Re: [gmx-users] make_ndx

2007-10-24 Thread Mark Abraham

sarbani chattopadhyay wrote:

  hi,
I want to select two groups in the index file, one group consisting 
of only the aromatic
ring of phenylalanine and the other group consisting of only the alpha 
carbon.

I want to  know the way to use the make_ndx command for this.


After entering make_ndx, you can use hRETURN to get some primitive 
help.


In this case, you can most quickly solve your problem by hand-editing. 
See http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Index_File


Mark
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Re: Re: [gmx-users] make_ndx

2007-10-24 Thread sarbani chattopadhyay
  Thanks Mark,
  I could do it following your suggestion.

  Sarbani


On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 Mark Abraham wrote :
sarbani chattopadhyay wrote:
   hi,
 I want to select two groups in the index file, one group consisting of 
 only the 
aromatic
ring of phenylalanine and the other group consisting of only the alpha carbon.
I want to  know the way to use the make_ndx command for this.

After entering make_ndx, you can use hRETURN to get some primitive help.

In this case, you can most quickly solve your problem by hand-editing. See 
http://
wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Index_File

Mark
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RE: [gmx-users] missing Ryckaert-Bell in 3.3.2 is now considered asERROR?

2007-10-24 Thread Berk Hess





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Subject: [gmx-users] missing Ryckaert-Bell in 3.3.2 is now considered 
asERROR?

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:14:55 +0200

Hi all,

has the default behaviour of 3.3.1 - 3.3.2 changed from Warning to Errors
concerning this?:

AFAIR in 3.3.1
WARNING ...
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types, using zeroes

to:

ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 159]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types

in 3.3.2


Yes.
We should have done this years ago, but I wasn't really aware of this issue,
since I always make proper topologies :)

The new -zero option of grompp changes the behavior back to the old one.

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[gmx-users] surface tension calculation in g_energy

2007-10-24 Thread Bo Zhou
Hi all,

   I use the option #Surf*SurfTens in g_engery to calculate the surface
tension, but I find that I really do not know how it works after I get some
inconsistent results compared with the calculation using the formula gamma
= 0.5*(Pzz - (Pxx+Pyy)/2) * Lz ( there are two surfaces here and the
surfaces in normal to the Z-axis).

 

Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift
Tot-Drift


---

#Surf*SurfTen1136.52557.05   2557 0.00852598
51.1559

 

==  ###  ==

  A V E R A G E S  

==  ###  ==

   Pressure (bar)

   -1.93061e+02   -6.88599e-01   -1.66823e-02

   -6.84564e-01   -1.93953e+02   -2.93803e-02

7.79006e-03   -6.97915e-03   -9.87987e+01

 

The #Surf*SurfTens gives a value 568.25 bar*nm, and gamma = 0.5*(Pzz -
(Pxx+Pyy)/2) * Lz gives a value 473.54 bar*nm. Please give me some
suggestions about the inconsistency. Thanks in advance.

 

 

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Re: [gmx-users] surface tension calculation in g_energy

2007-10-24 Thread David van der Spoel

Bo Zhou wrote:



Hi all,

   I use the option “#Surf*SurfTens” in g_engery to calculate the 
surface tension, but I find that I really do not know how it works after 
I get some inconsistent results compared with the calculation using the 
formula “gamma = 0.5*(Pzz - (Pxx+Pyy)/2) * Lz” ( there are two surfaces 
here and the surfaces in normal to the Z-axis).


 

Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift  
Tot-Drift


--- 



#Surf*SurfTen1136.52557.05   2557 0.00852598
51.1559


 


==  ###  ==

  A V E R A G E S  

==  ###  ==

   Pressure (bar)

   -1.93061e+02   -6.88599e-01   -1.66823e-02

   -6.84564e-01   -1.93953e+02   -2.93803e-02

7.79006e-03   -6.97915e-03   -9.87987e+01

 

The “#Surf*SurfTens” gives a value 568.25 bar*nm, and “gamma = 0.5*(Pzz 
- (Pxx+Pyy)/2) * Lz” gives a value 473.54 bar*nm. Please give me some 
suggestions about the inconsistency. Thanks in advance.


How did you calculate it? Did you divide the average pressures by the 
average box length? Or did you compute gamma for each step and average 
that (this is automatically done in the simulation and stored in the 
energy file). The two ways of computing are not the same.


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Re: [gmx-users] g_rmsf and pbc

2007-10-24 Thread tangxuan
I tried trjconv -pbc nojump to the whole protein and then calculated
the rmsf of the subunits. This method seems good to some separate
subunits, but  other separate subunits still have strange high rmsf
values. I try trjconv -pbc mol too, and i have got same results. In
this simulation,the subunits are separate in the first frame. Do you
have any other methods to solve this problem?

On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 17:18 +0200, David van der Spoel wrote:
 tangxuan wrote:
  Mark,thanks for your reply. I am not sure what happened and  I can show
  you the error message,
  Group   101 ( chK_chM) has  4070 elements
  Group   102 ( chM_chO) has  4070 elements
  Group   103 ( chO_chI) has  4070 elements
  Group   104 ( chJ_chL) has  4070 elements
  Group   105 ( chL_chN) has  4070 elements
  Group   106 ( chN_chP) has  4070 elements
  Group   107 ( chP_chJ) has  4070 elements
  Select a group: 22
  Selected 22: 'chC'
  Reading frame   1 time 20001.000   Segmentation fault
  [miro:~/rubisco-2/chlamy_wt] % more chlamy_wt.xtc 
  Thanks.
  Tang jiaowei
  
 most likely the tpr and xtc files have different number of atoms.
 
 as for your original problem, try trjconv -pbc mol in version 3.3.2
 
 
  On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 00:43 +1000, Mark Abraham wrote:
  tangxuan wrote:
  Dear all,
 The protein I am working on is rubisco, consisting of 8 identical
  large subunits and 8 identical small subunits. I try to calculate RMSF
  for each large subunits, but the rmsf values seems  much large to some
  large subunits. So I check the first frame of the protein structutre,
  and I found that these large subunits having large rmsf values seems
  separate in the box. Then I tried to use trjconv -pbc nojump to remove
  the jump for each of them in the xtc file. When I use new xtc file and
  original tpr file to calculate the rmsf, it shows  Segmentation fault
  error. This may be because  the coordinators of atoms in the tpr file
  are very diffrent from that in the fist frame. Do you know how to solve
  this problem?
  GROMACS does an inexplicable segfault almost never. It's highly likely 
  that either there's more of an error message than you've said, or that 
  the problem is the result some catastrophic filesystem or OS issue.
 
  Mark
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[gmx-users] reference for urea.itp

2007-10-24 Thread rzangi

Does anyone know the reference for the parameters for urea in the urea.itp file 
(found in the top directory)?

Thanks,

Ronen
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Re: [gmx-users] alpha Carbon-Aromatic ring hydrogen bond

2007-10-24 Thread Alok
Hi Sarbani,

If I understand correctly your problem, you want to know hydrogen bond between 
center of the aromatic ring and CA hydrogen atom with time, you can do this in 
two steps (if you are not considering angle criteria).

1) first create the index files which should have two extra  groups first one 
contain only ring carbon atoms of your aromatic residue and second one with 
only CA hydrogen of your interest by using make_ndx tool of GROMACS.

you have to supply *.gro file to make_ndx tools and type
a   c1 c2 c3 c4 c5 c6  (here c1,c2,c3,c4,c5,c6 are your ring carbon atom no)
a   ca1 (here ca1 is your CA hydrogen atom no)
then you will get new index file containing these two groups.

2) Calculate the distance between these two groups using g_dist (as mark 
already suggested).

Hope it will help.

Alok
  - Original Message - 
  From: sarbani chattopadhyay 
  To: gmx-users@gromacs.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:18 PM
  Subject: [gmx-users] alpha Carbon-Aromatic ring hydrogen bond


Hi,
  I want to analyze the Hydrogen bond between alpha Hydrogen and aromatic 
ring over 
  the simulation time.g_hbond can't recognise this bond.is there any command by 
which i can 
  do that?

Sarbani







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Re: [gmx-users] solvate using genbox results in water in the center ofthe bilayer. How to edit pdb file contents in gromacs ?

2007-10-24 Thread Alok
Hello Maria,

You can do it by two different methods.

1) You can increase the default VdW radii of the lipid atoms in  
/usr/local/gromacs/share/top/vdwradii.dat file (path might be different from 
your system), say 0.5 for carbon, so genbox will not add the water inside the 
bilayer. but you will find a gap between lipid head groups and water molecules 
which can be resolved after some ps dynamics. (I personally have not yet got 
the success ;-) )

2) You can write a small script which can delete these water molecules, I wrote 
a script for the same if you need contact me offline.

Hope it will help

Alok
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  From: maria goranovic 
  To: gmx-users@gromacs.org 
  Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 3:57 PM
  Subject: [gmx-users] solvate using genbox results in water in the center 
ofthe bilayer. How to edit pdb file contents in gromacs ?


  Hi

  I am using editconf to try to add water layers on either side of my bilayer. 
I use the following command:

  genbox -cp popc.gro -box 12.47820 12.35940 10.0 -o solvated.gro -cs 
spc216.gro -p topology.top

  However, because the center of the bilayer region is less dense, a lot of 
water molecules are created inside the bilayer.


  - How does one usually edit pdb files in gromacs, in terms of, for example, 
removing water molecules from the center of a bilayer ?

  Thank you

  -Maria



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Re: [gmx-users] reference for urea.itp

2007-10-24 Thread David van der Spoel

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Does anyone know the reference for the parameters for urea in the urea.itp file 
(found in the top directory)?



Please don't use it as is. Check literature for better models.



Thanks,

Ronen
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Re: [gmx-users] reference for urea.itp

2007-10-24 Thread rzangi

Thanks. I am looking at other models as well, but was wondering how the numbers 
in urea.itp were obtained. What type of properties they were parametrized for?

Ronen

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does anyone know the reference for the parameters for urea in the urea.itp 
 file (found in the top directory)?
  
 
 Please don't use it as is. Check literature for better models.
 
 
  Thanks,
  
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Re: [gmx-users] reference for urea.itp

2007-10-24 Thread David van der Spoel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks. I am looking at other models as well, but was wondering how the numbers 
in urea.itp were obtained. What type of properties they were parametrized for?


none. just copied from the gromos 87 ff.

Ronen

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know the reference for the parameters for urea in the urea.itp 

file (found in the top directory)?
Please don't use it as is. Check literature for better models.



Thanks,

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[gmx-users] g_energy has no bond entry when MD analysis

2007-10-24 Thread xi zhao
Dear friends:
  when my MD was finished and I want to analyse the bond energy of the protein 
,but g_energy did not show bond entry: the first entry is angle? When energy 
miniumzation  finished,g_energy did show G96 bond. why?
  Please help me! 
  Thank you! 

   
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Re: [gmx-users] g_energy has no bond entry when MD analysis

2007-10-24 Thread Mark Abraham
 Dear friends:
   when my MD was finished and I want to analyse the bond energy of the
 protein ,but g_energy did not show bond entry: the first entry is angle?
 When energy miniumzation  finished,g_energy did show G96 bond. why?

So, when did you use bond length constraints? What effect would they have?

Mark

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回复: Re: [gmx-users] g_energy has no bond entry when MD analysis

2007-10-24 Thread xi zhao

Yes, I use bond constraints! 
Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道:   Dear friends:
 when my MD was finished and I want to analyse the bond energy of the
 protein ,but g_energy did not show bond entry: the first entry is angle?
 When energy miniumzation finished,g_energy did show G96 bond. why?

So, when did you use bond length constraints? What effect would they have?

Mark

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[gmx-users] solvate using genbox results in water in the center ofthe bilayer. How to edit pdb file contents in gromacs ?

2007-10-24 Thread chris . neale

You can do it by two different methods.

1) You can increase the default VdW radii of the lipid atoms in  /usr/local/
gromacs/share/top/vdwradii.dat file (path might be different from  
your system), say 0.5 for carbon, so genbox will not add the water  
inside the bilayer.


Cleaner method is to:
cp /usr/local/gromacs/share/top/vdwradii.dat ./vdwradii.dat
and then modify the local file.

but you will find a gap between lipid head groups and water  
molecules which can be resolved after some ps dynamics. (I  
personally have not yet got the success ;-) )


Do I understand you to say that for you the gap does not completely  
dissapear in 500ps? Did you use semiisotropic coupling? Otherwise it  
will be more difficult for this space to fill in. It should fill in  
really quite quickly (500ps)... has for me.


2) You can write a small script which can delete these water  
molecules, I wrote a script for the same if you need contact me  
offline.


I have previously posted such a script. It takes 10-30 minutes to run  
since it's not sophisticated, but it does work very well.


http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-May/021526.html

I forgot to mention that in the previously referenced script there is  
an assumption that you use a 3 atom water molecule. If you use tip4p  
then you would want


  if [ $count = 3 ]; then
count=0
  fi

to be changed to:

  if [ $count = 4 ]; then
count=0
  fi

and etc for tip5p.



Hope it will help

Alok
 - Original Message -

 Hi

I am using editconf to try to add water layers on either side of my  
bilayer. I use the following command:
genbox -cp popc.gro -box 12.47820 12.35940 10.0 -o solvated.gro -cs  
spc216.gro -p topology.top
However, because the center of the bilayer region is less dense, a  
lot of water molecules are created inside the bilayer.
- How does one usually edit pdb files in gromacs, in terms of, for  
example, removing water molecules from the center of a bilayer ?

Thank you
-Maria




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