[gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On 05/10/2012 07:20 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: > Hi all, > > after downloading the 3.2.12-sources everything went fine > for a couple of weeks, I compiled them a couple of times, > but suddenly, maybe because of some world-updates, errors > started to accumulate, Yes, sounds like something is wrong with your build environment. Have you run revdep-rebuild lately? What about etc-update or something equivalent to it? Very unlikely suspects but very easy to rule out: Correct /usr/src/linux symlink? Recent fsck? Hm, what else?
[gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On 05/10/2012 07:20 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: > LD init/mounts.o > ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o > init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory Maybe that step is correct but it sure looks strange to me. Looks like 'ls' is being substituted for 'ld', maybe? Is that a cut-and- paste error?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
Yes, all of those. Other ebuilds run without troubles. That's what makes this failed kernel build all the more mysterious. I've run out of options. Maybe a new kernel release will help, but I need my box and the tweaks to .config, and I don't want to wait, especially as I fear things might not go better even then. regards michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - From: "walt" To: Sent: Saturday, 12 May, 2012 00:48 Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails On 05/10/2012 07:20 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: Hi all, after downloading the 3.2.12-sources everything went fine for a couple of weeks, I compiled them a couple of times, but suddenly, maybe because of some world-updates, errors started to accumulate, Yes, sounds like something is wrong with your build environment. Have you run revdep-rebuild lately? What about etc-update or something equivalent to it? Very unlikely suspects but very easy to rule out: Correct /usr/src/linux symlink? Recent fsck? Hm, what else?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
regrettably no. at this point make (correctly) assumes that mounts.o should have been built, but it didn't. sorry for my delayed replay, I've tried I lot of possibilities, needless to say without success. thanks michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - From: "walt" To: Sent: Saturday, 12 May, 2012 20:17 Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails On 05/10/2012 07:20 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: LD init/mounts.o ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory Maybe that step is correct but it sure looks strange to me. Looks like 'ls' is being substituted for 'ld', maybe? Is that a cut-and- paste error?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:44:31AM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > regrettably no. at this point make (correctly) assumes that mounts.o > should have been built, but it didn't. > sorry for my delayed replay, I've tried I lot of possibilities, needless > to say without success. > > thanks > > michael > > -- > Michael Scherer > Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie > email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at > phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 > > - Original Message - > From: "walt" > To: > Sent: Saturday, 12 May, 2012 20:17 > Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > > > > On 05/10/2012 07:20 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: > >> LD init/mounts.o > >> ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o > >> init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory > > > > Maybe that step is correct but it sure looks strange to me. Looks > > like 'ls' is being substituted for 'ld', maybe? Is that a cut-and- > > paste error? Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments. where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend top posting. but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me to change my habits. obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames. regards michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, 14 May, 2012 04:13 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:44:31AM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: regrettably no. at this point make (correctly) assumes that mounts.o should have been built, but it didn't. sorry for my delayed replay, I've tried I lot of possibilities, needless to say without success. thanks michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - From: "walt" To: Sent: Saturday, 12 May, 2012 20:17 Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > On 05/10/2012 07:20 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: >> LD init/mounts.o >> ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o >> init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory > > Maybe that step is correct but it sure looks strange to me. Looks > like 'ls' is being substituted for 'ld', maybe? Is that a cut-and- > paste error? Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, 14 May 2012 17:26:44 +0200 "Michael Scherer" wrote: > in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message > immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes > huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments. > where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found > more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend > top posting. > but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me > to change my habits. > obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from > now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames. That is rather rude and completely ignores the stated preference of many other people who were here before you. They set the de-facto standard, not you. You are running the risk of being plonked which strikes me as being silly. You post here to get good answers, not to be ignored. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 05:26:44PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message > immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes > huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments. > where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found > more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend > top posting. > but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me > to change my habits. > obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from > now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames. > > regards > > michael > > -- > Michael Scherer > Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie > email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at > phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 > > - Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, 14 May, 2012 04:13 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > > > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > > > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:44:31AM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > > > >> regrettably no. at this point make (correctly) assumes that mounts.o > >> should have been built, but it didn't. > >> sorry for my delayed replay, I've tried I lot of possibilities, needless > >> to say without success. > >> > >> thanks > >> > >> michael > >> > >> -- > >> Michael Scherer > >> Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie > >> email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at > >> phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "walt" > >> To: > >> Sent: Saturday, 12 May, 2012 20:17 > >> Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > >> > >> > >> > On 05/10/2012 07:20 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: > >> >> LD init/mounts.o > >> >> ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o > >> >> init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory > >> > > >> > Maybe that step is correct but it sure looks strange to me. Looks > >> > like 'ls' is being substituted for 'ld', maybe? Is that a cut-and- > >> > paste error? > > > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php *** Below are a set of rules by which you should try and abide whenever posting to a public area such as USENET or a mailing list. They are designed with one thing in mind: being polite to your fellow netizens. Failure to do so can make you look at best inconsiderate, if not plain stupid, or even lead more "seasoned" netizens to believe that you're trolling (deliberately stirring up a fuss in order to draw attention to yourself and/or start up a fight - or flamefest). In the long run you'll just get yourself PLONKED (added to people's killfiles so they no longer have to read what you have to say), which is fairly counter-productive if your intentions are worthy. You can avoid yourself this embarrassment (and everybody else's displeasure) by following the basic rules described here: ... 9. DO NOT TOP-POST and DO trim your replies!!! Top-posting is the annoying practice of replying to a message by typing your response above that to which you are responding. This is a _Bad Thing_ because your readers will have to scroll down and extract the essential of the existing thread in order to grasp the context of your reply, and then scroll back up again to read your reply. Posting a "me too" comment at the bottom of a 100+ line message is no better because people, have to scroll all the way down through 100+ lines they've already read in order to see your one-liner. One word comes to mind for that: frustrating. The generally accepted "right way" of doing things is called "inline posting", whereby you insert your comments straight after that on which you are commenting, having stripped unnecessary text from the original quoted text. The end result is something which makes much more sense because it reads like a conversation. Remember, in a list, you are not only writing for the person who you are responding to. You are posting for whoever may be interested in the topic. While I appreciate that you may not benefit from top posting since you know the context, this is not true for someone who has linked to your message or who is reading it days, weeks or years later. :) Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, May 14 2012, Michael Scherer wrote: > in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message > immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes > huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments. > where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found > more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend > top posting. > but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me > to change my habits. > obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from > now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames. You have forgotten that gentoo-user is a valuable archive site. I keep many old msgs to use much later. At that point a top to bottom reading order is preferred. Moreover, those who are most helpful here all prefer bottom (or in-line) posting. If you shun the wishes of a majority of the group and a vast majority of the most-helpful users, you fate is not flames but "ignoredom". That seems to be a poor idea. Your call allan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, May 14 2012, Michael Scherer wrote: > >> in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message >> immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes >> huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments. >> where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found >> more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend >> top posting. >> but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me >> to change my habits. >> obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from >> now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames. > > You have forgotten that gentoo-user is a valuable archive site. > I keep many old msgs to use much later. At that point a top to bottom > reading order is preferred. > > Moreover, those who are most helpful here all prefer bottom (or in-line) > posting. If you shun the wishes of a majority of the group and a vast > majority of the most-helpful users, you fate is not flames but > "ignoredom". That seems to be a poor idea. > > Your call > allan > > I agree. I have read even on here, been a while tho, where a email address is blacklisted. So OP, if you top post often enough then later post a question, the person with the answer may never see your question hence you will likely get no reply. I have one person blacklisted myself. I have no clue if they come here or not. It goes straight to delete. I think it bypasses the trash even. For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters on this list. I will admit, if just Neil and Alan ignore your posts, you got issues. They are two VERY knowledgeable, and more importantly, helpful people. Most of their posts are helping others too, unlike some of mine. Another thing, they have been on this mailing for a long time and they don't like top posting either if memory serves me well. Me, I will forgive if it is a cell phone thingy that can't be helped. Otherwise, after a couple times, I'm not scrolling all over the place to try to figure out what order the posts are in and all that. I may not blacklist but I will hit the "next" button. OP. You be well advised to reconsider. Other wise, you will be on the forums asking for help and in my opinion, this mailing list is the best place for help. Lifes full of choices tho. Some good, some bad. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On 2012-05-14 11:26 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message immediately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments. This is only the case if the person who replies doesn't trim their quoted text - which is often the case when brain-dead top-posters try bottom (aka inline) posting... where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend top posting. This isn't one of them... but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me to change my habits. obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames. Then you will not get much help here and your participation will be null and void. You should always strive to adjust you habits to the rules of the forum you are participating in... I loathe top-posting, but there are a few forums I participate in where that is the norm, so I just grin and bear it...
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > This is only the case if the person who replies doesn't trim their quoted > text - which is often the case when brain-dead top-posters try bottom (aka > inline) posting... > > > You should always strive to adjust you habits to the rules of the forum you > are participating in... > > I loathe top-posting, but there are a few forums I participate in where that > is the norm, so I just grin and bear it... > Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit. It defaults to top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change. But at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around. On the Android client it seems rather archaic. Does anyone know how to change to bottom-posting on either client? Thankfully, I don't go to any forums that enforce top-posting. I would probably get myself banned from all the complaining I would do.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> This is only the case if the person who replies doesn't trim their quoted >> text - which is often the case when brain-dead top-posters try bottom (aka >> inline) posting... >> >> >> You should always strive to adjust you habits to the rules of the forum you >> are participating in... >> >> I loathe top-posting, but there are a few forums I participate in where that >> is the norm, so I just grin and bear it... >> > > Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit. It defaults to > top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change. But > at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around. On the > Android client it seems rather archaic. Does anyone know how to > change to bottom-posting on either client? In Android, you can press "Reply in-line", but then you've got to navigate potentially large email threads using a tiny screen to get to the right place to reply. It's an ugly scenario. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, 14 May 2012 14:11:25 -0500 Alecks Gates wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Tanstaafl > wrote: > > This is only the case if the person who replies doesn't trim their > > quoted text - which is often the case when brain-dead top-posters > > try bottom (aka inline) posting... > > > > > > You should always strive to adjust you habits to the rules of the > > forum you are participating in... > > > > I loathe top-posting, but there are a few forums I participate in > > where that is the norm, so I just grin and bear it... > > > > Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit. It defaults to > top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change. But > at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around. On the > Android client it seems rather archaic. Does anyone know how to > change to bottom-posting on either client? So around here we say don't top post rather bottom bottom, but what we actually mean is inline post with your contribution below the portion you are replying to and extraneous bits of the quoted text removed. Also liberal use of [snip] tags is encouraged. We generally tolerate gmail webapp users (trying to inline post on that is hard to do but possible) and reluctantly accept the smartphone users often have no choice as it's impossible to do anything other than top post on many devices (especially BlackBerrys). Such users should leave the nice "Sent from my BlackBerry" comment at the bottom, it helps indicate you can't avoid the top-post. All of these "rules" are like any other form of good manners - designed to smooth communication and make it a pleasant thing to do. Just like in real life, it's equally good manners to indicate up-front if you can't do the norm. Example: some places it's expected that men stand up when a lady enters the room. But not if the man has a broken leg, in which case he should make sure the plaster cast and crutches can be seen. See how it works? :-) -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 Dale wrote: > For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters > on this list. Yo Dale, You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-) I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me this year [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] > We generally tolerate gmail webapp users (trying to inline post on that > is hard to do but possible) and reluctantly accept the smartphone users > often have no choice as it's impossible to do anything other than top > post on many devices (especially BlackBerrys). Such users should leave > the nice "Sent from my BlackBerry" comment at the bottom, it helps > indicate you can't avoid the top-post. You may have noticed I usually have ":wq" at the ends of my emails. That's when I'm posting from, e.g. GMail's web app. When you see "ZZ", that's my phone or tablet. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, 14 May 2012 17:01:59 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > [snip] > > > We generally tolerate gmail webapp users (trying to inline post on > > that is hard to do but possible) and reluctantly accept the > > smartphone users often have no choice as it's impossible to do > > anything other than top post on many devices (especially > > BlackBerrys). Such users should leave the nice "Sent from my > > BlackBerry" comment at the bottom, it helps indicate you can't > > avoid the top-post. > > You may have noticed I usually have ":wq" at the ends of my emails. > That's when I'm posting from, e.g. GMail's web app. When you see "ZZ", > that's my phone or tablet. > True's bob, whaddaya know. It's there right enough :-) I still think Neil has the best sigs in the entire universe. It's spooky the way his fortunes work. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, 14 May 2012 23:24:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I still think Neil has the best sigs in the entire universe. > It's spooky the way his fortunes work. They're totally random and chosen by software, I have no influence over them. -- Neil Bothwick A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, 14 May 2012 17:26:44 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from Not a habit, a preference grown from years of experience and the practicalities of lists like this. > now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames. Do you act like that in real life? If you see a no smoking sign, do you light up anyway because that's what you want to do and damn everyone else? Help lists like this become significantly less useful once you are killfiled for being an arrogant and ignorant . -- Neil Bothwick Computer apathy error: don't bother striking any key. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, 14 May 2012 22:53:40 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2012 23:24:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > I still think Neil has the best sigs in the entire universe. > > It's spooky the way his fortunes work. > > They're totally random and chosen by software, I have no influence > over them. > > Piffle :-) Spooky action at a distance, that's what it is! -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2012 23:24:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I still think Neil has the best sigs in the entire universe. >> It's spooky the way his fortunes work. > > They're totally random and chosen by software, I have no influence over > them. > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Spooky indeed. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2012 22:53:40 +0100 > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 May 2012 23:24:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > I still think Neil has the best sigs in the entire universe. >> > It's spooky the way his fortunes work. >> >> They're totally random and chosen by software, I have no influence >> over them. > > Piffle :-) > > Spooky action at a distance, that's what it is! I do believe you're overestimating the gravity of the situation. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On May 15, 2012 2:16 AM, "Alecks Gates" wrote: > > Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit. It defaults to > top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change. But > at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around. On the > Android client it seems rather archaic. Does anyone know how to > change to bottom-posting on either client? > > Thankfully, I don't go to any forums that enforce top-posting. I > would probably get myself banned from all the complaining I would do. > Android user here! With the Android Gmail client, tap on "Respond inline", swipe up repeatedly, and tap on the blank line underneath the message. I found Swype (the virtual keyboard) to be most helpful when trimming fluff; it has honest-to-goodness cursor keys (including PgUp and PgDn), and a *very* helpful "Select Text" button to start selection. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On May 15, 2012 2:27 AM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: > > > > Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit. It defaults to > > top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change. But > > at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around. On the > > Android client it seems rather archaic. Does anyone know how to > > change to bottom-posting on either client? > > In Android, you can press "Reply in-line", but then you've got to > navigate potentially large email threads using a tiny screen to get to > the right place to reply. It's an ugly scenario. > Meh, just saw your post and realized you've beaten me :-\ Again, please allow me to plug the goodness of Swype... like I posted before, it has *complete* cursor keys. Plus one very powerful key called "Cursor Jump" that allows one to very quickly go to the topmost (or bottom most) line. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On May 15, 2012 2:27 AM, "Michael Mol" wrote: >> >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: >> > >> > Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit. It defaults to >> > top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change. But >> > at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around. On the >> > Android client it seems rather archaic. Does anyone know how to >> > change to bottom-posting on either client? >> >> In Android, you can press "Reply in-line", but then you've got to >> navigate potentially large email threads using a tiny screen to get to >> the right place to reply. It's an ugly scenario. >> > > Meh, just saw your post and realized you've beaten me :-\ > > Again, please allow me to plug the goodness of Swype... like I posted > before, it has *complete* cursor keys. Plus one very powerful key called > "Cursor Jump" that allows one to very quickly go to the topmost (or bottom > most) line. > > Rgds, I've been quite set on my hardware keyboard for a while now (HTC G2). But perhaps I'll try out Swype eventually
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On May 15, 2012 7:11 AM, "Alecks Gates" wrote: > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > On May 15, 2012 2:27 AM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: > >> > > >> > Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit. It defaults to > >> > top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change. But > >> > at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around. On the > >> > Android client it seems rather archaic. Does anyone know how to > >> > change to bottom-posting on either client? > >> > >> In Android, you can press "Reply in-line", but then you've got to > >> navigate potentially large email threads using a tiny screen to get to > >> the right place to reply. It's an ugly scenario. > >> > > > > Meh, just saw your post and realized you've beaten me :-\ > > > > Again, please allow me to plug the goodness of Swype... like I posted > > before, it has *complete* cursor keys. Plus one very powerful key called > > "Cursor Jump" that allows one to very quickly go to the topmost (or bottom > > most) line. > > > > Rgds, > > I've been quite set on my hardware keyboard for a while now (HTC G2). > But perhaps I'll try out Swype eventually > You can still use the hardware keyboard, after using Swype to mangle the replied-to email :-) Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 > Dale wrote: > >> For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters >> on this list. > > Yo Dale, > > You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-) > > I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says > Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me > this year > > [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. Someone put alum in your water or something? ROFL Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:46:39 -0500 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 > > Dale wrote: > > > >> For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top > >> posters on this list. > > > > Yo Dale, > > > > You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-) > > > > I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says > > Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me > > this year > > > > [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it > > > > > > > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. > Someone put alum in your water or something? > > ROFL > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Would like to thank all guys and girls for posting. Even though I post very little myself your posts are always excellent and there is plenty to learn from just reading them. There are things I can do now which I never thought possible. Thanks -- John D Maunder
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 >> Dale wrote: >> >>> For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters >>> on this list. >> >> Yo Dale, >> >> You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-) >> >> I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says >> Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me >> this year >> >> [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it >> >> >> > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. > Someone put alum in your water or something? > > ROFL > > Dale > Jeez Am I _STILL_ showing up on this list of high posting people? I've honestly worked to get below number 10 and I cannot get there apparently... (Too many posts like this I suppose!) ;-) - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Dale wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 >>> Dale wrote: >>> For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters on this list. >>> >>> Yo Dale, >>> >>> You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-) >>> >>> I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says >>> Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me >>> this year >>> >>> [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: >> >> http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml >> >> I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. >> Someone put alum in your water or something? >> >> ROFL >> >> Dale >> > > Jeez Am I _STILL_ showing up on this list of high posting people? > I've honestly worked to get below number 10 and I cannot get there > apparently... (Too many posts like this I suppose!) ;-) > > - Mark > > I'm wondering on this myself. Should I take more meds or are the meds causing it? < scratches head > o_O Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:01:00 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit > > tho. Someone put alum in your water or something? > > > > ROFL > > > > Dale > > > > Jeez Am I _STILL_ showing up on this list of high posting people? > I've honestly worked to get below number 10 and I cannot get there > apparently... (Too many posts like this I suppose!) ;-) This gentoo stuff is addictive :-) Must be the personalities around here. I reckon that anyone who sticks around here and becomes a regular (regardless of their skill level) has something special going on inside. Gentoo-ers all have that DIY attitude, as if they would rather not wait around for someone else to do all their lifting for them. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Tuesday 15 May 2012 18:25:57 john wrote: > Would like to thank all guys and girls for posting. Even though I > post very little myself your posts are always excellent and there is > plenty to learn from just reading them. > > There are things I can do now which I never thought possible. Thanks Is this one case in which a me-too message is acceptable? Anyway, I second John's gratitude to you all. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. > Someone put alum in your water or something? > I blabbed that much?? Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related to CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end up in the top 5?? o_O Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:32 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: > On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit > > tho. Someone put alum in your water or something? > > > > I blabbed that much?? > > Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related to > CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end up in > the top 5?? o_O > > Rgds, OK, OK. May I remind you what started this thread? If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious. I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post on preferring top-most would start off. My original problem (see title) is as yet unsolved. Any one out there with an idea what might be causing this? I'm grateful to those 3 or 4 who tried to help, but by now I'm rather desperate and in the whole of internet pages there is nothing even coming near. bugzilla told me this wasn't a bug and go to the forums. So you are really my last resort. regards, michael
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
Michael Scherer wrote: > On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:32 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" wrote: >>> >>> Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: >>> >>> http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml >>> >>> I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit >>> tho. Someone put alum in your water or something? >>> >> >> I blabbed that much?? >> >> Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related to >> CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end up in >> the top 5?? o_O >> >> Rgds, > > OK, OK. May I remind you what started this thread? > If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will > of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm > forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious. > I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post > on preferring top-most would start off. > > My original problem (see title) is as yet unsolved. Any one > out there with an idea what might be causing this? > I'm grateful to those 3 or 4 who tried to help, but > by now I'm rather desperate and in the whole of internet > pages there is nothing even coming near. > > bugzilla told me this wasn't a bug and go to the forums. > So you are really my last resort. > > regards, michael > > I would start with running make -j1 && make modules_install. Someone else posted it could be a race condition. Are you editing the config by hand or are you using menuconfig or some such tool? If editing by hand maybe one thing is enabled but something else it needs is not. Still thinking. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thu, 17 May 2012 18:14:20 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post > on preferring top-most would start off. It wasn't your preference, it was your attitude, with this comment "from now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames." Did you really have no idea that such an arrogant and inflammatory statement would produce a reaction? -- Neil Bothwick She's fine, upstanding, and wonderful laying down. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On 2012-05-17 12:14 PM, Michael Scherer wrote: If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious. Interesting... so, you have someone standing next to you most of the time, pointing a gun at your head, forcing you to use one of the worst mail clients that ever existed?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On May 17, 2012 11:19 PM, "Michael Scherer" wrote: > > On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:32 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > > > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > > > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > > > > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit > > > tho. Someone put alum in your water or something? > > > > > > > I blabbed that much?? > > > > Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related to > > CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end up in > > the top 5?? o_O > > > > Rgds, > > OK, OK. May I remind you what started this thread? > If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will > of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm > forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious. > I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post > on preferring top-most would start off. > > My original problem (see title) is as yet unsolved. Any one > out there with an idea what might be causing this? > I'm grateful to those 3 or 4 who tried to help, but > by now I'm rather desperate and in the whole of internet > pages there is nothing even coming near. > > bugzilla told me this wasn't a bug and go to the forums. > So you are really my last resort. > > regards, michael > Based on the information you've given, there can be only 2 possible cause: 1. The Makefile is somehow b0rken. Evidence : 'ls' instead of 'ld' 2. Some file creation failed, causing the next step to fail. Please post the output of 'df -i'. I once ran out of inodes during kernel compile, even when the filesystem (ext4) was created with IIRC 100'000-something inodes (and still having several gigabytes of free space). Nowadays, I put /usr/src and portage's tempdir on a reiserfs to prevent running out of inodes. 3. Something is wrong with your filesystem. Especially if /usr/src is *already* on reiserfs. In this case, boot using SystemRescueCD and do an offline fsck on the partition containing /usr/src 4. Swapfile / Swap partition problems. Even with enough RAM, sometimes gcc just wants a swap. Post the output of 'swapon -s' please. And there's also the possibility that somehow the swap gets b0rked. Try turning off swap, rebuild the swap, and turning it back on. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thu, 17 May 2012 18:13:14 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 17 May 2012 18:14:20 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > > > I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post > > on preferring top-most would start off. > > It wasn't your preference, it was your attitude, with this comment > > "from now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames." > > Did you really have no idea that such an arrogant and inflammatory > statement would produce a reaction? > > That line was indeed ill conceived, and is usually not my style. Probably I was very tired and the frustration about not being able to solve my problem expressed itself in the wrong context. regards, michael
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 01:47:56PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2012-05-17 12:14 PM, Michael Scherer wrote: > > If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will of course > > comply, though with outlook express which I'm forced to use most of > > the time this is a bit tedious. > > Interesting... so, you have someone standing next to you most of the > time, pointing a gun at your head, forcing you to use one of the worst > mail clients that ever existed? > How befitting that MS's flagship email client top posts by default... Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thu, 17 May 2012 12:05:07 -0500 Dale wrote: > Michael Scherer wrote: > > On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:32 +0700 > > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > >> On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" wrote: > >>> > >>> Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > >>> > >>> http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > >>> > >>> I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit > >>> tho. Someone put alum in your water or something? > >>> > >> > >> I blabbed that much?? > >> > >> Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related > >> to CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end > >> up in the top 5?? o_O > >> > >> Rgds, > > > > OK, OK. May I remind you what started this thread? > > If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will > > of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm > > forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious. > > I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post > > on preferring top-most would start off. > > > > My original problem (see title) is as yet unsolved. Any one > > out there with an idea what might be causing this? > > I'm grateful to those 3 or 4 who tried to help, but > > by now I'm rather desperate and in the whole of internet > > pages there is nothing even coming near. > > > > bugzilla told me this wasn't a bug and go to the forums. > > So you are really my last resort. > > > > regards, michael > > > > > > > I would start with running make -j1 && make modules_install. Someone > else posted it could be a race condition. > > Are you editing the config by hand or are you using menuconfig or some > such tool? If editing by hand maybe one thing is enabled but > something else it needs is not. > > Still thinking. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > Same result as ever. I use make nconfig, which is somewhat easier to navigate around. Only once I tried to manually change .config, because revdep-rebuild wanted to rebuild sys-fs/udisks, which complained about CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND not being set, but a silent make oldconfig removed the line automatically. I did the change manually because CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND doesn't seem to exist in 3.2.12. Anyway, thank you for thinking about it. regards, michael
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thu, 17 May 2012 12:14:08 -0700 ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 01:47:56PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > On 2012-05-17 12:14 PM, Michael Scherer > > wrote: > > > If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will of course > > > comply, though with outlook express which I'm forced to use most > > > of the time this is a bit tedious. > > > > Interesting... so, you have someone standing next to you most of > > the time, pointing a gun at your head, forcing you to use one of > > the worst mail clients that ever existed? > > > > How befitting that MS's flagship email client top posts by default... Outlook Express? Not even MS would attach the label "flagship" to Outlook Express. Mind you, Outlook is infernally difficult to make it inter-port or bottom-post. Like gmail's web clientt, there's a lot of fiddling with backspace, delete, undo and cursor keys involved. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:47:56 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2012-05-17 12:14 PM, Michael Scherer > wrote: > > If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will of course > > comply, though with outlook express which I'm forced to use most of > > the time this is a bit tedious. > > Interesting... so, you have someone standing next to you most of the > time, pointing a gun at your head, forcing you to use one of the > worst mail clients that ever existed? > thunderbird under windows has problems with imap accounts and outlook is still much worse, not to speak of gmail and the like. With "forced" I actually meant "forced to work with windows", where I use outlook express which may be bad but I am used to it. regards, michael
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Fri, 18 May 2012 01:06:02 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: > On May 17, 2012 11:19 PM, "Michael Scherer" > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:32 +0700 > > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > > On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > > > > > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > > > > > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > > > > > > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit > > > > tho. Someone put alum in your water or something? > > > > > > > > > > I blabbed that much?? > > > > > > Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related > > > to CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end > > > up in the top 5?? o_O > > > > > > Rgds, > > > > OK, OK. May I remind you what started this thread? > > If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will > > of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm > > forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious. > > I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post > > on preferring top-most would start off. > > > > My original problem (see title) is as yet unsolved. Any one > > out there with an idea what might be causing this? > > I'm grateful to those 3 or 4 who tried to help, but > > by now I'm rather desperate and in the whole of internet > > pages there is nothing even coming near. > > > > bugzilla told me this wasn't a bug and go to the forums. > > So you are really my last resort. > > > > regards, michael > > > > Based on the information you've given, there can be only 2 possible > cause: > > 1. The Makefile is somehow b0rken. > > Evidence : 'ls' instead of 'ld' > > 2. Some file creation failed, causing the next step to fail. > > Please post the output of 'df -i'. I once ran out of inodes during > kernel compile, even when the filesystem (ext4) was created with IIRC > 100'000-something inodes (and still having several gigabytes of free > space). > > Nowadays, I put /usr/src and portage's tempdir on a reiserfs to > prevent running out of inodes. > > 3. Something is wrong with your filesystem. > > Especially if /usr/src is *already* on reiserfs. In this case, boot > using SystemRescueCD and do an offline fsck on the partition > containing /usr/src > > 4. Swapfile / Swap partition problems. > > Even with enough RAM, sometimes gcc just wants a swap. Post the > output of 'swapon -s' please. > > And there's also the possibility that somehow the swap gets b0rked. > Try turning off swap, rebuild the swap, and turning it back on. > > Rgds, 1) make output: CHK include/linux/version.h CHK include/generated/utsrelease.h CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh CHK include/generated/compile.h LD init/mounts.o ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [init/mounts.o] Error 1 make: *** [init] Error 2 There is an LD, the ls line is part of the error message. 2) df -i Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on rootfs 1313280 5652 13076281% / /dev/root 1313280 5652 13076281% / devtmpfs385505785 3847201% /dev rc-svcdir 385724 63 3856611% /lib64/rc/init.d /tmpfs 385724 1 3857231% /dev/shm /dev/sda12 130560 23 1305371% /boot /dev/sda15 3932656 363434 3569222 10% /usr /dev/sda16 6119424 275818 58436065% /var 3) /usr/src is ext4, and all ebuilds run without problems. If something is wrong with the file system, maybe an fsck would show it, so I'll try that. 4) swapon -s FilenameTypeSize UsedPriority /dev/sda13 partition 104823760 -1 immediately after running make. Remaking the swap area resulted in the same line as above. But without doubt you are right that mounts.o is not built, for whatever reason. The build command init/.do_mounts.o.cmd:cmd_init/do_mounts.o := gcc -Wp,-MD,init/.do_mounts.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include -I/usr/src/linux-3.2.12-gentoo/arch/x86/include -Iarch/x86/include/generated -Iinclude -include /usr/src/linux-3.2.12-gentoo/include/linux/kconfig.h -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Wno-format-security -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -O2 -m64 -march=k8 -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -funit-at-a-time -maccumulate-outgoing-args -fstack-protector -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SECTIONS=1 -DCONFIG_AS_FXSAVEQ=1 -pipe -Wno-sign-compare -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -Wframe-larger-than=2048 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-optimize-sibling-calls -fno-inline-functions-called-once -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -fno-strict-overflow -fconserve-stack -DCC_HAVE_ASM_GOTO -D"KBUILD_STR(s)=\#s" -D"KBUILD_BASENAME=KBUILD_STR(
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17.05.2012 22:13, Michael Scherer wrote: > > 1) make output: > > CHK include/linux/version.h CHK > include/generated/utsrelease.h CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh CHK > include/generated/compile.h LD init/mounts.o ls -Al -m > elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o > init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory > make[1]: *** [init/mounts.o] Error 1 make: *** [init] Error 2 > > There is an LD, the ls line is part of the error message. > > > contains a directive to build mounts.o, see second last line, but > it for some reason this is ignored. Maybe there is a flaw in that > command, only I can't find it. > > regards, michael > > Have you tried a make clean on your sourcetree? CHK include/linux/version.h IS for me one of the first lines I get at all. It seems strange to me that you get a call to the linker (LD) before even a call to the compiler (CC). I'd suggest you try a make clean first and try to build again afterwards (with -j1 or without a statement for jobs) to rule out race conditions. If that doesn't help, move your kernel sources to another directory and reemerge the sources. Copy your .config (ideally one of a working tree) and try again. If that doesn't help, try to get a working default config (like from /proc/config.gz from a live distro). WKR Hinnerk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPtWSXAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYc8tAH/iV59mb5MsH0pJ28dXUqe0X6 tcbKB18vIQYmjG9gecGX4lVtgXCIhTqVeHEKbQVN4xRMo9u7D7FxygHtRY7sfYrk dvR9fs4RfIoykVeCF/0uVSNZnoXhixarYtr8FGvIKCxvUJnY/ws4W+k5tP8Ju8lJ wM5ldQ/eD8H4vFm4fIStQheTGERZlueNBVf77cLx8K/8p0XBvVM85V/epg+fC4I4 bfWG1JtXrh1MUmaE+Y26aNOXGkUZiHax49CBiOUQLZNjk6f5idGppWV03HTL4mCV +dI6lNaUqU0AhnoG3yIOK8lY4kFu3QmNw4h1r+OCctASMJe8dUOTnF53TjJzYQk= =TguL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thu, 17 May 2012 22:13:02 +0200 Michael Scherer wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2012 01:06:02 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > On May 17, 2012 11:19 PM, "Michael Scherer" > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:32 +0700 > > > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > > > > On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > > > > > > > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > > > > > > > > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a > > > > > bit tho. Someone put alum in your water or something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I blabbed that much?? > > > > > > > > Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads > > > > related to CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and > > > > still end up in the top 5?? o_O > > > > > > > > Rgds, > > > > > > OK, OK. May I remind you what started this thread? > > > If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will > > > of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm > > > forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious. > > > I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post > > > on preferring top-most would start off. > > > > > > My original problem (see title) is as yet unsolved. Any one > > > out there with an idea what might be causing this? > > > I'm grateful to those 3 or 4 who tried to help, but > > > by now I'm rather desperate and in the whole of internet > > > pages there is nothing even coming near. > > > > > > bugzilla told me this wasn't a bug and go to the forums. > > > So you are really my last resort. > > > > > > regards, michael > > > > > > > Based on the information you've given, there can be only 2 possible > > cause: > > > > 1. The Makefile is somehow b0rken. > > > > Evidence : 'ls' instead of 'ld' > > > > 2. Some file creation failed, causing the next step to fail. > > > > Please post the output of 'df -i'. I once ran out of inodes during > > kernel compile, even when the filesystem (ext4) was created with > > IIRC 100'000-something inodes (and still having several gigabytes > > of free space). > > > > Nowadays, I put /usr/src and portage's tempdir on a reiserfs to > > prevent running out of inodes. > > > > 3. Something is wrong with your filesystem. > > > > Especially if /usr/src is *already* on reiserfs. In this case, boot > > using SystemRescueCD and do an offline fsck on the partition > > containing /usr/src > > > > 4. Swapfile / Swap partition problems. > > > > Even with enough RAM, sometimes gcc just wants a swap. Post the > > output of 'swapon -s' please. > > > > And there's also the possibility that somehow the swap gets b0rked. > > Try turning off swap, rebuild the swap, and turning it back on. > > > > Rgds, > > 1) make output: > > CHK include/linux/version.h > CHK include/generated/utsrelease.h > CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh > CHK include/generated/compile.h > LD init/mounts.o > ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o > init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory > make[1]: *** [init/mounts.o] Error 1 > make: *** [init] Error 2 > > There is an LD, the ls line is part of the error message. > > 2) df -i > > Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on > rootfs 1313280 5652 13076281% / > /dev/root 1313280 5652 13076281% / > devtmpfs385505785 3847201% /dev > rc-svcdir 385724 63 3856611% /lib64/rc/init.d > /tmpfs 385724 1 3857231% /dev/shm > /dev/sda12 130560 23 1305371% /boot > /dev/sda15 3932656 363434 3569222 10% /usr > /dev/sda16 6119424 275818 58436065% /var > > 3) /usr/src is ext4, and all ebuilds run without problems. > If something is wrong with the file system, maybe an fsck would > show it, so I'll try that. > > 4) swapon -s > > Filename TypeSize > Used Priority /dev/sda13 > partition 104823760 -1 > > immediately after running make. > > Remaking the swap area resulted in the same line as above. > > But without doubt you are right that mounts.o is not built, for > whatever reason. The build command > > init/.do_mounts.o.cmd:cmd_init/do_mounts.o := gcc > -Wp,-MD,init/.do_mounts.o.d -nostdinc > -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include > -I/usr/src/linux-3.2.12-gentoo/arch/x86/include > -Iarch/x86/include/generated -Iinclude > -include /usr/src/linux-3.2.12-gentoo/include/linux/kconfig.h > -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs > -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Werror-implicit-function-declaration > -Wno-format-security -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -O2 -m64 > -march=k8 -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -funit-at-a-time > -maccumulate-outgoing-args -fstack-protector -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 > -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SECTIONS=1 > -DCONFIG_AS_FXSAVEQ=1 -pipe -Wno-sign-compare > -fno-asynchro
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
Michael Scherer writes: > 1) make output: > > CHK include/linux/version.h > CHK include/generated/utsrelease.h > CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh > CHK include/generated/compile.h > LD init/mounts.o > ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o > init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory > make[1]: *** [init/mounts.o] Error 1 > make: *** [init] Error 2 > > There is an LD, the ls line is part of the error message. But the options look really more like ld options to me. How this could possibly happen, I don't know. Some overriding of $(LD) perhaps? Does "env | egrep -i 'ls|ld'" show something weird? Does it also fail as a non-root user, after you copied the stuff over to somewhere where this user can write? Just grasping at straws here. > But without doubt you are right that mounts.o is not built, for > whatever reason. Because ld should build it from init/do_mounts.o, but ls is being called instead? > The build command > > init/.do_mounts.o.cmd:cmd_init/do_mounts.o := gcc > -Wp,-MD,init/.do_mounts.o.d -nostdinc > -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include > -I/usr/src/linux-3.2.12-gentoo/arch/x86/include > -Iarch/x86/include/generated -Iinclude > -include /usr/src/linux-3.2.12-gentoo/include/linux/kconfig.h > -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs > -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Werror-implicit-function-declaration > -Wno-format-security -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -O2 -m64 -march=k8 > -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -funit-at-a-time > -maccumulate-outgoing-args -fstack-protector -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 > -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SECTIONS=1 > -DCONFIG_AS_FXSAVEQ=1 -pipe -Wno-sign-compare > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow > -Wframe-larger-than=2048 -fno-omit-frame-pointer > -fno-optimize-sibling-calls -fno-inline-functions-called-once > -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -fno-strict-overflow > -fconserve-stack -DCC_HAVE_ASM_GOTO -D"KBUILD_STR(s)=\#s" > -D"KBUILD_BASENAME=KBUILD_STR(do_mounts)" > -D"KBUILD_MODNAME=KBUILD_STR(mounts)" -c -o init/do_mounts.o > init/do_mounts.c > > contains a directive to build mounts.o, see second last line, but > it for some reason this is ignored. > Maybe there is a flaw in that command, only I can't find it. Neither can I. Is this command executed at all? If you maybe replace the 'gcc' by 'gccXXX', does this give an error? Or put an 'echo' in front of the gcc'. You can try 'make -d', this will give you LOTS of debug output, but I don't think you will see the actual commands then. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2012-05-17 12:14 PM, Michael Scherer wrote: >> >> If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will of course >> comply, though with outlook express which I'm forced to use most of >> the time this is a bit tedious. > > > Interesting... so, you have someone standing next to you most of the time, > pointing a gun at your head, forcing you to use one of the worst mail > clients that ever existed? That's generally called a job. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thursday 17 May 2012 20:25:01 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Outlook Express? Not even MS would attach the label "flagship" to > Outlook Express. A recent experience has suggested a reason for OE to work the way it does. Using it the way it's designed to be used, the entire conversation so far is included in every message; this will save mucho casho for those organisations that don't want to store e-mails - they rely on being able to scan an incoming e-mail to find out what it's all about. Not an efficient use of bandwidth. In fact it's an abuse of network operators to relieve user companies of their responsibilities. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:01:00AM -0700, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked: > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > > Jeez Am I _STILL_ showing up on this list of high posting people? > I've honestly worked to get below number 10 and I cannot get there > apparently... (Too many posts like this I suppose!) ;-) > Ah, another year, yet another new e-mail address. This certainly helped keep me under the radar. I am quite surprised that I appeared at all on that list, though I suppose my verbosity level has decreased as I aged. Cheers, W -- Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
Am Montag, 14. Mai 2012, 19:46:39 schrieb Dale: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 > > > > Dale wrote: > >> For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters > >> on this list. > > > > Yo Dale, > > > > You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-) > > > > I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says > > Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me > > this year > > > > [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. > Someone put alum in your water or something? > > while I am somehow glad to be part of the Top 20 since 2005, I am even more happy, that I am not a regular Top5 poster. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
I have no surefire solution, but so far everyone and their $PET seems to have taken for granted that your toolchain is just fine and sane. Perhaps "emerge -e @system" (without ccache, distcc or other distractions) would jiggle those bits again? -- Arttu V. On 5/19/12, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag, 14. Mai 2012, 19:46:39 schrieb Dale: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 >> > >> > Dale wrote: >> >> For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters >> >> on this list. >> > >> > Yo Dale, >> > >> > You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-) >> > >> > I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says >> > Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me >> > this year >> > >> > [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it >> >> Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: >> >> http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml >> >> I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. >> Someone put alum in your water or something? >> >> > > while I am somehow glad to be part of the Top 20 since 2005, I am even more > > happy, that I am not a regular Top5 poster. > > > > -- > #163933 > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 17.05.2012 22:13, Michael Scherer wrote: > >> >> 1) make output: >> >> CHK include/linux/version.h CHK >> include/generated/utsrelease.h CALL scripts/checksyscalls.sh CHK >> include/generated/compile.h LD init/mounts.o ls -Al -m >> elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o >> init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory >> make[1]: *** [init/mounts.o] Error 1 make: *** [init] Error 2 >> >> There is an LD, the ls line is part of the error message. >> > >> >> contains a directive to build mounts.o, see second last line, but >> it for some reason this is ignored. Maybe there is a flaw in that >> command, only I can't find it. >> >> regards, michael >> >> > > Have you tried a make clean on your sourcetree? > > CHK include/linux/version.h > > IS for me one of the first lines I get at all. It seems strange to me > that you get a call to the linker (LD) before even a call to the > compiler (CC). > > I'd suggest you try a make clean first and try to build again > afterwards (with -j1 or without a statement for jobs) to rule out race > conditions. > > If that doesn't help, move your kernel sources to another directory > and reemerge the sources. Copy your .config (ideally one of a working > tree) and try again. If that doesn't help, try to get a working > default config (like from /proc/config.gz from a live distro). > > WKR > > Hinnerk > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPtWSXAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYc8tAH/iV59mb5MsH0pJ28dXUqe0X6 > tcbKB18vIQYmjG9gecGX4lVtgXCIhTqVeHEKbQVN4xRMo9u7D7FxygHtRY7sfYrk > dvR9fs4RfIoykVeCF/0uVSNZnoXhixarYtr8FGvIKCxvUJnY/ws4W+k5tP8Ju8lJ > wM5ldQ/eD8H4vFm4fIStQheTGERZlueNBVf77cLx8K/8p0XBvVM85V/epg+fC4I4 > bfWG1JtXrh1MUmaE+Y26aNOXGkUZiHax49CBiOUQLZNjk6f5idGppWV03HTL4mCV > +dI6lNaUqU0AhnoG3yIOK8lY4kFu3QmNw4h1r+OCctASMJe8dUOTnF53TjJzYQk= > =TguL > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > I'd be more active and vocal in trying to help sort this out, but it's been a busy week since the 1k mile trip to get a car and working on getting it into the shape I want it in... that aside, I *did* manage to, without any changes, drop in the config provided at the start of all this into a gentoo-sources 3.2.12 tree (after a quick mrproper) and it built without issues. To me, that indicates that the toolchain, particular copy of the sources, or hardware have an issue. That the problem is as consistent as it is while the rest of the system isn't failing in horrifying ways implies it's not the hardware. The resulting modules and kernel from my building it can be grabbed from http://poisonbl.freeshell.org/3.2.12_test.tar.bz2 -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Thu, 17 May 2012 22:59:41 +0200 Alex Schuster wrote: > Michael Scherer writes: > > > 1) make output: > > > > CHK include/linux/version.h > > CHK include/generated/utsrelease.h > > CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh > > CHK include/generated/compile.h > > LD init/mounts.o > > ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o > > init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory > > make[1]: *** [init/mounts.o] Error 1 > > make: *** [init] Error 2 > > > > There is an LD, the ls line is part of the error message. > > But the options look really more like ld options to me. How this could > possibly happen, I don't know. Some overriding of $(LD) perhaps? Does > "env | egrep -i 'ls|ld'" show something weird? Does it also fail as a > non-root user, after you copied the stuff over to somewhere where this > user can write? Just grasping at straws here. > > > > But without doubt you are right that mounts.o is not built, for > > whatever reason. > > Because ld should build it from init/do_mounts.o, but ls is being > called instead? > > > The build command > > > > init/.do_mounts.o.cmd:cmd_init/do_mounts.o := gcc > > -Wp,-MD,init/.do_mounts.o.d -nostdinc > > -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include > > -I/usr/src/linux-3.2.12-gentoo/arch/x86/include > > -Iarch/x86/include/generated -Iinclude > > -include /usr/src/linux-3.2.12-gentoo/include/linux/kconfig.h > > -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs > > -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common > > -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Wno-format-security > > -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -O2 -m64 -march=k8 -mno-red-zone > > -mcmodel=kernel -funit-at-a-time -maccumulate-outgoing-args > > -fstack-protector -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1 > > -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SECTIONS=1 -DCONFIG_AS_FXSAVEQ=1 -pipe > > -Wno-sign-compare -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -mno-sse -mno-mmx > > -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -Wframe-larger-than=2048 > > -fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-optimize-sibling-calls > > -fno-inline-functions-called-once -Wdeclaration-after-statement > > -Wno-pointer-sign -fno-strict-overflow -fconserve-stack > > -DCC_HAVE_ASM_GOTO -D"KBUILD_STR(s)=\#s" > > -D"KBUILD_BASENAME=KBUILD_STR(do_mounts)" > > -D"KBUILD_MODNAME=KBUILD_STR(mounts)" -c -o init/do_mounts.o > > init/do_mounts.c > > > > contains a directive to build mounts.o, see second last line, but > > it for some reason this is ignored. > > Maybe there is a flaw in that command, only I can't find it. > > Neither can I. Is this command executed at all? If you maybe replace > the 'gcc' by 'gccXXX', does this give an error? Or put an 'echo' in > front of the gcc'. > You can try 'make -d', this will give you LOTS of debug output, but I > don't think you will see the actual commands then. > > Wonko > Now at last there is some kind of "progress". Last thing I tried was replacing my current .config with that of my previous kernel (3.2.1-r2) and at least the make ran all the way up to the point where it should link everything to build vmlinux, only now it tells me it couldn't find vmlinux.o. The last couple of lines from the make output: CC arch/x86/lib/cache-smp.o CC arch/x86/lib/msr.o AS arch/x86/lib/msr-reg.o CC arch/x86/lib/msr-reg-export.o AS arch/x86/lib/iomap_copy_64.o LD arch/x86/lib/built-in.o ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o arch/x86/lib/built-in.o arch/x86/lib/msr-smp.o arch/x86/lib/cache-smp.o arch/x86/lib/msr.o arch/x86/lib/msr-reg.o arch/x86/lib/msr-reg-export.o arch/x86/lib/iomap_copy_64.o AS arch/x86/lib/clear_page_64.o AS arch/x86/lib/cmpxchg16b_emu.o AS arch/x86/lib/copy_page_64.o AS arch/x86/lib/copy_user_64.o AS arch/x86/lib/copy_user_nocache_64.o AS arch/x86/lib/csum-copy_64.o CC arch/x86/lib/csum-partial_64.o CC arch/x86/lib/csum-wrappers_64.o CC arch/x86/lib/delay.o AS arch/x86/lib/getuser.o GEN arch/x86/lib/inat-tables.c CC arch/x86/lib/inat.o CC arch/x86/lib/insn.o AS arch/x86/lib/memcpy_64.o AS arch/x86/lib/memmove_64.o AS arch/x86/lib/memset_64.o AS arch/x86/lib/putuser.o AS arch/x86/lib/rwlock.o AS arch/x86/lib/rwsem.o AS arch/x86/lib/thunk_64.o CC arch/x86/lib/usercopy.o CC arch/x86/lib/usercopy_64.o AR arch/x86/lib/lib.a LD vmlinux.o ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o vmlinux.o arch/x86/kernel/head_64.o arch/x86/kernel/head64.o arch/x86/kernel/head.o arch/x86/kernel/init_task.o init/built-in.o --start-group usr/built-in.o arch/x86/built-in.o kernel/built-in.o mm/built-in.o fs/built-in.o ipc/built-in.o security/built-in.o crypto/built-in.o block/built-in.o lib/lib.a arch/x86/lib/lib.a lib/built-in.o arch/x86/lib/built-in.o drivers/built-in.o sound/built-in.o firmware/built-in.o arch/x86/pci/built-in.o arch/x86/power/built-in.o arch/x86/video/built-in.o net/built-in.o --end-group MODPOST vmli
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On May 23, 2012 9:14 AM, "Michael Scherer" wrote: > > On Thu, 17 May 2012 22:59:41 +0200 > Alex Schuster wrote: > > > Michael Scherer writes: > > > > > 1) make output: > > > > > > CHK include/linux/version.h > > > CHK include/generated/utsrelease.h > > > CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh > > > CHK include/generated/compile.h > > > LD init/mounts.o > > > ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o > > > init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory > > > make[1]: *** [init/mounts.o] Error 1 > > > make: *** [init] Error 2 > > > > > > There is an LD, the ls line is part of the error message. > > > > But the options look really more like ld options to me. How this could > > possibly happen, I don't know. Some overriding of $(LD) perhaps? Does > > "env | egrep -i 'ls|ld'" show something weird? Does it also fail as a > > non-root user, after you copied the stuff over to somewhere where this > > user can write? Just grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > But without doubt you are right that mounts.o is not built, for > > > whatever reason. > > > > Because ld should build it from init/do_mounts.o, but ls is being > > called instead? > > > > > The build command > > > > > > init/.do_mounts.o.cmd:cmd_init/do_mounts.o := gcc > > > -Wp,-MD,init/.do_mounts.o.d -nostdinc > > > -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include > > > -I/usr/src/linux-3.2.12-gentoo/arch/x86/include > > > -Iarch/x86/include/generated -Iinclude > > > -include /usr/src/linux-3.2.12-gentoo/include/linux/kconfig.h > > > -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs > > > -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common > > > -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Wno-format-security > > > -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -O2 -m64 -march=k8 -mno-red-zone > > > -mcmodel=kernel -funit-at-a-time -maccumulate-outgoing-args > > > -fstack-protector -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1 > > > -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SECTIONS=1 -DCONFIG_AS_FXSAVEQ=1 -pipe > > > -Wno-sign-compare -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -mno-sse -mno-mmx > > > -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -Wframe-larger-than=2048 > > > -fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-optimize-sibling-calls > > > -fno-inline-functions-called-once -Wdeclaration-after-statement > > > -Wno-pointer-sign -fno-strict-overflow -fconserve-stack > > > -DCC_HAVE_ASM_GOTO -D"KBUILD_STR(s)=\#s" > > > -D"KBUILD_BASENAME=KBUILD_STR(do_mounts)" > > > -D"KBUILD_MODNAME=KBUILD_STR(mounts)" -c -o init/do_mounts.o > > > init/do_mounts.c > > > > > > contains a directive to build mounts.o, see second last line, but > > > it for some reason this is ignored. > > > Maybe there is a flaw in that command, only I can't find it. > > > > Neither can I. Is this command executed at all? If you maybe replace > > the 'gcc' by 'gccXXX', does this give an error? Or put an 'echo' in > > front of the gcc'. > > You can try 'make -d', this will give you LOTS of debug output, but I > > don't think you will see the actual commands then. > > > > Wonko > > > > Now at last there is some kind of "progress". Last thing I tried was > replacing my current .config with that of my previous kernel (3.2.1-r2) > and at least the make ran all the way up to the point where it should > link everything to build vmlinux, only now it tells me it couldn't > find vmlinux.o. > > The last couple of lines from the make output: > > CC arch/x86/lib/cache-smp.o > CC arch/x86/lib/msr.o > AS arch/x86/lib/msr-reg.o > CC arch/x86/lib/msr-reg-export.o > AS arch/x86/lib/iomap_copy_64.o > LD arch/x86/lib/built-in.o > ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o arch/x86/lib/built-in.o > arch/x86/lib/msr-smp.o arch/x86/lib/cache-smp.o arch/x86/lib/msr.o > arch/x86/lib/msr-reg.o arch/x86/lib/msr-reg-export.o > arch/x86/lib/iomap_copy_64.o > AS arch/x86/lib/clear_page_64.o > AS arch/x86/lib/cmpxchg16b_emu.o > AS arch/x86/lib/copy_page_64.o > AS arch/x86/lib/copy_user_64.o > AS arch/x86/lib/copy_user_nocache_64.o > AS arch/x86/lib/csum-copy_64.o > CC arch/x86/lib/csum-partial_64.o > CC arch/x86/lib/csum-wrappers_64.o > CC arch/x86/lib/delay.o > AS arch/x86/lib/getuser.o > GEN arch/x86/lib/inat-tables.c > CC arch/x86/lib/inat.o > CC arch/x86/lib/insn.o > AS arch/x86/lib/memcpy_64.o > AS arch/x86/lib/memmove_64.o > AS arch/x86/lib/memset_64.o > AS arch/x86/lib/putuser.o > AS arch/x86/lib/rwlock.o > AS arch/x86/lib/rwsem.o > AS arch/x86/lib/thunk_64.o > CC arch/x86/lib/usercopy.o > CC arch/x86/lib/usercopy_64.o > AR arch/x86/lib/lib.a > LD vmlinux.o > ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o vmlinux.o arch/x86/kernel/head_64.o > arch/x86/kernel/head64.o arch/x86/kernel/head.o > arch/x86/kernel/init_task.o init/built-in.o --start-group > usr/built-in.o arch/x86/built-in.o kernel/built-in.o mm/built-in.o > fs/built-in.o ipc/built-in.o security/built-in.o crypto/built-in.o > block/built-in.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
on 2012-05-14 at 08:52 ny6...@gmail.com wrote: >9. DO NOT TOP-POST and DO trim your replies!!! why don't you observe these yourself? you quoted the whole message you replied to, which itself contained another full quote, which itself... many people here complain against top-posting, but few observe the "DO trim your replies" rule. see below, from your own post: >Posting a "me too" comment at the bottom of a 100+ line message is no >better because people, have to scroll all the way down through 100+ lines >they've already read in order to see your one-liner. One word comes to >mind for that: frustrating.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
on 2012-05-14 at 22:54 Alan McKinnon wrote: > (getting old...) you don't say, really? what a coincidence, it's happening to me too. anyone else getting older around here? is anyone actually getting *younger*?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 08:18:32AM -0300, luis jure wrote: > on 2012-05-14 at 08:52 ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > > >9. DO NOT TOP-POST and DO trim your replies!!! > > why don't you observe these yourself? you quoted the whole message you > replied to, which itself contained another full quote, which itself... > > many people here complain against top-posting, but few observe the "DO > trim your replies" rule. see below, from your own post: > > >Posting a "me too" comment at the bottom of a 100+ line message is no > >better because people, have to scroll all the way down through 100+ lines > >they've already read in order to see your one-liner. One word comes to > >mind for that: frustrating. > Thank you for the timely reminder. It _was_ an error on my part. Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails [SOLVED]
Hi all, I promised to tell you when I cracked this nasty little problem of mine, though it's somewhat embarrassing for me: in short, don't put shell scripts called ld or cc in your /usr/local/bin. I had an ld script to give me lists of directories in a certain format and then forgot about its existence, until I had the happy idea to type 'ld' on the command line to see what would happen. at least now I know that I've really grown old. again, thank you for all your efforts to help me. kind regards, michael