[Gimp-user] carol's art work over on YouTube, Picasa web albums & Cafe Press
Most of this art work was done on Photoshop and my aim is to be able to do it on the Gimp. I'm already doing some of it on the Gimp but it is a transition when you've been doing things one way for a long time. Here are my links to see the work. I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be able to do this completely in Gimp if I set my mind to it. I don't collaborate with any other artists so it doesn't matter what I use. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov0PEa_bI0c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brGVyfG_TWk (my user name on youtube is carolirvin to see other work) central page for my videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=carolirvin http://picasaweb.google.com/carolkirvin (tech educational stuff of mine is on top and art work follow it in bottom of page in albums; chemo art one is newest so right on top of page); this page ties into http://carolkirvin.googlepages.com (my husband and I used to team teach these tech courses and now he does the teaching and I do everything else. I use Google Page Maker to create that web page and I actually like Google Page Maker (also free) better than any hard drive program. it is free too. Google takes out the heavy work of doing web pages and that's fine by me. I used to do it all myself and got tired of all the work, using ftp and so forth. http://www.cafepress.com/carolirvin (art items for sale;affordable, tend to use for gifts and myself more than expecting sales,although I do have some sales over there) I tend to use aspects of my life in my art. The chemo art has come to an end since chemo-cancer seem to be over. My cancer scans are all clear. carol -- carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bit-depth Processing
On 9/29/07, Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appreciate all the info and discussion on this. It's a lot more than > I expected...and that's a good thing. > > I guess what I really want to know is, am I going to see any noticeable > loss if image quality from my 12-bit images? > > Also asked but not answered, are imaged displayed in their original > bit-depth or as 8-bit? > All mainstream displays only support 8bits/component, so while further levels could be simulated with dithering while zoomed in, the display will only be 8bit in the foreseeable future. In most cases the 12bit range is just a more precise version of the 8bit range, so you will not see any difference. using >8 bits per channel is mainly useful for manipulation and HDR purposes; it's not directly relevant to the quality of the display. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop UI
Hi, On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 14:12 -0700, David Southwell wrote: > Wether or no GIMP is planning to develop in ways that will provide > non-destructive editing and full support for raw and 16+ bit is something > that is really relevant and the views of users need to be sought. Yes, GEGL will bring support for high bit depths in the short term and non-destructive editing in the long term. If you had done a little bit of research, you would know that. The future of GIMP will also bring substantial changes to the user interface. How this will look like exactly is currently being worked on by our user interaction designers. This process is open and can be followed at the team's web-site at http://gui.gimp.org/. We are listening to our users. That's why we have this mailing-list and actually read about the problems and needs of our users. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", "save a copy", "save", "open"
Hi, On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 22:40 +0200, Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote: > May be Gimp can auto add/remove Bookmarks? I guess this can give more > problems than adressed. > > Or may be after modifying file-chooser, there will be a place for > app-bookmarks in plus of user-bookmarks? The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4 already makes use of this feature in some places. I am not convinced though that this would be a good way to solve the problems brought up the user who started the thread. Perhaps we need to collect the typical usage scenarios that involve use of the file-chooser and evaluate how the current solution deals with them and if there are ways to improve it. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp selection tool bug
GIMP 2.4.0-rc3 Debian 4 unstable Using selection tools in picture, i can not get "Subtrackt from the current sellection" to work just pressing Ctrl key. Though it is marked on toolbox, that pressing Ctrl should switch subtrackt mode and highlight marks correct entry. Pressing Ctrl turns on Move window mode instead - i can move window the picture is in. If i mark subtrackt mode by mouse - it works as it is intended to work. I believe it is bug, not a feature;) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Selection Across Layers
Hi, > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:29:14 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Selection Across Layers > Quoting Asif Lodhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I've begun using Gimp again after a long time. IIRC, one (more?) tool > > of Gimp had an option of making a selection that went through all the > > layers right to the bottom layer. And, IIRC, having made that type of > > selection in one of the top layers and performing an operation on it > > would carry out the operation on the combined output of all of the > > bottom layers. May be I am wrong here but I do vaguely recall such an > > option after reading on this list about non-destructive editing > > features of a commercial photo-retouching applications. > > To my knowledge, there are no operations which behave that way ... That option is "Merge" or "Merged" something (I can't recall the full option name) in the tool options of, for example, "Select by Color" and "Selection through the Magic Wand". I thought that any operation on the selection so made would be carried out on the "combined output" of all the bottom layers. But I'll explore it more to see if I can achieve the kind of effect that I described earlier. -- Thanks & regards, Asif p.s. I have Gimp on Fedora-7 and not on Windows that I am using to connect to the Internet. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp selection tool bug
Hi, On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 16:12 +0300, vt wrote: > GIMP 2.4.0-rc3 > Debian 4 unstable > > Using selection tools in picture, i can not get "Subtrackt from the current > sellection" to work just pressing Ctrl key. Though it is marked on toolbox, > that pressing Ctrl should switch subtrackt mode and highlight marks correct > entry. Pressing Ctrl turns on Move window mode instead - i can move window > the picture is in. If i mark subtrackt mode by mouse - it works as it is > intended to work. I believe it is bug, not a feature;) Your window manager intercepts the Ctrl key then. There's nothing the application (GIMP) can do. You will have to reconfigure your window manager if you want to use the Ctrl key for GIMP. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp selection tool bug
On 9/30/07, vt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GIMP 2.4.0-rc3 > Debian 4 unstable > > Using selection tools in picture, i can not get "Subtrackt from the current > sellection" to work just pressing Ctrl key. Though it is marked on toolbox, > that pressing Ctrl should switch subtrackt mode and highlight marks correct > entry. Pressing Ctrl turns on Move window mode instead - i can move window > the picture is in. If i mark subtrackt mode by mouse - it works as it is > intended to work. I believe it is bug, not a feature;) > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > It is indeed a bug -- in your window manager. This behaviour has been reported before, and it happens when the window manager steals the Ctrl+Drag combination; Gimp never sees the Ctrl+Drag, because the window manager gets to it first. So you need to reconfigure your window manager. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Selection Across Layers
Hi Owen, > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:51:50 +1000 > From: Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Selection Across Layers > The crop tool cuts through them all. > > http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-crop.html Yes, thanks. But I have found the "tool option" which is probably called "Merged Layers" ro something on my Fedora installation. It's available in the tool-options of "Select by Color" and "Selection by the Magic Wand" tools - and probably one other (more?) tool. I'll explore it using the docs. -- Best regards, Asif ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] carol's art work over on YouTube, Picasa web albums & Cafe Press
On Sunday 30 September 2007 03:26:33 carol irvin wrote: > I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be able to do this > completely in Gimp if I set my mind to it. I don't > collaborate with any other artists so it doesn't matter what > I use. More than that, you have people you can actually ask to *change* what GIMP does -- & they might, whereas PS is nailed in stone (or really, nailed to the whims & aspirations of their developers' managers) so won't listen if you're less than Ford, or Boeing, or NASA, or Brazil. So by all means contribute to Wilbur's breeding, if you see a facility which might be useful but doesn't exist yet. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as ", " save a copy ", "save", " open"
On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:10:46 Sven Neumann wrote: > The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4 > already makes use of this feature in some places. I am not > convinced though that this would be a good way to solve the > problems brought up the user who started the thread. I am imagining a short drop-down history of places one last saved things, preferably with a shortcut key (Ins? Who knows?) which will instantly recall the most recent one. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop UI
On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:06:09 Sven Neumann wrote: > We are listening to our users. That's why we have this mailing- > list and actually read about the problems and needs of our > users. Round of applause, that sentiment. (-: Now I need to organise my own life better so I can make space to actually contribute code, rather than just words. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", " save a copy ", "save", "open"
Leon Brooks GIMP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sep 30, 2007 16:51 -0400 (in part): On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:10:46 Sven Neumann wrote: > The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4 > already makes use of this feature in some places. I am not > convinced though that this would be a good way to solve the > problems brought up the user who started the thread. I am imagining a short drop-down history of places one last saved things, preferably with a shortcut key (Ins? Who knows?) which will instantly recall the most recent one. Is any one familiar with Windows-only File-Ex http://www.cottonwoodsw.com ? (It has a 30-day trial period) IMO it turns the standard windows File-Open File-Save dialogs into things of beauty. If Gimp's (aka GTK+ do I have the relationship correct?) Open-Save dialogs could emulate that cross-platform I think it would be ideal! (And satisfy everything Leon has asked for.) Full disclosure - I did a lot of beta-testing for this in its upgrade from Win9x to Win2K/XP and am perhaps biased. Note: author has recently added a note that its not Vista-ready (and may or may not ever be :-( ). That alone is sufficient to keep me on WinXp as long as possible. Regards ... Alec -- buralex-gmail -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop UI
Sven, I have an idea for something which might be fun to do as a group and educational as well. Each person (who wanted to participate) would take an art step phase further using GIMP until we had a completed art work. For example, let's say you'd start it using a brush. Then maybe I'd go into what you did with an eraser and make it something else. Then maybe Leon would use both versions as layers and run the two through the modes (multiple, burn, dodge, etc.,) until finding his own versionand so on down the line. each person would explain what he did in GIMP to get to his phase as well. I find learning by doing is a lot more fun and makes things flow faster too. If people are worried about ending up with mud, they needn't. I could finish off whatever we come up with so it worked (put it artistically back on track). I have found that I do not need to use the most complex techniques in order to come with good artistic results in Photoshop and I assume the same is true in Gimp. This is one thing I don't like in the Photoshop community too, i.e., the slavishness devoted to difficulty of technique or memorizing keyboard shortcuts versus exploration of a worthwhile artistic idea (which may actually be fairly easy to achieve if the idea itself is good enough). The only thing we have to figure out is where we post all the work. If you want to have everyone forward it to me, I can mount it all in an album in Picasa Web Albums as one solution. I have one technical question about this list. Do I also need to send this reply to the list or does replying to anyone send it automatically to the list? This one shows the answer going to Leon but doesn't show the list so I am adding the list as a 2nd receipient. I don't understand if simply sending it to Leon would also send it to the list. It didn't when I was on listservs on yahoo. Also, how many of you on this list are developers for GIMP? I do not personally have any affinity for working in code. I can go to the code and understand most of it on a web page when I'm building a web page. However, I don't have the slightest idea how one goes about building an actual program! carol On 9/30/07, Leon Brooks GIMP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:06:09 Sven Neumann wrote: > > We are listening to our users. That's why we have this mailing- > > list and actually read about the problems and needs of our > > users. > > Round of applause, that sentiment. (-: > > Now I need to organise my own life better so I can make space > to actually contribute code, rather than just words. > > Cheers; Leon > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > -- carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", " save a copy ", "save", "open"
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-30-07 18:57]: > That alone is sufficient to keep me on WinXp as long as possible. I will pray for you.In linux. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs art (was: Photoshop UI)
On Monday 01 October 2007 08:48:09 you wrote: > Each person (who wanted to participate) would take an art > step phase further using GIMP until we had a completed art > work. For example, let's say you'd start it using a brush. > Then maybe I'd go into what you did with an eraser and make > it something else. Then maybe [self] would use both versions > as layers and run the two through the modes (multiple, burn, > dodge, etc.,) until finding his own versionand so on down > the line. each person would explain what he did in GIMP to > get to his phase as well. Since my skills as an artist are kind of regrettable, I very much like this idea & would like to second it, or whatever. Doing something by degrees makes it a lot less daunting, & if I managed to muck something up, it would be my own copy only, (a feature difficult to replicate with physical artworks :-). Besides that, mucking something up is a lesson in itself, both to warn others & because someone else might be able to imagine a way to make the original idea work. I think dumping the results on a Wiki would be helpful, also, both to make fetching a starting-point relatively simple, & to keep a kind of history of what various people have tried. The history is also useful for both inspiration & correction. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", " save a copy ", "save", "open"
On Monday 01 October 2007 08:56:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Note: author has recently added a note that its not Vista- > ready (and may or may not ever be :-( ). That alone is > sufficient to keep me on WinXp as long as possible. Or to inspire you to make a really robust & portable GTK version which *will* run on Vista. At least under GIMP if nowhere else. (-: An advantage to making it fly under GTK is that it then becomes reasonable to use the features with other apps, naturally including file managers. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", " save a copy ", "save", "open"
On Monday 01 October 2007 09:55:19 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > I will pray for you. In linux. What, not in Plan9? Or Hurd? Where's your ambition? (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] carol & the floating selection (now working in layers!)
ok, guys, i was wondering if i finally had this floating selection problem solved because i am pretty much dead in the water without layers and cut and paste. so i opened gimp and just used the default black brush and made a bunch of black squiggles on a white canvas. then i altered that version with a filter. and, drum roll please, made them into two layers! well, from there on it was a lot of fun as I just tried different tools and different settings until I had something that looked like a painting instead of squiggles. I have called the squiggles begin and where i ended up as end as you can see them in this album called GIMP located here: http://picasaweb.google.com/carolkirvin best way to see them is in slideshow. some of the things i used: several filters (blinds and weave were the best), shear, colorify, poster, levels, eraser, hue-saturation, layer modes (all the time, as per usual; I am constantly blending and reblending layers ). i had never tried shear before in GIMP and that really helped bring it together too. i did try some things that didn't work and that always happens as i'm playing around. i either revert or go into history, depending on how far off course i've gone. i spent about 45 minutes to an hour on it. it was fun. -- carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] carol & the floating selection (now working in layers!)
On Monday 01 October 2007 13:57:40 carol irvin wrote: > then i altered that version with a filter. and, drum roll > please, made them into two layers! Tah-daaah! Round of applause! (-: Perhaps GIMP can develop some new modes so that future versions of plugins etc can *optionally* make a new layer as they go? Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop UI
Hi, On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 18:48 -0400, carol irvin wrote: > I have one technical question about this list. Do I also need to send > this reply to the list or does replying to anyone send it > automatically to the list? There's no magic going on. Your answer goes to the recipients that your mail client shows as recipients and to no one else. If your mail client has a "Reply to All" feature, I suggest that you use that when replying to mails from the list. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
