010 19:29, schrieb Mark Knecht: [...] I'm thinking I'll keep it as simple as possibly and just spread out the Gentoo install over the multiple hard drives without using RAID, but maybe not. It would be nice to have everything on RAID but I don't know if I should byte that off for my first taste of building RAID. [...] Very helpful. Thanks! Cheers, Mark Hi, I have boot on raid1 and everything else on raid5. Also swap is raid5. It wasn't hard to do that. If I did it again, I would also create a small (5GB) raid5 for testing stuff. Like when I try to reassemble or change something. Copy some movies and music to that drive. Whenever you need to change something with your real raid, do it with the test one first and see if you can still listen to your music. Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] RAID/LVM machine - install questions
Am 20.03.2010 19:26, schrieb Mark Knecht: [...] So the chassis and drives for this 1st machine are on order. 6 1TB green drives. [] - Mark Hi Mark, What do you mean by "green drives"? I had been told - but never searched for confirmation - that those energy saving drives change spinning and also do spin down. The problem would be that the drives than might drop out of the raid since they are not reachable fast. Don't know if that is true. I bought me some black label drives for the longer warranty. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] RAID/LVM machine - install questions
Mark Knecht schrieb: Hi, [...] 3) Wife's new desktop [...] I want high reliability [...] The most important task of this machine is to keep data safe. [...] Thanks, Mark Hi Mark, For me it sounds like those points just don't fit together ;-) Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge older version
Laurent Kappler schrieb: Hi, I'm tryin to emerge ImageMagick version 6.4.7.0 while current in portage is 6.5.7. How could I do that?? thanks Laurent Hi, you will have to search for the source and an ebuild. I remember that there is a place where all (old) ebuils are saved, but I cannot remember where. Then you'll need to mask all newer versions. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking login attempts to sshd and vsftpd
Richard Marza schrieb: I recently check my log files and discovered that there was a dictionary attack attempt on my daemons. sshd and vsftpd were the primary targets. Is there a script or tool to block the offending IP addresses using iptables. Something that checks to see if a minimum of attempts has occured and blocks them indefinitely based on that? Regards, Richard M. Hi, I am using that script: http://blinkeye.ch/dokuwiki/doku.php/projects/blacklist kh
[gentoo-user] Did Larry catch the swine flue?
Hi, I can't access http://packages.larrythecow.org/ . Does anybody know why?http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ says it is not just me. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Albert Hopkins schrieb: [snip] But they are wrong ;-) I'm actually against mixing testing and stable branches. Here's why. People choose "stable" because they are under the impression that it's somehow "safer" or "less troublesome" than "testing" (or what some people call "unstable"). I'm not so sure I agree but that's not my argument. My argument is when these people go and then try to get the "best of both worlds" by inter-marrying the branches. From my experience these people end up with less stable systems than choosing either "stable" or "testing". The problem is that they are mixing software that were not tested or intended to run with each other. And they come into problems even people in the so-called "unstable" branch don't experience. Recent examples include Xorg and GNOME updates. So these people, and the majority of them are newbies, come to think Gentoo is flaky but it's really their behavior. [snip] Hi, this for shure is not right, if you are only running few testing programs. I'd never run ~amd64 just for youtube-dl to be working fine. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Alex Schuster schrieb: Hi there! [snip]Or net-misc/youtube-dl, which changes quite frequently to adopt to youtube changes, and I want to always have the newest version. [snip] Hi, see bgo 286366 and report you are fine with it. Maybe it will become stable, then. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286366 Even better, also report a new bug as stablrq for youtube-dl-2009.09.13 kh
Re: [gentoo-user] What's the latest install-from-USB-key procedure?
waltd...@waltdnes.org schrieb: What's the latest install-from-USB-key procedure? The stuff I've found on Google and the Gentoo wiki references obsolete versions of Gentoo, and I don't know if it would work. I've got an Acer Aspire One, with no CD/DVD. Hi, This might be what you have been looking for. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml kh
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean does not remove due to link level dependencies
Alex Schuster schrieb: Hi there! [snip] Still, this is ugly I think. Another part of the emerge --depclean output is: * media-sound/esound-0.2.41 pulled in by: * app-office/gnucash-2.2.9-r1 needs libesd.so.0 * gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.26.0-r1 needs libesd.so.0 * gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.24.0 needs libesd.so.0 * gnome-extra/yelp-2.26.0 needs libesd.so.0 * media-libs/smpeg-0.4.4-r9 needs libesd.so.0 * media-sound/amarok-1.4.10_p20090130-r3 needs libesd.so.0 * media-sound/rhythmbox-0.11.6-r1 needs libesd.so.0 * media-sound/synaesthesia-2.4 needs libesd.so.0 * media-video/transcode-1.0.7 needs libesd.so.0 I do not have esd in my USE flags. Looks like all those packages use it anyway when it is available. [snip] Hi, esd might be in there because of the profile you use. Did you change your profile lately? You can add -esd to make.conf and see what happens. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} app to create DVD image?
Grant schrieb: Does anyone know of an app that will create a DVD image that can be burned to a DVD for playback on a regular home DVD player? media-video/devede http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html I've used it on oBSD and like it. WOW. Great program! One good tip deserves another so I highly recommend the movie "The Beautiful Truth". I wanted an app like this so I can burn copies of that movie for everyone I know. - Grant Hi, if you want to have an iso of an dvd you can use dd to do so. For a reason I don't understand you will have to run mplayer first for a second or so. (For me this works fine as long as the sources isn't bigger than 4,7GB) kh
[gentoo-user] slim-themes : gentoo 10 years of compiling
Hi, I created three slim themes based on the beautifully wallpapers created by Ben Stedman. You can find the wallpapers here. [1] The themes I created can be found here: gentoo_10_purple: screen shot: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_purple/gentoo_10_purple.png files: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_purple/gentoo_10_purple.tar.bz2 gentoo_10_blue: screen shot: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_blue/gentoo_10_blue.png files: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_blue/gentoo_10_blue.tar.bz2 gentoo_10_dark: screen shot: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_dark/gentoo_10_dark.png files: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_dark/gentoo_10_dark.tar.bz2 Hopefully they will be available with the slim-themes program soon. For the time being you might just untar them and move them to your /usr/share/slim/themes/ folder. Don't forget to edit your /etc/slim.conf Enjoy kh [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pr/releases/10.0/graphics.xml
Re: [gentoo-user]"Unknown Host" pops up when starting X
Xi Shen schrieb: hi, i have just emerged kde 4.3. when i ran startx, a message "Unknown Host" is displayed. Clearly, I missed some configuration. But what? hi, could it be this part: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=8#doc_chap2 kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation gentoo problem.
daid kahl schrieb: Hi. I tryed install "gentoo 10.0" and there was: "scanning for ata_piix" and istallation stopped. If i switch off the sata disk then installation runs good. I try "gentoo 10.1" now and stopped on: "Scanning for ehci-hcd...usb core". I switch off usb on motherboard and installation continue. But then stopped on: "Scanning for scsi_wait_scan". I have not scisi disks. My matherboard is Asus P4P800SE. What to do? Try another live cd based on Gentoo, like System Rescue CD. If it can boot live kernel, then maybe you should try Gentoo 2007.0 or 2008. I've installed plenty of systems with a Gentoo 2007.0 CD-R I have kicking around. ~daid Hi, why not take the autobuild? It is only on day old! http://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/ kh
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM
pk schrieb: Dale wrote: I think mine has a 3Gb limit too. I have two installed tho. It works well for me. I think someone (in?)famous said: "640K is more memory than anyone will ever need..." ;-) Best regards Peter K Hi, my first Mac had 256kb. I upgraded it to 1mb because kit had one mb as well ;-) I still have this box. Didn't use it for years. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: [snip] As I see I am not even able to use much RAM with several (vmware-)VMs running, so the 8 gigs will maybe stay some number to impress *some* people with (until everyone gets 8 gigs into their supermarket-PCs). Anyway. Stefan Hi, my motherboard cannot go above 3gigs so I am very impressed ;-) kh
Re: [gentoo-user] qt-dbus blocker
Alan McKinnon schrieb: On Tuesday 13 October 2009 14:48:35 Allan Gottlieb wrote: I just started getting this blocker yesterday (was away for the weekend) [blocks B ] >x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.1-r (">x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.1-r" is blocking x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.1, x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.1, x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1, x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.5.1, x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.1, x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1) (the entire output from emerge world is below EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--ask --deep --tree --verbose --with-bdeps=y") I read the news article and was directed to http://www.linuxized.com/p192, which said to add dbus and qt3support to my USE flags. I already had dbus and adding qt3support did not change the result. The std handbook recommendation is to remove qt-dbus, but the news article suggests this one is more complicated. Should I perhaps mask qu-dbus-4.5.2 and if so do I then remove the mask when the rest has installed. This is a stable x86 box. qt*-4.5.1 blocks qt*-4.5.2. It's not a simple single package that you upgrade, it's multiple packages and throughout the build you will have incompatible packages installed at the same time. Either: unmerge all of qt emerge all of qt or: upgrade to masked portage-2.2 which can deal with such things easily. Note that you will likely need to rebuild kdelibs and other stuff after building qt. There's an elog about it. Hi, I am running stable portage as well and it takes good care of the blocks with the "b". Really the only one you have to take care of manually is the one with the "B". Do you have the old qt-4.* meta package installed? Are you masking or keywording any qt stuff? Maybe masking qt-dbus-4.5.2 as you suggested is a good idea. That way you will get rid of all the "b" stuff. Then you can take a deeper look on what is left. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error
Alan McKinnon schrieb: But German is consistent. English is not consistent. I am not so sure about German being consistent. As a fact often a lot of information is lost during translation. This is more likely the main problem. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM
Dale schrieb: KH wrote: Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: Greets, gentoo-users, as I ordered myself an upgrade from 4 to 8 gigs of RAM for my main workstation, just because it's rather cheap now and I have good use for the "old" 4 gigs I wonder what to do with those shiny new additional 4 gigs. OK, linux uses it for IO-caching, yep ... I have some ram-disk already for compiling stuff (portage-stuff) and I can think of increasing app-caches like operas own ram-cache to make use of the memory. I will give my virtual machines more RAM to improve their performance, yes, this is maybe the main reason for me to upgrade RAM. But are there any other things I might forget? Are there any creative non-ricer ways to really make use of it? I would like to hear your opinion on this, I am quite sure the gentoo-community knows one trick or the other ;-) Thanks a lot, Stefan Hi, you could regularly measure your disk speed by coping huge amounts of data to a second ram-disk, and back. Then you have a good knowledge of read and write speed of your hdd :-) I often use the ram disk for creating iso images before burning them to dvd/cd. This is a lot faster than doing this on an hdd. kh Why not use hdparm -Tt to test the speed of the drives? It works pretty good here. Dale :-) :-) Hi, that wouldn't involve the extra ram ;-) kh
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: Greets, gentoo-users, as I ordered myself an upgrade from 4 to 8 gigs of RAM for my main workstation, just because it's rather cheap now and I have good use for the "old" 4 gigs I wonder what to do with those shiny new additional 4 gigs. OK, linux uses it for IO-caching, yep ... I have some ram-disk already for compiling stuff (portage-stuff) and I can think of increasing app-caches like operas own ram-cache to make use of the memory. I will give my virtual machines more RAM to improve their performance, yes, this is maybe the main reason for me to upgrade RAM. But are there any other things I might forget? Are there any creative non-ricer ways to really make use of it? I would like to hear your opinion on this, I am quite sure the gentoo-community knows one trick or the other ;-) Thanks a lot, Stefan Hi, you could regularly measure your disk speed by coping huge amounts of data to a second ram-disk, and back. Then you have a good knowledge of read and write speed of your hdd :-) I often use the ram disk for creating iso images before burning them to dvd/cd. This is a lot faster than doing this on an hdd. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error
Grant Edwards schrieb: [snip] It's the same in mathematics for many/most operators i - j and j - i aren't the same thing. The position of the variable relative to the operator tells you want's going on. While a + b is equal to b + a, that's a property of the particular operator. OK, this is waaay off topic now... a+b=b+a is a definition which does not have to be this way. It can be seen (in reality) but it can not be proofed (in math).
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error
Alan McKinnon schrieb: On Sunday 11 October 2009 23:25:02 Dale wrote: To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now have to downgrade myself to "still wet behind the ears"? I'm 42 so I got your back. lol Dale Hehe, you can join me in the lucky crowd - people who went to school when Pluto was still a planet :-) rofl but same for me and I am only 28. But I'm not giving up the nic I use everywhere except mailing lists: splog: snarky pedantic lazy old git My 12 year-old figured that out and reckoned it was ahuge joke, so he told his mum (my ex). She was decidedly not ... amused :-) rofl Thanks for that mail. Maid me smile for minutes. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error
Peter Ruskin schrieb: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like "its" = "belonging to it"; "it's" = "it is". Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too. kh To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? To use a trendy idiom: That's cool. That is a body of acquired knowledge.
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error
KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like "its" = "belonging to it"; "it's" = "it is". Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too. kh To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ...
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error
Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like "its" = "belonging to it"; "it's" = "it is". Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error
Justin schrieb: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is "Paket" they come up with packet. Hi, This is OT: I am sure I don't have the best English and I do a lot of faults. But in Germany *everybody* believes to speak English. Pleas correct things like packet / package. Bad translation can cause a lot of problems. (Also one can easily see if some news is only translated from English or if the network has a man down wherever.) Porsche for example told their employees not to use English for their work. Person A translated something from German into English and person B had to do it vis versa and half of the content was lost somewhere on the way. Anyway this will become very OT ... kh
Re: [gentoo-user] commands to show where a package is installed?
Zhengquan Zhang schrieb: Hi, Gentoo users, I am new to gentoo and am wondering if there is a command to show where a package is installed? which file is installed in which directory? Thanks a lot, Hi, not that powerful but sometimes also a help: whereis - locate the binary, source, and manual page files for a command kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick
Stroller schrieb: On 8 Oct 2009, at 12:22, KH wrote: ... as a matter of fact, you *can't*. I once formated a USB stick as swap (is it 82 or 83?) and used it in Linux as swap. (very little ram on the old vaio I used.) There was a second partition as raiser(?) and also 82 or 83. Anyway later I wanted to use it again and windows was unable to format it. I think it didn't even show up. Did you look in Disk Management? Formatted disks show in My Computer, but disks with an "alien" filesystem show only in Disk Management on XP, which is a far less obvious place to find. Stroller. Hi, Maybe I didn't. I don't do Windows anymore so when I have to use it somewhere I am often even more lost than with gentoo :-) kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick
Daniel Quinn schrieb: Then when you're back at the prompt, run: # mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 ...if sda is in fact your key. You can even add "-L LabelName" to attach a label to the stick: # mkfs.vfat -L "USB Stick" /dev/sda1 Hi, from man mkfs.vfat: -n volume-name: Sets the volume name (label) of the file system. The volume name can be up to 11 characters long. The default is no label. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick
Neil Bothwick schrieb: It may not be standards-compliant, but at least is is consistently broken. In some way this is funny and makes me smile. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick
daid kahl schrieb: The stick will be used in MSWindows mainly. In that case, I'd play safe and format it in Windows. Ah booo! You're formatting it anyway, so there's no data to lose, and I can't imagine you'd break it by trying to format it. Try it in Linux first and let us know how it goes. I never formatted a USB stick before, and it might be neat. You can always point-and-click to format it in Windows I'm sure. Regards, daid Hi, as a matter of fact, you *can't*. I once formated a USB stick as swap (is it 82 or 83?) and used it in Linux as swap. (very little ram on the old vaio I used.) There was a second partition as raiser(?) and also 82 or 83. Anyway later I wanted to use it again and windows was unable to format it. I think it didn't even show up. I had to plug it in Linux and change to b(?). Also I once had a problem with a fat partition of around 200gb on an removable usb hdd. Windows does not like that big FAT. I think the maximum is somewhere around 70? They want to force you to use ntfs then. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] URGENT: Dead Keyboard after emerge --update world --deep
Marco schrieb: Hi all, after emerge --sync && emerge --update world --deep my keyboard (in X) does not work anymore. Since I am switching to slim after boot, I cannot even change to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1. I guess something went wrong with the Xorg-update. I am now using a live-CD to be able to write this email. Please let me know what information you need else (logs, etc.) Any tips, hints and suggestions on how to solve my problem highly appreciated! -- Best regards, Marco Hi, I bet depclean removed consolkit. I had the same problem. Try the "I" stuff during booting like Kenneth wrote. Then sync again and see what -DuavN system (or world) tries to install. Like I said I bet there will be consolkit among them. If I loose my bet it must be somthing else from the xorg update. Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] makewhatis -u
Dale schrieb: [snip] You run locate every hour? You must really add files a lot. :-o Dale :-) :-) I am adding a lot of my old cds from the garage. Old backups and stuff. :-) kh
[gentoo-user] makewhatis -u
Hi, during an update I read somewhere something like: "Hey run makewhatis -u . Also you should have a cronjob doing this regularly." I never heard of this before (but I am not the real geek - more like a user) but I wonder how regularly I should have the cronjob run the command. Is this to be done with every update or like every hour (like I do with locate -u)? Thanks for suggestions
Re: [gentoo-user] Does Firefox call Google?
Grant schrieb: [snip] and the home page is not set to go there.[snip] Hi, does this also include stuff like google analytics? Like are there adds on the homepage? kh http://www.ghostery.com/apps/google_analytics
Re: [gentoo-user] connecting phone (sonyericsson c702) as mass storage device: one works, not the other [SOLVED]
Erik schrieb: Carlos skrev: Erik a écrit : I have a strange problem when trying to connect a telephone (SonyEricsspm C702) as a mass storage device.I have 2 such telephones, let us call them Black and Green. [snip] /var/log/messages for the 2 telephones: Google result from "Sony Eri Memory Stick" "hostbyte=0x05 driverbyte=0x00" http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=548343 Of course, this may not be your problem but worth comparing phone firmware. That was it! Now I remember that I had upgraded the firmware in Black back in April. Did the same with Green now and it works! Thanks a lot! Hi, how did you update the phone? My question is: did you have to install the 30MB download (for firmware) on windows or did it work with wine and gentoo? kh
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean
Krzysztof Poc schrieb: Great thanks to all of you for immediate help. "emenrge -n" solved the problem. By the way "gcc-config -l" shows: [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardened [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednopie [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednopiessp [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednossp [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 * [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 Hi, so it looks like you manually added gcc-3* to your world file but did not do so with 4.1.2 until now. Since you have a newer version installed (4.3.2) depclean was removing older gcc not in world. Do you need the old gccs you are keeping? Is there a reason for not switching to 4.3.2? In case you didn't know the gcc-upgrad guide till now: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml kh
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean
Krzysztof Poc schrieb: Hello I found that "emerge --depclean" removes the packages that are necessary for my system: gcc-4.1.2 font-cursor-misc font-misc-misc I have also gcc-3.4.6-r2 installed. It does not remove gcc-3.4.6-r2. After unmerging gcc-4.1.2 I cannot compile anything of course. After unmerging font-misc-misc I can't see Polish fonts in Xterm. I don't know how to solve this problem. Should I make those packages more valuable to the system ? How can I do that. Is my xorg server incorrectly configured. I have xorg 1.5 with HAL. My system does not use any xorg.conf file. It autodetects configuration at startup. When migrating to xorg 1.5 I did not do any special steps to configure and install any Polish fonts. I only made the modifications to support the Polish keyboard layout. Thank you for help. Hi, did you already unmerge gcc-4.1.2? What is the output of gcc-config -l when was your last emerge --depclean? You should always run emerge --depclean -av! so you have a better chance to stop any unwanted effects. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] How to set udev rule?
Song Zhiwei schrieb: > Hi all, > > I complied a driver esdcan_usb331.so. I'd like use udev to create > character devices /dev/can0 and /dev/can1 with major 50 and minor 0/1 > for the driver. How to write the udev rule for it? > > The dmesg is: > esd CAN driver: CAN_USB331 > esd CAN driver: baudrate not set > esd CAN driver: mode = 0x, major = 50, verbose = 0x0001 > esd CAN driver: version 3.8.3 06:03:32 Aug 24 2009: successfully loaded > usbcore: registered new interface driver CAN_USB331 > Hi, there are two good guides for this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html Regards kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Network message encryption
Xianwen Chen schrieb: > On 8/17/09, KH wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> IIRC psi can be used togetzter with gnupg. This should do ;-) >> >> kh >> >> > > Hi KH, > > What's IIRC psi? Could you please provide a link? > > Best regards, > > Wen > > Hi Wen, IIRC = Acronym for If I Recall(or Remember) Correctly. See [1] PSI = net-im/psi See [2] and [3] This is from the PSI website [3]: Using the same SSL technology that makes it possible for you to safely shop on the web, Psi automatically encrypts its communication with compatible IM servers to provide a secure connection over untrusted networks like public WiFi access points. For advanced security needs, Psi can also encrypt messages end-to-end with OpenPGP. Regards kh [1] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=iirc&r=f [2] http://packages.larrythecow.org/?v=pkg&c=net-im&s=psi [3] http://psi-im.org/
Re: [gentoo-user] Network message encryption
Xianwen Chen schrieb: > Hello all, > > I'm looking for a network message encryption method. Please kindly > tell me if you know any Instant Messenger which supports encryption. > Thank you very much! > > Best regards, > > Wen > Hi, IIRC psi can be used togetzter with gnupg. This should do ;-) kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /
bn schrieb: > > Isn't "do A if you are in situation X , because of Z" the right pattern? > > m. > That's only if situation x is constant and absolutely known to the one replying. But then it might not be of any use for somebody else. Most likely there will not be a second person with the exact same situation x around. Also I learn a lot by following the way to the solution. Like give me the formula and not the answer and next time I can search for everything myself. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /
Alexander Pilipovsky schrieb: > bn and KH, exuse me if I send not a good question, I have no many > experience yet :) > > That's where all of us started on day ;-) kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /
Alan McKinnon schrieb: > On Wednesday 10 June 2009 23:24:50 KH wrote: >> Alan McKinnon schrieb: >>> On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:50:27 Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: >>>> But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? >>> As much as you need. >>> >>> There's only one person who can determine that. That person is you. >> Hi, >> >> I am sorry but I think if someone asks about an opinion here, writing >> something like: "that's all you desision, gentoo is not taking your hand >> for anything" is not helpful at all. >> We all know that our systems are fit to our personal needs. So every >> system is different. But asking should leed to something like: consider >> this, consider that ... > > And how EXACTLY do you want me to answer the original question? Be specific, > "You should have done " responses don't help anyone. The question only > has vague guidelines for answers and is totally install- and need-dependant. > > Do keep in mind that the original is a "do my homework for me" question and > my > reply was designed to get the OP to look for himself. He didn't even post how > big his current /var is or what his machine is used for or even which logs > he'd like to have and keep. > Hi, I totaly do agree with you. There has been nothing indicated to give a one out of one answer. In case someone is a noob, ( I am still one because I don't no anything about how everything is working) what you just wrote is the answer. Like what are your needs and what resurces do you have? Like I don't think it was something like "do my homework" but more like "I don't even know what to look for". This list is realy helpful. I am often searching answers or learn by reading but sometimes it is just infront of someone not even knowing it is there. The OP said nothing and this is what could be replyed. Like "You said nothing". Often googling for something is leading to lists where absolutly no help can be found because someone writes something like: "what can I do". secend replays like: "do A". Frst: "cool this did it for me." In the end nobody else can use this solution because it is just not EXACT. So you are right. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /
Alan McKinnon schrieb: > On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:50:27 Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: >> But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? > > As much as you need. > > There's only one person who can determine that. That person is you. > > > Hi, I am sorry but I think if someone asks about an opinion here, writing something like: "that's all you desision, gentoo is not taking your hand for anything" is not helpful at all. We all know that our systems are fit to our personal needs. So every system is different. But asking should leed to something like: consider this, consider that ... kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /
Dirk Heinrichs schrieb: > Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 20:55:16 schrieb Paul Hartman: > >> I had a similar problem, 100% cpu usage caused by a daemon that did >> not respond well when network connection was lost. My >> /var/log/messages grew over 60GB in a few hours with the same message >> repeated tens of millions of times. > > Well, that's the reason you should put /var on its own partition/logical > volume. > > Bye... > > Dirk Well something creating that much messages is just buggi! The cpu will be on havy duty no diffrence where /var is mounted. This is a bug which should not happen. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] How to list every installed package?
Johannes Geiss schrieb: > Hi there, > > how can I list every installed package in Gentoo? The > file /var/lib/portage/world shows some installed packages, but how can I > see all other packages which have been installed automatically? > > Thanks for any help > Johannes emerge -pev world
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best way to determine what video card I have?
James Homuth schrieb: > > Then you must be on a laptop but you didn't say so ;) > > > Well, I am. But I also can't see, as in can't see. So that wouldn't really > be relevant anyway. > > Hi, what laptop do you have? Did you search http://www.linux-laptop.net/ (it was helpful for me) and (in German) http://tuxmobil.de/mylaptops_de.html ? Also it might be helpful to post the output of lspci | grep VGA so someone might just know what to use instead of being forced to guess ;-) Also I just did a quick search at larry showing there are three different xf86 intel video drivers: http://packages.larrythecow.org/?v=pkg&c=x11-drivers&s=xf86-video-i740 http://packages.larrythecow.org/?v=pkg&c=x11-drivers&s=xf86-video-intel http://packages.larrythecow.org/?v=pkg&c=x11-drivers&s=xf86-video-vermilion kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange world
econti schrieb: > Hi all > my to-day "world" is the one attached. I am just a little bit confused. > Can anyone explain to me what's happening? :-( > Thanks > emilio > Also there is some qt stuff going on: [blocks b ]