Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt-unicode has no transparency right after upgrade

[fei huang]

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Keith Dart  wrote:

> === On Sat, 11/20, Willie Wong wrote: ===
> > If that were indeed the case (that they are forcing migration away
> > from pseudotransparency and into real transparency), then it'd have
> > been nice if the +/-tr tags throw some error text rather than just
> > being silently ignored.
>
> ===
>
> I did some experimenting. It seems the newest version has the
> copy-background-to-pixmap method overriding true transparency if that
> is set by the resources. That's the opposite of the way it used to be,
> but otherwise works. I just had to remove the other background
> settings, such as .inheritPixmap and .tintColor, and it works again.
>
> I'm afraid I do not quite understand how to make it work, removed all
transparency settings in Xresources already.
I review the source code and found nothing special, no
copy-background-to-pixmap method or the like.

thanks

>
> -- Keith Dart
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt-unicode has no transparency right after upgrade

[Keith Dart]

=== On Sat, 11/20, Willie Wong wrote: ===
> If that were indeed the case (that they are forcing migration away
> from pseudotransparency and into real transparency), then it'd have
> been nice if the +/-tr tags throw some error text rather than just 
> being silently ignored. 

===

I did some experimenting. It seems the newest version has the
copy-background-to-pixmap method overriding true transparency if that
is set by the resources. That's the opposite of the way it used to be,
but otherwise works. I just had to remove the other background
settings, such as .inheritPixmap and .tintColor, and it works again.


-- Keith Dart

-- 

-- ~
   Keith Dart 
   public key: ID: 19017044
   
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Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt-unicode has no transparency right after upgrade

[Willie Wong]

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:04:10AM -0800, Keith Dart wrote:
> I had previously used method 3, with an entry in my ~/.Xdefaults for
> it, that worked fine. It stopped for some reason with this new version.
> I suspect they may have removed the "hacks" they talked about and now
> depend on a properly functioning window manager. I am using xfwm4 with
> compositing enabled. Setting the property now works with it.

If that were indeed the case (that they are forcing migration away
from pseudotransparency and into real transparency), then it'd have
been nice if the +/-tr tags throw some error text rather than just 
being silently ignored. 

Cheers, 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton

Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt-unicode has no transparency right after upgrade

[Willie Wong]

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:36:01AM +0800, fei huang wrote:
> ok, everything is back to normal again, I downgraded my rxvt-unicode to
> 9.07-r2 and it worked as before. shall I report a bug or maybe I still
> missed something?
> 

Go ahead and file a bug, but as pseudotransparency was never
officially supported by rxvt-unicode (see their FAQ on it), I'm not
sure if upstream will actually fix it. 

Cheers, 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton

Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt-unicode has no transparency right after upgrade

[fei huang]

ok, everything is back to normal again, I downgraded my rxvt-unicode to
9.07-r2 and it worked as before. shall I report a bug or maybe I still
missed something?

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:11 AM, fei huang wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Willie Wong wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 07:58:01PM +0800, fei huang wrote:
>> >I upgraded rxvt-unicode within just one or two days, right after a
>> > upgrade to version 9.09,
>> >
>> > it does not support transparency any more, but my Xresources had been
>> always
>> > working for me.
>> >
>> >
>> > post a snippet of my config file here, thanks.
>> >
>> > URxvt.transparent:true
>> > URxvt.shading:20
>> > URxvt.tintColor:gray90
>>
>> (1) To trouble shoot: is this an issue of Xresources or is this an
>> issue with urxvt itself?
>>
>
>> Does 'urxvt -tr -tint gra90 -sh 20' work?
>>
>>
> I'd say this is the issue with urxvt propabably, since the Xresources has
> worked quite a long time for me.  I'm afraid the command line did not work.
>
> (2) For pseudotransparency and tinting etc you need libafterimage
>> installed and with rxvt-unicode built against it, look at
>>  'emerge -pv rxvt-unicode'
>> did you enable the afterimage USE?
>>
>
> I did emerge rxvt-unicode without the afterimage use flag, but there was no
> effect after enable it. by the way, libafterimage seems to be a new package,
> I have't seen it before upgrading rxvt-unicode to the current 9.09 version.
>
>
> thanks a lot for your help anyway. I'm considering downgrade my
> rxvt-unicode to verify this problem.
>
>>
>> W
>> --
>> Willie W. Wong
>> ww...@math.princeton.edu
>> Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones
>> invenire
>> et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton
>>
>>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt-unicode has no transparency right after upgrade

[fei huang]

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Willie Wong wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 07:58:01PM +0800, fei huang wrote:
> >I upgraded rxvt-unicode within just one or two days, right after a
> > upgrade to version 9.09,
> >
> > it does not support transparency any more, but my Xresources had been
> always
> > working for me.
> >
> >
> > post a snippet of my config file here, thanks.
> >
> > URxvt.transparent:true
> > URxvt.shading:20
> > URxvt.tintColor:gray90
>
> (1) To trouble shoot: is this an issue of Xresources or is this an
> issue with urxvt itself?
>

> Does 'urxvt -tr -tint gra90 -sh 20' work?
>
>
I'd say this is the issue with urxvt propabably, since the Xresources has
worked quite a long time for me.  I'm afraid the command line did not work.

(2) For pseudotransparency and tinting etc you need libafterimage
> installed and with rxvt-unicode built against it, look at
>  'emerge -pv rxvt-unicode'
> did you enable the afterimage USE?
>

I did emerge rxvt-unicode without the afterimage use flag, but there was no
effect after enable it. by the way, libafterimage seems to be a new package,
I have't seen it before upgrading rxvt-unicode to the current 9.09 version.


thanks a lot for your help anyway. I'm considering downgrade my rxvt-unicode
to verify this problem.

>
> W
> --
> Willie W. Wong
> ww...@math.princeton.edu
> Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
> et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt-unicode has no transparency right after upgrade

[Willie Wong]

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 07:58:01PM +0800, fei huang wrote:
>I upgraded rxvt-unicode within just one or two days, right after a
> upgrade to version 9.09,
> 
> it does not support transparency any more, but my Xresources had been always
> working for me.
> 
> 
> post a snippet of my config file here, thanks.
> 
> URxvt.transparent:true
> URxvt.shading:20
> URxvt.tintColor:gray90

(1) To trouble shoot: is this an issue of Xresources or is this an
issue with urxvt itself? 

Does 'urxvt -tr -tint gra90 -sh 20' work?

(2) For pseudotransparency and tinting etc you need libafterimage
installed and with rxvt-unicode built against it, look at 
  'emerge -pv rxvt-unicode'
did you enable the afterimage USE?

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton