Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
On Sunday 13 May 2012 16:29:53 ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 08:32:38PM +0100, Mick wrote: > > On Saturday 12 May 2012 17:42:34 ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I hope not. HTML5 runs like crap here. I think it may need a faster dl > > > speed than I've got. If everything does migrate I might have to upgrade > > > my internet speed. > > > > Have you tried increasing the cache on your video player that html5 uses? > > I don't have a video player on my system. I don't know what it's using, > then. I wonder if I can increase the cache someway > > Terry You could use lsof to see what plugin or video player is called. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 08:32:38PM +0100, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 12 May 2012 17:42:34 ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I hope not. HTML5 runs like crap here. I think it may need a faster dl > > speed than I've got. If everything does migrate I might have to upgrade my > > internet speed. > > Have you tried increasing the cache on your video player that html5 uses? > > -- > Regards, > Mick I don't have a video player on my system. I don't know what it's using, then. I wonder if I can increase the cache someway Terry pgp5MDZaK0Qu9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10.05.2012 13:47, Dale wrote: >> Hi, >> >> There was a thread a while back that talked about flash. Well, I >> let mine upgrade and now it crashes, badly. I unmerged adobe-flash >> then tried lightspark and gnash. Neither of those work on sites I >> tried, which is sites I go to a good bit. >> >> Since Adobe is dropping Linux flash, that's what I read anyway, >> what is everyone using for flash now? >> >> Things I tried so far: >> >> www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.3.183.18 >> www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.233 >> www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 gnash-0.8.10-r2 >> lightspark-0.5.6 >> >> The version that worked last is: >> >> www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.1.102.55 >> >> It's no longer in the tree of course. < sighs > >> >> Ideas? >> >> Dale >> >> P. S. I'm working on a overlay. Any guesses on how well this is >> working out. lol >> > You should be able to install an old version via a custom overlay. The > ebuild should be here: > > http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-plugins/adobe-flash/adobe-flash-11.1.102.55.ebuild?hideattic=0&view=log > > I would warn you to use it with caution since flash has a long history > of vulnerabilities and normally it should be one of the last packages > to keep a version from the stoneage (for flash it translates to "older > that 2-26 weeks", normally). > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPr6WeAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYce4sIAMDsHdMGOPL7rgchZDLLlrQ8 > gTir67fawcPWZAwSc+0gN4wBBximmXYqdWyoZhGt8FJT70TDxy8hKR4leojkAS6k > MtA87A7zCAW3AiW/sP+WeLt6wpjf+4lD3+iFwAclLGfvSg+4llNV0n08QaD3dCRL > DSbQF1nUHw7uWsRa+YWFGbU8/v5TO5SsF+LGV7lx9henf3hWOKfpAGGvGqWIUsVm > 1N6sj+09bLYdl9pfjYM+0OEiVUTih/eR9k2blhk3Gi5o4+p2d4DzRziV5n+DwD+r > 1r0gwK//gf+EF5CnXvcjSztgw3pE2QWPTPJvmVPdf27jWdX2YIWo3FeWckl5aOI= > =GSok > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > I tried to do the overlay thing. It hated me so it kept spitting out errors about one thing or the other. I used the rm command to correct the overlay issue. ;-) I did get the current version to work tho. It was just my old eyes missing a USE flag change. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10.05.2012 13:47, Dale wrote: > Hi, > > There was a thread a while back that talked about flash. Well, I > let mine upgrade and now it crashes, badly. I unmerged adobe-flash > then tried lightspark and gnash. Neither of those work on sites I > tried, which is sites I go to a good bit. > > Since Adobe is dropping Linux flash, that's what I read anyway, > what is everyone using for flash now? > > Things I tried so far: > > www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.3.183.18 > www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.233 > www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 gnash-0.8.10-r2 > lightspark-0.5.6 > > The version that worked last is: > > www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.1.102.55 > > It's no longer in the tree of course. < sighs > > > Ideas? > > Dale > > P. S. I'm working on a overlay. Any guesses on how well this is > working out. lol > You should be able to install an old version via a custom overlay. The ebuild should be here: http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-plugins/adobe-flash/adobe-flash-11.1.102.55.ebuild?hideattic=0&view=log I would warn you to use it with caution since flash has a long history of vulnerabilities and normally it should be one of the last packages to keep a version from the stoneage (for flash it translates to "older that 2-26 weeks", normally). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPr6WeAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYce4sIAMDsHdMGOPL7rgchZDLLlrQ8 gTir67fawcPWZAwSc+0gN4wBBximmXYqdWyoZhGt8FJT70TDxy8hKR4leojkAS6k MtA87A7zCAW3AiW/sP+WeLt6wpjf+4lD3+iFwAclLGfvSg+4llNV0n08QaD3dCRL DSbQF1nUHw7uWsRa+YWFGbU8/v5TO5SsF+LGV7lx9henf3hWOKfpAGGvGqWIUsVm 1N6sj+09bLYdl9pfjYM+0OEiVUTih/eR9k2blhk3Gi5o4+p2d4DzRziV5n+DwD+r 1r0gwK//gf+EF5CnXvcjSztgw3pE2QWPTPJvmVPdf27jWdX2YIWo3FeWckl5aOI= =GSok -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 08:07:54AM +0100, Mick wrote: >> On Thursday 10 May 2012 12:47:51 Dale wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> There was a thread a while back that talked about flash. Well, I let >>> mine upgrade and now it crashes, badly. I unmerged adobe-flash then >>> tried lightspark and gnash. Neither of those work on sites I tried, >>> which is sites I go to a good bit. >>> >>> Since Adobe is dropping Linux flash, that's what I read anyway, what is >>> everyone using for flash now? >>> >>> Things I tried so far: >>> >>> www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.3.183.18 >>> www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.233 >>> www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 >>> gnash-0.8.10-r2 >>> lightspark-0.5.6 >>> >>> The version that worked last is: >>> >>> www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.1.102.55 >>> >>> It's no longer in the tree of course. < sighs > >>> >>> Ideas? >> >> The latest stable www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 includes the >> sse2check >> flag and warnings about it - I take it that you have taken hid of these? >> >> $ euse -i sse2check >> global use flags (searching: sse2check) >> >> no matching entries found >> >> local use flags (searching: sse2check) >> >> [- ] sse2check >> www-plugins/adobe-flash: This flag, enabled by default, will check >> for sse2 support on your cpu and die if not found. If you are >> remote-building this package, you can disable this flag but you have >> been warned >> 10.3.183.18 [gentoo] >> [+ B] 11.2.202.228 [gentoo] >> [+ B] 11.2.202.233 [gentoo] >> [+ B] 11.2.202.235 [gentoo] >> -- >> Regards, >> Mick > > > I usu just dl the linux flash glob from the Adobe site and put it in > .mozilla/.../plugins. > > Terry But if you do that, portage won't update it or anything else outside portage. I VERY rarely install anything outside of portage. Right now, I have nothing installed on my system that is not taken care of by portage. I keep it that way to make sure everything is updated and bugs/fixes are taken care of even I forget. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
On Saturday 12 May 2012 17:42:34 ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > I hope not. HTML5 runs like crap here. I think it may need a faster dl > speed than I've got. If everything does migrate I might have to upgrade my > internet speed. Have you tried increasing the cache on your video player that html5 uses? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 08:17:04PM -0500, Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > > The latest stable www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 includes the > > sse2check > > flag and warnings about it - I take it that you have taken hid of these? > > > > $ euse -i sse2check > > global use flags (searching: sse2check) > > > > no matching entries found > > > > local use flags (searching: sse2check) > > > > [- ] sse2check > > www-plugins/adobe-flash: This flag, enabled by default, will check > > for sse2 support on your cpu and die if not found. If you are > > remote-building this package, you can disable this flag but you have > > been warned > > 10.3.183.18 [gentoo] > > [+ B] 11.2.202.228 [gentoo] > > [+ B] 11.2.202.233 [gentoo] > > [+ B] 11.2.202.235 [gentoo] > > > I checked on this when it was mentioned, I guess in the other thread. > It appears it got changed when I did my upgrade. At least it doesn't > crash now. It was enabled tho so I fixed that. > > New problem tho. I have Seamonkey's web browser on desktop 1. The > email is on desktop 2. My local radar from NOAA uses flash. When I > load it, I can see the image from flash on both desktop 1 and 2. > Everything else is updated except the flash part. If I switch a couple > times, it gets really weird looking. Looks like someone slipped LSD in > my drink or something. Just weird colors and such. > > What's up with that? I'm going to try rebuilding a couple things to > make sure everything is in sync. Maybe that will fix it. > > While I am at it. Is HTML5 going to replace flash? I don't mean in the > next week but over a period of time. While researching this, I ran > across posts that suggest HTML5 will render flash outdated. Just curious. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > -- > I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or > how you interpreted my words! > > Miss the compile output? Hint: > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n" > I hope not. HTML5 runs like crap here. I think it may need a faster dl speed than I've got. If everything does migrate I might have to upgrade my internet speed. Terry pgpFz0j9q6X28.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 08:07:54AM +0100, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 10 May 2012 12:47:51 Dale wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There was a thread a while back that talked about flash. Well, I let > > mine upgrade and now it crashes, badly. I unmerged adobe-flash then > > tried lightspark and gnash. Neither of those work on sites I tried, > > which is sites I go to a good bit. > > > > Since Adobe is dropping Linux flash, that's what I read anyway, what is > > everyone using for flash now? > > > > Things I tried so far: > > > > www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.3.183.18 > > www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.233 > > www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 > > gnash-0.8.10-r2 > > lightspark-0.5.6 > > > > The version that worked last is: > > > > www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.1.102.55 > > > > It's no longer in the tree of course. < sighs > > > > > Ideas? > > The latest stable www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 includes the sse2check > flag and warnings about it - I take it that you have taken hid of these? > > $ euse -i sse2check > global use flags (searching: sse2check) > > no matching entries found > > local use flags (searching: sse2check) > > [- ] sse2check > www-plugins/adobe-flash: This flag, enabled by default, will check > for sse2 support on your cpu and die if not found. If you are > remote-building this package, you can disable this flag but you have > been warned > 10.3.183.18 [gentoo] > [+ B] 11.2.202.228 [gentoo] > [+ B] 11.2.202.233 [gentoo] > [+ B] 11.2.202.235 [gentoo] > -- > Regards, > Mick I usu just dl the linux flash glob from the Adobe site and put it in .mozilla/.../plugins. Terry pgpRBKc06LPzL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
Mick wrote: > If you speak to adobe, they'll say no. > > If you speak to apple they'll say yes. > > Mobile devices have mostly moved away from flash. Youtube already serves > html5 videos, if only as a trial: > > http://www.youtube.com/html5 > > Unless flash provides something that html5 or other code (e.g. JavaScript, > CSS, etc.) can't, I think flash is on its slow way out. That's the way I understood the articles I was reading as well. I seems HTML5 is fairly powerful and rich in features. Read that as, you can watch videos, show gif, jpegs and such and have other animated thingys. I would also add, I bet it is going to be more secure too. From what I have read on this list and the notices I get from the US Government alerts, Adobe Flash is about the most insecure thing there is. The only thing that may beat it is windoze 95. ROFL I read about Youtube and it's testing. I have not tried it on a permanent basis but I did do a one session test a while back. I couldn't SEE any difference. I think that is a good thing myself. I'm not sure what all changes there was tho. It may not make enough of a difference for me to notice, yet. Here's to hoping HTML5 gets rid of flash, sooner the better. Thanks for the info and the fix. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
On Saturday 12 May 2012 02:17:04 Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > The latest stable www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 includes the > > sse2check flag and warnings about it - I take it that you have taken hid > > of these? > > > > $ euse -i sse2check > > global use flags (searching: sse2check) > > > > no matching entries found > > > > local use flags (searching: sse2check) > > > > [- ] sse2check > > > > www-plugins/adobe-flash: This flag, enabled by default, will check > > for sse2 support on your cpu and die if not found. If you are > > remote-building this package, you can disable this flag but you have > > been warned > > > > 10.3.183.18 [gentoo] > > > > [+ B] 11.2.202.228 [gentoo] > > [+ B] 11.2.202.233 [gentoo] > > [+ B] 11.2.202.235 [gentoo] > > I checked on this when it was mentioned, I guess in the other thread. > It appears it got changed when I did my upgrade. At least it doesn't > crash now. It was enabled tho so I fixed that. > > New problem tho. I have Seamonkey's web browser on desktop 1. The > email is on desktop 2. My local radar from NOAA uses flash. When I > load it, I can see the image from flash on both desktop 1 and 2. > Everything else is updated except the flash part. If I switch a couple > times, it gets really weird looking. Looks like someone slipped LSD in > my drink or something. Just weird colors and such. > > What's up with that? I'm going to try rebuilding a couple things to > make sure everything is in sync. Maybe that will fix it. > > While I am at it. Is HTML5 going to replace flash? I don't mean in the > next week but over a period of time. While researching this, I ran > across posts that suggest HTML5 will render flash outdated. Just curious. If you speak to adobe, they'll say no. If you speak to apple they'll say yes. Mobile devices have mostly moved away from flash. Youtube already serves html5 videos, if only as a trial: http://www.youtube.com/html5 Unless flash provides something that html5 or other code (e.g. JavaScript, CSS, etc.) can't, I think flash is on its slow way out. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
Mick wrote: > The latest stable www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 includes the sse2check > flag and warnings about it - I take it that you have taken hid of these? > > $ euse -i sse2check > global use flags (searching: sse2check) > > no matching entries found > > local use flags (searching: sse2check) > > [- ] sse2check > www-plugins/adobe-flash: This flag, enabled by default, will check > for sse2 support on your cpu and die if not found. If you are > remote-building this package, you can disable this flag but you have > been warned > 10.3.183.18 [gentoo] > [+ B] 11.2.202.228 [gentoo] > [+ B] 11.2.202.233 [gentoo] > [+ B] 11.2.202.235 [gentoo] I checked on this when it was mentioned, I guess in the other thread. It appears it got changed when I did my upgrade. At least it doesn't crash now. It was enabled tho so I fixed that. New problem tho. I have Seamonkey's web browser on desktop 1. The email is on desktop 2. My local radar from NOAA uses flash. When I load it, I can see the image from flash on both desktop 1 and 2. Everything else is updated except the flash part. If I switch a couple times, it gets really weird looking. Looks like someone slipped LSD in my drink or something. Just weird colors and such. What's up with that? I'm going to try rebuilding a couple things to make sure everything is in sync. Maybe that will fix it. While I am at it. Is HTML5 going to replace flash? I don't mean in the next week but over a period of time. While researching this, I ran across posts that suggest HTML5 will render flash outdated. Just curious. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
On Thursday 10 May 2012 12:47:51 Dale wrote: > Hi, > > There was a thread a while back that talked about flash. Well, I let > mine upgrade and now it crashes, badly. I unmerged adobe-flash then > tried lightspark and gnash. Neither of those work on sites I tried, > which is sites I go to a good bit. > > Since Adobe is dropping Linux flash, that's what I read anyway, what is > everyone using for flash now? > > Things I tried so far: > > www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.3.183.18 > www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.233 > www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 > gnash-0.8.10-r2 > lightspark-0.5.6 > > The version that worked last is: > > www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.1.102.55 > > It's no longer in the tree of course. < sighs > > > Ideas? The latest stable www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 includes the sse2check flag and warnings about it - I take it that you have taken hid of these? $ euse -i sse2check global use flags (searching: sse2check) no matching entries found local use flags (searching: sse2check) [- ] sse2check www-plugins/adobe-flash: This flag, enabled by default, will check for sse2 support on your cpu and die if not found. If you are remote-building this package, you can disable this flag but you have been warned 10.3.183.18 [gentoo] [+ B] 11.2.202.228 [gentoo] [+ B] 11.2.202.233 [gentoo] [+ B] 11.2.202.235 [gentoo] -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] What to use for Flash?
Hi, There was a thread a while back that talked about flash. Well, I let mine upgrade and now it crashes, badly. I unmerged adobe-flash then tried lightspark and gnash. Neither of those work on sites I tried, which is sites I go to a good bit. Since Adobe is dropping Linux flash, that's what I read anyway, what is everyone using for flash now? Things I tried so far: www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.3.183.18 www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.233 www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235 gnash-0.8.10-r2 lightspark-0.5.6 The version that worked last is: www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.1.102.55 It's no longer in the tree of course. < sighs > Ideas? Dale P. S. I'm working on a overlay. Any guesses on how well this is working out. lol -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
