Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
At Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:07:10 +0100 Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:38:50 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> Note that users should place their customized local changes in the >> /etc/portage directory, creating any needed files listed below that >> do not exist. > > Local changes go in /etc/make.conf, per-package changes go > in /etc/portage/. Correct. How about (4 blank indent is from man portage; 2 blank indent is new). allan The current portage code uses many different configuration files, most of which are unknown to users and normal developers. Here we will try to collect all the odds and ends so as to help users more effectively utilize portage. This is a reference only for files which do not already have a man page. Note that users should place in make.conf local changes that are to apply to all emerges; per-package changes belong in the /etc/portage directory, creating any needed files listed below that do not exist. The files are listed in increasing order of priority. The make.profile directory, which is a symlink into the /usr/portage tree, is for system defaults. Like all of the /usr/portage tree, these files are overwritten when an emerge sync is performed. Hence users normally do *not* alter these files. All files in the make.profile directory may be tweaked via parent pro- files when using cascading profiles. For more info, please see http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/docs/cascading-profiles.xml -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:38:50 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > Note that users should place their customized local changes in the > /etc/portage directory, creating any needed files listed below that > do not exist. Local changes go in /etc/make.conf, per-package changes go in /etc/portage/. -- Neil Bothwick Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
At Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:02:35 +0100 Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:43:01 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> make.profile is for devs to make default system changes > > make.conf is for users to make customised system changes > >> /etc/portage/* is for users to make customized local changes > > In increasing order of priority. OK. Here are proposed words. The two paragraphs indented 4 spaces are the first two paragraphs of the existing man page; the middle paragraph is new. I did not know neil's comment on priority, but trust his memory and included the comment in the proposed addition. My proposal is to file an enhancement documentation bug. allan The current portage code uses many different configuration files, most of which are unknown to users and normal developers. Here we will try to collect all the odds and ends so as to help users more effectively utilize portage. This is a reference only for files which do not already have a man page. Note that users should place their customized local changes in the /etc/portage directory, creating any needed files listed below that do not exist. The files are listed in increasing order of priority. The make.profile directory, which is a symlink into the /usr/portage tree, is for system defaults. Like all of the /usr/portage tree, these files are overwritten when an emerge sync is performed. Hence users normally do *not* alter these files. All files in the make.profile directory may be tweaked via parent pro- files when using cascading profiles. For more info, please see http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/docs/cascading-profiles.xml -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:43:01 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > make.profile is for devs to make default system changes make.conf is for users to make customised system changes > /etc/portage/* is for users to make customized local changes In increasing order of priority. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 21: "Now, then ..." signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
On Monday 23 July 2007, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > I was asking if some words should be at the very top of the man page > stating that /etc/make.profile is the place for user changes. It seems like you grasp it all, but just in case, here's the executive summary: make.profile is for devs to make default system changes /etc/portage/* is for users to make customized local changes alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
At Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:57:09 -0400 Mark Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/22/07, Allan Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Thank you. I was fooled by "man portage", but I should have know >> better. That is, I knew full well, but forgot, that /usr/profile is >> temporary and that user changes should be make in /etc/portage. >> Should I file a bug with proposed extra words for the beginning of the >> "portage" man page? >> -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list >> >> > the manpage for portage has both references to /etc/make.profile/ and > /etc/portage/ (it's in the synopsis): Sure, but it doesn't remind you that changing /etc/portage is the way to go. Indeed if you read the description for > /etc/make.profile/ > package.use.mask (given later in the man page) it sounds like a fine way to prevent a use flag from applying to a package. It is correct that > /etc/portage/ > package.use is also described and also seems like a fine way to prevent (or enable) a use flag from applying to a package. I was asking if some words should be at the very top of the man page stating that /etc/make.profile is the place for user changes. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
On 7/22/07, Allan Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:27:09 +0200 Dirk Heinrichs < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Samstag, 21. Juli 2007 schrieb Allan Gottlieb: > >> echo "dev-java/blackdown-jre nsplugin" >> >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask echo "dev-java/blackdown-jdk nsplugin" >> >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask echo "dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin >> nsplugin" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask > > No. /etc/make.profile is a softlink into the portage tree. What ever you > change there will be overwritten when you sync the tree next time. The > correct file is /etc/portage/package.use and the entry should be > > dev-java/blackdown-jdk -nsplugin > > And, this is only needed when you use this package. As long as it's not > installed on your system, you don't even need to worry. Thank you. I was fooled by "man portage", but I should have know better. That is, I knew full well, but forgot, that /usr/profile is temporary and that user changes should be make in /etc/portage. Should I file a bug with proposed extra words for the beginning of the "portage" man page? thanks again, allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list the manpage for portage has both references to /etc/make.profile/ and /etc/portage/ (it's in the synopsis): /etc/ make.globals make.conf(5) /etc/make.profile/ deprecated make.defaults packages packages.build package.provided package.use package.use.force package.use.mask parent profile.bashrc use.force use.mask virtuals /etc/portage/ bashrc modules package.keywords package.mask package.unmask package.use mirrors categories /etc/portage/profile/ site-specific overrides of /etc/make.profile/ /usr/portage/profiles/ arch.list categories info_pkgs info_vars package.mask profiles.desc thirdpartymirrors use.desc use.local.desc /var/cache/edb/ misc internal cache files /var/db/pkg/ database to track installed packages /var/lib/portage/ config world -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
At Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:27:09 +0200 Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Samstag, 21. Juli 2007 schrieb Allan Gottlieb: > >> echo "dev-java/blackdown-jre nsplugin" >> >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask echo "dev-java/blackdown-jdk nsplugin" >> >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask echo "dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin >> nsplugin" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask > > No. /etc/make.profile is a softlink into the portage tree. What ever you > change there will be overwritten when you sync the tree next time. The > correct file is /etc/portage/package.use and the entry should be > > dev-java/blackdown-jdk -nsplugin > > And, this is only needed when you use this package. As long as it's not > installed on your system, you don't even need to worry. Thank you. I was fooled by "man portage", but I should have know better. That is, I knew full well, but forgot, that /usr/profile is temporary and that user changes should be make in /etc/portage. Should I file a bug with proposed extra words for the beginning of the "portage" man page? thanks again, allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
Am Samstag, 21. Juli 2007 schrieb Allan Gottlieb: > Oops I forgot the nsplugin. Is this the correct way to prevent > nsplugin from being used for blackdown? > > echo "dev-java/blackdown-jre nsplugin" >> > /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask echo "dev-java/blackdown-jdk nsplugin" > >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask echo "dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin > nsplugin" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask No. /etc/make.profile is a softlink into the portage tree. What ever you change there will be overwritten when you sync the tree next time. The correct file is /etc/portage/package.use and the entry should be dev-java/blackdown-jdk -nsplugin And, this is only needed when you use this package. As long as it's not installed on your system, you don't even need to worry. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
At Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:11:53 -0400 Allan Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this mean that > > echo "dev-java/blackdown-jre" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask > echo "dev-java/blackdown-jdk" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask > echo "dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask > > makes adding nsplugin safe to add to make.conf? Oops I forgot the nsplugin. Is this the correct way to prevent nsplugin from being used for blackdown? echo "dev-java/blackdown-jre nsplugin" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask echo "dev-java/blackdown-jdk nsplugin" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask echo "dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin nsplugin" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask thanks, allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
At Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:52:23 +0200 Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: >> Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 16:41 schrieb Allan Gottlieb: >> > I notice that I have the nsplugin use flag UNset. use.desc says >> > >> > nsplugin - Builds plugins for Netscape compatible browsers >> > >> > Am I correct in believing that firefox is Netscape compatible and >> > hence that I should enable this use flag? >> > >> > thanks, >> > allan >> >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161835 >> >> In order to save you some time: There are unsolved security issues. > > ... with the blackdown java packages. > >> Do not use nsplugin. > > ... with the blackdown java packages. I noticed that as well in the bug report & discussion. Does this mean that echo "dev-java/blackdown-jre" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask echo "dev-java/blackdown-jdk" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask echo "dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin" >> /etc/make.profile/package.use.mask makes adding nsplugin safe to add to make.conf? thanks, allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: > Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 16:41 schrieb Allan Gottlieb: > > I notice that I have the nsplugin use flag UNset. use.desc says > > > > nsplugin - Builds plugins for Netscape compatible browsers > > > > Am I correct in believing that firefox is Netscape compatible and > > hence that I should enable this use flag? > > > > thanks, > > allan > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161835 > > In order to save you some time: There are unsolved security issues. ... with the blackdown java packages. > Do not use nsplugin. ... with the blackdown java packages. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
At Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:57:24 +0200 Florian Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 16:41 schrieb Allan Gottlieb: >> Am I correct in believing that firefox is Netscape compatible and >> hence that I should enable this use flag? > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161835 > > In order to save you some time: There are unsolved security > issues. Do not use nsplugin. Thanks. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the nsplugin use flag
Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 16:41 schrieb Allan Gottlieb: > I notice that I have the nsplugin use flag UNset. use.desc says > > nsplugin - Builds plugins for Netscape compatible browsers > > Am I correct in believing that firefox is Netscape compatible and > hence that I should enable this use flag? > > thanks, > allan http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161835 In order to save you some time: There are unsolved security issues. Do not use nsplugin. pgp0tLjSrmoBQ.pgp Description: PGP signature