Re: [gmx-users] Regarding RMSD analysis result

2012-09-25 Thread naga sundar
Dear justin

http://rmsdnagasundaram.blogspot.in/. This is the link to
my rmsd graph. Plz check it once and suggest me.


Thanks


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:10 PM, ahmet yıldırım ahmedo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Tsjerk,

 You said RMSD's above 1 nm are suspect, towards 2 highly likely not
 correct. What is the physical/biological/chemical meaning of what you say?

 Greetings

 2012/9/24 Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com

  Hi,
 
  RMSD's above 1 nm are suspect, towards 2 highly likely not correct.
  You have to make sure that the molecule is made whole before doing
  RMSD analysis.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Tsjerk
 
  On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:02 PM, lloyd riggs lloyd.ri...@gmx.ch wrote:
   You can also just quickly visualize it in VMD and see if anything your
  looking at is not centred properly.  If it isnt you just have to centre
 it.
  
   Stephan
  
    Original-Nachricht 
   Datum: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:32:33 -0700
   Von: naga sundar naga25sun...@gmail.com
   An: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
   Betreff: Re: [gmx-users] Regarding RMSD analysis result
  
   Dear justin
  
  Thanks for ur suggestions
  
While speaking about periodic conditions, I
  followed
   the similar condition for both native and mutant complexes. For native
   complexes not any big deviation was observed. So its confirmed that
   nothing
   wrong with periodic conditions. Since all the three mutations were
  having
   high clinical significance, we assuming mutation is the only reason
 for
   this abnormal RMSD behavior.  Sudden big increase in the RMSD was
  observed
   in previous mutational  MD studies.
   http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006291X08020792.
  
   Overall, all  the factors are supporting our results. So shall we take
   this
   RMSD analysis as good result . Even after repeating the 20 ns MD
   simulation
   two times i got the same results.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:
  
   
   
On 9/24/12 6:24 AM, naga sundar wrote:
   
Dear gromacs users
   
 We performed MD simulation analysis for native and
  mutant
models of protein-protein complexes. From 20 ns simulation
  trajectory,
   we
generated RMSD graph for one native and three mutant complexes. For
   native
complex in the entire simulation period, we observed  a constant
 RMSD
(~0.15 to ~ 0.25 nm). But, three mutant complexes
showed drastic fluctuation in theRMSD  (~0.15 to ~1.75) plot. We
   analysed
all the 3D structure's in the fluctuated areas observed destruction
  of
protein complexes.
All the three mutants were already experimentally analyzed and
  reported
that they are involved in the destruction of protein-protein
   interactions.
   
Query 1: What may be the reason for sudden rise and fall of the
 RMSD
values
in mutant complexes. We are assume its because of the involvement
 of
mutation.
Query 2: Is there may any other reasons for drastic fluctuation in
  the
RMSD
Query 3: Observed results are rite.
   
Here  iam attaching the RMSD graph for your observation.
   
   
   
Attachments to the list do not work.  You will have to post a link
 to
  a
file sharing site if you wish to share an image.
   
Such jumps in RMSD are very suspect.  Since you are dealing with
protein-protein complexes, accounting for periodicity can be very
challenging.  Have you properly fit the trajectory such that your
   protein
subunits are not jumping across periodic boundaries?  If they are,
  then
your results are nothing more than an artifact.  If they are not,
 then
   you
have something more interesting, but a tenfold increase in RMSD is
  very
peculiar.
   
-Justin
   
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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding RMSD analysis result

2012-09-25 Thread Felipe Pineda, PhD
It looks for me like the known pbc effect others already pointed to. If 
you have just a protein-ligand complex (+ water and counterions of 
course) it's relatively easy to manually (a piece of code would do it) 
bring the ligand to the correct position in the frames showing an 
abnormally high value by subtracting half the x/y dimension of the box 
from its coordinates and re-calculate the rmsd , but I think trjconv 
would do it as well.


Felipe

On 09/25/2012 09:22 AM, naga sundar wrote:

Dear justin

 http://rmsdnagasundaram.blogspot.in/. This is the link to
my rmsd graph. Plz check it once and suggest me.


Thanks



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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding RMSD analysis result

2012-09-25 Thread naga sundar
Dear Felipe

Thanks for ur reply.

 The system is a protein-protein complex. Like u r saying its due
to pbc problem then why any abnormality  doesn't happened to the native
complex (Black line)?.  As already suggest by justin i checked  the pbc
conditions upto my knowledge everything is fine. of-course this is not the
first MD run for these native and mutant complexes. I run twice and got the
same results.

I want know this kind of RMSD is rite r wrong?..


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Felipe Pineda, PhD 
luis.pinedadecas...@lnu.se wrote:

 It looks for me like the known pbc effect others already pointed to. If
 you have just a protein-ligand complex (+ water and counterions of course)
 it's relatively easy to manually (a piece of code would do it) bring the
 ligand to the correct position in the frames showing an abnormally high
 value by subtracting half the x/y dimension of the box from its coordinates
 and re-calculate the rmsd , but I think trjconv would do it as well.

 Felipe


 On 09/25/2012 09:22 AM, naga sundar wrote:

 Dear justin

  
 http://rmsdnagasundaram.**blogspot.in/http://rmsdnagasundaram.blogspot.in/.
 This is the link to
 my rmsd graph. Plz check it once and suggest me.


 Thanks


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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding RMSD analysis result

2012-09-25 Thread Felipe Pineda, PhD

On 09/25/2012 10:08 AM, naga sundar wrote:

Dear Felipe

 Thanks for ur reply.

  The system is a protein-protein complex. Like u r saying its due
to pbc problem then why any abnormality  doesn't happened to the native
complex (Black line)?.

Maybe because MD is stochastic ...


  As already suggest by justin i checked  the pbc
conditions upto my knowledge everything is fine.
As Justin said, it's not about the pbc conditions as they appear in the 
mdp file, but about pbc effects due to a chain, probably the ligand, 
leaving the box and being reflected to the opposite side. Have you 
checked out visually how the weird frames look like?


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Re: [gmx-users] adding mix solvent

2012-09-25 Thread Masumeh Asman
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Nur Syafiqah Abdul Ghani 
pqah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 I already produce my co-solvent topology file also with gro file.
 Next step is i need to put the co-solvent first before i enter the
 water molecule inside my box and mix them with the protein.
 But right now i had a problem during put the co-solvent part.

 I used this command : genbox -cp protein_box.gro -ci solv.gro -p
 control.top -o protein_solv.gro

 but then there was no any molecule of my co-solvent inside the box
 with the protein.
 Then i know i must have the itp file to include in the control topology.
 But what i can do with the topology of the co-solvent?What is the
 relationship between co-solvent.gro and
 co-solvent.top which i  might can used both of them in my GROMACS
 simulation?

 Four your infomation i used antechamber to produced my co-solvent topology.
 Any advises from the pro one?

 Thanks in advance!

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Dear user
you need to determine the number of co-solvent molecule in genbox command
with -nmol option.

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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding RMSD analysis result

2012-09-25 Thread Archana Sonawani
Hi,

Your RMSD graph is ok but is represented wrong due to pbc problem. Use
whole and nojump options of trjconv.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Felipe Pineda, PhD 
luis.pinedadecas...@lnu.se wrote:

 On 09/25/2012 10:08 AM, naga sundar wrote:

 Dear Felipe

  Thanks for ur reply.

   The system is a protein-protein complex. Like u r saying its due
 to pbc problem then why any abnormality  doesn't happened to the native
 complex (Black line)?.

 Maybe because MD is stochastic ...


As already suggest by justin i checked  the pbc
 conditions upto my knowledge everything is fine.

 As Justin said, it's not about the pbc conditions as they appear in the
 mdp file, but about pbc effects due to a chain, probably the ligand,
 leaving the box and being reflected to the opposite side. Have you checked
 out visually how the weird frames look like?


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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding RMSD analysis result

2012-09-25 Thread ahmet yıldırım
Hi,

trjconv -s top.tpr -f traj.xtc -o traj-nojump.xtc -pbc nojump

I hope it helps

2012/9/25 Archana Sonawani ask.arch...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 Your RMSD graph is ok but is represented wrong due to pbc problem. Use
 whole and nojump options of trjconv.

 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Felipe Pineda, PhD 
 luis.pinedadecas...@lnu.se wrote:

  On 09/25/2012 10:08 AM, naga sundar wrote:
 
  Dear Felipe
 
   Thanks for ur reply.
 
The system is a protein-protein complex. Like u r saying its
 due
  to pbc problem then why any abnormality  doesn't happened to the native
  complex (Black line)?.
 
  Maybe because MD is stochastic ...
 
 
 As already suggest by justin i checked  the pbc
  conditions upto my knowledge everything is fine.
 
  As Justin said, it's not about the pbc conditions as they appear in the
  mdp file, but about pbc effects due to a chain, probably the ligand,
  leaving the box and being reflected to the opposite side. Have you
 checked
  out visually how the weird frames look like?
 
 
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[gmx-users] elastic network model - atoms movement

2012-09-25 Thread mohan maruthi sena
Hi all,
I  want  to build elastic network model  using gromacs. I  consider
only c-alpha atoms  and only bond stretching term contributes to towards
potential energy.  Bonds are connected between atoms present with in
certain cut-off distance(modified topology accordingly). When  I run md the
atoms are not present at the equillibrium distance but moving very far
distances , in different directions. I do not want to use constraints. How
can i avoid this?

2) Has anyone built elastic network model in gromacs?

Please suggest me a way,

Thank you  in advance,
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[gmx-users] Reference for CHARMM36 Force Field Conversion

2012-09-25 Thread Thomas Piggot

Hi everyone,

This message is just to let people know that there is finally a 
reference that we ask you to cite if you publish work using the CHARMM36 
lipid force field contribution available from the GROMACS website. The 
reference is provided in a new version of the forcefield.doc file, and 
is also given below:


Thomas J. Piggot, Ángel Piñeiro and Syma Khalid
Molecular Dynamics Simulations of Phosphatidylcholine Membranes: A 
Comparative Force Field Study

Journal of Chemical Theory and Computation
DOI: 10.1021/ct3003157
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct3003157

A validation of the conversion for DPPC and POPC membrane systems (in 
terms of single point energies calculated in both GROMACS and NAMD) is 
provided in the supporting information of this work.


Cheers

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[gmx-users] Error in domain decomposition

2012-09-25 Thread Dipankar Roy
Hi,

I am a newbie in Gromacs and is trying to simulate a small organic
molecule in water. I got the following error message during a position
restrained md run. I tried changing number of nodes but without success.


Any help on this is appreciated. 

 

 

Initializing Domain Decomposition on 16 nodes

Dynamic load balancing: auto

Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition

Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:

two-body bonded interactions: 0.400 nm, LJ-14, atoms 10 14

  multi-body bonded interactions: 0.400 nm, Ryckaert-Bell., atoms 10 14

Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.440 nm

Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans: 0.761
nm

Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.761 nm

This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with
-rcon

Guess for relative PME load: 0.21

Will use 12 particle-particle and 4 PME only nodes

This is a guess, check the performance at the end of the log file

Using 4 separate PME nodes

Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25

Optimizing the DD grid for 12 cells with a minimum initial size of 0.951
nm

The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 2 Y 2 Z 2

 

---

Program mdrun_mpi_d, VERSION 4.5.5

Source code file: domdec.c, line: 6436

 

Fatal error:

There is no domain decomposition for 12 nodes that is compatible with
the given box and a minimum cell size of 0.95125 nm

Change the number of nodes or mdrun option -rcon or -dds or your LINCS
settings

Look in the log file for details on the domain decomposition

For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
GROMACS

website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors

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-best,

Dipankar Roy

 

 

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Re: [gmx-users] Error in domain decomposition

2012-09-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/25/12 12:20 PM, Dipankar Roy wrote:

Hi,

I am a newbie in Gromacs and is trying to simulate a small organic
molecule in water. I got the following error message during a position
restrained md run. I tried changing number of nodes but without success.


Any help on this is appreciated.





Initializing Domain Decomposition on 16 nodes

Dynamic load balancing: auto

Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition

Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:

 two-body bonded interactions: 0.400 nm, LJ-14, atoms 10 14

   multi-body bonded interactions: 0.400 nm, Ryckaert-Bell., atoms 10 14

Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.440 nm

Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans: 0.761
nm

Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.761 nm

This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with
-rcon

Guess for relative PME load: 0.21

Will use 12 particle-particle and 4 PME only nodes

This is a guess, check the performance at the end of the log file

Using 4 separate PME nodes

Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25

Optimizing the DD grid for 12 cells with a minimum initial size of 0.951
nm

The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 2 Y 2 Z 2



---

Program mdrun_mpi_d, VERSION 4.5.5

Source code file: domdec.c, line: 6436



Fatal error:

There is no domain decomposition for 12 nodes that is compatible with
the given box and a minimum cell size of 0.95125 nm

Change the number of nodes or mdrun option -rcon or -dds or your LINCS
settings

Look in the log file for details on the domain decomposition

For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
GROMACS

website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors

---



Did you follow the link and read the following information?

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#There_is_no_domain_decomposition_for_n_nodes_that_is_compatible_with_the_given_box_and_a_minimum_cell_size_of_x_nm 



Depending on the size of your system it may not be practical (or even possible) 
to decompose it into more than one or two cells.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] i can not simulate box of water,

2012-09-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/25/12 11:15 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear All users

I made ​​a box of water molecules(w.pdb to w.gro by pdb2gmx then i
used genbox for made a box), but the grompp did not identify
molecules(water mode SPC),

error:

atom 5721 in wbox.top does not match with in wbox.gro
atom 5722 in ...,
.
.
.



These do not look like the actual error messages.  Please copy and paste from 
the terminal rather than retyping and paraphrasing.  Likely the atoms are out of 
order with respect to the topology and you're getting name mismatches, but this 
should not be the case if pdb2gmx produced the coordinate file.


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[gmx-users] error with x2top.

2012-09-25 Thread Elie M

Dear all,
i am trying to convert a .gro file into a top file using .x2top but not all 
atoms can be assigned forcefields and the code stops with the error:
Generating bonds from distances...atom 94Can not find forcefield for atom C-2 
with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom S-3 with 0 bondsCan not find 
forcefield for atom C-4 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-7 with 3 
bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-10 with 3 bondsCan not find forcefield 
for atom S-12 with 0 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-13 with 2 bondsCan 
not find forcefield for atom C-16 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom 
O-17 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom O-18 
withFatal error:Could only find a forcefield type for 73 out of 
94 atoms
I looked at the .atp and n2t files. I am not sure where to start. is the second 
column partial charges? how to determine these? are they automatically 
determined ..what about the numbers at the end after each atom symbol?  Is 
there any clear examples of how to do this? Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks

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Re: [gmx-users] error with x2top.

2012-09-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/25/12 4:28 PM, Elie M wrote:


Dear all,
i am trying to convert a .gro file into a top file using .x2top but not all 
atoms can be assigned forcefields and the code stops with the error:
Generating bonds from distances...atom 94Can not find forcefield for atom C-2 
with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom S-3 with 0 bondsCan not find 
forcefield for atom C-4 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-7 with 3 
bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-10 with 3 bondsCan not find forcefield 
for atom S-12 with 0 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-13 with 2 bondsCan 
not find forcefield for atom C-16 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom 
O-17 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom O-18 
withFatal error:Could only find a forcefield type for 73 out of 
94 atoms
I looked at the .atp and n2t files. I am not sure where to start. is the second 
column partial charges? how to determine these? are they automatically 
determined ..what about the numbers at the end after each atom symbol?  Is 
there any clear examples of how to do this? Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks



The format is explained in full here:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/.n2t_File

The charges and atom types are determined by parameterizing the molecule of 
interest, but if you're going to do that much work, it's probably simpler to 
create an .rtp entry and have pdb2gmx do the work.  g_x2top is usually intended 
to create simple topologies for simple molecules.


-Justin

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RE: [gmx-users] error with x2top.

2012-09-25 Thread Elie M

Thanks for your reply. I guess either way (x2top or pdb2gmx), I have problems.  
pdb2gmx is giving the same old error residue 'UNK' is not found in topology 
residue file whereas strangely enough x2top did not complain and was able to 
assign topologies for 73 atoms out of 94 so maybe it is easier to use x2top 
because in the other case I have to change files and I have no experience in 
this whatsoever and I am really tight on time. What do you personally think?

Regards

 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:32:33 -0400
 From: jalem...@vt.edu
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] error with x2top.
 
 
 
 On 9/25/12 4:28 PM, Elie M wrote:
 
  Dear all,
  i am trying to convert a .gro file into a top file using .x2top but not all 
  atoms can be assigned forcefields and the code stops with the error:
  Generating bonds from distances...atom 94Can not find forcefield for atom 
  C-2 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom S-3 with 0 bondsCan not 
  find forcefield for atom C-4 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom 
  C-7 with 3 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-10 with 3 bondsCan not 
  find forcefield for atom S-12 with 0 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom 
  C-13 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom C-16 with 2 bondsCan not 
  find forcefield for atom O-17 with 2 bondsCan not find forcefield for atom 
  O-18 withFatal error:Could only find a forcefield type for 
  73 out of 94 atoms
  I looked at the .atp and n2t files. I am not sure where to start. is the 
  second column partial charges? how to determine these? are they 
  automatically determined ..what about the numbers at the end after each 
  atom symbol?  Is there any clear examples of how to do this? Any help would 
  be appreciated. Thanks
 
 
 The format is explained in full here:
 
 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/.n2t_File
 
 The charges and atom types are determined by parameterizing the molecule of 
 interest, but if you're going to do that much work, it's probably simpler to 
 create an .rtp entry and have pdb2gmx do the work.  g_x2top is usually 
 intended 
 to create simple topologies for simple molecules.
 
 -Justin
 
 -- 
 
 
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 Research Scientist
 Department of Biochemistry
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Re: [gmx-users] error with x2top.

2012-09-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/25/12 5:02 PM, Elie M wrote:


Thanks for your reply. I guess either way (x2top or pdb2gmx), I have problems.  
pdb2gmx is giving the same old error residue 'UNK' is not found in topology 
residue file whereas strangely enough x2top did not complain and was able to 
assign topologies for 73 atoms out of 94 so maybe it is easier to use x2top 
because in the other case I have to change files and I have no experience in 
this whatsoever and I am really tight on time. What do you personally think?



Neither tool is guaranteed to produce a topology for an arbitrary molecule.  If 
g_x2top does not have the right parameters, it will fail.  If pdb2gmx does not 
have the right parameters, it will fail.  g_x2top further assumes that some 
generic set of atom types and functional groups will address whatever it is that 
you're working with.  Sometimes that's appropriate, sometimes it's not.  Either 
way, you're going to have to modify either the .n2t file or the .rtp file for 
your chosen force field.  Regardless of the route you choose, you're going to 
have to come up with parameters for your molecule and learn how these files work 
so you can modify them.  Parameterization is an expert topic for a reason.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Restrain specific lipid residues

2012-09-25 Thread Katrina Lexa
Hi everyone,

This is probably a very silly question, but if I want to restrain only certain 
lipid residues in my bilayer, based on their residue number, is there some 
other way to do this aside from just having an explicit residue-by-residue list 
of them  their topologies in my .top? I'm just using Tieleman's lipid 
parameters, so I cannot define the lipid residues to restrain following the 
popc.itp file, since it describes just the general topology for any POPC 
residue  tells me that my index is out of range, since the .top is in atom 
numbers  I'm trying to think in residue numbers. Does that sort of make sense? 
Out of my 165 residues, I want to strongly restrain only 33 of them, and then 
let the rest minimize (I'm trying to add onto an equilibrated box - at this 
point, it would have just been easier to start over from scratch, but I thought 
I would ask).

Also, thank you to Justin and Mark for your help with  hydrogen building in 
pdb2gmx - you were right, obviously, I was just not noticing the wrong atom 
type in my .h2b file (way back Aug 30th). 

Thank you for your help,

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RE: [gmx-users] error with x2top.

2012-09-25 Thread Elie M

Yep You are right. I will try my best to change the files accordingly.
Thanks 

 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:05:20 -0400
 From: jalem...@vt.edu
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] error with x2top.
 
 
 
 On 9/25/12 5:02 PM, Elie M wrote:
 
  Thanks for your reply. I guess either way (x2top or pdb2gmx), I have 
  problems.  pdb2gmx is giving the same old error residue 'UNK' is not found 
  in topology residue file whereas strangely enough x2top did not complain 
  and was able to assign topologies for 73 atoms out of 94 so maybe it is 
  easier to use x2top because in the other case I have to change files and I 
  have no experience in this whatsoever and I am really tight on time. What 
  do you personally think?
 
 
 Neither tool is guaranteed to produce a topology for an arbitrary molecule.  
 If 
 g_x2top does not have the right parameters, it will fail.  If pdb2gmx does 
 not 
 have the right parameters, it will fail.  g_x2top further assumes that some 
 generic set of atom types and functional groups will address whatever it is 
 that 
 you're working with.  Sometimes that's appropriate, sometimes it's not.  
 Either 
 way, you're going to have to modify either the .n2t file or the .rtp file for 
 your chosen force field.  Regardless of the route you choose, you're going to 
 have to come up with parameters for your molecule and learn how these files 
 work 
 so you can modify them.  Parameterization is an expert topic for a reason.
 
 -Justin
 
 -- 
 
 
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 Research Scientist
 Department of Biochemistry
 Virginia Tech
 Blacksburg, VA
 jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Restrain specific lipid residues

2012-09-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/25/12 5:14 PM, Katrina Lexa wrote:

Hi everyone,

This is probably a very silly question, but if I want to restrain only certain lipid 
residues in my bilayer, based on their residue number, is there some other way to do this 
aside from just having an explicit residue-by-residue list of them  their topologies 
in my .top? I'm just using Tieleman's lipid parameters, so I cannot define the lipid 
residues to restrain following the popc.itp file, since it describes just the general 
topology for any POPC residue  tells me that my index is out of range, since the .top 
is in atom numbers  I'm trying to think in residue numbers. Does that sort of make 
sense? Out of my 165 residues, I want to strongly restrain only 33 of them, and then let 
the rest minimize (I'm trying to add onto an equilibrated box - at this point, it would 
have just been easier to start over from scratch, but I thought I would ask).



Restraints can only be applied per [molecultype], so no, there is no way to have 
a global lipid topology and individual restraint files for individual molecules. 
 It is possible to reduce the complexity a bit by defining the 33 restrained 
lipids as one [moleculetype], though they would have to be consecutive in your 
coordinate file as well, which may require manual reorganization.



Also, thank you to Justin and Mark for your help with  hydrogen building in 
pdb2gmx - you were right, obviously, I was just not noticing the wrong atom 
type in my .h2b file (way back Aug 30th).



Glad to hear there's at least one problem solved :)

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Installation in a SGI Cluster

2012-09-25 Thread Peter C. Lai
Check to see if the MPICC and MPI_HOME environment variables are set 
correctly to configure (it can't find mpicc).

On 2012-09-25 12:06:14PM -0300, Diego Nolasco wrote:
 Hello GROMACS users,
 
 I am facing some problems to configure the gromacs installation in a x86_64
 GNU/Linux SGI Cluster XE with Suse.
 I am using ./configure --enable-mpi --without-x --disable-float and the
 error comes as below:
 
 checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
 checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
 checking whether build environment is sane... yes
 checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
 checking for gawk... gawk
 checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
 checking how to create a ustar tar archive... gnutar
 checking for cc... cc
 checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
 checking whether the C compiler works... yes
 checking whether we are cross compiling... no
 checking for suffix of executables...
 checking for suffix of object files... o
 checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
 checking whether cc accepts -g... yes
 checking for cc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
 checking for style of include used by make... GNU
 checking dependency style of cc... gcc3
 checking dependency style of cc... gcc3
 checking for mpxlc... no
 checking for mpicc... no
 checking for mpcc... no
 checking for hcc... no
 checking whether the MPI cc command works... configure: error: Cannot
 compile and link MPI code with cc
 
 I would really appreciate if someone assist me in this regard.
 Thank's in advance,
 
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[gmx-users] a quick question (forgot to ask).

2012-09-25 Thread Elie M

Sorry one more thing: For one of the atoms S that x2top did not assign the 
topology it said 0 bonds although S is a part of the Thiophene molecule  which 
is connected to two carbons..what does it mean 0 bonds?

Thanks 

 From: elie.mouj...@hotmail.co.uk
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: RE: [gmx-users] error with x2top.
 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:17:21 +0100
 
 
 Yep You are right. I will try my best to change the files accordingly.
 Thanks 
 
  Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:05:20 -0400
  From: jalem...@vt.edu
  To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] error with x2top.
  
  
  
  On 9/25/12 5:02 PM, Elie M wrote:
  
   Thanks for your reply. I guess either way (x2top or pdb2gmx), I have 
   problems.  pdb2gmx is giving the same old error residue 'UNK' is not 
   found in topology residue file whereas strangely enough x2top did not 
   complain and was able to assign topologies for 73 atoms out of 94 so 
   maybe it is easier to use x2top because in the other case I have to 
   change files and I have no experience in this whatsoever and I am really 
   tight on time. What do you personally think?
  
  
  Neither tool is guaranteed to produce a topology for an arbitrary molecule. 
   If 
  g_x2top does not have the right parameters, it will fail.  If pdb2gmx does 
  not 
  have the right parameters, it will fail.  g_x2top further assumes that some 
  generic set of atom types and functional groups will address whatever it is 
  that 
  you're working with.  Sometimes that's appropriate, sometimes it's not.  
  Either 
  way, you're going to have to modify either the .n2t file or the .rtp file 
  for 
  your chosen force field.  Regardless of the route you choose, you're going 
  to 
  have to come up with parameters for your molecule and learn how these files 
  work 
  so you can modify them.  Parameterization is an expert topic for a reason.
  
  -Justin
  
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Re: [gmx-users] a quick question (forgot to ask).

2012-09-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/25/12 5:20 PM, Elie M wrote:


Sorry one more thing: For one of the atoms S that x2top did not assign the topology it 
said 0 bonds although S is a part of the Thiophene molecule  which is connected to two 
carbons..what does it mean 0 bonds?



It means there is no entry in the .n2t file that matches this atom.

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Re: [gmx-users] Restrain specific lipid residues

2012-09-25 Thread Katrina Lexa
That's a simple enough way to deal with it - thanks!

On Sep 25, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:

 
 
 On 9/25/12 5:14 PM, Katrina Lexa wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 This is probably a very silly question, but if I want to restrain only 
 certain lipid residues in my bilayer, based on their residue number, is 
 there some other way to do this aside from just having an explicit 
 residue-by-residue list of them  their topologies in my .top? I'm just 
 using Tieleman's lipid parameters, so I cannot define the lipid residues to 
 restrain following the popc.itp file, since it describes just the general 
 topology for any POPC residue  tells me that my index is out of range, 
 since the .top is in atom numbers  I'm trying to think in residue numbers. 
 Does that sort of make sense? Out of my 165 residues, I want to strongly 
 restrain only 33 of them, and then let the rest minimize (I'm trying to add 
 onto an equilibrated box - at this point, it would have just been easier to 
 start over from scratch, but I thought I would ask).
 
 
 Restraints can only be applied per [molecultype], so no, there is no way to 
 have a global lipid topology and individual restraint files for individual 
 molecules.  It is possible to reduce the complexity a bit by defining the 33 
 restrained lipids as one [moleculetype], though they would have to be 
 consecutive in your coordinate file as well, which may require manual 
 reorganization.
 
 Also, thank you to Justin and Mark for your help with  hydrogen building in 
 pdb2gmx - you were right, obviously, I was just not noticing the wrong atom 
 type in my .h2b file (way back Aug 30th).
 
 
 Glad to hear there's at least one problem solved :)
 
 -Justin
 
 -- 
 
 
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 Research Scientist
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[gmx-users] Deuterium and the meaning of the atomic number parameter

2012-09-25 Thread Andrew DeYoung
Hi,

In my system, I have several hydroxyl groups.  I would like to change the
hydroxyl hydrogens to deuterium (as an approximation, I will just double the
typical hydrogen mass).  I am only doing this as a test of the dependance on
mass of my system, so while I am sure force fields involving deuterium exist
in the literature, I will not be using them. 

My question is, if I am simply doubling the mass of my hydroxyl hydrogens,
what atomic number should I use in my ffnonbonded.itp file?  1 or 2?  

(Since the mass of each atom is always specified in the topology, it is not
clear to me what the atomic number parameter does in Gromacs.)

Section 5.3.2 of the manual shows how the atomic number (at.num in the [
atomtypes ] directive) is specified in ffnonbonded.itp, but it is not clear
to me what the atomic number actually does in Gromacs.

From general chemistry, I know that the atomic number is simply the number
of protons in the nucleus.  Deuterium's nucleus consists of one proton and
one neutron, so the atomic number of deuterium should be 1.  

Am I correct in setting the atomic number of deuterium as 1?  Then my
ffnonbonded.itp file will look like:

[ atomtypes ]
;name   at.num   masscharge ptype   sigma  epsilon
 HO  1   2.01580 0.418  A   ; sigma, epsilon

Thank you for your time!

Andrew DeYoung
Carnegie Mellon University

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Re: [gmx-users] Deuterium and the meaning of the atomic number parameter

2012-09-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/25/12 5:42 PM, Andrew DeYoung wrote:

Hi,

In my system, I have several hydroxyl groups.  I would like to change the
hydroxyl hydrogens to deuterium (as an approximation, I will just double the
typical hydrogen mass).  I am only doing this as a test of the dependance on
mass of my system, so while I am sure force fields involving deuterium exist
in the literature, I will not be using them.

My question is, if I am simply doubling the mass of my hydroxyl hydrogens,
what atomic number should I use in my ffnonbonded.itp file?  1 or 2?



It would be 1.


(Since the mass of each atom is always specified in the topology, it is not
clear to me what the atomic number parameter does in Gromacs.)

Section 5.3.2 of the manual shows how the atomic number (at.num in the [
atomtypes ] directive) is specified in ffnonbonded.itp, but it is not clear
to me what the atomic number actually does in Gromacs.



It does nothing.


From general chemistry, I know that the atomic number is simply the number

of protons in the nucleus.  Deuterium's nucleus consists of one proton and
one neutron, so the atomic number of deuterium should be 1.

Am I correct in setting the atomic number of deuterium as 1?  Then my
ffnonbonded.itp file will look like:

[ atomtypes ]
;name   at.num   masscharge ptype   sigma  epsilon
  HO  1   2.01580 0.418  A   ; sigma, epsilon



Correct (given the caveats you list above), so at the very least, syntactically 
correct.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Turning off charges of a particular atom type

2012-09-25 Thread Andrew DeYoung
Hi,

If you have time, I have one more question.  Suppose that I have some atom
type named XX.  Normally XX has a partial charge, but for a test simulation,
I would like to turn off the charges of all of the XX atoms.  This way, I
will hopefully be able to disentangle the relative effects of Coulomb
interactions (i.e., charges) and van der Waals/Lennard-Jones interactions in
my system.

Is it true that to turn off the charges of the XX atoms, I can simply set
the charge parameter in my nonbonded topology (e.g., ffnonbonded.itp) to 0?
Or is there a better way to do this?

Thanks again so much for your time.

Andrew DeYoung
Carnegie Mellon University

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Re: [gmx-users] Turning off charges of a particular atom type

2012-09-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/25/12 5:54 PM, Andrew DeYoung wrote:

Hi,

If you have time, I have one more question.  Suppose that I have some atom
type named XX.  Normally XX has a partial charge, but for a test simulation,
I would like to turn off the charges of all of the XX atoms.  This way, I
will hopefully be able to disentangle the relative effects of Coulomb
interactions (i.e., charges) and van der Waals/Lennard-Jones interactions in
my system.

Is it true that to turn off the charges of the XX atoms, I can simply set
the charge parameter in my nonbonded topology (e.g., ffnonbonded.itp) to 0?
Or is there a better way to do this?



Charges in ffnonbonded.itp are not used.  You would have to zero out the charges 
in the topology (.top or .itp).


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Re: Turning off charges of a particular atom type

2012-09-25 Thread Andrew DeYoung
Justin,

Thank you for the reminder!  I can't believe I forgot that important fact
about ffnonbonded.itp, but I did. 

Andrew DeYoung
Carnegie Mellon University

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