Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Hans-Werner Hilse napsal(a): Hi, On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:07:52 +0100 (CET) paulie.x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a unicode-aware terminal program. It is not true because I'm already using UNICODE in terminal. Just man pages are still displayed worst. When I uncompressed one local man page and viewed raw text (cat man.1 | less) in my terminal, I can see correct UNICODE characters (among format sequences). Did you read the comment in man.conf? It says there is a problem with double conversion to unicode but basically tells to use nroff -mandoc without -T option for utf-8 output. Sorry, but these are all my suggestions left... -hwh OK. This is in /etc/man.conf: -- ... # Useful paths - note that COL should not be defined when # NROFF is defined as groff -Tascii or groff -Tlatin1; # not only is it superfluous, but it actually damages the output. # For use with utf-8, NROFF should be nroff -mandoc without -T option. # (Maybe - but today I need -Tlatin1 to prevent double conversion to utf8.) # # If you have a new troff (version 1.18.1?) and its colored output # causes problems, add the -c option to TROFF, NROFF, JNROFF. # TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tps -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc JNROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tnippon -mandocj EQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tps NEQN/usr/bin/geqn -Tlatin1 JNEQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tnippon TBL /usr/bin/gtbl # COL /usr/bin/col REFER /usr/bin/refer PIC /usr/bin/pic VGRIND GRAP PAGER /usr/bin/less -is BROWSER /usr/bin/less -is HTMLPAGER /bin/cat CAT /bin/cat ... -- Original gives for czech (cs_CZ.UTF-8 locale) word zformátuje: with origianl settings: zformAituje I tried this changes: NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc but all gives zformátuje. Maybe this is just some stupid and irrelevant problem. But I think that good localization and i18n of Gentoo will be good for linux on desktops ( show that linux can do it ;] ). And probably I'm not such a good programmer to find others mistakes (But I'm interested to know the cause). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Hans-Werner Hilse napsal(a): Hi, On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:07:52 +0100 (CET) paulie.x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a unicode-aware terminal program. It is not true because I'm already using UNICODE in terminal. Just man pages are still displayed worst. When I uncompressed one local man page and viewed raw text (cat man.1 | less) in my terminal, I can see correct UNICODE characters (among format sequences). Did you read the comment in man.conf? It says there is a problem with double conversion to unicode but basically tells to use nroff -mandoc without -T option for utf-8 output. Sorry, but these are all my suggestions left... -hwh OK. This is in /etc/man.conf: -- ... # Useful paths - note that COL should not be defined when # NROFF is defined as groff -Tascii or groff -Tlatin1; # not only is it superfluous, but it actually damages the output. # For use with utf-8, NROFF should be nroff -mandoc without -T option. # (Maybe - but today I need -Tlatin1 to prevent double conversion to utf8.) # # If you have a new troff (version 1.18.1?) and its colored output # causes problems, add the -c option to TROFF, NROFF, JNROFF. # TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tps -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc JNROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tnippon -mandocj EQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tps NEQN/usr/bin/geqn -Tlatin1 JNEQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tnippon TBL /usr/bin/gtbl # COL /usr/bin/col REFER /usr/bin/refer PIC /usr/bin/pic VGRIND GRAP PAGER /usr/bin/less -is BROWSER /usr/bin/less -is HTMLPAGER /bin/cat CAT /bin/cat ... -- Original gives for czech (cs_CZ.UTF-8 locale) word zformátuje: with origianl settings: zformAituje I tried this changes: NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc but all gives zformátuje. Maybe this is just some stupid and irrelevant problem. But I think that good localization and i18n of Gentoo will be good for linux on desktops ( show that linux can do it ;] ). And probably I'm not such a good programmer to find others mistakes (But I'm interested to know the cause). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
On Thursday 22 February 2007 20:38:02 jcd wrote:
I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8. I
re-encoded several files and several filenames. But my man-pages are
still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console even in X
terminal emulator. I unmerged package (with local man pages
'app-i18n/man-pages-cs'), deleted distfile and again merged but it
remained same. So I had uncompressed one local man page and looked into
raw text and there it is all right. I tried to changed line in
/etc/make.conf:
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
to
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc
and also according to comments to
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc.
In both cases result was same. Also I have correct fonts for my language
and unicode use flag defined.
This thing is covered by [1]. It goes to man.conf. Not make.conf.
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
On Thursday 22 February 2007 23:14, paulie.x wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
Hi.
I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
But my man-pages are
still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console even in X
terminal emulator.
I tried to changed line in
/etc/make.conf:
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
I don't have a line that looks anything like that in my make.conf
to
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc
1) Those lines aren't the correct format for make.conf. Normally,
you'd
use something like:
VARIABLE=value
2) NROFF isn't a valid make.conf variable. See the make.conf(5)
manpage
for a list of valid make.conf variables.
I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but I think it's more
likely controlled by an nroff USE flag or configuration file than a
portage configuration files.
OK. If it isn't correct format and NROFF isn't valid variable, then it is
bug in gentoo package, because I just changed the parameters to
/usr/bin/nroff. I also didn't find any suitale USE flag.
It's possible that you need to add this variable to some file
under /etc/env.d, or perhaps add a global alias and/or function
in /etc/profile.d, or maybe an nroff or man or other package configuration
file. I suppose make.conf could be used, but I'm fairly certain those
variables aren't guaranteed to filter down to any subprocesses -- they are
only meant to affect the behavior of ebuilds.
In /etc/env.d or /etc/make.conf you'll use the VARIABLE=value syntax.
In /etc/profile.d anything bash can handle will work. For another
configuration file, it might be totally different.
In any case, most packages don't provide a generic way to modify their
default
parameters (via environment variables or anything else), and I would guess
that setting the NROFF variable to some value wouldn't actually change the
way the nroff binary worked (but it could!).
It could very well be a bug but, you are going to have to be more specific
about the behavior you are trying to achieve with that make.conf setting.
Feel free to file at b.g.o. if you think this is a failing of the package
or
the portage system.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
On Thursday 22 February 2007 23:14, paulie.x wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
Hi.
I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
But my man-pages are
still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console even in X
terminal emulator.
I tried to changed line in
/etc/make.conf:
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
I don't have a line that looks anything like that in my make.conf
to
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc
1) Those lines aren't the correct format for make.conf. Normally,
you'd
use something like:
VARIABLE=value
2) NROFF isn't a valid make.conf variable. See the make.conf(5)
manpage
for a list of valid make.conf variables.
I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but I think it's more
likely controlled by an nroff USE flag or configuration file than a
portage configuration files.
OK. If it isn't correct format and NROFF isn't valid variable, then it is
bug in gentoo package, because I just changed the parameters to
/usr/bin/nroff. I also didn't find any suitale USE flag.
It's possible that you need to add this variable to some file
under /etc/env.d, or perhaps add a global alias and/or function
in /etc/profile.d, or maybe an nroff or man or other package configuration
file. I suppose make.conf could be used, but I'm fairly certain those
variables aren't guaranteed to filter down to any subprocesses -- they are
only meant to affect the behavior of ebuilds.
In /etc/env.d or /etc/make.conf you'll use the VARIABLE=value syntax.
In /etc/profile.d anything bash can handle will work. For another
configuration file, it might be totally different.
In any case, most packages don't provide a generic way to modify their
default
parameters (via environment variables or anything else), and I would guess
that setting the NROFF variable to some value wouldn't actually change the
way the nroff binary worked (but it could!).
It could very well be a bug but, you are going to have to be more specific
about the behavior you are trying to achieve with that make.conf setting.
Feel free to file at b.g.o. if you think this is a failing of the package
or
the portage system.
I just confused man.conf with make.conf... I meant man.conf in all messages.
Sorry
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Hi,
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:27:08 -0600 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 22 February 2007 23:14, paulie.x wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
Hi.
I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
But my man-pages are
still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console
even in X terminal emulator.
I tried to changed line in
/etc/make.conf:
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
I don't have a line that looks anything like that in my make.conf
No, the poster most definitely meant to write man.conf instead of
make.conf.
That would be correct.
But his output looks like he already gets UTF-8 out of man. He just
borked his terminal settings or is running a non-Unicode terminal.
Otherwise, there would just be one glyph for an unrecognized code
sequence, plus probably the following char being eaten.
So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set
consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a
unicode-aware terminal program.
-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Hans-Werner Hilse napsal(a):
Hi,
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:27:08 -0600 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 22 February 2007 23:14, paulie.x wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
Hi.
I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
But my man-pages are
still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console
even in X terminal emulator.
I tried to changed line in
/etc/make.conf:
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
I don't have a line that looks anything like that in my make.conf
No, the poster most definitely meant to write man.conf instead of
make.conf.
That would be correct.
But his output looks like he already gets UTF-8 out of man. He just
borked his terminal settings or is running a non-Unicode terminal.
Otherwise, there would just be one glyph for an unrecognized code
sequence, plus probably the following char being eaten.
So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set
consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a
unicode-aware terminal program.
-hwh
It is not true because I'm already using UNICODE in terminal. Just man pages
are still displayed worst. When I uncompressed one local man page and viewed
raw text (cat man.1 | less) in my terminal, I can see correct UNICODE
characters (among format sequences). Also in
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml is defined approach how to update
man.conf to work with UNICODE (changing NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c
-mandoc to NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc). I already tried it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Hi, On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:07:52 +0100 (CET) paulie.x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a unicode-aware terminal program. It is not true because I'm already using UNICODE in terminal. Just man pages are still displayed worst. When I uncompressed one local man page and viewed raw text (cat man.1 | less) in my terminal, I can see correct UNICODE characters (among format sequences). Did you read the comment in man.conf? It says there is a problem with double conversion to unicode but basically tells to use nroff -mandoc without -T option for utf-8 output. Sorry, but these are all my suggestions left... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Hans-Werner Hilse napsal(a): Hi, On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:07:52 +0100 (CET) paulie.x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a unicode-aware terminal program. It is not true because I'm already using UNICODE in terminal. Just man pages are still displayed worst. When I uncompressed one local man page and viewed raw text (cat man.1 | less) in my terminal, I can see correct UNICODE characters (among format sequences). Did you read the comment in man.conf? It says there is a problem with double conversion to unicode but basically tells to use nroff -mandoc without -T option for utf-8 output. Sorry, but these are all my suggestions left... -hwh OK. This is in /etc/man.conf: -- ... # Useful paths - note that COL should not be defined when # NROFF is defined as groff -Tascii or groff -Tlatin1; # not only is it superfluous, but it actually damages the output. # For use with utf-8, NROFF should be nroff -mandoc without -T option. # (Maybe - but today I need -Tlatin1 to prevent double conversion to utf8.) # # If you have a new troff (version 1.18.1?) and its colored output # causes problems, add the -c option to TROFF, NROFF, JNROFF. # TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tps -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc JNROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tnippon -mandocj EQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tps NEQN/usr/bin/geqn -Tlatin1 JNEQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tnippon TBL /usr/bin/gtbl # COL /usr/bin/col REFER /usr/bin/refer PIC /usr/bin/pic VGRIND GRAP PAGER /usr/bin/less -is BROWSER /usr/bin/less -is HTMLPAGER /bin/cat CAT /bin/cat ... -- Original gives for czech (cs_CZ.UTF-8 locale) word zformátuje: with origianl settings: zformAituje I tried this changes: NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc but all gives zformátuje. Maybe this is just some stupid and irrelevant problem. But I think that good localization and i18n of Gentoo will be good for linux on desktops ( show that linux can do it ;] ). And probably I'm not such a good programmer to find others mistakes (But I'm interested to know the cause). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
Hi.
I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
But my man-pages are
still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console even in X
terminal emulator.
I tried to changed line in
/etc/make.conf:
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
to
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc
and also according to comments to
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc.
1) Those lines aren't the correct format for make.conf. Normally, you'd
use something like:
VARIABLE=value
2) NROFF isn't a valid make.conf variable. See the make.conf(5) manpage
for a list of valid make.conf variables.
I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but I think it's more
likely controlled by an nroff USE flag or configuration file than a
portage configuration files.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
Hi.
I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
But my man-pages are
still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console even in X
terminal emulator.
I tried to changed line in
/etc/make.conf:
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
to
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc
and also according to comments to
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc.
1) Those lines aren't the correct format for make.conf. Normally, you'd
use something like:
VARIABLE=value
2) NROFF isn't a valid make.conf variable. See the make.conf(5) manpage
for a list of valid make.conf variables.
I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but I think it's more
likely controlled by an nroff USE flag or configuration file than a
portage configuration files.
OK. If it isn't correct format and NROFF isn't valid variable, then it is bug
in gentoo package, because I just changed the parameters to /usr/bin/nroff. I
also didn't find any suitale USE flag.
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