Re: [gentoo-user] Dirty COW bug
On 21 October 2016 at 17:04, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > https://github.com/dirtycow/dirtycow.github.io/wiki/VulnerabilityDetails > > > > Are we patched? I'm running 4.4.21-gentoo > > > > Not yet: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=597624 > > You're probably going to want to update to 4.4.26. It has been > released, though it doesn't look like it is packaged in Gentoo yet. > I've been running upstream's git for a while (currently on 4.4.26). > > -- > Rich > > Would a Gentoo .config work with the upstream "vanilla" 4.4.26 kernel? I know Gentoo does some patching to the upstream sources and menuconfig has additional features thereby. ~ Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] showing files in numerical order
>All digits are taken into account, but not as digits. This is a lexical >sort based on characters, not numbers. I think Neil Bothwick is right. Also, sorry for the joke earlier. I just found it ironic that the file sorting in KDE 5 suddenly borked itself and resembled file sorting in Windows in that respect. Unless there is an explicit option somewhere in KDE 5 to choose sorting mode or it's mentioned in some changelogs why sorting was altered, I would file a bug report. Best regards, Andy On 20 October 2016 at 22:04, J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: > On Thursday, October 20, 2016 08:25:22 AM Philip Webb wrote: > > Using Gwenview with KDE 4, the thumbnail view showed images > > in correct numerical order : image1 image2 ... image9 image10 ... . > > With KDE 5, it's gone stupid : image1 image11 image12 ... > > image 19 image2 image20 image21 ... > > > > Is there a setting anywhere > > to tell it to list files in the proper numerical order ? > > Are you sure it was showing them in numerical order? > And not sorted based on timestamp? > > -- > Joost > >
Re: [gentoo-user] showing files in numerical order
You may be surprised, but this is the proper numerical order - the way Windows Explorer normally does it. Only the 1st digit is taken into account as you noticed. Care to try renaming the images to "image_xxx"? Perhaps that helps. Best regards, Andy On 20 October 2016 at 14:25, Philip Webb <purs...@ca.inter.net> wrote: > Using Gwenview with KDE 4, the thumbnail view showed images > in correct numerical order : image1 image2 ... image9 image10 ... . > With KDE 5, it's gone stupid : image1 image11 image12 ... > image 19 image2 image20 image21 ... > > Is there a setting anywhere > to tell it to list files in the proper numerical order ? > > -- > ,, > SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca > > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Small computing recommendations?
Dear Daniel, Wish it was possible to "like" someone's e-mail. Thank you for letting us know about your endeavors and documenting your efforts :). Best regards, Andy Mender On 12 October 2016 at 14:38, Daniel Quinn <gen...@danielquinn.org> wrote: > A while back I looked into a similar setup and was frustrated with the > hacker-esque nature of these tiny machines. They typically don't come with > a case, sometimes not even with power, and getting a working Gentoo setup > was likely going to be an effort I didn't want to spend. > > So I ended up buying an Intel NUC: basically a tiny main board with a CPU > in a small simple square case + ram (you pick) + a hard drive (SSD or HDD, > you pick). It has HDMI or VGA out, sound, a few USB ports and on-board > ethernet as well. Getting Gentoo up & running on it was painless once I > turned of UEFI (it makes my head hurt). Details on how I did it all was > here: http://danielquinn.org/blog/gentoo-on-the-intel-nuc/ > > It'll cost you more than a Pi or some of the others, but it's basically a > tiny, quiet, whole computer, so the hassle is probably greatly diminished. > > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Small computing recommendations?
Dear Daniel, You're correct, Arduino is for tech projects. Not much of an actual "computer", because both the processor and amount of RAM are too weak. However, there is a new board that supposedly runs a full-blown FreeBSD 3.x version. Cannot find a link to the blog entry now, sorry :(. I would recommend taking a look at the Beaglebone Black boards. In some cases they're more potent than a standard Raspberry Pi. Since you mentioned being FSF friendly, does Raspberry not use a Broadcom chip for graphics? The default will almost always be some sort of Debian-based distro. There is a Gentoo ARM project, so you could have a look whether it complies with your expectations :). Best regards, Andy Mender On 12 October 2016 at 13:56, Daniel Campbell <z...@gentoo.org> wrote: > My birthday's coming up in 10 days and my SO and others are wanting to > know what to get me for my birthday. I'm slowly growing tired of trying > to keep my desktop Gentoo machine lightweight and "clean", so it'd be > fun to hack on a little computer that I could possibly DIY a case or > other arrangement for. Maybe a file/web server, or a "freetoo" machine > where I can experiment with being rigidly FSF-APPROVED or other fun > shenanigans. > > I've looked around at the Raspberry Pi 3, the Pocket CHIP (I also have > PICO-8 and am hacking something for it), the Pi Zero, and have heard > about the Beaglebone and Arduino, though isn't the latter meant for more > interactive or robotic thing due to the large array of IO pins? > > If I had the right tools or gadgets, creating my own UMPC would be > really fun. > > At a minimum, I would prefer HDMI instead of composite or VGA, though it > could be headless and I just use SSH or an Adafruit LCD. > > Any opinions or use cases and stories would be much appreciated. I would > prefer running Gentoo on it, but Debian, Mint, or Slackware would be > tolerable. > -- > Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer > OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net > fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 > >
Re: [gentoo-user] How to find the EFI partition?
Dear Daniel, You don't mention what is "the prettiest desktop there ever was", but I reckon that it's a) a 64-bit PC and b) it's modern enough to have UEFI, not the standard BIOS. Therefore, the drive is a GPT-partitioned drive (as that's UEFI's requirement) and you have a /boot or /boot/efi partition somewhere in the table layout you provides us with. It does not necessarily need to be called "EFI partition" or something of that sort. Per my old Windows 7 installed, Windows used a rather small boot partition of ~200 mb. Your Windows 8 install is consistent with that observation. In addition, you have something similar in your Windows 10 installation, from the first 1mb bit onward and spanning ~105 MB. It's also tagged as "boot". Best regards, Andy On 12 October 2016 at 10:31, Daniel Quinn <gen...@danielquinn.org> wrote: > On 11/10/16 22:47, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > > As far as I know, you can’t use UEFI on a msdos partitioned hard drive. > > So… are you not just using an old but known and stable BIOS? > > Honestly, that hadn't occurred to me. The BIOS is fancy (lots of colour > and supports a mouse!) and I thought that Windows 10 only worked with > UEFI. Alright, I'll proceed under the impression that I'm working with a > standard BIOS and write Grub to the MBR as in the Old Days. Thanks for the > clarity on this. > >
Re: [gentoo-user] several global use flags should be local
I'm actually surprised those USE flags are not local. Except for 3dfx, I have never seen them. And yes, I agree, this is a topic for gentoo-dev. Can someone move it there somehow? Best regards, Andy On 9 October 2016 at 23:28, Mike Gilbert <flop...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Ayush <sixpointz...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > I've already raised a bug report about this issue over here [1]. There > are > > several global USE flags defined here [2] that should be local according > to > > the this [3] definition. Some of these USE flags are - > > > > 3dfx > > pcntl > > inifile > > sharedmem > > simplexml > > wddx > > oci8-instant-client > > qdbm > > tokenizer > > > > Shouldn't these USE flags be local? Most of them are applicable to only > 2-3 > > packages or sometimes even a single package. > > This would be a reasonable topic for discussion on the gentoo-dev mailing > list. > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype users
I am rather thankful that you did this and at the same time surprised Microsoft decided to work on a dedicated Skype client for Linux. Since the GNU/Linux community is responsive, we might make considerable contribution to troubleshooting the client. I will probably give it a go to see how it fairs against google-talkplugin. Regards, Andy On 4 October 2016 at 23:12, Raymond Jennings <shent...@gmail.com> wrote: > Please be advised that skype has been split off into two packages > > * skype remains for the "classic" version of skype > * skypeforlinux is the new package name for microsoft's alpha version > > There were some version number snarls and it was decided that a split > would be cleaner. > > Blame microsoft for giving their current version a lower number than the > classic one. >
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommend a good replacement for XFCE?
Dear Grant, I would sincerely second Openbox + tint2. That's my all times favourite. Bear in mind that the stable tint2wizard/conf doesn't handle the Launcher properly. For that you need to emerge tint2 with the testing "~amd64" flag :). There are some additional goodies in the more modern tint2 panel, too. Best regards, Andy On 29 September 2016 at 21:52, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2016-09-25, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> I liked openbox though, so if LXDE refuses to handle multiple > >> screens I may stick with openbox and try to find some other panel > >> program that does work with multiple screens. > > I gave up on LXDE. I messed around with it a bit more and it seems to > have a hard-wired assumption that computers are single-user and > single-screen. Besides that, the LXDE community also seems to be > rather small/inactive. I posted questions about multi-screen use to > the LXDE forum, but the user forum only has a couple of posts per > month, and few of them ever get any responses. > > > Openbox+tint2 looks promising. > > That's what I've settled on. It took a couple hours of fiddling to > setup a startup script, configure the panels, the window manager > itself, and build a root window menu that's close enough to my old one > that I don't flail about like Donald Trump making fun of the > handicapped. > > For generating an openbox root menu, I recommend obmenu-generator. > > > I still have to figure out one last tweak to openbox's behavior. When > > you do ctrl-alt-right/left it switches virtual desktops on the screen > > that has input focus, and I want it to switch on the screen where the > > mouse pointer is. I know it's trivial, and all you have to do is > > click before hitting ctrl-alt-right/left. > > I haven't figured that out yet, so I'll have to adapt. :) > > -- > Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Does someone from > at PEORIA have a SHORTER > gmail.comATTENTION span than me? > > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Mentors project?
I have also heard of the concept of Gentoo mentors in the past, though it didn't seem like anyone is specifically involved. I think it would be a nice initiative, but of course specifics then need to be drafted. For instance, should it be irc based, forum based or both? What would be the incentive for mentor-wannabes? Etc. Best regards, Andy Mender On 27 Sep 2016 17:22, "Raymond Jennings" <shent...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm just wondering, is there a project meant to act as a team of mentors, > ready to take on new recruits? > > Points: > > * I haven't noticed an official grouping of any sort that organizes > potential mentors into a cohesive group > > * I noticed the #gentoo-mentors channel. It appears to be registered, and > is occupied by ChanServ, but nobody (op or otherwise) is in it. > > I've also had some trouble in the past during my devhood journey. A lot > of it is my fault for being waylaid by RL drama, but my two previous > mentors had to resign due to their own RL takedowns, and it "sure would be > nice" if there were a labelled team I could approach. > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Recruiters/Mentoring has > instructions for mentors, but I don't see any project/subproject on Google > specifically meant to organize. > > Would it benefit gentoo to have "mentors" as an official project, possibly > as a comres subproject? > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!
On Wed, May 29, 2013, at 04:25 AM, Andrea Conti wrote: We can't have more then 4 primary partitions on a hard disk. Gentoo needs 2 partitions, /boot and a Virtual partition (that count's as well as one primary) with all the other folders. Windows will create 2. and Mac OSX minimum 1, am I right?! Your Windows partitions have to be in the first four, but OSX and linux partitions can be anywhere thanks to the gpt partition table. Things are both simpler and more complex than that. The real problem is that while rEFIt/rEFInd, OSX and Linux have no problem dealing with a GPT partition table, Windows only supports MBR. (Windows 7+ supports GPT partition tables but it can only boot from a GPT disk in EFI mode. On a Mac OSes other than OSX must be booted in BIOS emulation mode, therefore the requirement for MBR on the system disk for Windows still stands). GPT and MBR, however, are only indexing schemes: they describe how many partitions are on a disk and their location, but apart from providing a high level 'type' label they have nothing to do with what's inside a partition. GPT-partitioned disks traditionallly have what's called a 'protective MBR', i.e. a dummy MBR which defines a single partition of type 0xEE spanning the whole disk; this is intended to keep partitioning tools that are not GPT-aware from considering the disk uninitialized and inadvertently destroying its contents. However, nothing prevents you from adding to the protective MBR regular entries for some of the partitions, and have the disk look like a 'normal' MBR disk as far as those partitions are concerned. The result is called a 'hybrid MBR' and it's the main trick behind Boot Camp. There is really nothing special about booting (or installing) Windows on a Mac: it just works, as long as you have both a properly set up hybrid MBR with an entry for the Windows partition and a suitable EFI boot manager. The former can be done with a tool such as gpt-fdisk (you can easily find a binary package for OSX, and there are directions for dealing with hybrid MBRs on the author's site); rEFInd is your best option for the latter. The standard Apple boot manager will also do, if you only need to boot OSX and Windows. Booting Linux works in a similar fashion. You don't even need a GPT-aware bootloader: good old GRUB 1 is perfectly up to the task, as long as there is an entry for its boot partition in the hybrid MBR. Then you can load a kernel with GPT support, and from there it's just a standard multiboot setup. HTH, andrea Thanks Andrea. I had though that the MBR was automatically mapped to the the first 4 gpt partitions because that's they way it's always been on my system. So now I wonder how it's been set that way, because I know i've never touched gpt-fdisk and I didn't use bootcamp. Maybe the refit installer.
Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!
On Tue, May 28, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Tamer Higazi wrote: Hi! My questions: 1. Do I need bootcamp?! You don't need bootcamp, but it does make the windows install more streamlined. You will probably still want bootcamp to install the apple drivers post-install regardless. The drivers are the OS X install dvd. 2. Why am I not able to accomplish this task with grubm and have to take refind ? I have never had any luck getting grub to boot OS X. It might be possible for grub to load refit/refind, but I've not tried this. 3. What would be the way to install Windows, Linux and Mac on 1 hard disk. Would that be possible? Yes, there are several ways to do this. If I remember right, here's how I did it. 1) Partition the disk from the OS X install dvd using the gpt partition table, then install OS X. 2) Boot into OS X and install refit or refind. 3) Install Windows. Refit should recognize the windows install dvd, if it doesn't, restart with the option key held down. Make sure to install windows to one of the first three partitions. After the install if you have trouble booting you may have to reinstall refit. Just use the option key to select your boot partition. 4) Install linux. I used grub 1 as the linux bootloader, installed to the linux boot partition so that it wouldn't mess with refit.
Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!
On Tue, May 28, 2013, at 02:21 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: Seems to be that GRUB2 auto detects Snow Leopard partitions. So you are right, installing Mac OS X, then windows, then Linux with Grub2: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/189079-grub2-as-the-only-boot-loader-its-possible/ But there is one more problem at the whole thing.. We can't have more then 4 primary partitions on a hard disk. Gentoo needs 2 partitions, /boot and a Virtual partition (that count's as well as one primary) with all the other folders. Windows will create 2. and Mac OSX minimum 1, am I right?! Your Windows partitions have to be in the first four, but OSX and linux partitions can be anywhere thanks to the gpt partition table.
[gentoo-user] [science overlay] librecad ebuild troubles?
I am trying to emerge librecad-1.0.0_rc1 from the science overlay; however, it appears to be missing some crucial steps (silly things like fetching the source and building the program). The output from emerge borders on trivial: http://pastebin.com/1HN9x299 Since that doesn't look very helpful, I also tried emerging with --debug. http://pastebin.com/ZcGnxhyc Unfortunately, I'm not practiced enough at reading this (nor educated enough in how ebuilds work internally) to really read through that. Any ideas why this ebuild is essentially doing nothing? Thanks, -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU
On 07/26/2011 12:22 PM, pk wrote: On 2011-07-26 22:36, Alokat wrote: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L7100 @ 1.20GHz snip I guess *core2* is the right one? Yes, acc. to: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/Intel#Core_2_Duo.2FQuad.2C_Xeon_51xx.2F53xx.2F54xx.2F3360.2C_Pentium_Dual-Core_T23xx.2B.2FE.2C_Celeron_Dual-Core HTH Best regards Peter K Another good trick I've found on the forums is to run: $ gcc -### -e -v -march=native /usr/include/stdlib.h The last line of output will include the various CFLAGS that -march=native picks. In my case (Phenom II 955): /usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/cc1 -quiet /usr/include/stdlib.h -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 *-march=amdfam10 -mcx16 -msahf -mpopcnt* --param l1-cache-size=64 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 --param l2-cache-size=512 -mtune=amdfam10 -quiet -dumpbase stdlib.h -auxbase stdlib -o /tmp/ccR1PlNZ.s --output-pch=/usr/include/stdlib.h.gch I typically use -march=native when I don't need to worry about distcc, or the options from that output that start with -m. -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+C not working over ssh?
On 05/25/2011 07:08 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: * Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.com [110524 18:02]: On 05/24/2011 12:38 PM, Todd Goodman wrote: * Andy Wilkinsondrukar...@gmail.com [110524 12:24]: I can't say for sure when this started, as I have gone a while without accessing my computer remotely much, but perhaps since my last upgrade (which may have included openrc), ctrl-c doesn't work over ssh. I have tested this from multiple workstations and even my droid, using different terminal emulators, and have got consistent results. I'm not even sure where to start looking. Googling didn't find me much (at least, not much that's current at all; 5 year-old ubuntu bugs aren't very useful), and I'm not sure at all what might be causing this. Could anyone here point me to something that might be causing this? Thanks, -Andy I don't have any problems. What does 'stty -a' show for the intr= bit? Todd $ stty -a speed 38400 baud; rows 23; columns 80; line = 0; intr = ^C; ... Which looks right, but when I try to use Ctrl-C, this happens: $ ping localhost PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.037 ms ^C64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.032 ms ^C^C^C64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.032 ms ^C^C^C^C^C^C64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=0.034 ms ^C^C^C^C^C^C64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=5 ttl=64 time=0.032 ms ^Z This does NOT happen locally: from a console or terminal at the machine, I can interrupt just fine. Ctrl-Z does//work over ssh. Thanks, -Andy Very strange (as someone else said.) Only thing I can think of is that something in your startup scripts (.profile, .bashrc, etc.) are doing something different between the two logins. I've seen that most often when they do things based on TERM and it's different between a local login and remote. Maybe make sure your startup scripts run with a 'set -x' at the beginning and compare the output? Good luck, Todd Well, for no good reason, a reboot once I was back at the machine fixed the issue. I'm not sure why; I didn't change anything. I hate not knowing why reboots fix things. :( -Andy
[gentoo-user] Ctrl+C not working over ssh?
I can't say for sure when this started, as I have gone a while without accessing my computer remotely much, but perhaps since my last upgrade (which may have included openrc), ctrl-c doesn't work over ssh. I have tested this from multiple workstations and even my droid, using different terminal emulators, and have got consistent results. I'm not even sure where to start looking. Googling didn't find me much (at least, not much that's current at all; 5 year-old ubuntu bugs aren't very useful), and I'm not sure at all what might be causing this. Could anyone here point me to something that might be causing this? Thanks, -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+C not working over ssh?
On 05/24/2011 12:38 PM, Todd Goodman wrote: * Andy Wilkinsondrukar...@gmail.com [110524 12:24]: I can't say for sure when this started, as I have gone a while without accessing my computer remotely much, but perhaps since my last upgrade (which may have included openrc), ctrl-c doesn't work over ssh. I have tested this from multiple workstations and even my droid, using different terminal emulators, and have got consistent results. I'm not even sure where to start looking. Googling didn't find me much (at least, not much that's current at all; 5 year-old ubuntu bugs aren't very useful), and I'm not sure at all what might be causing this. Could anyone here point me to something that might be causing this? Thanks, -Andy I don't have any problems. What does 'stty -a' show for the intr= bit? Todd $ stty -a speed 38400 baud; rows 23; columns 80; line = 0; intr = ^C; ... Which looks right, but when I try to use Ctrl-C, this happens: $ ping localhost PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.037 ms ^C64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.032 ms ^C^C^C64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.032 ms ^C^C^C^C^C^C64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=0.034 ms ^C^C^C^C^C^C64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_req=5 ttl=64 time=0.032 ms ^Z This does NOT happen locally: from a console or terminal at the machine, I can interrupt just fine. Ctrl-Z does//work over ssh. Thanks, -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] SMB/CIFS or NFS?
On 04/20/2011 06:21 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Okay, I'm combining the portage distfiles dir into a storage server. Problem: the storage server is Windows 2003. Question: should I mount the distfile dir using SMB/CIFS or NFS? Is there any performance and/or complexity issues? Thanks in advance. Rgds, I have noticed better performance in straight copies from NFS on my Windows SBS 2003, but I have had some trouble getting UIDs to map correctly on the linux end. Admittedly, though, I haven't gone to a great deal of effort to map every Windows user to a UID. I haven't tested rsync, but cp did go much more quickly on the files I was looking at (few, 2GB files). -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] gvfs, cameras, and me
On 12/19/2010 09:55 PM, Dale wrote: Andy Wilkinson wrote: So, the only issue that I consistently have in Gentoo anymore is that there exist periods of time (probably coincident with gphoto2 or gvfs upgrades) wherein I can't automount my PTP digital camera (a Nikon D60, if it's relevant) and use gthumb to import my photos. I'm able to use gphoto2 to do so just fine, and so I do, but it bothers me that the way I'd prefer to do things doesn't work the way I'd like it to. Currently I'm in a doesn't work phase, as you may have surmised. To make matters worse, when gvfs/nautilus doesn't see the camera at all, I have no idea at all how to find out what messages might have been sent where, or why gvfs might not be seeing it, or what-have-you. None of the usual suspects (dmesg, /var/log/messages, ~/.xsession-errors) have anything useful. dmesg does at least tell me that I'm seeing the USB device properly. Is there a tried-and-true method of at least troubleshooting this sort of issue, or am I stuck throwing darts at the different gphoto2 and gvfs builds in portage? I've attached emerge --info gvfs gphoto2, for the curious. Thanks, -Andy Firstly, I don't use Gnome and our cameras are different. This may not matter for your setup but thought it worth checking into. I have this for my Canon in make.conf: CAMERAS=canon ptp2 I use the ptp2 and most likely need to remove the other but you may need to set yours to something that your camera uses. CAMERAS=ptp2 just may work. Usually a emerge -pv package will show the options available. It does here anyway. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) Alas, changing CAMERAS didn't work. But I'm not surprised, as gphoto2 has always found the camera just fine, regardless of what Gnome thinks. I suspect that my issue is closer to a libgphoto2/gvfs incompatibility, but I've no data on which to test that. I suppose I could just start compiling ~arch masked builds of libgphoto2 and see if any of them stick, but I would love some sort of cleaner answer. Thanks, -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gvfs, cameras, and me
On 12/20/2010 06:39 AM, walt wrote: On 12/19/2010 09:25 PM, Andy Wilkinson wrote: To make matters worse, when gvfs/nautilus doesn't see the camera at all, I have no idea at all how to find out what messages might have been sent where, or why gvfs might not be seeing it... I use gnome, but have no camera so I can't give specific advise. But in general I try to get behind the gui by starting an app (like gphoto2) from a command prompt to see what error messages it may print. Some gui apps may have an optional flag like -v or --debug that will print more messages. (Or start it as strace gphoto2 for even more fun.) I've never actually found a use for the various gvfs commandline apps, like gvfs-info et al, but you might be able to use them for debugging this puzzle. Worth fiddling with them, anyway. I've noticed several times that the gentoo-stable gnome is running mismatched versions of gnome apps, and if I just wait long enough the right version of something-or-other will be installed and something broken will start working again. The ~ version of gnome actually has fewer problems that way than the stable version. Running strace on gphoto2 doesn't make a lot of sense to me, as gphoto2 always works just fine. A trace on gthumb also doesn't make sense in my mind, since it seems to correctly be telling me that gvfs doesn't see anything more than it does, though I don't know enough to say for sure that there's no separation. If there was a way I could run a trace on gvfs itself, that might be more profitable, but that sounds big and scary, and like something I'd need help with. I've looked around at the gvfs-*, and most of them seem to want me to know what I want them to look at, and are mostly interested in telling me about literal paths. I haven't found a way to get any of them to say Hey, I see your camera, and it doesn't work because X. Your last paragraph rings truer to me. I just wish I had something concrete to go on. ;) Thanks, -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] gvfs, cameras, and me
On 12/20/2010 07:53 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.com wrote: So, the only issue that I consistently have in Gentoo anymore is that there exist periods of time (probably coincident with gphoto2 or gvfs upgrades) wherein I can't automount my PTP digital camera (a Nikon D60, if it's relevant) and use gthumb to import my photos. I'm able to use gphoto2 to do so just fine, and so I do, but it bothers me that the way I'd prefer to do things doesn't work the way I'd like it to. Currently I'm in a doesn't work phase, as you may have surmised. To make matters worse, when gvfs/nautilus doesn't see the camera at all, I have no idea at all how to find out what messages might have been sent where, or why gvfs might not be seeing it, or what-have-you. None of the usual suspects (dmesg, /var/log/messages, ~/.xsession-errors) have anything useful. dmesg does at least tell me that I'm seeing the USB device properly. Is there a tried-and-true method of at least troubleshooting this sort of issue, or am I stuck throwing darts at the different gphoto2 and gvfs builds in portage? Hi, Probably more important is libgphoto2 instead of gphoto2 standalone package. libgphoto2 includes the udev rules for digital cameras, for example. (You might need to change the default mode that they set.) Your user needs to be in the plugdev group, too. Does it work as root? If so then maybe it's a permission issue. I don't use any of the software you've mentioned except for gphoto2, so I'm not sure how they work but you can do the usual monitoring udev (using udevadm) and dbus (using dbus-monitor) etc. to see what's going on. Maybe there'll be some error or something will stand out as being obviously wrong. Well, udev shows the device appearing and disappearing just fine, when I turn the camera on and off, and as I've said in my other two responses just now, gphoto2 detects, reads, and downloads from the camera just fine. dbus shows no activity related to the camera whatsoever. I am in plugdev and gvfs works just fine, when it works. It's gone from working to not working and I'm not sure why. What should I run as root to tell if it works as root? Thanks, -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] gvfs, cameras, and me
On 12/24/2010 07:34 AM, Andy Wilkinson wrote: On 12/19/2010 09:55 PM, Dale wrote: Andy Wilkinson wrote: So, the only issue that I consistently have in Gentoo anymore is that there exist periods of time (probably coincident with gphoto2 or gvfs upgrades) wherein I can't automount my PTP digital camera (a Nikon D60, if it's relevant) and use gthumb to import my photos. I'm able to use gphoto2 to do so just fine, and so I do, but it bothers me that the way I'd prefer to do things doesn't work the way I'd like it to. Currently I'm in a doesn't work phase, as you may have surmised. To make matters worse, when gvfs/nautilus doesn't see the camera at all, I have no idea at all how to find out what messages might have been sent where, or why gvfs might not be seeing it, or what-have-you. None of the usual suspects (dmesg, /var/log/messages, ~/.xsession-errors) have anything useful. dmesg does at least tell me that I'm seeing the USB device properly. Is there a tried-and-true method of at least troubleshooting this sort of issue, or am I stuck throwing darts at the different gphoto2 and gvfs builds in portage? I've attached emerge --info gvfs gphoto2, for the curious. Thanks, -Andy Firstly, I don't use Gnome and our cameras are different. This may not matter for your setup but thought it worth checking into. I have this for my Canon in make.conf: CAMERAS=canon ptp2 I use the ptp2 and most likely need to remove the other but you may need to set yours to something that your camera uses. CAMERAS=ptp2 just may work. Usually a emerge -pv package will show the options available. It does here anyway. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) Alas, changing CAMERAS didn't work. But I'm not surprised, as gphoto2 has always found the camera just fine, regardless of what Gnome thinks. I suspect that my issue is closer to a libgphoto2/gvfs incompatibility, but I've no data on which to test that. I suppose I could just start compiling ~arch masked builds of libgphoto2 and see if any of them stick, but I would love some sort of cleaner answer. Thanks, -Andy OK, so I decided to try around with different combinations, and it turns out I actually was running a ~arch version of libgphoto2 (I had unmasked 2.4* for compatibility with gthumb-2.12, iirc). Downgrading from libgphoto2-2.4.10 to -2.4.9 fixed things. Why? :) Thanks, -Andy
[gentoo-user] gvfs, cameras, and me
So, the only issue that I consistently have in Gentoo anymore is that there exist periods of time (probably coincident with gphoto2 or gvfs upgrades) wherein I can't automount my PTP digital camera (a Nikon D60, if it's relevant) and use gthumb to import my photos. I'm able to use gphoto2 to do so just fine, and so I do, but it bothers me that the way I'd prefer to do things doesn't work the way I'd like it to. Currently I'm in a doesn't work phase, as you may have surmised. To make matters worse, when gvfs/nautilus doesn't see the camera at all, I have no idea at all how to find out what messages might have been sent where, or why gvfs might not be seeing it, or what-have-you. None of the usual suspects (dmesg, /var/log/messages, ~/.xsession-errors) have anything useful. dmesg does at least tell me that I'm seeing the USB device properly. Is there a tried-and-true method of at least troubleshooting this sort of issue, or am I stuck throwing darts at the different gphoto2 and gvfs builds in portage? I've attached emerge --info gvfs gphoto2, for the curious. Thanks, -Andy Portage 2.1.9.24 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.4, glibc-2.11.2-r3, 2.6.34-gentoo-r12 x86_64) = System Settings = System uname: Linux-2.6.34-gentoo-r12-x86_64-AMD_Phenom-tm-_II_X4_945_Processor-with-gentoo-1.12.14 Timestamp of tree: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:30:23 + ccache version 2.4 [enabled] app-shells/bash: 4.1_p7 dev-java/java-config: 2.1.11-r1 dev-lang/python: 2.6.5-r3, 3.1.2-r4 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7 dev-util/cmake: 2.8.1-r2 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.14-r1 sys-apps/sandbox:2.4 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.65-r1 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6-r1, 1.8.5-r4, 1.9.6-r3, 1.10.3, 1.11.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.20.1-r1 sys-devel/gcc: 4.4.4-r2 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1 sys-devel/libtool: 2.2.10 sys-devel/make: 3.81-r2 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.30-r1 (sys-kernel/linux-headers) ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 ACCEPT_LICENSE=* -...@eula dlj-1.1 PUEL skype-eula googleearth AdobeFlash-10.1 CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=amdfam10 -O2 -pipe -msse4a -m3dnow CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/splash /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c CXXFLAGS=-march=amdfam10 -O2 -pipe -msse4a -m3dnow DISTDIR=/var/portage/distfiles EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs=4 --load-average=9 --keep-going FEATURES=assume-digests binpkg-logs ccache distlocks fixlafiles fixpackages news parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org; LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed LINGUAS=en_US en MAKEOPTS=-j6 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/ PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/var/lib/layman/gamerlay /usr/local/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acl acpi alsa amd64 berkdb branding bzip2 cairo cdr cleartype cli consolekit corefonts cracklib crypt cups cxx dbus dri dts dvd dvdr emboss encode exif fam firefox flac fortran gdbm gdu gif gnome gpm gtk iconv jpeg lcms ldap libnotify lock mad mikmod mmx mmxext mng modules mp3 mp4 mpeg mudflap multilib ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opencl opengl openmp pam pango pcre pdf perl png policykit ppds pppd python qt3support qt4 readline sdl session spell sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssl startup-notification svg sysfs tcpd threads thunar tiff truetype type1 unicode usb vorbis x264 xcb xinerama xml xorg xulrunner xv xvid zeroconf zlib ALSA_CARDS=emu10k1 ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias COLLECTD_PLUGINS=df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog ELIBC=glibc GPSD_PROTOCOLS=ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf superstar2 timing
Re: [gentoo-user] i486
On 11/22/2010 01:02 PM, James wrote: Hello, I want to set up a AMD AthlonXP on Compact Flash, just like I do my old pentium i586 systems. I'd really like to be able to move 4G Cf cards (set up generically) between old pentium, k6, i586, p4 and AthlonXP systems. (that's the goal not performance, optimized for small binaries). OK, so I'm using ext2 on a 4 G CF. I want a universal /etc/make.conf file that will work on old hardware all the way up to a p4 (32bit) system, and on AMD (AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2400+) So take and look and tell me what I should change and why. OK? MARCH =??? CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-Os -march=??? -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} PORTAGE_NICENESS=1 MAKEOPTS=-j2 USE=-* -nls mmx ncurses ssl crypt berkdb tcpd pam perl pcre \ python readline zlib bzip2 nptl nptlonly syslog Any suggestions on flags are most welcome! Ideas are most welcome! James If this is one drive to run on all of them, -march=pentium -mmmx (if all of your CPUs have mmx) will probably work. If the oldest stuff you've got is p4, athlon-xp era, you might be able to get a bit newer... but you'd need to compare the literal flags turned on by something like -march=pentium3 and -march=athlon-xp (you can't use pentium4 because it includes SSE2 which Athlon XP doesn't necessarily support). You can check what flags gcc picks with: echo | gcc -dM -E - -march=$MARCH It's not super straightforward to look at, but it's the only way my googling has found to actually show all of the flags turned on by an -march or -mtune option. -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] Freemind - big can of worms
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:18:01 +0200 Dirk Uys dirkc...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone please suggest a mindmap application on gentoo that doesn't rely on the same enterprise technology my bank is using? I've been using XMind. http://www.xmind.net/ It's not in portage, but I've found the portable version to work well on my gentoo box.
[gentoo-user] Which Comes First, the Unmask or the Mask?
I believe I know the answer to the question... the real question is, how can I work around it? ;) I am running the development branch of www-client/chromium (currently 8.0.552.0). As a result, I like the latest builds to always be unmasked when they are available. However, once in a while there is a bad apple in the bunch and I'd like to mask that atom specifically. 8.0.552.0 is one of those that I would like masked. What I'd like to do is: /etc/portage/package.unmask: www-client/chromium /etc/portage/package.mask: =www-client/chromium-8.0.552.0 This case shows that, in fact, the mask comes first, as the atom in question is definitely unmasked in that scenario. I have tried putting either line into /etc/portage/profile/package.mask or .unmask, to no effect. I know I could do this by putting noninclusive comparative statements in .unmask, ala: www-client/chromium-8.0.552.0 www-client/chromium-8.0.552.0 But this seems somewhat clumsy to me. Does anyone know a trick to do what I'm looking for? Thanks, -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] =www-client/chromium-6.0.472.33 and h264
On 08/17/2010 04:54 AM, Nganon wrote: On 17 August 2010 04:26, Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.com mailto:drukar...@gmail.com wrote: I've noticed that ebuilds of chromium at and later than 6.0.472.33 no longer use the system-provided ffmpeg, and seem to lose support for h264 videos (test any non-webm, html5 video at youtube; it will never load). I've tried doctoring the ebuild to use the system-provided ffmpeg, which does not fix h264 video and causes crashes on webm videos: probably why we went back to the bundled ffmpeg. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a straightforward work-around beyond going back to 6.0.472.14ish? Thanks, -Andy Using system-ffmpeg is commented as TODO in the ebuild refering to [1]. There is also bug report[2] related to this. Seems like it maybe fixed in a never branch than 472. [1] http://crbug.com/50678 [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329641 Thanks for the info. That doesn't entirely answer my question, though... shouldn't chromium's bundled ffmpeg have h264 support? Google's youtube.com/html5 page suggests that Chrome (and thus chromium?) supports h264. Is this a licensing issue going to the open source build that I've not heard of yet? Thanks again, -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] =www-client/chromium-6.0.472.33 and h264
On 08/17/2010 10:58 AM, Nganon wrote: On 17 August 2010 19:49, Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.com mailto:drukar...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the info. That doesn't entirely answer my question, though... shouldn't chromium's bundled ffmpeg have h264 support? Google's youtube.com/html5 http://youtube.com/html5 page suggests that Chrome (and thus chromium?) supports h264. Is this a licensing issue going to the open source build that I've not heard of yet? Yes bundled ffmpeg should have h264 support but I think it as broken with a patch for ubuntu. Did you read the bug report on crbug? It is reported for 479 and marked as *fixed* in the trunk as of Aug 9th. I didnt read the release note of it but 490 was released on 13th and is in portage since then. So..you can either unmask it and give it a try or wait for the next release and keep an eye on the release notes. I have tried 490, and it has the same problem: html5test.com reports no h264 support, and non-webm, html5 youtube videos don't work. I'll continue trying successive builds as they're posted... maybe 490 doesn't have that commit yet? -Andy
[gentoo-user] =www-client/chromium-6.0.472.33 and h264
I've noticed that ebuilds of chromium at and later than 6.0.472.33 no longer use the system-provided ffmpeg, and seem to lose support for h264 videos (test any non-webm, html5 video at youtube; it will never load). I've tried doctoring the ebuild to use the system-provided ffmpeg, which does not fix h264 video and causes crashes on webm videos: probably why we went back to the bundled ffmpeg. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a straightforward work-around beyond going back to 6.0.472.14ish? Thanks, -Andy
[gentoo-user] Unicode Fonts in xfce4-terminal
Hi all, I have been fiddling on and off for a few months now trying to get Unicode font display in Terminal, which per the Gentoo Unicode docs as well as its own, supports UTF-8 character sets. However, special characters are not displayed. The font in use is DejaVu Sans Mono, which ought to support simple accented characters and other Unicode glyphs. The results of `locale` are as follows: t...@saya ~ $ locale LANG=en_US.utf8 LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf8 LC_TIME=en_US.utf8 LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY=en_US.utf8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.utf8 LC_PAPER=en_US.utf8 LC_NAME=en_US.utf8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.utf8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.utf8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.utf8 LC_ALL= Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Thanks! -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] Unicode Fonts in xfce4-terminal
On 07/12/2010 12:09 PM, Bill Longman wrote: On 07/12/2010 11:51 AM, Andy Wilkinson wrote: Hi all, I have been fiddling on and off for a few months now trying to get Unicode font display in Terminal, which per the Gentoo Unicode docs as well as its own, supports UTF-8 character sets. However, special characters are not displayed. The font in use is DejaVu Sans Mono, which ought to support simple accented characters and other Unicode glyphs. The results of `locale` are as follows: t...@saya ~ $ locale LANG=en_US.utf8 LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf8 LC_TIME=en_US.utf8 LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY=en_US.utf8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.utf8 LC_PAPER=en_US.utf8 LC_NAME=en_US.utf8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.utf8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.utf8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.utf8 LC_ALL= Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Thanks! Try en_US.UTF-8 instead. That did it. Thanks! I am confused, though. Why am I setting LANG, etc, to en_US.UTF-8 when locale -a says en_US.utf8? For now I am happy that it works. Thanks again. -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - UVESAFB setup not working
On 07/05/10 15:46, Jake Moe wrote: I've recently installed a new system, and can't seem to get UVESAFB working properly. I've set up everything in the kernel, and modified GRUB's menu.lst to use the framebuffer. However, even though there doesn't seem to be any errors, I can't seem to get anything other than default resolution with far too large fonts. I've compared dmesg info, GRUB configs and kernel configs between this laptop, and another laptop that has UVESAFB running fine, and am at a loss to find what's wrong. The laptop in question is a HP EliteBook 8440p with an nVidia graphics chip. Relevant info that I can think of: -* lspci *- snip -* dmesg | grep uvesafb *- Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda4 video=uvesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap,1600x900 uvesafb: NVIDIA Corporation, NVIDIA Quadro NVS 170M uvesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:c2d0 uvesafb: pmi: set display start = c00cc333, set palette = c00cc38e uvesafb: pmi: ports = 3b4 3b5 3ba 3c0 3c1 3c4 3c5 3c6 3c7 3c8 3c9 3cc 3ce 3cf 3d0 3d1 3d2 3d3 3d4 3d5 3da uvesafb: VBIOS/hardware doesn't support DDC transfers uvesafb: no monitor limits have been set, default refresh rate will be used uvesafb: scrolling: ywrap using protected mode interface, yres_virtual=7200 uvesafb: framebuffer at 0xd100, mapped to 0xf808, using 11250k, total 14336k -* /sys/devices/platform/uvesafb.0/graphics/fb0/modes *- U:1600x900p-59 snip U:1600x900p-59 snip I've also attached my kernel .config file for reference. If you need anything further, please let me know. I'm sure I've overlooked something obvious here; usually getting the framebuffer set up isn't this hard; but for some reason, I can't figure this one out. While this isn't a big deal, since usually the first thing I do after login is startx, it's an annoyance that I'd like cleared up; it *should* work, dammit! :-P Jake Moe This may be a bit of a long shot, but: according to the modes file you included, your monitor only actually supports 1600x900 at 59 Hz. Since you aren't specifying a refresh, uvesafb says in dmesg that it is using a default refresh. My guess is that means 60, rather than some smart value. Does anything different happen if you specify the full mode, e.g. 1600x900...@59? I'm afraid if that doesn't help I'm not likely to be much good myself. But I thought seeing that 59 there was odd, and figure it might be worth a look. -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] Minimal Gentoo with X
On 06/30/10 06:48, Shoka wrote: Hello group, I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All I need is - X11 and a Window Manager - Mozilla Firefox - Lighttpd I use Gnome at this time. du reports the following directories as the biggest directories on my system: /usr/lib418 MB /usr/portage 1200 MB /usr/share 550 MB /usr/src560 MB (Kernel Sources) The other directories are very small. I think, the system is quite heavy in size, isn't it? I really would like to be able to shrink it down but not loosing functionality. Now I'm looking for tips to reduce disk consumption further. I've already cleaned /usr/portage/distfiles. I read that removing the whole /usr/portage after setting up the system is not a good idea. Is that true? May be someone could recommend a better window manager (smaller in size, stable)? I really appreciate any kind of recommendation to this topic. Kind regards, André If you're looking to save size in /usr/portage, you might consider squashing it ( http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Squashed_Portage_Tree). Portage is a few hundred thousand files IIRC and most filesystems don't cope with that very well. My portage sqfs is one file about 47 MB. This has the side effect of making portage lookups a lot faster, as well, since it's all kept in RAM. It's a bit of work, and adds complexity to kernel upgrades, but it's been worthwhile for me. Also, Gnome is not a particularly minimal or light desktop environment.In fact, quite the opposite. You could probably save a lot of space by switching to xfce or lxde or something like that, if you don't need all of the fluff in Gnome. There's also a gnome-light meta that cuts out some of the extras, if you want to keep the Gnome look-and-feel. I'm using xfce after a long time with Gnome and didn't find the transition difficult at all. I did wind up compiling a few of my gnome-specific tools (banshee, gthumb in particular) which brought in some gnome libraries, but the gnome meta still offers to pull in about a hundred new packages. -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] Sylpheed Claws 2.0.0 IMAP
Am Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:30:08 -0700 schrieb Adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I tried making a new IMAP account for my one IMAP email address and when I hit OK I got the message can not create folder. I solved that problem by adding imap into my /etc/make.conf use-flags Viele Gruesse / Best regards Andy Stern Mittwoch den 22.März 2006 TELEKOM-Mitarbeiter, die keine TELEKOM-Aktien kaufen, sollten wegen Verwendung von Insider-Wissen bestraft werden. (Azkin Kaden) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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[gentoo-user] x86-setup
http://www.trustop.org/gensetup/ gzip-problem fixed :-) what do you think about it, any resonances? ./greetings Registered Linux User #404755 with Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 web: www.trustop.org kontakt: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ClamAntiVirus: vers. 0.87.1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] x86 setup-script
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:06:44 -0500 Danyelle Gragsone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think there are running files that you dont need without a net-device, try to find these processes/services with ps -aux and rc-update -s and stop/kill them greets to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies. On 11/28/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] tracking ebuilds
I want to be able track the apache and subversion ebuilds. Bugs with different versions, why one version is not used over another... Is there a mailing list where this information is discussed. I found portage-dev but is seems specifically for development of portage and not necessarily where package maintainers discuss issues. I am probably missing something obvious but I would be greatful for any clues. Thanks. -- Andy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Adobe Photoshop 7.0 On Wine Users.
I installed Adobe photoshop using wine on an account called andy. I know wine doesn't work well when used in root but I usually only use root so I was wondering if there is a way to open my Photoshop 7.0 using root with Wine. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Photoshop 7.0 On Wine Users.
Florian Idelberger wrote: Normally it should be quite possible to just su into root in a terminal and then start all the gui programs you want from there as root. And if you're concerned about security in som way you really should do so. Just a recommendation. On Apr 12, 2005 9:27 AM, *Andy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aractor wrote: Why would you usually only use root? Just use the Andy account and SU if you ever need something under the root account... On Apr 12, 2005 12:05 AM, *Andy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed Adobe photoshop using wine on an account called andy. I know wine doesn't work well when used in root but I usually only use root so I was wondering if there is a way to open my Photoshop 7.0 using root with Wine. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Mainly because Its all setup now And Im a newbie at gentoo and I like to use the GUI to do my root stuff not terminal -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list So Ill assume what I am askign for is not possible? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Photoshop 7.0 On Wine Users.
Charles Pittman wrote: On Apr 12, 2005 6:58 AM, *Andy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Florian Idelberger wrote: Normally it should be quite possible to just su into root in a terminal and then start all the gui programs you want from there as root. And if you're concerned about security in som way you really should do so. Just a recommendation. On Apr 12, 2005 9:27 AM, *Andy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aractor wrote: Why would you usually only use root? Just use the Andy account and SU if you ever need something under the root account... On Apr 12, 2005 12:05 AM, *Andy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed Adobe photoshop using wine on an account called andy. I know wine doesn't work well when used in root but I usually only use root so I was wondering if there is a way to open my Photoshop 7.0 using root with Wine. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Mainly because Its all setup now And Im a newbie at gentoo and I like to use the GUI to do my root stuff not terminal -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list So Ill assume what I am askign for is not possible? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list What you are asking for is possible doing what Florian suggested... just not recommended because you're more likely to completely hose your entire system (as opposed to just one portion of it.) technicly shouldn't it work if I SUed into andy and ran it? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list