Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Jakub Steiner wrote: > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:18:03 +0200 > From: Jakub Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: GIMPUser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector > > On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 09:55 -0700, Carol Spears wrote: > > > i have a feeling that someone like jimmac and/or tigert could design a > > file selector that would be more for the gimps needs and not a generic > > answer everyones needs (not gimps) widget and at least one of the gimp > > developers could easily put one together. > > I would rather address some of the issues with the new fileselector and > use the possibility to extend it rather than going for something > completely different. The Ctrl+L entry needs some love indeed, but > especially the save dialog is very dandy. I think this would be very wise. There is an outstanding bug report requesting a way to have the location bar always be shown (i posted a link in an ealier thread on the developer list). There are many applications besides the GIMP that want/need a thumbnail preview in their filechooser, so if the gtk developers knew what was required there could be extended version of the standard file selector that could benifit more than just the GIMP. - Alan. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Cannot open jpeg from camera
Hello, When I try to open jpeg images from my olympus stylus 400, a box pops up saying: Opening failed: Plug-In could not open image Every other image program that I have tried does not have a problem with these images. Strangely, gimp even shows them correctly in the preview on the open dialog. :S Does anyone know anything about this? I uploaded an image here: http://www.zippyimages.com/files/64530/p6130166.jpg Thanks in advance for any help, Matthew Marshall ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
> the buttons that are there on my gimp-2.0 file-selector are just space > wasters. i dont have or use a "Desktop" directory (or folder, whatever) > nor do i have or use a "Documents" directory (or folder, again, > whatever). > Documents, Desktop and Home was there in gimp 2.0 too. The improvement what is already there, that you can add a specific directory at the left list. > > while the "/" between the buttons look sort of silly, For me the "/" between the buttons just *clarify* what are this huge amount of button. Is it a path. At the moment (gimp 2.1.0) the buttons are organized horizontalement too, but at the first look I didnt recognize that its a path, I thinked that there are just another option buttons. So I think, if the path button would be rest horizontal arrangement(and not drop-down menu), that it must separate with a / for clarify that its a *path*. Maybe it is a waste of space, it can developed (i think), but it must be there. Cheers, Khiraly ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
hello there, On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 11:13:57PM +0200, Khiraly wrote: > > Maybe I would post at the gtk mailing list, but first Im curious for > your opinions. I have made a file open dialog improvement in the new one > (as mockup). > > The main improvements are: > 1. a horizontal layout for the path (the one divided by / signs) on the > top (new : / sign; always starts from root) > 2. folder names are bold > 3. input field, where TAB completion works of course, as in the previous > version. Above that path could be repeated as simple text. > 4. name of the selected file appears in the input field (as in the > earlier version) > > Mockup: > http://www.pvvbitech.hu/fotok/openDialog/openDialog.png > i looked at this. it seems to me that the horizontal layout for the path you suggested is already set up by gtk to be used vertically in that area on the left. gtk-tree-view or something like this. the buttons that are there on my gimp-2.0 file-selector are just space wasters. i dont have or use a "Desktop" directory (or folder, whatever) nor do i have or use a "Documents" directory (or folder, again, whatever). widgets should not assume things with valuable space. while the "/" between the buttons look sort of silly, the thumbnail of the image is quite lovely. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 05:55:20AM +1000, Owen wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:31:02 -0700 > Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > this is a more than fair request, except for the fact that it is > > impossible for someone who is using gimp-2.0 to easily use gimp-2.1. > > It what way is it impossible? I have both running at the same time with different > themes for easy identification. > there are issues with the plug-ins and a clash of names, iirc. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
2004-06-14, h keltezéssel 20:18-kor Jakub Steiner ezt írta: > On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 09:55 -0700, Carol Spears wrote: > > i have a feeling that someone like jimmac and/or tigert could design a > > file selector that would be more for the gimps needs and not a generic > > answer everyones needs (not gimps) widget and at least one of the gimp > > developers could easily put one together. Hi, Maybe I would post at the gtk mailing list, but first Im curious for your opinions. I have made a file open dialog improvement in the new one (as mockup). The main improvements are: 1. a horizontal layout for the path (the one divided by / signs) on the top (new : / sign; always starts from root) 2. folder names are bold 3. input field, where TAB completion works of course, as in the previous version. Above that path could be repeated as simple text. 4. name of the selected file appears in the input field (as in the earlier version) Mockup: http://www.pvvbitech.hu/fotok/openDialog/openDialog.png If anybody will improve, here is the xcf file: http://www.pvvbitech.hu/fotok/openDialog/openDialog.xcf All feedback, opinion are most welcome! Cheers, Khiraly ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:31:02 -0700 Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is a more than fair request, except for the fact that it is > impossible for someone who is using gimp-2.0 to easily use gimp-2.1. It what way is it impossible? I have both running at the same time with different themes for easy identification. -- Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
hello On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 08:07:18PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > removing the text entry location is a silly way to solve the tab > > completion problem, if this is what happened. > > I'd prefer if everyone who wants to contribute to this discussion > tries the new file selector first. A guess on how a new widget might > work is not a good basis for a productive discussion. > this is a more than fair request, except for the fact that it is impossible for someone who is using gimp-2.0 to easily use gimp-2.1. the very least i can do is to look at the screenshot carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 08:18:03PM +0200, Jakub Steiner wrote: > On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 09:55 -0700, Carol Spears wrote: > > > i have a feeling that someone like jimmac and/or tigert could design a > > file selector that would be more for the gimps needs and not a generic > > answer everyones needs (not gimps) widget and at least one of the gimp > > developers could easily put one together. > > I would rather address some of the issues with the new fileselector and > use the possibility to extend it rather than going for something > completely different. The Ctrl+L entry needs some love indeed, but > especially the save dialog is very dandy. > now i am thinking this is a job for timecop. does anyone know if bubblemon has been ported to gtk2 yet? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 09:55 -0700, Carol Spears wrote: i have a feeling that someone like jimmac and/or tigert could design a file selector that would be more for the gimps needs and not a generic answer everyones needs (not gimps) widget and at least one of the gimp developers could easily put one together. I would rather address some of the issues with the new fileselector and use the possibility to extend it rather than going for something completely different. The Ctrl+L entry needs some love indeed, but especially the save dialog is very dandy. cheers -- Jakub Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
Hi, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > removing the text entry location is a silly way to solve the tab > completion problem, if this is what happened. I'd prefer if everyone who wants to contribute to this discussion tries the new file selector first. A guess on how a new widget might work is not a good basis for a productive discussion. The new file chooser is definitely an improvement but I'd like to see the location entry being integrated into the dialog instead of keeping it in an extra dialog. At the very least it should be better documented how to get to the text entry field. Another issue that can be solved by improving the docs is what needs to be done so that the filechooser uses icons. See this mail: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2004-May/msg00010.html Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP installation on Solaris
Hi, "Colin Bannister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anyone else experienced this difficulty? Could anyone suggest a > way to install GIMP 2.0.1 that doesn't risk breaking the existing > 1.2.5 installation ? gimp-1.2 can be kept installed in parallel with gimp-2.0, even in the same prefix. The same goes for gtk+-1.2 and gtk+-2.x. So installing gimp-2.0 and/or gtk+-2.x can hardly break your gimp-1.2 installation. What does not work is to have different versions of the gtk+-2.x libraries in the standard system search paths. Since the 2.x libraries are all backward-compatible there's also not much point for a user in having both gtk+-2.2 and gtk+-2.4 installed. If you need a newer version, then please update the one that is installed instead of installing newer version next to it. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP installation on Solaris
hi On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 04:47:01PM +0100, Colin Bannister wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to install GIMP 2.0.1 from source on a Solaris 2.8 machine. > Unfortunately, > I have not managed to get the prerequisite GTK 2.4.1 to install. > I am following the instructions in 'install_help.html' from the GIMP web site. > > pkg-config seems to install OK > glib 2.4.1 installs OK. > pango 1.4.0 OK > ATK 1.6.0 OK > > Gtk configure fails at: > > checking for GLIB version >= 2.4.0... no > *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why... > etc... > > This is SECOND check for GLIB, first check passed!: > > checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0 atk >= 1.0.1 pango >= 1.4.0... yes > > the message says it might be finding an old version of Glib, but I do not want to > remove > this and damage other installations of GIMP/GTK (I thought it WAS possible to have > parallel installations of GTK). > > Has anyone else experienced this difficulty? Could anyone suggest a way to install we have been seeing this exact problem with debian, fedora, suse. maybe mandrake -- i cannot remember exactly. it seems to be a problem with pkg-config and the suggestions of how to fix it are many. for some reason, there is a glib-2.4 on your computer but there is no glib-2.4.pc in the place that pkg-config should be putting one. in that place is a glib-2.3.pc. how to fix this on solaris? i dunno. i built my own and put a pc file in the path. which glib is my gimp using? i have no idea. it works fine. so, you will have to figure out the best way to put this .pc file into the place it should be for solaris. if someone else who is using solaris tells you they are not having these problems, ignore them. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector
for a very long time, the gimp had a file selector that was better than any other gtk app available to me. someone bragged about how the gimp developers had designed it from gtk things. i have a feeling that someone like jimmac and/or tigert could design a file selector that would be more for the gimps needs and not a generic answer everyones needs (not gimps) widget and at least one of the gimp developers could easily put one together. removing the text entry location is a silly way to solve the tab completion problem, if this is what happened. maybe some users have a better way of stating these questions, suggestions and concerns before i attempt it on the developer list again. thanks, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.1.0 development version
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 05:52:55PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: > Khiraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Other things: > > OPEN FILE DIALOG > > > > The new file open dialog is a step backward. Its really uncomfortable. > > I dont have a input box where can I input the file-path. > > (/mnt/big/rajzok/munkaim/egyeb/papagaj.png) > > Hit Ctrl-L to get a dialog that allows you to input a filename. > i would like to have some more information before i go to bugzilla with my ideas about this. i was around when the gtk guys put decorative corners onto some places in the widget. the problem was that the decorative corner was not a decorative item but was supposed to be a handle to expand dialogs with. the real linuxy thinking did not like a handle with no purpose. i saw something similar when they were not worried about being able to use linux tab completion when typing into this part of the file selector dialog. now it is not available at all? someone told me that as long as Owen was involved with gtk2 that this sort of stuff would not happen. is this still a fact? > > Its not difference between the directory and the regular file. (just > > when I click on it). > > You need to install an icon theme and tell gtk+ to use it. Check the > gtk+ mailing lists archive. > > Anyway, the discussion about the GTK+ file chooser dialog belongs on a > GTK+ mailing-list. We can't change it so it's pointless to discuss it > here. > sort of pointless, sort of not. i understand what i need from gtk only from using the gimp. my nice window manager and all of those toys are fun but unnecessary. i need gimp to work like a linux application on my desktop no matter how pretty the desktop is or how many toys i need around. less pointless would be an explanation so a mere user can take a logical complaint to gtk. can you help with this? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GIMP installation on Solaris
Hello, I am trying to install GIMP 2.0.1 from source on a Solaris 2.8 machine. Unfortunately, I have not managed to get the prerequisite GTK 2.4.1 to install. I am following the instructions in 'install_help.html' from the GIMP web site. pkg-config seems to install OK glib 2.4.1 installs OK. pango 1.4.0 OK ATK 1.6.0 OK Gtk configure fails at: checking for GLIB version >= 2.4.0... no *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why... etc... This is SECOND check for GLIB, first check passed!: checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0 atk >= 1.0.1 pango >= 1.4.0... yes the message says it might be finding an old version of Glib, but I do not want to remove this and damage other installations of GIMP/GTK (I thought it WAS possible to have parallel installations of GTK). Has anyone else experienced this difficulty? Could anyone suggest a way to install GIMP 2.0.1 that doesn't risk breaking the existing 1.2.5 installation ? Thanks, Colin Dr. Colin Bannister Information Services Cripps Computing Centre Tel: 0115 9513326 Fax: 0115 9513358 www: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczcb/ e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been scanned but we cannot guarantee that it and any attachments are free from viruses or other damaging content: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.1.0 development version
Hi, Khiraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Still its another people who have the same tablet problem as me. > A talk about this bug: > http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/tmp/tabletbug.png This is fixed in both the stable and the development branch. The GIMP 2.0.2 release will have it fixed. > Other things: > OPEN FILE DIALOG > > The new file open dialog is a step backward. Its really uncomfortable. > I dont have a input box where can I input the file-path. > (/mnt/big/rajzok/munkaim/egyeb/papagaj.png) Hit Ctrl-L to get a dialog that allows you to input a filename. > Its not difference between the directory and the regular file. (just > when I click on it). You need to install an icon theme and tell gtk+ to use it. Check the gtk+ mailing lists archive. Anyway, the discussion about the GTK+ file chooser dialog belongs on a GTK+ mailing-list. We can't change it so it's pointless to discuss it here. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] gimp 2.1.0 development version
Hi! Still its another people who have the same tablet problem as me. A talk about this bug: http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/tmp/tabletbug.png Gimp 2.1.0 development version doesnt have this bug! But with gimp2.1.0 I have several problem: It can open only .xcf files not jpg and png. And the gimpprint support isnt there(at ./configrue i didnt have any warning about this) How can I enable the different file-type support? - Other things: OPEN FILE DIALOG The new file open dialog is a step backward. Its really uncomfortable. I dont have a input box where can I input the file-path. (/mnt/big/rajzok/munkaim/egyeb/papagaj.png) In general It hide completely the file-hierarchy. The old open dialog had a drop-down menu where was marked the complete path (with slash!(/)) My impression is that the unix intellectuality are completely ignored. (ex: At first look I didnt find where I am, how can I go to the root(/). Filesystem == / its a good joke.) Its not difference between the directory and the regular file. (just when I click on it). If I click on ``HOME'' button I cant go up the hierarchy (ie: /home/lama/ its my home I cant go in /home, just if I click on the left on Filesystem button.) So I must learn that: Home=/home/lama Desktop=/home/lama/Desktop Filesystem=/ (in other language is more terrible the associate, because the variable $HOME is the same but Home is translated for the local language. So isnt self-explanatory that ``Personlicher Ordner'' is /home/lama) --- Its just my opinion, and I have written it as constructive critics. I have several ideas how could be improved this file open dialog, and save some really good things from the old one. Is it help when I make a mockup of this, or is just not the case? Cheers, Khiraly ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] winicon plugin under GIMP 2.x, linux
Hi, Tatar Kolos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has any of you succeeded in installing the GIMP winicon plugin under > GIMP version 2.x, Linux? It's part of the GIMP CVS tree and also in the development snapshot gimp-2.1.0. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Getting rid of those nasty little white dots around an image....
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 11:57:21AM +, Hamish Whittal wrote: > Hello list, > I have an image on a white BG I want to put it onto another colour BG. I > have selected it quite accurately, but now I still have those pesky > 'white' dots. It looks terrible - a bit like it has no anti-aliasing (I > think that's the term). I have tried to blur it with the raindrop tool > (blur and sharpen tool), but this makes the image quite fuzzy and not at > all good to look at. I did try a shaper blur nib, but that does not seem > to have any effect. > the first thing is to check to see if your image is indexed or not. it should say so in the title bar of the image window. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] winicon plugin under GIMP 2.x, linux
On Monday 14 June 2004 08:52, Tatar Kolos wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Has any of you succeeded in installing the GIMP winicon plugin under GIMP > version 2.x, Linux? > > Seems to me, it's only been written for version 1.2, and there was someone > nice enough to port to 2.x, but only for Windows. > > ? Hi, I am not answering your question about the plugin. I am asking what do you need a winicon for? Because if it is for WEB purposes, you can save your image as PNG rather than winicon, and make the world a better place - there is no longer need for these winicons. regards, JS -><- > > Thanks, > Kolos ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] winicon plugin under GIMP 2.x, linux
Hi everyone, Has any of you succeeded in installing the GIMP winicon plugin under GIMP version 2.x, Linux? Seems to me, it's only been written for version 1.2, and there was someone nice enough to port to 2.x, but only for Windows. ? Thanks, Kolos ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Getting rid of those nasty little white dots around an image....
Hello list, I have an image on a white BG I want to put it onto another colour BG. I have selected it quite accurately, but now I still have those pesky 'white' dots. It looks terrible - a bit like it has no anti-aliasing (I think that's the term). I have tried to blur it with the raindrop tool (blur and sharpen tool), but this makes the image quite fuzzy and not at all good to look at. I did try a shaper blur nib, but that does not seem to have any effect. Any help gladly accepted. Thanks H ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] how to change colors
Hi, Jeff Trefftzs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You have several options. > > 1. Image:Mode:Grayscale this will convert your gif to grayscale > You can then convert it back to GIF (e.g. Image:Mode:Indexed, and save > with the .gif extension) No need to convert back to Indexed since Grayscale is already some sort of indexed colormap and the GIF plug-in deals with it just fine. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Commercial Use?
Hi, Quoting moonchaser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I just want to make sure I'm not running into legal or > licencing issues using this software. Thank you for > your time and reply. None at all. The GIMP product is Free (with a big F) meaning that if you distribute a modified version of the GIMP, you must make your modifications available to your distribuees with no conditions applied. However, one of the key freedoms that comes with the GIMP is to use it for whatever you like. Your worry is a little like worrying whether you can use emacs to edit commercial source code. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Commercial Use?
> The GIMP is licensed under the GPL. The GPL does not > affect anything you create > with the software. Yes, the only exception are programs like bison (a C-code generator), who copy part of its source into the output. So you have to apply the software licence to its output. But it's a very peculiar case, and these applications, like Bison itself, are often released under less restricitive licences to allow people to use their output anyway. The problem with the Gimp is that some image formats can be patented so you may still break some law, but gimp developers surely knows more about this issue so wait for their more authoritative answers. Please note that these problems are not related to the commercial nature of your site. You have to be careful with image format patents even if you create no-profit sites for charities! -- andrea http://www.g-cows.org Yahoo! Companion - Scarica gratis la toolbar di Ricerca di Yahoo! http://companion.yahoo.it ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
