[Gimp-user] Some resources?
I am currently looking for extra gradients, brushes, and patterns for the GIMP. I have a project and I don't think the provided tools are sufficient. Does anyone know some sites that provide the tools I mentioned above for download? Thnx in advance. ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-Perl plugin fails to compile.
Von: Rikard Johnels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Gimp seems to be a VERY difficult piece of software to get going from > scratch if you are a dabbling neewbie in compiling/programming Yes. If you want something easy, compile a hello.c... > Far to many depends that arent clearly stated. Form Gimp-Perl's README: "PREREQUISITES [...] Gtk, the perl extension for gtk+2 http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net [...] PDL, the Perl Data Language http://www.cpan.org/ [...] " > I need gazillion libs installed and zonks of perl utils to even THINK of > starting a compilation. Yes. Your package manager will help you to get all of them easily, though (if you don't have a package manager of it fails to do this easily, your're using the wrong platform) > And frankly.. It suck! I'll refuse to comment on this, because all the replies I can think of are insulting :) HTH, Michael -- 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Very few of my posts show on the list...
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Rikard Johnels wrote: > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 01.41, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Rikard Johnels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-24-05 18:37]: > > > I know. And thats what i do. (both originator and list) > > > > BUT, list mail, unless specifically requested, should be replied to > > the *list* only. Why generate an extra copy and the extra traffic by > > sending the author *another* copy of a post he will see on the list > > anyway? > > Security as this list has proved me unreliable when posting. > All other lists i am on never failed.. > > I dont WANT to sen double, but if its the only way to be sure i get the > answers through to the people i discuss with... Your message will get through. Just that there is a delay of 2 - 8 hours before it is repropagated from the list mailer. Owen ps Probably the US Homeland Security mob holding it up. Certainly doesn't happen on the European lists ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Some resources?
Erica wrote: I am currently looking for extra gradients, brushes, and patterns for the GIMP. I have a project and I don't think the provided tools are sufficient. Does anyone know some sites that provide the tools I mentioned above for download? Thnx in advance. You can fine really nice brushes and patterns there: http://www.artcamilla.dk/vaultage/cornucopia/ and also at the graphics Muse stuff: http://www.graphics-muse.com/gfxmuse/muse-brushes-1.html http://www.graphics-muse.com/gfxmuse/muse-brushes-2.html http://www.graphics-muse.com/gfxmuse/muse-patterns.html Best regards, Olivier. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: A couple of game oriented plug-ins
Centipede wrote: Hope you all aren't too tired of incessantly hearing about my pet projects :) Well, I do not know for the others, but I am certainly not tired of you work. Just jealous ;) I might as well announce the latest one here too (for those of you who also visits gug.sunsite.dk). They continue where layer styles left off, but develops into whatever seems a good idea. I have a few more plug-ins planned for light effects and various gizmos'n'gadgets in game-style gfx. http://artcamilla.dk/vaultage/articles/the6502s/articles-gimp/camilla-game-tools/article.html Have fun, centipede Regards, Olivier ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HDRI image
Hi, i am newbie in gimp. hope the next feature of GIMP support HDRI image. Thank you. Teddy Widhi L. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Very few of my posts show on the list...
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 07:21:15AM +0200, Rikard Johnels wrote: > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 01.41, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Rikard Johnels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-24-05 18:37]: > > > I know. And thats what i do. (both originator and list) > > > > BUT, list mail, unless specifically requested, should be replied to > > the *list* only. Why generate an extra copy and the extra traffic by > > sending the author *another* copy of a post he will see on the list > > anyway? > > Security as this list has proved me unreliable when posting. > All other lists i am on never failed.. > > I dont WANT to sen double, but if its the only way to be sure i get the > answers through to the people i discuss with... > the gimp-user list is running very slowly lately. i would be curious as to how many are on the maillist i have not configured my mailer very much, therefore, i try to answer emails that were sent to the list back to the list and emails that i know came from an individual to the individual. the emphasis should be on the "try". i can see from the headers if the email was also sent to the list or not, whether i actually look at those is another emotionally charged question. right now, you are making a mistake i often make -- although, i think you make it on purpose. we had quite an exchange via email and most of that i think i sent directly to you and not to the list. i relaxed and typed as if i were typing to a thinking adult since there were words in the emails that did not fit on a public mail list -- installing things can be frustrating. can i ask that you paste some (perhaps not all) of the spew you got from when you tried to install the gimp-perl tarball? not only is the line about the cat interesting, but also the "install pdl" and "please do not install the pdl" error messages. send this to the whole list and await for the list to mail it out. i was apologizing to you (directly) for suse, even though i had nothing to do with this distribution (to the best of my knowledge). can i ask you personally as well as publically ... did you pay for your suse installation and what did you expect when you installed it? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Very few of my posts show on the list...
On Wednesday 25 May 2005 12.07, Carol Spears wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 07:21:15AM +0200, Rikard Johnels wrote: > > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 01.41, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Rikard Johnels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-24-05 18:37]: > > > > I know. And thats what i do. (both originator and list) > > > > > > BUT, list mail, unless specifically requested, should be replied to > > > the *list* only. Why generate an extra copy and the extra traffic by > > > sending the author *another* copy of a post he will see on the list > > > anyway? > > > > Security as this list has proved me unreliable when posting. > > All other lists i am on never failed.. > > > > I dont WANT to sen double, but if its the only way to be sure i get the > > answers through to the people i discuss with... > > the gimp-user list is running very slowly lately. i would be curious as > to how many are on the maillist > > i have not configured my mailer very much, therefore, i try to answer > emails that were sent to the list back to the list and emails that i > know came from an individual to the individual. the emphasis should be > on the "try". i can see from the headers if the email was also sent to > the list or not, whether i actually look at those is another emotionally > charged question. > > right now, you are making a mistake i often make -- although, i think > you make it on purpose. we had quite an exchange via email and most of > that i think i sent directly to you and not to the list. i relaxed and > typed as if i were typing to a thinking adult since there were words in > the emails that did not fit on a public mail list -- installing things > can be frustrating. > > can i ask that you paste some (perhaps not all) of the spew you got from > when you tried to install the gimp-perl tarball? not only is the line > about the cat interesting, but also the "install pdl" and "please do not > install the pdl" error messages. send this to the whole list and await > for the list to mail it out. > > i was apologizing to you (directly) for suse, even though i had nothing > to do with this distribution (to the best of my knowledge). > > can i ask you personally as well as publically ... did you pay for your > suse installation and what did you expect when you installed it? > > carol Thats just the point! I send a cc to the list at all times and have done so along our conversation. And they just dont show up -- /Rikard " Sharing knowledge is the most fundamental act of friendship. Because it is a way you can give something without loosing something." -R. Stallman --- Rikard Johnels email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mob : +46 763 19 76 25 PGP : 0x461CEE56 --- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Very few of my posts show on the list...
On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10.50, Owen Cook wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2005, Rikard Johnels wrote: > > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 01.41, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Rikard Johnels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-24-05 18:37]: > > > > I know. And thats what i do. (both originator and list) > > > > > > BUT, list mail, unless specifically requested, should be replied to > > > the *list* only. Why generate an extra copy and the extra traffic by > > > sending the author *another* copy of a post he will see on the list > > > anyway? > > > > Security as this list has proved me unreliable when posting. > > All other lists i am on never failed.. > > > > I dont WANT to sen double, but if its the only way to be sure i get the > > answers through to the people i discuss with... > > Your message will get through. Just that there is a delay of 2 - 8 hours > before it is repropagated from the list mailer. > > > > Owen > > ps Probably the US Homeland Security mob holding it up. Certainly doesn't > happen on the European lists > > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu > http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user It has been DAYS! And even weeks... -- /Rikard " Sharing knowledge is the most fundamental act of friendship. Because it is a way you can give something without loosing something." -R. Stallman --- Rikard Johnels email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mob : +46 763 19 76 25 PGP : 0x461CEE56 --- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Very few of my posts show on the list...
Von: Rikard Johnels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It has been DAYS! I'ts not that uncommon for a mailing list to have a queue time of one or two days. > And even weeks... This, however, can't be considered normal. IIRC, the mailing list system is slow, but not that slow. Manish Singh should be able to provide details about it (Carol, do you know anything per chance?) Michael -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Some resources?
--- Olivier Ripoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erica wrote: > > I am currently looking for extra gradients, > brushes, > > and patterns for the GIMP. I have a project and I > > don't think the provided tools are sufficient. > Does > > anyone know some sites that provide the tools I > > mentioned above for download? Thnx in advance. > > You can fine really nice brushes and patterns there: > http://www.artcamilla.dk/vaultage/cornucopia/ > > and also at the graphics Muse stuff: > http://www.graphics-muse.com/gfxmuse/muse-brushes-1.html > http://www.graphics-muse.com/gfxmuse/muse-brushes-2.html > http://www.graphics-muse.com/gfxmuse/muse-patterns.html > > Best regards, > > Olivier. > Thanks! I'm quite sure I can finish this project with superb graphics. Have you got anymore? ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Very few of my posts show on the list...
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 01:36:09PM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote: > > This, however, can't be considered normal. IIRC, the mailing list system is > slow, but not that slow. Manish Singh should be able to provide details > about it (Carol, do you know anything per chance?) > i do not know anything. i suggested that we attach a household window fan to the top of the computer called beta earlier this week (it was having heat problems at berkeley) when i learned that this computer has a broken motherboard. this was interesting news as no one has touched it since i came to california. i was also told that it is common knowledge that this computer is not able to be repaired. i would like to know if anyone else has been able to determine a computers health without touching it or plugging it in? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Some resources?
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 02:15:41PM +0100, Erica wrote: > --- Olivier Ripoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Erica wrote: > > > I am currently looking for extra gradients, brushes, > > > and patterns for the GIMP. I have a project and I > > > don't think the provided tools are sufficient. Does > > > anyone know some sites that provide the tools I > > > mentioned above for download? Thnx in advance. > > > > You can fine really nice brushes and patterns there: > > http://www.artcamilla.dk/vaultage/cornucopia/ > > > > and also at the graphics Muse stuff: > http://www.graphics-muse.com/gfxmuse/muse-brushes-1.html > http://www.graphics-muse.com/gfxmuse/muse-brushes-2.html > http://www.graphics-muse.com/gfxmuse/muse-patterns.html > > > > Best regards, > > > > Olivier. > > > Thanks! I'm quite sure I can finish this project with > superb graphics. Have you got anymore? > i spent a few days gathering urls for resources, it is not finished and there is not as many actual resources there as are in the other urls: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/resources/ there are also instructions there about how to make your own gradients (borrowed gradients never worked well for me). making your own brushes is outlined on the gimp web site in three tutorials. classic.gimp.org has a tutorial about how to make seamless patterns the old fashioned way. http://classic.gimp.org/data.html if i remember correctly, adrian put a few hundred gradients there. search engines will help. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Very few of my posts show on the list...
Von: Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > i suggested that we attach a household window fan to the top of the > computer called beta earlier this week (it was having heat problems at > berkeley) when i learned that this computer has a broken motherboard. > > this was interesting news as no one has touched it since i came to > california. i was also told that it is common knowledge that this > computer is not able to be repaired. Only for suitable values of "common", IMO... Well, as we don't know how to spend the donated money, I guess that we should consider to buy buying one (or two, to have some redundancy?) decent, priceworthy system for the mailing list, ftp and web servers gimp.org needs? > i would like to know if anyone else has been able to determine a > computers health without touching it or plugging it in? Telepathy - or, as it is not plugged in, necromancy(sp?)? Michael -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Very few of my posts show on the list...
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 05:32:47PM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote: > Von: Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > i suggested that we attach a household window fan to the top of the > > computer called beta earlier this week (it was having heat problems at > > berkeley) when i learned that this computer has a broken motherboard. > > > > this was interesting news as no one has touched it since i came to > > california. i was also told that it is common knowledge that this > > computer is not able to be repaired. > > Only for suitable values of "common", IMO... > Well, as we don't know how to spend the donated money, I guess that we > should consider to buy buying one (or two, to have some redundancy?) decent, > priceworthy system for the mailing list, ftp and web servers gimp.org needs? > > > i would like to know if anyone else has been able to determine a > > computers health without touching it or plugging it in? > > Telepathy - or, as it is not plugged in, necromancy(sp?)? > that is what i think also -- that there should be some power applied before it can change status like that. i rather liked the berkeley ip when i first got started with gimp. since then, it seems like there are only 1.25 gimp people who have access to hardware there. the way my current take what sort of nightmare i am having is this, that the mozilla people around the berkeley area will never finish with gimp resources and that they might need to be physically removed from them. i am impressed with my own ability to figure out what is going wrong with software, i wonder if the same is true for my ability to figure out what is wrong with the people making software? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HDRI image
Maybe Cinepaint (Filmgimp) supports it: http://www.cinepaint.org // Regards J.J. ons 2005-05-25 klockan 06:00 -0400 skrev Teddy Widhi: > Hi, > > i am newbie in gimp. hope the next feature of GIMP support HDRI image. > > Thank you. > > Teddy Widhi L. > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu > http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Very few of my posts show on the list...
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 12:15:15PM +0200, Rikard Johnels wrote: > Thats just the point! > I send a cc to the list at all times and have done so along our conversation. > And they just dont show up You have nodupes turned on in your list subscription settings. Turn it off you don't like it (this isn't the default, so you must have turned it on at some point). -Yosh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] dbp plug-in problems installing
I was happy to have come across the dbp plug-in, (http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/dbp.html) thanks to this mailing list! But I'm not having too much sucsess installing it... I'm a win xp-gimp user (dummie). I've downloaded all required dll files, and locatede it all in the bin folder under gimp (is this correct?) . Yet I'm getting the following error message: gtk_file_selection_get_filename_uft8 initial point of procedure not found in the library of dynamic connections, libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll. Anybody who can explain to me what to do? kristin -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.16 - Release Date: 24.05.2005 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom Graphire3 and The Gimp
I dont know if the wacom tablet has a left and right button option on the pen. My aiptek does. So I was wondering if anyone knows how to get the pen fully functional. By the way thanks to carol for the code for the wacom tablet. It came in useful for the aiptek as well. all the best. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom Graphire3 and The Gimp
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 08:49:34PM +0100, david thompson wrote: > I dont know if the wacom tablet has a left and right button option on the > pen. > My aiptek does. So I was wondering if anyone knows how to get the pen fully > functional. > > By the way thanks to carol for the code for the wacom tablet. It came in > useful for the aiptek as well. > i must say that out of all the documentation on my web site, this one single page about the tablet displays the least of my knowledge. i feel badly that i have access to such a tablet. i did not draw much before gimp and even less since. i recently tried to loan it to akkana who can probably use it and document it much better than me. i need my scanner back. thanks for the compliments about the tablet info on cgo, i think they are misplaced as well as this tablet tho. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Very few of my posts show on the list...
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 01:36:09PM +0200, Michael Schumacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'ts not that uncommon for a mailing list to have a queue time of one or two > days. > > > And even weeks... > > This, however, can't be considered normal. IIRC, the mailing list system is > slow, but not that slow. Manish Singh should be able to provide details > about it (Carol, do you know anything per chance?) A possible reason is that mails with different From: addresses get held for moderation but nobody does moderation (at least, all my mails that had a different From: address than the one subscribed never reached the lists, and I don't assume they have all been deleted by the moderator). So make sure you use the same From: that you used to subscribe (could be envelope-form, but I doubt that). -- The choice of a -==- _GNU_ ==-- _ generation Marc Lehmann ---==---(_)__ __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / http://schmorp.de/ -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] use of the Space key
Hi, Akkana Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Spacebar to switch temporarily to move is awfully useful. I didn't > know about it until this discussion, but I've often wanted something > like that See, that is exactly my point. The feature is not discoverable and it might make sense to exchange it for something which is probably at least as useful but wider known. > I'm forever switching between move and something else, > for instance when I'm creating lots of different text layers and > need to position each one. That's just a missing feature in the text tool. Of course the text tool should allow you to move text layers. > Do a lot of gimp users not have a middle mouse button? Maybe tablet > users who don't want to put down the stylus and switch to a mouse? > (That would be understandable.) Or is this just because ... that > other program does it that way, and its users are used to it? Because I tried it and I made the experience that it pressing a key with the second hand disturbs the workflow less than to switch mouse buttons. But perhaps this needs actual user testing. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] use of the Space key
Sven Neumann wrote: Spacebar to switch temporarily to move is awfully useful. I didn't know about it until this discussion, but I've often wanted something like that See, that is exactly my point. The feature is not discoverable and it might make sense to exchange it for something which is probably at least as useful but wider known. I'm in the same boat in that I didn't "discover" the current space bar behavior and now that I know about it, I think it's great. The reason I didn't discover it is purely because I never thought to press the space bar at all. I've got no issue with changing the behavior of the space bar but the main point is I didn't know about the behavior associated with the space bar because I never thought to press the space bar, regardless of the functionality associated with it/ Peace... Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A couple of game oriented plug-ins
Il giorno mar, 24-05-2005 alle 17:08 +0200, Centipede ha scritto: > Hope you all aren't too tired of incessantly hearing about my pet > projects :) > I might as well announce the latest one here too (for those of you who > also visits gug.sunsite.dk). They continue where layer styles left > off, but develops into whatever seems a good idea. I have a few more > plug-ins planned for light effects and various gizmos'n'gadgets in > game-style gfx. > > http://artcamilla.dk/vaultage/articles/the6502s/articles-gimp/camilla-game-tools/article.html > > Have fun, > centipede Hi, I installed your plugin but I wasn't able to select brushes. I noticed that the names of brushes starts with OGM so I changed this line in your plugins: self.config[self.name+'-brush' ], 'CGT.*' ) into self.config[self.name+'-brush' ], 'OMG.*' ) and now works better :) A second issue is that "load" and "save" button seem to do nothing :( A third one is that Gimp crashes when I click on two of your brushes in brushes window. The brushes are OGM GV500 Rim 001 Rivets (8x8) and Rock 004 (that is the same of the first). For now I'm only "playing" with your plugins but they seem really useful. Thanks a lot, J ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
