Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating and shifting image
Von: Gabor Urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. I would like to shift the image, it remained in the center of the layer. I don't think that I can reproduce this. Did you use the move tool? http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-move.html 2. I woud like to rotate it, but not with fixed angle. This is what the rotate tool will do: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-rotate.html HTH, Michael -- Sensationsangebot nur bis 30.11: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
--- michael chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell the gimp developers that. I don't know. Honestly. Perhaps I'll submit a patch? ;-) Walking ants means it's not a layer... it's a floating selection... [see my later message]. Solution: Make the floating layer non floating - by putting it on another layer. Well, it does say, in the Layers, Channels, Paths, Undo-window, Floating Selection (Pasted Layer). But it doesn't matter. I know now how to work with it. It was very confusing and different to how I thought it would work (I'm used to working with layers in CAD-software (CATIA V4, Unigraphics). Thanks for the input! Best regards Peter K _ Gratis e-postadress --- http://www.mailamig.nu ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
--- sam ende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: awfully complicated, why don't do you skip the create new pic bit and chose 'paste as new' ? Oh, ok. Didn't know about that. Thanks! yes. after doing 'paste' you need to go to the layers menu and right click on the floating layer and select 'new layer' that will make the whole layer visible after you've increased the canvas size. i have no idea why you're working this convoluted though. why not just copy/paste as new and then rotate the image rather than the layer ? Ok, I've tried it and it works. I wouldn't agree on me complicating things; I'm just not used to the Gimp-way(tm) (though I have used gimp for a number of years, but only for simple things). :-) Here's how I would _like_ it to work: I should be able to move any layer freely about and manipulating it separately from the rest of the layers (and the pic/canvas). This is how layers work in CAD-software (to which I am used to). If I have to anchor the floating layer, then I'll have to perform additional steps if there's another manipulation I would like to do to the layer (without affecting the whole image/pic/canvas). But I guess I can emulate this behaviour with multiple pictures. But I can work with the current way. The New Layer was a bit unintuitive (at least I think so). i'd be suprised if you did, it's layer/center layer. :) Unfortunately I don't have that either... :-( Thanks for educating me! Best regards Peter K _ Gratis e-postadress --- http://www.mailamig.nu ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
Von: Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I should be able to move any layer freely about and manipulating it separately from the rest of the layers (and the pic/canvas). You can do this, at least I don't get what your problems with this are. This is how layers work in CAD-software (to which I am used to). If I have to anchor the floating layer, then I'll have to perform additional steps if there's another manipulation I would like to do to the layer (without affecting the whole image/pic/canvas). Especially, I don't get why doing something on a layer - even temprarily hovering and anchoring a selection - should affect the whole image. Anchoring is just a click outside the floating selection, so it's not many additional steps. BTW, could you explain what each of the image/pic/canvas mean to you? But I guess I can emulate this behaviour with multiple pictures. It might be a good thing to describe the workflow you're used to, then we could try to translate it into GIMP terminology for you. HTH, Michael -- 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
--- sam ende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh :), even easier is image/duplicate :) You learn something new each day (which is a good thing(tm))... :-) yes, me too :) Goodie! ;-) i'm really not sure why or what you mean. turning it into a layer doesn't anchor it, you can perform most functions on that layer without affecting the image or other layers (just make sure you have the right layer selected), but maybe i'm misunderstanding and i have no idea how cad works. Or maybe it's me that's misunderstood... :-) If I interpret you correctly it does work the way I want it to, sort of. yes. and the thing is , to my mind, gimps getting more unintuitive with every upgrade/new release. i think these programmers don't have much idea how the non-programmer mind works. nevermind :) I would say that different people think differently (I odd bits of programming myself). But I guess technical people usually disregard the user interface and design whatever which is easier for them... you don't ?, are you using windows gimp or something ? No, I wouldn't touch ms windows with a ten-foot pole. I use gnu/linux (gentoo). yuck, i hope i wasn't doing that :) glad you got it to work though :) Why yuck? Thanks again! Best regards Peter K _ Gratis e-postadress --- http://www.mailamig.nu ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
--- Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can do this, at least I don't get what your problems with this are. Ok, then I stand corrected. I just thought that it didn't. Especially, I don't get why doing something on a layer - even temprarily hovering and anchoring a selection - should affect the whole image. Anchoring is just a click outside the floating selection, so it's not many Well, the thing that tricked me into thinking so was that one had to transform the floating selection into a new layer. I thought of the selection as just another layer, not a special one... additional steps. BTW, could you explain what each of the image/pic/canvas mean to you? Afaiu, image=picture=canvas. It might be a good thing to describe the workflow you're used to, then we could try to translate it into GIMP terminology for you. In a cad-program one works with completely separated elements (which can be merged in one way or another). One can group these elements together by using, for instance, layers (which is a loose kind of grouping). Of course the layered elements can share attributes like colour, thickness and others. These elements can be manipulated without affecting the others (if you so choose). There is no real equivalent to making a flat image (except maybe making a dead model). Iiuc, you can work like this in gimp (sort of at least): * All images has at least one layer (the background - right?) * You can put more layers on top each other and work with them separately, you can also re-arrange them. * The floating selection is a kind of layer, which requires special handling. * If you want to manipulate the floating selection, like I did, I have to transform it into a new layer by choosing layer/new layer, which to me is rather unintuitive (which shouldn't be taken as a form of criticism - just that people think differently). If I don't do this I get the cropped images when I save it as a jpeg (or any other non-layered format, or flatten the image), even though I adjust the canvas to fit the layer. Is this about correct? Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen Peter K _ Gratis e-postadress --- http://www.mailamig.nu ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
On 8/8/05, Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can do this, at least I don't get what your problems with this are. Ok, then I stand corrected. I just thought that it didn't. Especially, I don't get why doing something on a layer - even temprarily hovering and anchoring a selection - should affect the whole image. Anchoring is just a click outside the floating selection, so it's not many Well, the thing that tricked me into thinking so was that one had to transform the floating selection into a new layer. I thought of the selection as just another layer, not a special one... additional steps. BTW, could you explain what each of the image/pic/canvas mean to you? Afaiu, image=picture=canvas. It might be a good thing to describe the workflow you're used to, then we could try to translate it into GIMP terminology for you. In a cad-program one works with completely separated elements (which can be merged in one way or another). One can group these elements together by using, for instance, layers (which is a loose kind of grouping). Of course the layered elements can share attributes like colour, thickness and others. These elements can be manipulated without affecting the others (if you so choose). There is no real equivalent to making a flat image (except maybe making a dead model). Iiuc, you can work like this in gimp (sort of at least): * All images has at least one layer (the background - right?) * You can put more layers on top each other and work with them separately, you can also re-arrange them. * The floating selection is a kind of layer, which requires special handling. * If you want to manipulate the floating selection, like I did, I have to transform it into a new layer by choosing layer/new layer, which to me is rather unintuitive (which shouldn't be taken as a form of criticism - just that people think differently). If I don't do this I get the cropped images when I save it as a jpeg (or any other non-layered format, or flatten the image), even though I adjust the canvas to fit the layer. I believe GIMP can do everything you want, except transform everything as a group. *sigh* If you can transform everything as a group, I have no clue how to do it. -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
On Monday 08 August 2005 15:33, michael chang wrote: I believe GIMP can do everything you want, except transform everything as a group. *sigh* If you can transform everything as a group, I have no clue how to do it. under filters there is the option of filter all layers which allows quite a lot of functions, click on it to see. sammi ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
Hi, michael chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe GIMP can do everything you want, except transform everything as a group. *sigh* If you can transform everything as a group, I have no clue how to do it. Simply link the layers in the Layers dialog, then transform a member of the group, they will all undergo the same transformation. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
Hi, Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to rotate an image (which is in a layer) by 90 degrees which is taller than it's width. So when I rotate it, gimp will automatically crop the image no matter what I do. I have the Clip result unchecked. Gimp 2.2.8. How do I remedy this (I'm stumped)? Use the rotate functions found in the Image-Transforms menu. After all it appears that you want to rotate the image, not only the layer. BTW, the layer isn't cropped, it just extends beyond the canvas. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
--- sam ende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: either rotate the whole image (image/transform) or try increasing the canvas size (image/canvas size) in height to the width of the image/layer before rotating. Ok, that works. Thank you! But why would gimp crop the image? I tried resizing the canvas to fit the layer (after doing the rotate, with Image/Fit canvas to layer), before sending my first mail. If gimp isn't cropping the layer then how do I get the missing parts back? Thanks to all who replied! Best regards Peter K _ Gratis e-postadress --- http://www.mailamig.nu ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
--- sam ende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't think it is cropping. i just tried that, but then maybe you have to do image/center layer afterwards ?, try that. Ok, perhaps I need to elaborate... First open an picture (which should be rectangular in shape). Then copy the picture (or a part of it). Create a new pic (under File/New). Paste (a regular paste into the new pic). Click on the rotate icon and then click on the pasted layer. Rotate arbitrarily and confirm by pressing the Rotate button. Try Image/Fit canvas to layer. Here my pic is missing the information that ended up outside of the canvas boundaries when I rotated. I don't have a function called Image/Center layer. unless (perhaps), you have other layers underneath which are not visible. Well, the only layer I have, except the pasted one, is the Background. Best regards Peter K _ Gratis e-postadress --- http://www.mailamig.nu ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
On 8/7/05, Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, perhaps I need to elaborate... First open an picture (which should be rectangular in shape). Then copy the picture (or a part of it). Create a new pic (under File/New). Paste (a regular paste into the new pic). Click on the rotate icon and then click on the pasted layer. Rotate arbitrarily and confirm by pressing the Rotate button. YES. You *should* elaborate. The reason this is happening is because your picture is in a selection floating above the picture! Why is this useful? So I can paste something, and then move it around a bit to figure out where I want it. Solution: Click outside the selection boundaries before rotating. -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
--- michael chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It won't. But some people would like to keep an entire layer's data, but only have some of it visible. I've done things like that before. *shrugs* Seems reasonable I guess. But wouldn't it be easier to use if all of the layer were visible and hide some of it by choosing it? Change the image size, I believe. Also, if you're fitting canvas to layer, make sure you have the clipped layer selected (you have more than one, yes or no?). I have only the clipped layer and the background layer. Isn't changing the image size and changing the canvas the same thing? Anyway in all attempts the clipped layer was selected (since it's the only thing I've manipulated); the layer had the walking ants around it. Thanks anyway! Best regards Peter K _ Gratis e-postadress --- http://www.mailamig.nu ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotating an image
On 8/7/05, Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- michael chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It won't. But some people would like to keep an entire layer's data, but only have some of it visible. I've done things like that before. *shrugs* Seems reasonable I guess. But wouldn't it be easier to use if all of the layer were visible and hide some of it by choosing it? Tell the gimp developers that. I don't know. Honestly. Change the image size, I believe. Also, if you're fitting canvas to layer, make sure you have the clipped layer selected (you have more than one, yes or no?). I have only the clipped layer and the background layer. Isn't changing the image size and changing the canvas the same thing? Anyway in all attempts the clipped layer was selected (since it's the only thing I've manipulated); the layer had the walking ants around it. Walking ants means it's not a layer... it's a floating selection... [see my later message]. Solution: Make the floating layer non floating - by putting it on another layer. -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [gimp-user] rotating
Hi, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The popup when the mouse is over it says rotation, shearing, scaling, perspective. But I was unable (and the manpage is something like yet to be written for at least 1/2 of those functions) unable to get it out of the rotation mode and into one of the last 3 modes. How is this done? I tried the usual suspects of shift clicking and didn't seem to hit the magic twanger on the other functions. Double-Click the tool icon in the toolbox to open the tool options dialog. You should really have this dialog open all the time in order to make use of the full feature-set of The GIMP. Gimp is 1.2.3. We improved this in GIMP-1.3. I'm sure you would have found the rotation feature in the CVS version of The GIMP. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [gimp-user] rotating
Hi! The popup when the mouse is over it says rotation, shearing, scaling, perspective. But I was unable (and the manpage is something like yet to be written for at least 1/2 of those functions) unable to get it out of the rotation mode and into one of the last 3 modes. How is this done? I tried the usual suspects of shift clicking and didn't seem to hit the magic twanger on the other functions. Gimp is 1.2.3. Try double clicking on the button in the main menu, the 'Tool Options' menu should open. Or you can get this menu by selecting 'File', then 'Dialogs' and then 'Tool Options' from the main menu. Carsten ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [gimp-user] rotating
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 13:41, Gene Heskett wrote: The popup when the mouse is over it says rotation, shearing, scaling, perspective. But I was unable (and the manpage is something like yet to be written for at least 1/2 of those functions) unable to get it out of the rotation mode and into one of the last 3 modes. How is this done? I tried the usual suspects of shift clicking and didn't seem to hit the magic twanger on the other functions. Gimp is 1.2.3. You need to double-click on the tool in the toolbox to get to the tool options. This goes for all the tools. Another way to show the tool options is to use the menu File/Dialogs/Tool Options... Sincerely, ./Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [gimp-user] rotating
On Monday 16 June 2003 08:54, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The popup when the mouse is over it says rotation, shearing, scaling, perspective. But I was unable (and the manpage is something like yet to be written for at least 1/2 of those functions) unable to get it out of the rotation mode and into one of the last 3 modes. How is this done? I tried the usual suspects of shift clicking and didn't seem to hit the magic twanger on the other functions. Double-Click the tool icon in the toolbox to open the tool options dialog. You should really have this dialog open all the time in order to make use of the full feature-set of The GIMP. Kewl! Ok, one other function I need, the ability to draw a straight line between two marked points. So far all I've found is the free-hand stuff and these ancient, getting shaky hands no longer run a mouse in anything like a straight line. Is that similarly hidden? Gimp is 1.2.3. We improved this in GIMP-1.3. I'm sure you would have found the rotation feature in the CVS version of The GIMP. I may try to build 1.2.5, I see its out for 2-3 days now. Will it build on RH8.0? Sven -- Cheers Sven, Gene AMD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 320M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512M 99.26% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attornies please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2003 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [gimp-user] rotating
On Monday 16 June 2003 08:47, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 13:41, Gene Heskett wrote: The popup when the mouse is over it says rotation, shearing, scaling, perspective. But I was unable (and the manpage is something like yet to be written for at least 1/2 of those functions) unable to get it out of the rotation mode and into one of the last 3 modes. How is this done? I tried the usual suspects of shift clicking and didn't seem to hit the magic twanger on the other functions. Gimp is 1.2.3. You need to double-click on the tool in the toolbox to get to the tool options. This goes for all the tools. Another way to show the tool options is to use the menu File/Dialogs/Tool Options... Thanks. You can tell rather obviously that I am not a graphics artist. :( Sincerely, ./Brix -- Cheers, Gene AMD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 320M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512M 99.26% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attornies please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2003 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [gimp-user] rotating
Hi, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kewl! Ok, one other function I need, the ability to draw a straight line between two marked points. So far all I've found is the free-hand stuff and these ancient, getting shaky hands no longer run a mouse in anything like a straight line. Is that similarly hidden? http://mmmaybe.gimp.org/tutorials/Straight_Line/ Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [gimp-user] rotating
On Monday 16 June 2003 13:14, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kewl! Ok, one other function I need, the ability to draw a straight line between two marked points. So far all I've found is the free-hand stuff and these ancient, getting shaky hands no longer run a mouse in anything like a straight line. Is that similarly hidden? http://mmmaybe.gimp.org/tutorials/Straight_Line/ Great! I backed out one level and bookmarked it for future reference, thanks. Sven -- Cheers Sven, Gene AMD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 320M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512M 99.26% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attornies please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2003 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [gimp-user] rotating
On Sunday 15 June 2003 16:06, Liz Quilty wrote: Ahhh! thank you! I knew I had used it before I just couldnt find it :/ Must be monday. Thanks! Liz Q On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 07:36, João Carlos Fernandes Pinheiro wrote: Hi! Yes it is. On the main menu the second button on the right, counting from top allows you to rotate you image freely. What version of gimp? I don't recall running into that. And there is one application where I would love to have the curve generation ability of imagemajick available, that of drawing the 4/3rds earth curvatures for a microwave radio path, where one must mentally plug in the 11 feet per mile curvature when estimating obstruction clearances. None of the mapping utils (such as MapTech for winderz) in the sub 1000 dollar area give anything but straight line plots to the here to there profile outputs. And none allow the point to points to be elevated above the terrain to simulate a tower of x feet height. The ability to do that curve would no doubt speed up the deployment of 802-11 stuffs into those rural areas where there isn't x customers per square mile to make it profitable and attractive to the VC folks. On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 20:31, Liz Quilty wrote: Is it possible to rotate an image with gimp 1-2 degrees rather than only 90 degree angles? I dont appear to be able to find any options anywhere :/ LQ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Cheers, Gene AMD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 320M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512M 99.26% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attornies please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2003 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
