Re: Real Men use XML, was quote, was Google Earth...
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 19:21, Ben Scott uttered thusly: ... We're fortunate we got XML, and not something truely awful like DER or OLE Container Documents or something. OLE Container docs? Thanks for reviving those nightmares. I vividly recall having to deal with *memory leak* issues in those document formats -- yes, you got it right! Frequent updates to the document would cause *the document* to grow enormously in size until you performed a specific purge operation, the details of which I am glad to say I've forgotten. Yes, XML is *way* better... Quite frankly, there were many annoying problems with OLE. Trying to do anything *useful* with OLE beyond simple linking to Excel spreadsheets got you into deep waters, fast. Hideously complicated, underspecified, and chocked full of bugs galore. -Fred ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Real Men use Lojban (fnord)
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: POINTLESS For those curious ... Short list. /POINTLESS With the length of the list of those interested becoming inversely proportional to the length of this thread! -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else
On 11/15/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then you did it wrong in the first place. Now, the benny of XML is you would utilize namespaces to provide versioning ... Indeed. Or even without that: foo colorblue/color height1.3m/height weight22kg/weight fav-dessertpie/fav-dessert fav-movieBrazil/fav-movie favorites dessertpie/dessert movieBrazil/movie /favorites /foo Duplication of data, yes, but presumably the v3 implementation knows to ignore the legacy fav-* stuff when favorites is present, and earlier implementations are already ignoring the unknown favorites section. It's a common observation that while data structures tend to be a lot harder to change than code, many people start working on code and come up with data structures as they go along. Typical human short-sightedness. Data dominates. If you've chosen the right data structures and organized things well, the algorithms will almost always be self-evident. Data structures, not algorithms, are central to programming -- Rob Pike The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. -- W. Somerset Maugham -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
[GNHLUG] MerriLUG Nashua, Thur 16 November, VMware: Instant access to an alien OS!
Who : Shawn K. O'Shea What : VMware tips: features, advantages, installation, quirks, demo. Where: Martha's Exchange Day : Thur 16 November **Tomorrow** Time : 6:00 PM for grub, 7:30 PM for discussion :: Overview Want to switch between Windows (or BSD or flavors of Linux) without that tedious reboot delay? It can be done by creating one or more software virtual machines on the same physical machine! Shawn O'Shea will share his considerable experience installing, configuring, and maintaining VMware, a commercial product. The talk will span general getting-started tips to subtle, obscure details - including a good try at answering your specific questions. RSVP to Heather Brodeur [EMAIL PROTECTED] for dinner to assure adequate seating. !!! I don't have the list of regular attendees, so I'd appreciate affirmative RSVPs from everyone this month. Sorry for the inconvenience :-( !!! Driving directions: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/PlaceMarthasExchange -- Heather Brodeur Office Manager Red Hat, Westford +1-978-392-3198 (phone) +1-978-392-1001 (fax) ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list gnhlug-announce@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: resetting saved lines in an Xterm?
Ctl+middleButton in Xterm gives a menu with the pick that you want. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: resetting saved lines in an Xterm?
Ctl+middleButton in Xterm gives a menu with the pick that you want. Doh! I didn't read carefully enough to see that you'd already ruled that out - sorry. I don't know of any scripty approach to this - let us know if you find one... ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Fios. Was: Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?
I just recently switched from Adelphia Power Link (now Comcast) to FIOS and in short, I like it. I haven't had it long enough to know how reliable it is, but, the IP has changed once in the less that 1/2 month it's been installed. The router Verizon supplies is made by Action Tech which seems to be very capable. All I've done with it so far is forward ports 22(ssh) and 81(http) to my linux box. According to the Verizon installer (who was very willing to chat about the technology and seemed to be excited about it personally) other routers can be used and there is not problem with that unless you want support. They will only support the router they provide. I was originally going to replace it with a LinkSYS running DD-WRT but have since decided to keep the action tech as it does pretty much everything I need. I use a linksys wrt54g wunning dd-wrt (small version for ver 5 router) to provide wireless in the house instead of the action tech (which has a wireless interface too). One thing I noticed about the action tech is a configuration screen for Dynamic DNS updates. This is something I'd been meaniung to do for some time so I created an account with DynDNS and the action tech router sent an update after entered the info into its config etc. Cool I thought until recently when my IP changed. I presumed the router would autonomously update DynDNS; it did not. It updated when I manually told it to send an update. Seems like an IP change should trigger an update. Anyone else notice this? Oh, BTW - The Verizon Web page thingy that tells you if FIOS is available was not accurate for my location. It told me it was not available, but, when I called to b*tch about something else the verizon person asked if I was interested in FIOS. I thought about it for .1ms and said yes. I had my doubts until one day later that week there was a fibre drop strung along side the copper drop. _Andrew Gaunt Fred wrote: On Tuesday 14 November 2006 11:25, kenta uttered thusly: I'd love to try Verzion's FiOS but they're not offering it in my part of Nashua. :( If anyone here has it, how is it? I'm also not sure how any local DSL providers are stacking up these days. Feedback is appreciated. -Kenta ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: resetting saved lines in an Xterm?
/usr/bin/reset should do what you want here. Nope - that doesn't clear the scrollback history. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: resetting saved lines in an Xterm?
Nope - that doesn't clear the scrollback history. It does on every xterm I've ever used. It may not if you are using some funky xterm replacement, or if you have TERM set incorrectly as is quite common. I'm using the xterm (and, no - not in the way that Karl Rove had access to the poll numbers) and I claim that there's nothing funky going on with my rig: fleagle:~ 1468--- xterm -version XFree86 4.3.99.5(179) fleagle:~ 1469--- type xterm xterm is hashed /usr/bin/xterm fleagle:~ 1470--- rpm -qf /usr/bin/xterm xterm-179-6.EL3 fleagle:~ 1471--- echo $TERM xterm ...and although that reset app (which is basically just the tset app) does send an escape sequence that clears the screen and puts certain things back to their initial states, it definitely doesn't clear the scrollback history, which is still viewable via Shift+PageUp or the mousewheel or the menubar slider thingy as always. FWIW, I've been using the xterm (as opposed to color xterm or rcvxt [sp?] or the Gnome thingy or the KDE thingy, etc...) and this has always been true, AFAIK. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: resetting saved lines in an Xterm?
Michael ODonnell wrote: I'm using the xterm (and, no - not in the way that Karl Rove had access to the poll numbers) and I claim that there's nothing funky going on with my rig: fleagle:~ 1468--- xterm -version XFree86 4.3.99.5(179) fleagle:~ 1469--- type xterm xterm is hashed /usr/bin/xterm fleagle:~ 1470--- rpm -qf /usr/bin/xterm xterm-179-6.EL3 fleagle:~ 1471--- echo $TERM xterm ...and although that reset app (which is basically just the tset app) does send an escape sequence that clears the screen and puts certain things back to their initial states, it definitely doesn't clear the scrollback history, which is still viewable via Shift+PageUp or the mousewheel or the menubar slider thingy as always. FWIW, I've been using the xterm (as opposed to color xterm or rcvxt [sp?] or the Gnome thingy or the KDE thingy, etc...) and this has always been true, AFAIK. http://dickey.his.com/xterm/xterm.log.html#xterm_107 Does this help? -Mark ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Fios. Was: Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?
On 11/15/06, Andrew W. Gaunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I noticed about the action tech is a configuration screen forDynamic DNS updates.This is something I'dbeen meaniung to do for some time so I created anaccount with DynDNS andthe action tech router sent an update after entered the info into its config etc. Cool I thought untilrecently when my IP changed. I presumed the router would autonomouslyupdate DynDNS; it did not.It updated when I manually told it to send an update. Seems like an IPchange should trigger an update. Anyone else notice this? This happens often with clients that talk to DynDNS. SO many are broken it isn't even funny, and for automated 'this is my IP' informative messages, depending on the client, they'll actually block and ignore the informative message simply becouse the clients spam MUCH faster then they should. A manual update will often work, as it's a different message. Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: resetting saved lines in an Xterm?
mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:33:38PM -0500, Michael ODonnell wrote: /usr/bin/reset should do what you want here. Nope - that doesn't clear the scrollback history. It does on every xterm I've ever used. It may not if you are using some funky xterm replacement, or if you have TERM set incorrectly as is quite common. Doh! you're right. For some reason I had ruled that out because the person who asked me claimed it wasn't sufficient. What I didn't realize was that the 'reset' he was referring to was a menu item within Gnome Term (something he also neglected to tell me :) When he said reset, I thought he was talking about the command line utility. Thanks Mike! -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: resetting saved lines in an Xterm?
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 01:10:05PM -0500, Michael ODonnell wrote: /usr/bin/reset should do what you want here. Nope - that doesn't clear the scrollback history. It does on every xterm I've ever used. It may not if you are using some funky xterm replacement, or if you have TERM set incorrectly as is quite common. I'm using the xterm (and, no - not in the way that Karl Rove had access to the poll numbers) and I claim that there's nothing funky going on with my rig: fleagle:~ 1468--- xterm -version XFree86 4.3.99.5(179) fleagle:~ 1469--- type xterm xterm is hashed /usr/bin/xterm fleagle:~ 1470--- rpm -qf /usr/bin/xterm xterm-179-6.EL3 fleagle:~ 1471--- echo $TERM xterm Looks good to me, reasonably close to what I see on my systems here. One has the same version of xterm, and works fine. That system has: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mwl]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/reset ncurses-5.3-9.4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mwl]$ rpm -qf /etc/termcap termcap-11.0.1-17.1 ...and although that reset app (which is basically just the tset app) does send an escape sequence that clears the screen and puts certain things back to their initial states, it definitely doesn't clear the scrollback history, which is still viewable via Shift+PageUp or the mousewheel or the menubar slider thingy as always. On my systems 'clear' does what you describe, 'reset' does what I describe. The scrollback history is definitely gone. I am unable to reproduce the behaviour you describe. FWIW, I've been using the xterm (as opposed to color xterm or rcvxt [sp?] or the Gnome thingy or the KDE thingy, etc...) and this has always been true, AFAIK. Strange, I've been using xterm for longer than I can remember, on several platforms, and 'reset' has always worked as I described. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP KeyID 0x57C3430B Holder of Past Knowledge CS, O- The man who listens to reason is lost: reason enslaves all whose minds are not strong enough to master her. George Bernard Shaw ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
