Re: Invalid XML Entities included in metadata file

2013-03-22 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 06:17:23PM +, Ian W Taylor wrote:
>I think the problem is that get_iplayer uses HTML encode_entities()
>and there are about 250 entities defined in HTML but only 5 in the
>XML specification.  I've read that XML just defines " &
>' < and > for the "&'<> characters.  However the generic
>metadata XML file includes things like £ for the British? Pound
>sign in the description nodes.

I've had this problem too, and would like not to have to sanitise the
XML before reading it.

>Perhaps the problem is that a DTD used to be obtained from web site
>named in the 2nd line of the XML, but is no longer available ?
>xmlns="http://linuxcentre.net/xmlstuff/get_iplayer"; revision="1">

No, nothing specifically has to be at that URL; it's just a unique
identifier for the namespace.

R

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Re: Problems Downloading

2013-06-13 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 08:30:38PM +0100, Andy & Dawn wrote:
>I'm having exactly the same problem. The cache will refresh but
>nothing will download. I also have deleted and reloaded get_iplayer
>will no joy.

Have you updated swfurl, as mentioned in much of the recent list
traffic?

(Sorry to have to ask, but...)

Explanation and fix here:
https://github.com/dinkypumpkin/get_iplayer/wiki/swfurl

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Re: Massive Failure of Radio Download

2013-06-28 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20:19PM -0700, Chris J Brady wrote:
>Any ideas to get it working again? CJB

Use get_iplayer instead, or ask on a list that isn't dedicated to
get_iplayer?

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Re: Beebify now with unBLOCKr

2013-07-17 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:59:28AM +0100, Jonathan H wrote:
>For me, this was a useful message posted to an appropriate list

This isn't the general "how to download stuff from the BBC" list; it's
for get_iplayer. What does Beebify have to do with get_iplayer?


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Re: Netiquette - bottom posting - outdated?

2013-07-19 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:30:46AM +0100, Mark Rogers wrote:
>It was Outlook that
>(from memory) decided pretty unilaterally that top posting was the way
>to go

The ancestor of Outlook, an internal messaging system written as a
competitor to Novell's system and bought in by Microsoft, did this
because its back-end mail store (which became Exchange) was too
unreliable to assume users would have access to earlier messages. When
Outlook was turned into an Internet-facing product and hurriedly
bodged to follow (some) Internet standards, this decision wasn't
changed.

R

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Re: MP4 to MP3 (Video+Audio -> Audio)

2013-08-26 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 03:10:11PM +0100, get_ipla...@i.lucanops.net wrote:
>OT, I know, but this seems to happens a bit too often on this list. Can
>the list not insert a Reply-To: header? That would mean that for many
>people just hitting reply will send it to the list, not an individual.

Which is a worse error: accidentally to send a list message privately,
or accidentally to send a private message to everyone?

>It might be possible for individuals to set their email client to
>include the header too... but only for this mailing list (I don't think
>I've seen this exact feature in any email client, but no doubt it is out
>there).

Any standards-compliant email client will include a reply-to-list
feature which acts on the RFC2369 headers present in every email
message. I do not believe the list should encourage users of
non-standard clients.

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Re: can someone point me to the list instructions please ...

2013-08-30 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:10:56PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
>Did I miss anything?

That a standards-compliant modern MUA will also have a reply-to-list
function, which acts on the RFC2369 headers to direct a reply intended
forthe list to the right address.

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Re: iPlayer replacement ....

2013-09-07 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 09:08:41AM -0700, Chris J Brady wrote:
>Got this thread from another forum ...

We've heard plenty of doomsaying rumours before. Do you have an
official statement this time, or are you just trying to scare people?

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Re: Default options and PVR

2013-10-02 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 06:10:21PM +0100, Robert Snelling wrote:
>I would like there to be a GNU/Linux version or equivalent of
>Tubedigger, for non-BBC content. Any chance Dinkypumpkin or anyone
>else on this mailing list could create some such?

It's commercial and closed-source, so there's no possibility of
porting it. For many media sites, quvi will do the job, and doesn't
need flash at all.

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Re: BBC to charge licence payers ?5 to download favourite shows

2013-12-29 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 03:15:06AM -0800, Chris J Brady wrote:
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2530519/BBC-charge-licence-payers-5-download-favourite-shows-challenge-Netflix-iTunes.html

Meh, wait till it's in a newspaper.

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Re: Creating divx encoded files

2014-02-18 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 06:59:02PM +, Kapitano wrote:
>On 18/02/2014 18:32, Mark Evans wrote:
>>Is it possible to record tv files as div x rather than mp4?
>Correct me if I'm wrong, people but...isn't the DivX format a subset
>of the MPEG4 standard?

More or less. Mark, do you perhaps mean the AVI container format? What
exactly does your application require? (Knowing what it _is_ might be
helpful, too.)

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Re: Creating divx encoded files

2014-02-18 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:35:01PM +, Chris Dunne wrote:
>I have two (budget) TVs that both have USB ports and will play Xvid
>files (Divx5) when contained in AVI files fine but will not play mp4s
>directly.

Right, so what you need is to remux and potentially re-encode (if
they're in H.264). And since you say you can already

>convert them to Xvid,

you have a way of doing that already. (Presumably using
ffmpeg/avconv?)

So you just need to get that command into the --command option of
get_iplayer:

   --command, -c 
  Run  user  command after successful recording using args such as
  ,  etc

Does that seem to be pointing you in the right direction, or have I
misunderstood the nature of your problem?

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Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available

2014-10-30 Thread Roger Bell_West
If you're aiming to get something like PVR functionality, i.e.
downloading all episodes of a specific programme, what's working for
me is:

(for radio)

(1) Find the programme's overall PID (there's probably a proper name
for this, but I don't know it) within iPlayer. Start at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio and search for the programme name (using
the "Find a programme" disguised low-contrast search box, not the one
at the top of the page that actually looks like a search box). Or use
the A-Z list of programmes. In any case, the URL given for the
programme title will contain this overall PID.

e.g. the shipping forecast has b006qfvv .

(2) Build a URL from that using this template:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/$PID/episodes/player .

e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qfvv/episodes/player

(3) Bookmark that URL and load it each day, looking for new episodes.
(You might automate this. I couldn't possibly comment.) The episode
title will contain the individual episode PID.

e.g. as I write the most recent Shipping Forecast links to
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04mb103 .

(4) Download that PID with get_iplayer.

e.g. get_iplayer --metadata generic --type radio --pid b04mb103 --get

(If you're on Windows, do whatever you already do on the Windows
command line. I don't use it and can't help you.)

For television the process is similar, but the overall programme link
will be something like http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b006mj59
(for Top Gear) and you can omit the --type radio.

Roger

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Re: A message from Auntie

2014-10-31 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 09:08:26AM -, Trevor Campbell Davis wrote:
>It’s a pain, but I can easily manually source the PIDs of the
>programmes that I want on a daily basis.  What I don’t want (or have
>time) to do is to manually enter single command line instructions for
>each programme when the previous one has finished downloading.  So a
>script (resembling a queue) where I can enter multiple PIDs for
>automatic sequential download would be really helpful.

At the most basic level, you can just use the shell (this is for
bash):

for P in b00hslb0 b04mb11l b04mb6ck; do get_iplayer --type radio --metadata 
generic --pid $P --get; done

I have written a program to automate scraping, but I'm working on
getting it into a suitable form for release.

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Re: BBC messed up

2014-10-31 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 01:46:58PM +, Ray West wrote:
>It seems that bbc have altered in the last couple of days, and
>getiplayer does not work. Any chance of getiplayer being updated?

Please read recent list traffic where this has all been discussed at
some length. If you're new to the list, you could start at
http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2014-October/006240.html
.

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Re: BBC messed up

2014-10-31 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 02:46:03PM +, Charles Coyle wrote:
>Please could you tell me, are there any instructions on how to do this aimed 
>at a complete beginner as I'm new to the program?

Here's what I now do:

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2014-October/006299.html


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Re: is get_iplayer dead?

2014-11-02 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 09:56:29AM +, Anthony Griffiths wrote:
>what's the situation? is there a replacement program that works?
>thanks for  any advice.

Please read recent list traffic where this has all been discussed at
some length. If you're new to the list, you could start at
http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2014-October/006240.html
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Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules

2014-11-02 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 08:52:09AM +, Chris Allison wrote:
>some good ideas there, but there is no need to scrape the web pages
>when all the schedule info you could possibly need is available in
>xml, json and yaml files at urls of this form:
>
>www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json
>www.bbc.co.uk/radio4extra/programmes/schedules/2014/11/1.json
>www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/last_week.json

Please check the headers you get back from any such request, though:

X-Aps-Deprecation-Notice: APS is soon to be deprecated. It will first
of all cease to be supported on a 24/7 basis, and will then cease
responding entirely. Nitro is the BBC's new API for programme data,
and can provide all the information previously provided by APS. Go
here to read more: http://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitro

It's nice to have for now, but I wouldn't go building any serious
infrastructure on it.

Roger

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Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules

2014-11-02 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 09:10:57AM -0600, Terry L. Ridder wrote:
>I may have missed something , but where is there any mention of the 
>www.bbc.co.uk website programme schedules going away?

As I said in the mail that you quoted, it's in the HTTP headers when
you request the actual schedules. It's not announced on the web site
itself as far as I know.

(Please don't reply both to the list and to me. I read the list.)

Roger

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Re: confirm & excessive bounces

2014-11-02 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 11:18:56PM +, Mable Syrup wrote:
>Anyone any suggestions as to what in particular is being bounced and if 
>there's any way I can tell yahoo not to bounce? 

Very quickly because it's off-topic: probably the daft Yahoo DMARC
policy (see
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-breaks-mailing-lists.html
for example).

Yahoo will not change this. I fear you'll need to find a competent
email provider.

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Re: Me too!

2014-11-04 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:00:25AM +, Steve wrote:
>What happens when Nitro kicks in then? another re-write of Get_Iplayer?

Well, get_iplayer as it stands probably stops working.

Whether it's going to be possible to replace it, we don't know until
someone outside the BBC can actually try the new thing.

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Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 08:38:13PM +, Charles Johnson wrote:
>On 08/11/14 17:14, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
>> so why duplicate a copy to an individual, as some seem to do on here?
>I suppose in certain cases it might be seen as 'belt and braces'
>behaviour (why not?)

Because it can cause replies to those messages, intended to be in
public on the list, to be sent only to a single individual.

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Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-08 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 10:01:46PM +, Colin Law wrote:
>However the fact is that this is the way the administrator of the list
>want it to work and since he/she donates his free time to maintaining
>it we all have to be grateful for that and accept the way it works.

Indeed. David's list, his rules.

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Re: mpeg-dash and get_iplayer?

2014-11-12 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:06:34PM +, Jim wrote:
>I'm now wondering what the impact on get_iplayer will be if/when the BBC
>move over to mpeg-dash as seems to be their intent?

Obviously, it will stop working.

Maybe someone will come up with a new version or equivalent program.
Maybe not. There's no point in speculating until the new format is
made available and we can take a look at it.


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Re: Seeking advice on transfer to new computer

2014-12-27 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 08:48:21PM +, roadcone wrote:
>I am pensioning off my Linux Mint 11 machine for a slightly newer
>machine onto which I will install Mint 17. I'd like to retain my
>download history - is it as simple as copying a single file or group
>of files from one computer to another?

Yup.

>If so, which file(s) and where
>will it/they be found please?

~/.get_iplayer/download_history

You might reasonably take the whole directory.

>I have found problems copying the get_iplayer.pl script into the
>appropriate place in Linux as I did not own the folder and was not
>sure how to overcome that problem (I discovered how to take ownership
>but did not know whether that action would have consequences to the
>running of get_iplayer or dependency programs). I resolved that
>problem another way but will a similar issue occur here please?

Configuration is stored per user, so there should be no problem.

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Re: Seeking advice on transfer to new computer

2014-12-28 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 10:59:48PM +, Dave Liquorice wrote:
>As the download_history is in the current users space what happens on a 
>multi user system when more than one user requests the same programme? Does 
>it get downloaded for each individual user request?

Tempted as I am to say "try it and see", the answer is yes.

You could get clever with a group-writeable history file and multiple
links to it, I suppose, but I don't think anyone's complained about
the current system. It's what a program on a multi-user machine is
expected to do: the actions of user A don't affect user B.

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Re: Synology

2015-02-09 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 09:09:15PM +, Dennis Smith wrote:
>Hi guys, Anyone know if there is an easy way to install Get_iPlayer to
>my Synology NAS, even if all I get is a basic web interface with E.G.
>nearly blank webpage to look at and a box to paste a URL into and a
>download button, defaulting to a dedicated download folder?
>
>Anything like this would be ideal, anything more a bonus.

Can you get a command prompt on the NAS? (I know nothing about the
things.)

Have you considered getting a Raspberry Pi or similar cheap and open
device, giving it write access to the NAS, and running get_iplayer
there?

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Re: Seedbox & GiP

2015-03-24 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:50:43AM +, CJB wrote:
>Following on from the discussion about running GiP on multiple
>networked computers, I wonder if it would work on a seedbox (of the
>kind normally used for torrenting)?

There's no reason it wouldn't (it's just another computer, after all),
but you'll want to make sure you're using a box with a UK IP address.

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Re: Large downloads slowing/stopping as they progress

2015-05-09 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 10:02:59AM +0100, Jim web wrote:
>As came, it will play with VLC, but as with earlier results, showed the
>wrong duration and would crash out if I tried to jump to a later section
>whilst playing. I guess this may be the norm for the raw flv's?

In my experience of playing video files (I haven't tried this
particular one), that's a sign of a file that's been truncated. (The
header gives the duration it was expected to have, but some of the
data are missing.) The remux that you did rebuilds the header data
from the actual file content.

R

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Re: GIP on Western Digital MyCloud

2015-11-14 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:33:27PM +0100, HDR Partridge wrote:
>I'm not a perl expert, so will do some digging into @INC and
>non.standard perl installs, as the MyCloud one may be I guess.

That's a fairly standard-looking @INC, but HTML::Entities (part of
HTML::Parser) isn't a standard module. I don't know the MyCloud; can
you use packaged software with it, or do you have to install
everything as its author intended?

If A: install HTML::Parser by whatever means the thing offers. (E.g.
apt-get install libhtml-parser-perl if it's a Debian-like setup.)

If B: use CPAN to install it, which will be rather harder work.

R

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Re: GIP on Western Digital MyCloud

2015-11-15 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:07:26AM +0100, HDR Partridge wrote:
>So more digging required!  Seems like the 64k page memory build is a
>bit of a hurdle for anyone trying to do things on the MyCloud over and
>above what comes pre-installed.

I have to admit that at this point I'd be thinking that a Raspberry Pi
or similar low-power machine would be less trouble.

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Re: OT: Help with Broken Downloads Please

2015-12-22 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 02:48:21PM +, Budge wrote:
>I have five GiP downloads of "Composer of the Week" from a couple of years
>back which should have been .m4a files but are in my system as .mp3. 

What does "file" have to say? (Assuming Unix of some sort.)

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Re: get_iplayer Broken Again!!

2016-02-16 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:08:00AM +, J K.Eason wrote:
>It was working fine for me at the time of your posting and is
>downloading another test program as I type after retrieving the listings
>this morning.
> This is via the command line on Windows 7 using v2.94.

Check the date on tellyaddict's posts - they're all from Sunday.

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Re: Bug hopefully not affecting GiP

2016-02-17 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 01:59:40AM +, CJB wrote:
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35592916

If you have a Linux box, you should be keeping it updated; the patch
was available last night. A Raspberry Pi is a Linux box. As root:
aptitude update, aptitude upgrade.

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Re: Outlook Express 6 on WinXP and this list

2016-04-06 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 01:18:25PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
>The only thing we have is basic email hygiene. Use a proper email
>client which doesn't screw up the *basics*, and use it properly.

In-Reply-To has only been a standard since 1977. I'm sure Microsoft
will catch up eventually, when they write an email system for the
Internet.

R

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Re: Offtopic noise: Re: BBC iPlayer viewers now need a...

2016-05-16 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 07:32:44PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
>Is there still a benefit to having this list at all? Would we be better
>off shutting it down entirely?

I'd rather have the list, as a set of forums is just another place for
me to forget to look at. Email can be filtered and prioritised and
sorted in a useful way.

(Yeah, I know, The Kids Today don't believe that. But they've grown up
with horrible interfaces to their mail, so it's no wonder.)

There are certain posters who only seem to contribute to off-topic
threads, and I have them killfiled.

R

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Re: GIP 2.95 reports as v2.83 in Linux Mint!!!

2016-07-04 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 06:24:40PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
>I'm getting more and more bewildered here! :-(

# dpkg -l |grep -i iplayer


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Re: GIP 2.95 reports as v2.83 in Linux Mint!!!

2016-07-04 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 06:34:25PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
>On 04/07/16 18:27, Roger Bell_West wrote:
>>dpkg -l |grep -i iplayer
>
>Thanks Roger
>
>dpkg -l |grep -i iplayer
>rc  get-iplayer 2.83-1  all
>download/stream available BBC iPlayer TV and radio programmes
>
>So how do I uninstall that?

Taking the conversation back to the list for the benefit of anyone
else:

That package is not installed (you've already removed it, and the
system still knows about it).

So what _was_ the result of "which get_iplayer" that Colin asked
about?

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Re: GIP 2.95 reports as v2.83 in Linux Mint!!!

2016-07-04 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 07:05:10PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
>There is a blank response to "which get_iplayer" as I uninstalled both
>get-iplayer and get_iplayer.

So if you now install the new version...?

>Just going back to the comment you made earlier, how come the system still
>"knows about" the uninstalled program? I would have thought that uninstalling
>it would be the end of the matter?

You asked the system to uninstall the package, but not to purge its
configuration files.

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Re: GIP 2.95 reports as v2.83 in Linux Mint!!!

2016-07-04 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 07:31:09PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
>On 04/07/16 19:15, Roger Bell_West wrote:
>>You asked the system to uninstall the package, but not to purge its
>>configuration files.
>Oh, so what is the command to do that, please?

apt-get purge, or aptitude purge.

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Re: GIP 2.95 reports as v2.83 in Linux Mint!!!

2016-07-09 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 06:28:17AM -0500, artisticforge . wrote:
>ln -s ./get_iplayer-2.95/get_iplayer ~/bin/get_iplayer

When creating symlinks it's better to give an absolute path as the
first file argument, just to be on the safe side.

ln -s ~/get_iplayer-2.95/get_iplayer ~/bin/get_iplayer

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Disabling television mode

2016-07-12 Thread Roger Bell_West
We know that as of 1 September a TV licence will be required to
download TV programmes from the BBC.

I have a hosted server away from my premises, which is mains-powered
equipment, and therefore not covered by my own TV licence (if any);
the hosting company quite reasonably has no interest in covering it
either.

So I want to ensure that it will be unable to download TV programmes,
even by accident, while still remaining available for radio. Any
suggestions?

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Re: Disabling television mode

2016-07-12 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 02:38:35PM +0100, S Carr wrote:
>On 12 July 2016 at 08:27, Roger Bell_West  wrote:
>> So I want to ensure that it will be unable to download TV programmes,
>> even by accident, while still remaining available for radio. Any
>> suggestions?
>--type=radio

Even in the options file, that also prevents liveradio, localfiles, or
podcast modes. And can be casually overridden on the command line.

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Re: Disabling television mode

2016-07-12 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 05:02:50PM +0100, Colin Law wrote:
>On 12 July 2016 at 08:27, Roger Bell_West  wrote:
>> We know that as of 1 September a TV licence will be required to
>> download TV programmes from the BBC.
>I did not know that.  Did I miss something?  Presumably so.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/bbc-iplayer-and-the-tv-licence

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Re: Disabling television mode

2016-07-12 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 05:28:30PM +0100, Colin Law wrote:
>It's OK, I should have read further.  Your normal residence has to be
>covered, then one is ok wherever you are.

"provided the device you’re using to watch or download programmes
isn’t plugged into the electricity mains at a separate address."

So, while away from home, you must unplug your laptop before running
get_iplayer or watching anything downloaded by it. Which gets back to
the reason I started this thread, because I assumed people would know
this stuff or be capable of looking it up: my server is not at my
address, and is mains powered.

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Re: Disabling television mode

2016-07-12 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 06:38:44PM +0100, SquarePenguin wrote:
>On 12/07/2016 08:27, Roger Bell_West wrote:
>> So I want to ensure that it will be unable to download TV programmes,
>> even by accident, while still remaining available for radio. Any
>> suggestions?
>You have a response to this feature request here:
>https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/thread-951.html

Thanks. Fair answer; I shall just have to warn my users of the offence
they will be committing if they circumvent these protections.

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Re: Deprecated features to be removed in next release (2.97)

2016-08-31 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 02:28:27AM +0300, Vangelis forthnet wrote:
>1. Support for news and sport site videos and other embedded media

youtube-dl does a credible job at these.

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Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:30:39PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
>(Why is this the only one out of hundreds of mailing lists I'm on where
>people care so much about topic drift?)

You've asked this before. I can only assume you mostly favour lists
that encourage general chat as well as the subject they're about.

Your experience is not mine.

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Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

2016-09-27 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:15:46PM +0100, Graham wrote:
>My guess is that they will ask for name, address and email, possibly
>under penalty of perjury and with email validation during registration.
>No one is going to know, or be willing to look for, their licence
>number!  They will presumably check if there is a licence at the
>address. If not, threatening letters and emails get sent. Why do
>anything more complicated than that?

Because so far use of iPlayer for _radio_ programmes does not require
a licence, or residency in the UK.

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Re: PVR List entry no longer works

2016-11-24 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 08:47:20AM +, Budge wrote:
>pvrsearch = The_Now_Show
>search0 = The Now Show
>type = radio

>My question, why does the pvr item no longer work.  What has changed?

I don't know, but my PVR file:

metadata generic
type radio
search0 Now Show
channel 4
exclude Vote Now Show

still works, and the metadata file has

The Now Show: Series 49
The Now Show
The Now Show: Series 49: Episode 1

etc. so it's _probably_ not a matter of "The" being moved around.

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Re: Get_iplayer is streaming live TV!

2016-11-28 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:17:30PM +, d.l...@surrey.ac.uk wrote:
>Now, does anyone know how to password protect the CGI script ? I don't 
>think I can do this with normal .htacess

Um, don't expose your web server to the world?

If you need to get at it from outside, use a VPN.

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Re: Get_iplayer is streaming live TV!

2016-11-28 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 04:40:53PM +, d.l...@surrey.ac.uk wrote:
>I am sort-of trying to protect the port, but given that I access my server 
>from a whole heap of locations and I can't say in advance what those source 
>IPs will be, it will make it all rather cumbersome.

ssh tunnel. Bind the "CGI" to localhost so that nothing can reach it
directly, then connect from outside with:

ssh -L 1234:localhost:1234 username@your_external_dns_name

and point your client at localhost:1234 on the box where you're
running the ssh process.

(If you're stuck with a non-command-line ssh, check its documentation
for local port forwarding.)

(Note - please check your email client settings and do not reply to me
directly. I sent this to the mailing list because I want conversation
to happen on the mailing list.)

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Re: what is pre-watershed version

2017-05-24 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 08:39:38AM -0500, artisticforge . wrote:
>while running --info on a program two versions came up which i had not
>seen before, pre-watershed & pre-watershed2.
>
>what are meanings of all the various versions?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watershed_(broadcasting)

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Re: How can I keep two installations in sync?

2017-09-28 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 04:18:58PM +0100, Lorenzo Martinelli wrote:
>Is there a simple way to override GIP's default cache directory? If that were
>possible, I could point both installations to the same NAS folder and be done
>with.
>
>--profile-dir  does not seem to work in the options file (unless I am
>doing something wrong)

Looking at the source code, I guess --profiledir, or set the
environment variable GETIPLAYERUSERPREFS.

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Re: Linux converting from manual installation to PPA woes.

2017-11-26 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 11:10:01PM -0500, John Reay wrote:
>OKI did some RTFM on 'type' and 'hash', which led me to open a new shell.
>That solved my reported problem, but I'm now back to my initial
>problem which is that when a run get_player I get "segmentation
>fault".

Please post output which includes the error message you report.

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Re: Linux converting from manual installation to PPA woes.

2017-11-26 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 03:32:53PM -, RS wrote:
>Again I am guessing, but is HTTP::Request part of LWP::Protocol?  How you
>check whether Perl has been configured with the correct version of
>LWP::Protocol I'll have to leave someone else to answer.

I think this is unlikely to be the answer (I think the OP has two
Perls installed, one of them broken, and running as root is invoking
the other one), but for the record:

perl -e 'use LWP::Protocol;print $LWP::Protocol::VERSION,"\n";'

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Re: Format of options file

2018-03-05 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 06:25:58PM +0800, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
>I've been following the gist of the thread but not the detail. I am wondering
>whether the answer to your second question is that they can't!!!

It would be possible to rewrite get_iplayer to make it agnostic with
respect to line endings.

This is, of course, only useful for those users who transfer its
working files between Windows and Linux machines.

If you are one of those users, feel free to write a patch.

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Re: v3.13 released

2018-03-27 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 09:19:43PM +0100, Clive wrote:
>I've been away so my apologies if this has been covered. I understand that
>scraping the BBC pages was broken but is fixed in v3.13 - well, not for me it
>seems. I am using get_iplayer in a Terminal within Linux Mint. For example,
>there are three episodes of Hitchhiker available but only Episodes 1 & 2 are
>found by the term: get_iplayer hitch. I can get the third episode from the
>pid. Can anyone offer any guidance please?

Since I have successfully downloaded that same programme with 3.13,
can you confirm absolutely that you're running the new version?

(Yes, I know it sounds stupid. I've done it before.)

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Re: v3.13 released

2018-03-27 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 09:36:55PM +0100, Clive wrote:
>get_iplayer 3.13-ppa31d, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis

OK, that's not a "pure" 3.13, and maybe that's your problem. I'm
running directly off the github download. Anyone else using this PPA
version?

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Re: PVR/CRON Query

2019-03-11 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:07:43AM +, Charles Johnson wrote:
>I'm not experienced with the PVR, but afaics it's meant to be run as a server
>in a client/server configuration is it not?
>
>If so, you wouldn't want cron to run it. That's for running jobs at regular
>intervals. What you'd need to do if i'm right is to run it as a service

The PVR itself is a mode for get_iplayer which checks listings,
downloads anything new, and exits. It's a perfect match for a crontab,
which fires off commands at set times.

The web interface to the PVR is a completely different thing, and (if
used) should indeed be run continuously.

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Re: New distro.

2019-06-19 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:52:58AM +0100, Jim web wrote:
>I installed libxml2-dev as well, but, alas, it still doesn't work. :-/

In my Debian system, LibXML.pm (note the capitalisation) is provided by
libxml-libxml-perl.

This is a dependency of libxml-simple-perl so should have been installed
automatically. How did you install XML::Simple?

Roger

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Re: New distro.

2019-06-20 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 12:49:10PM +0100, Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip wrote:
>How is a perl user supposed to know whether to go to cpan/cpanminus route or
>expect their distro's package manager to deal with this?

The standard approach is to use the system-packaged modules if they're
available, and build them oneself from CPAN if not.

If you're on a Debian-based system you should have access to
dh-make-perl, which is a short-cut for building Debian packages out of
CPAN modules. It's not pretty but it usually gets the job done.

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Re: Excessive Bounces

2019-07-27 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 09:14:40PM +1000, Steven Carr wrote:
>Has an admin (not)updated settings on the list that’s causing GMail to
>reject emails? I know on some other lists I’m a member of changes have
>had to be made to Mailman due to DKIM/DMARC.

In order to participate reliably in Internet email, you'll need a
standards-compliant platform - which gmail isn't. It's fine if you
only ever exchange mail with other walled-garden users, but talking to
the wider world is a bit more demanding.

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Re: Message to 7867650...@email.uscc.net failed.

2019-10-08 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 05:04:33PM +0100, Clive wrote:
>My two 'reply list' emails today resulted in an email (four each, in
>fact) error as subject. Is this my personal problem or is it a common
>failure?

Generally this means that the recipient is bouncing list mail, and for
reasons of their configuration the bounce has come back to you rather
than to the list server. With the list owner now informed, there's no
further action you need to take.

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Re: Mailer Daemon error message received

2019-10-14 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:31:48AM +0200, Dave Widgery wrote:
>Although my messages to get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org appear to be
>getting there, each time recently I have received 4
>from: mailer_dae...@email.uscc.net
>subject: Message to 7867650...@email.uscc.net failed.
>With no message content.
>Any suggestions on what might be happening?

See the thread from 8 October with the same subject as this failure
message.

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Re: GiP and ffmpeg

2019-11-04 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 02:53:28PM +, Budge wrote:
>Any clues what might have caused this and how can I correct the fault
>(which may or may not be the problem with Linn DS player)?

I don't see any reply to James Scholes' comment of 23 October. Did you
try remuxing as he suggested? Or even a plain remux without the
bitstream filter:

ffmpeg -i input.m4a -vn -acodec copy output.m4a

My experience with Linn is that while they make some very good
analogue hardware they've never liked digital and they aren't
particularly competent at it.

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Re: No Prime Minister?

2020-02-07 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 09:26:34AM +, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>I have both complete series (Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister) which
>I can make available if we can work out how to get them to you.

Given the heavy-handedness of many copyright enforcers, please don't
make such offers on a public list, or the owner may get hassled for
"facilitating piracy".

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Re: An OT thread about the forums

2020-04-12 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 03:32:17PM +0100, SquarePenguin wrote:
>2) I close the forums to new threads/posts but keep it online.
>
>This is great for keeping the resource accessible to the community, it's a
>PITA for maintenance and ongoing costs (it ain't free to host the forums).

2a) possibly in addition to this, start a new forum with better
software? I don't use the forum because I don't get on with the
standard interface; but I find that Discourse is remarkably
non-painful to run.

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Re: Can get_iplayer still download radio?

2020-05-02 Thread Roger Bell_West
Yes, get_iplayer can still download radio.

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Re: OT Question on audio downloads from youtube

2020-09-22 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 01:03:45PM +0100, Budge wrote:
>I have in the past had issues with .m4a but can try again as it has been a 
>while.  
>I am always suspicious of using terms such as "best" because it is not a 
>defined term but a subjective one.  
>If I go to mp3 then my concern is that I may be further compromising the 
>quality.  
>I believe the sound is encoded as AAC in the Youtube.  If I am correct then 
>which format sticks most faithfully to AAC and will work with my systems.   I 
>shall do a few tests following your reply and see how I get on.

Use youtube-dl -x and it will automatically get the version with the
least-lossy available audio, strip off the extraneous video, and leave
you with a file that is just the audio stream. (Not always m4a;
sometimes it's opus.) That's the version you keep in your archives.

Then if you need to play it on something that doesn't understand that
format you transcode it as needed.

Or of course feed it to something like mpd, which is what I use round
the house. (You'll want to tag it first.)

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Re: OT Question on audio downloads from youtube

2020-09-23 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:16:10AM +0100, budge wrote:
>I have now found that minimserver, which runs in the NAS and serves the music
>data to my LAN and thence to my renderers, is not supported by .opus.  I can
>use AAC files so will download them to .aac or  should that be .m4a.  No
>hardship and glad I found out now.

It can be both. aac is an encoding format; m4a is a container format.
For example if I ffprobe the latest Brain of Britain (obtained via
GIP) I get:

Stream #0:0(eng): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz,
stereo, fltp, 320 kb/s (default)

This is an AAC-encoded stream in an m4a container.

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Re: OT Question on audio downloads from youtube

2020-09-24 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 09:25:15AM +0100, Budge wrote:
>Life in never simple!  My choice of .opus was frustrated by lack of
>support for my media server and author advises he will not likely be
>adding .opus.

What can I say, mpd is just the best I've found. :)

>I therefore went with .aac as the next best option.
>
>I now find that if I wish to include thumbnails I can only use .m4a (or
>.mp4).
>
>I appreciate thumbnails do nothing for sound but they do make searching
>easier so looks like .m4a is the way to go.  Pity I just downloaded 18
>files to .aac.

Please see my and Dave's previous comments: you can remux your raw AAC
bitstream into an M4A (which is the same thing as MP4, just renamed
for convenience) container without reencoding.

>My only other comment for now is that the metadata that comes with the
>download is very poor and very short on the info I have been used to.

YouTube basically gives you nothing (because you're meant to be
showing that blog of data in your browser, not giving it to other
software to play with).

I just use ffmpeg to tag. (ffmpeg -acodec copy -metadata foo=bar etc.)
Some people like AtomicParsley. Whatever works for you.

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Re: Unsubscribed

2020-10-16 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:15:03PM +0200, mable syrup wrote:
 
>I got fed-up of being unsubscribed like this from my yahoo mail account, which 
>had worked fine for years and decided to try a different (free) mail provider. 
>  Yet to see whether it's a real improvement, but getting messages at all is a 
>plus.

Yahoo has a double problem: it has implemented the ineffective
anti-spam measures David mentioned, and it is entirely unable to
prevent its users' accounts being hijacked and used for spamming, so
it's increasingly getting blacklisted as a source for any email.


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Re: RIAA wipes youtube-dl from the internet

2020-10-24 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 03:24:45PM +0100, Jim web wrote:
>i.e. came from the openmandriva address.
>
>Is that correct and as should be expected?

No idea, but it's identical to the version 2020.09.20 that I already had.

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Re: RIAA wipes youtube-dl from the internet

2020-10-26 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 05:50:40AM +, michael norman wrote:
>What has any of this got to do with GIP ?  Surely it is OT ?

Of course it is, but nobody cares any more. Just as nobody bothers to
trim out dozens of lines of quoted text for their one-line reply.

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Re: get_iplayer Remux: Programme "already in history" error

2021-01-08 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 11:13:31AM +, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:
>Also, IIRC tagging is done by AtomicParsley, not FFMPEG.

It is. ffmpeg can be used for tagging, but not I think within the
context of get_iplayer.

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Re: VIRUS ALERT -get iplayer!

2021-02-10 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 05:32:22PM +, Jim web wrote:
>Is it actually a virus?

No, it's a user who doesn't filter out obvious malware but instead
forwards another copy of it to the list.

R

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Re: LibXML.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2022-08-16 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 09:54:32AM +0100, Chris Walker wrote:
>Do you mean a version number for Perl? Try 'man perl' as here, that
>gives a history of updates. Just scroll down the list of stuff it
>produces.

More simply, "perl -v".

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