Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: finally I've got to optimum (in my opinion) combination: title Gentoo linux (update) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 real_root=/dev/hda11 video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose You should also change real_root= to just root=. But I've got new problem - for some reason KDE (3.4.1) now hangs after login doing initialize peripherals or something like that... and it happens only when I switch to 2.6.12, weird... anybody seen symptoms like that? First time since I've switched to 2.6.x kernels I've got so many issues with simple kernel upgrade, is there something going on I should be aware of? Have not seen this. Might be related to DBUS or HAL support though. Do you get anything odd in ~/.xsession-errors? FYI, some scary looking messages in that file are completely normal! Also, on this list it is the standard to reply only to the list, and not to CC someone privately, unless specifically requested to do so. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 08:03 +0200, Richard Fish wrote: Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: happens only when I switch to 2.6.12, weird... anybody seen symptoms like that? First time since I've switched to 2.6.x kernels I've got so many issues with simple kernel upgrade, is there something going on I should be aware of? I've had this too. After switching over to 2.6.12 kernels, fbsplash doesn't work anymore and I don't even get my Tux on bootup :-( -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 14:12:35 up 1 day, 1:37, 5 users, load average: 1.13, 0.83, 0.78 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
For archiving purposes: I've finally fixed my machine up with as follows: 1. chosen kernel was 2.6.12-r5 as it fixes ugly bug with iptables which takes ages for applications to load. 2. configured grub without using initrd title Gentoo linux (update) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda11 video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose After doing all that system became usable again and boots with no glitch. Thanks everybody for help. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpxLnnGjhmkH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Zac Medico wrote: I heard there was a problem like that with gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r4 and iptables: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-userm=112129686806476 Im using the kernel with iptables - no problems. -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: I recently updated portage tree kernel and using usual genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all Have you tried building a kernel manually (i.e. without using genkernel)? -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: I recently updated portage tree kernel and using usual genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all produced unbootable system :( Symptoms point most probably to udev being used by default etc. Here's what I have in grub.conf: title Gentoo linux (updated) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose gentoo=nodevfs udev devfs=nomount initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n I've tried to follow those: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ But it doesn't look like it applies to my case or maybe I jumped too far ahead and udev is not fully supported yet? Here's what I get booting (I'm writing it from memory mostly so don't think it's exact output): -install: applet not found /init: 41: ln: not found /init: 45: cat: not found ... Loading modules /init: 172: touch: not found /init: 172: cat: not found /init: 172: sed: not found ... Activating udev /init: 178: mkdir: not found /sbin/udevstart: not found -=*something about not being able to mount root partition*=- (boot):: FOr the initrd/initramfs in =genkernel-3.2 you need CONFIG_FEATURE_INSTALLER enabled in the busybox config. You'll have to build a new busybox unless you want to use an older version of genkernel. For most people the initrd isn't required anyways. Are you just using it for splash? I think you can bypass the initrd in that case: root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n root=/dev/hda11 video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose gentoo=nodevfs udev devfs=nomount initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
On July 13, 2005 11:43 am, A. Khattri wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: I recently updated portage tree kernel and using usual genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all Have you tried building a kernel manually (i.e. without using genkernel)? Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags). -- Aj. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgp0EZXwjw5gs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: I recently updated portage tree kernel and using usual genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all produced unbootable system :( Symptoms point most probably to udev being used by default etc. Here's what I have in grub.conf: title Gentoo linux (updated) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose gentoo=nodevfs udev devfs=nomount initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n I've tried to follow those: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ But it doesn't look like it applies to my case or maybe I jumped too far ahead and udev is not fully supported yet? Well, udev is most definitly supported, since as of 2.6.12 devfs has been officially removed from the kernel. Ok, technically only the config option was removed, but you can expect that 2.6.13 will be released without any devfs at all. Here's what I get booting (I'm writing it from memory mostly so don't think it's exact output): -install: applet not found /init: 41: ln: not found /init: 45: cat: not found It looks to me like your /initramfs is completely screwed. Whatever created that missed copying a bunch of necessary utilities (or more likely, a dependant library) to the /initramfs. The /init messages you see are almost certainly from the /init script in the initramfs. Every line indicates it went to run a command, and either the command or a library wasn't found. I'm with Aj here...you need to skip genkernel and configure a kernel from scratch. Compile everything you need to boot (disk drivers, root filesystem driver, etc) into the kernel statically (not as a module!). Then get rid of the initrd line in grub, lose the real_root=, init=, splash=, gentoo=, and devfs= options on the kernel command line, and change the root= option to root=/dev/hda11. What a freakin' mess! -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: On July 13, 2005 11:43 am, A. Khattri wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: I recently updated portage tree kernel and using usual genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all Have you tried building a kernel manually (i.e. without using genkernel)? Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags). -- Aj. Hi, Have used both genkernel and manual-kernel-config, quite no problems with both (except genkernel on hardened ;) Think that you must manually give the options you want, ex.genkernel --menuconfig --udev --install --bootsplash all The manual one is easier, less options ;) see install guide, kernel compilation part. HTH. Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
Richard Fish wrote: Here's what I get booting (I'm writing it from memory mostly so don't think it's exact output): -install: applet not found /init: 41: ln: not found /init: 45: cat: not found It looks to me like your /initramfs is completely screwed. Whatever created that missed copying a bunch of necessary utilities (or more likely, a dependant library) to the /initramfs. The /init messages you see are almost certainly from the /init script in the initramfs. Every line indicates it went to run a command, and either the command or a library wasn't found. It's not as bad as it looks. I had the same problem. You simply need to enable CONFIG_FEATURE_INSTALLER in the busybox config. Then you can do busybox --install and it automatically creates hardlinks for all the enabled applets. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags). True, but a lot of people have had problems with genkernel that went away when they did a manual kernel build instead. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
A. Khattri wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags). True, but a lot of people have had problems with genkernel that went away when they did a manual kernel build instead. In this case the problem is in the initrd so I can guarantee he won't have the same problem if he doesn't use root=/dev/ram0 with a broken initrd ;-). Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
Zac Medico wrote: A. Khattri wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags). True, but a lot of people have had problems with genkernel that went away when they did a manual kernel build instead. In this case the problem is in the initrd so I can guarantee he won't have the same problem if he doesn't use root=/dev/ram0 with a broken initrd ;-). Not quite, its an initramfs. Slightly different rules apply for initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the initrd line from grub if you want to eliminate it. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
On July 13, 2005 02:47 pm, Richard Fish wrote: Not quite, its an initramfs. Slightly different rules apply for initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the initrd line from grub if you want to eliminate it. So if I understand correctly something like: title Gentoo linux (update) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose should produce desired results (i.e. bootable system)? If yes - I've got quite a few error messages about missing symbols in kernel modules on boot :( But I've tries so many combinations already that it could've been attributed to other changes I've made. So I'll try it again and come back if problem persists (or if you'll tell me my assumptions are wrong). -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpbWx32LOIKz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
On July 13, 2005 03:11 pm, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: On July 13, 2005 02:47 pm, Richard Fish wrote: Not quite, its an initramfs. Slightly different rules apply for initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the initrd line from grub if you want to eliminate it. So if I understand correctly something like: title Gentoo linux (update) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose finally I've got to optimum (in my opinion) combination: title Gentoo linux (update) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 real_root=/dev/hda11 video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose But I've got new problem - for some reason KDE (3.4.1) now hangs after login doing initialize peripherals or something like that... and it happens only when I switch to 2.6.12, weird... anybody seen symptoms like that? First time since I've switched to 2.6.x kernels I've got so many issues with simple kernel upgrade, is there something going on I should be aware of? -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpkQ2ZRdln06.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: On July 13, 2005 03:11 pm, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: On July 13, 2005 02:47 pm, Richard Fish wrote: Not quite, its an initramfs. Slightly different rules apply for initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the initrd line from grub if you want to eliminate it. So if I understand correctly something like: title Gentoo linux (update) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose finally I've got to optimum (in my opinion) combination: title Gentoo linux (update) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 real_root=/dev/hda11 video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose But I've got new problem - for some reason KDE (3.4.1) now hangs after login doing initialize peripherals or something like that... and it happens only when I switch to 2.6.12, weird... anybody seen symptoms like that? First time since I've switched to 2.6.x kernels I've got so many issues with simple kernel upgrade, is there something going on I should be aware of? I heard there was a problem like that with gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r4 and iptables: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-userm=112129686806476 Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
