Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-15 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 15 December 2006 10:08, Roman Naumann wrote:
> Hi, I`m using Sabayon currently. (For those of you who don`t know about it:
> It`s a full compatible Gentoo port (Thus, actually just a overlay based
> pre-installation)) Unfortunately, the cursor speed is set very slow by
> default. How can I change it? In which config file does the option hide?

As root:
kbdrate -s -r 30 -d 250

If you put that into /etc/conf.d/local.start it will switch your keyboard to 
the highest speed possible.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-15 Thread Roman Naumann

On 12/15/06, Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


As root:
kbdrate -s -r 30 -d 250

If you put that into /etc/conf.d/local.start it will switch your keyboard
to
the highest speed possible.

Uwe



Thanks, thanks. :-)
The Gentoo community is really great, that is fast and precise.

By the way:
"Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective."
I don't get the 'joke?' in your signature...


Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-15 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 15 December 2006 12:29, Roman Naumann wrote:

> By the way:
> "Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective."
> I don't get the 'joke?' in your signature...

Declination of German adjectives is rather difficult for non-native speakers. 
So Mark Twain found it easier not to accept two drinks than decline a German 
adjective - which is rather telling since Twain usually never declined any 
drink. ;-)

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 15 December 2006 04:29, "Roman Naumann" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting 
the cursor speed in the terminal':
> "Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective."
> I don't get the 'joke?' in your signature...

It's a pun on the word decline.  Mr. Twain (known mainly for his books) is 
using two meanings on the word decline simultaneously.  1. to refuse and 
2. the alter a noun or adjective to indicate it's role in a sentence, only 
used in some languages.  It's rather creative but I found it a little 
confusing.  I only speak English with any proficiency and it doesn't 
decline adjectives; I'm guessing German does.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 December 2006 15:05, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> It's a pun on the word decline.  Mr. Twain (known mainly for his
> books) is using two meanings on the word decline simultaneously.  1.
> to refuse and 2. the alter a noun or adjective to indicate it's role
> in a sentence, only used in some languages.  It's rather creative but
> I found it a little confusing.  I only speak English with any
> proficiency and it doesn't decline adjectives; I'm guessing German
> does.

According to German friends of mine, it not only does, but tries to 
handle every possible case that could ever come up anywhere, anytime.

If you look at the rules of German grammar, you get a distinct feeling 
that the designers of C++ tried their very best to emulate German in a 
programming language.

And failed. Badly.

:-)

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-15 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 15 December 2006 15:38, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> According to German friends of mine, it not only does, but tries to
> handle every possible case that could ever come up anywhere, anytime.

A quick case study. The adjective is "mager" (thin or skinny).

Male base form   comparative
   
Nominative   der magere Mann   der magerere Mann
Genitivedes mageren Mannes des magereren Mannes
Dative   dem mageren Manne dem magereren Mann
Accusativeden mageren Mannden magereren Mann

Female
Nominativedie magere Frau die magerere Frau
Genitive der mageren Frau  der magereren Frau
Dativeder mageren Frau  der magereren Frau
Accusative die magere Frau die magerere Frau

Neuter
Nominative das magere Kinddas magerere Kind
Genetive des mageren Kindes  des magereren Kindes
Dative dem mageren Kind dem magereren Kind
Accusative  das magere Kinddas magerere Kind

Well, it isn't all that bad, actually. But then again, imagine you have to do 
that in real time in speech. It can be very hard on your brain if you haven't 
grown up with it.

All in all, there are things in German that are far worse than adjective. Like 
capitalising or verbs - regular verbs, that is. Maybe, I should change my 
signature soon. ;-) In his book "A Tramp Abroad", Mark Twain wrote a whole 
chapter about how difficult German was - and he went into much detail about 
verbs. Unfortunately, there isn't a single sentence with a good pun about it 
that qualifies for a signature.

>
> If you look at the rules of German grammar, you get a distinct feeling
> that the designers of C++ tried their very best to emulate German in a
> programming language.

Alan, my South African brother, you are not talking about C++ but about Ada. 
C++ wasn't invented by a committee but by a single person. It's rather easy. 
If you stick to a couple of conventions (*not* rules) it's very readable even 
without comments. Ada, on the other hand,...

Yes yes yes. Let's start a flamewar about programming languages. I love them. 
Better than SciFi. ;-)

Uwe
(who avoids perl and does almost everything either in C++ or bash scripting)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-16 Thread Roman Naumann
Thanks for all your explanations, but the funny thing is that I am German. :D
I just didn't know about the two different meanings of the word "decline", 
what is rather embarassing due to the fact that I learned (or had to lean) 
Latin. Every word starting with "de(c/k)la..." should make me remember 
declanations immediately.

Latin has the four cases Nominative, Genitive, Dative, Accusative and 
additionally the Vocative and the Ablative. I haven't seen any other 
languages with six cases. As you can imagine, it's quite tiring to learn 
Latin. :-\

Another quick case study: ["magnus" large]


Male base form singular
Nominative  magnus
Genitive   magni
Dative  magno
Accusative   magnum
Vocativemange
Ablative   mango

Male base form plural
Nominative  magni
Genitive   magnorum
Dative  magnis
Accusative   magnos
Vocativemangi
Ablative   mangis

There are, as in German, three genders: male, female and neutral.
What makes declining latin adjectives more difficuilt is imho the number of 
different declanations. Have a look at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_declension if you wanna get overwhelmed by 
complexity. :-)

Hehe.. this might become a flamewar of languages instead of programming 
languages. :D

@Uwe Thiem
Are you also German? You name sounds quite as if you're.

On Friday 15 December 2006 17:02, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> On 15 December 2006 15:38, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > According to German friends of mine, it not only does, but tries to
> > handle every possible case that could ever come up anywhere, anytime.
>
> A quick case study. The adjective is "mager" (thin or skinny).
>
> Male base form   comparative
> Nominative   der magere Mann   der magerere Mann
> Genitivedes mageren Mannes des magereren Mannes
> Dative   dem mageren Manne dem magereren Mann
> Accusativeden mageren Mannden magereren Mann
>
> Female
> Nominativedie magere Frau die magerere Frau
> Genitive der mageren Frau  der magereren Frau
> Dativeder mageren Frau  der magereren Frau
> Accusative die magere Frau die magerere Frau
>
> Neuter
> Nominative das magere Kinddas magerere Kind
> Genetive des mageren Kindes  des magereren Kindes
> Dative dem mageren Kind dem magereren Kind
> Accusative  das magere Kinddas magerere Kind
>
> Well, it isn't all that bad, actually. But then again, imagine you have to
> do that in real time in speech. It can be very hard on your brain if you
> haven't grown up with it.
>
> All in all, there are things in German that are far worse than adjective.
> Like capitalising or verbs - regular verbs, that is. Maybe, I should change
> my signature soon. ;-) In his book "A Tramp Abroad", Mark Twain wrote a
> whole chapter about how difficult German was - and he went into much detail
> about verbs. Unfortunately, there isn't a single sentence with a good pun
> about it that qualifies for a signature.
>
> > If you look at the rules of German grammar, you get a distinct feeling
> > that the designers of C++ tried their very best to emulate German in a
> > programming language.
>
> Alan, my South African brother, you are not talking about C++ but about
> Ada. C++ wasn't invented by a committee but by a single person. It's rather
> easy. If you stick to a couple of conventions (*not* rules) it's very
> readable even without comments. Ada, on the other hand,...
>
> Yes yes yes. Let's start a flamewar about programming languages. I love
> them. Better than SciFi. ;-)
>
> Uwe
> (who avoids perl and does almost everything either in C++ or bash
> scripting)
>
> --
> Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective.
> http://www.SysEx.com.na
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Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-16 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 16 December 2006 17:47, Roman Naumann wrote:

> Latin has the four cases Nominative, Genitive, Dative, Accusative and
> additionally the Vocative and the Ablative. I haven't seen any other
> languages with six cases. 

Russian.

> @Uwe Thiem
> Are you also German? You name sounds quite as if you're.

Well, yes, I was born there. Have been living in Africa for so long by now 
that I don't consider myself German anymore. ;-)

On the other, there are living about 20,000 German speaking people in Namibia.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-16 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

Latin has the four cases Nominative, Genitive, Dative, Accusative and
additionally the Vocative and the Ablative. I haven't seen any other
languages with six cases. As you can imagine, it's quite tiring to learn
Latin. :-\


Just for your information.
There are languages with more cases for example the Czech language
with 7, and the Finnsih language even uses 15 cases.

I can't provide a case study for this languages, as i am German too,
but Google brought up this links for those who are interested.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tschechische_Sprache
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_language
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnische_Sprache
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language
http://www.helsinki-info.de/sprache.htm

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Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-16 Thread Roman Naumann
On Saturday 16 December 2006 17:51, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> Just for your information.
> There are languages with more cases for example the Czech language
> with 7, and the Finnsih language even uses 15 cases.

That's quite impressive. I guess it's a great advantage if you learn such 
languages as such as a native language. You can't be shocked by a second 
language's grammar easily then. :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Adjusting the cursor speed in the terminal

2006-12-16 Thread Tony Stohne
On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:00, Roman Naumann wrote:
> On Saturday 16 December 2006 17:51, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> > Just for your information.
> > There are languages with more cases for example the Czech language
> > with 7, and the Finnsih language even uses 15 cases.
>
Try Hungarian - A language that has a lot to it...
The URL below describes 23 cases used in that language alone... ouch ;)

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-grammatical-cases


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