[FOLLOWUP] local cost of internet transit?

2007-02-05 Thread Bill McGonigle

On Jan 30, 2007, at 15:00, Bill McGonigle wrote:

I'm trying to get a feel for what the average local cost of  
internet transit is like, for a local project (non-profit) I'm  
working on.  If you'd like to help and pay for metered service,  
please reply here with what kind of costs you're seeing in terms of  
$/MB (or your preferred unit) and associated costs.  To remain  
anonymous, reply directly to me and I'll only share cost  
structures, towns, and aggregate data, not ISP's or customers.


I promised a followup on this, but as I only had one respondent I'm  
unable to draw any conclusions about the range in the market.  From  
what I've seen personally the devil is in the details on these, so  
watch the fine print about when billable events/thresholds occur if  
you're looking at contracts.


-Bill

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SIP Provider suggestions?

2007-02-05 Thread Cole Tuininga

Hi all - 

I'm looking to finally take the plunge into Asterisk (probably using
AsteriskNow - http://www.asterisknow.org).  In any case, I was
remembering the great presentation on Asterisk at the Slug a while ago
and remembered there was a recommendation to check out Telesip
(http://www.telesip.com).

I gave them a look, but I have to say that I was completely put off by
their website.  There were broken/missing/inconsistent links all over
the place, Lorem Ipsum placeholder text, etc.  It didn't give me the
warm fuzzies to say the least.

That said, I'm wondering if anybody out there has any recommendations
for decent SIP providers?  I'm not interested in somebody like Vonage,
simply because you have to go through extra hoops (and, if I understand
correctly, pay extra money) to get your username/password so you can
plug it into Asterisk.  

Ideally, I'd like a company that is Asterisk friendly (as Telesip is
purported to be - the Slug presenter told us how he had a tech on the
line for about 6 hours getting help to configure his Asterisk setup).

Ideas?  Thoughts?  Suggestions?

Thanks!

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Re: SIP Provider suggestions?

2007-02-05 Thread Travis Roy


That said, I'm wondering if anybody out there has any recommendations
for decent SIP providers?  I'm not interested in somebody like Vonage,
simply because you have to go through extra hoops (and, if I  
understand

correctly, pay extra money) to get your username/password so you can
plug it into Asterisk.


I would go with Broadvoice. They have the BYOD (Bring Your Own  
Device) plan that's only $6/month (ends up being about $9 after taxes  
and whatnot) and you can upgrade to full service once you get all the  
bugs worked out.


Their support is fantastic and they were very helpful with helping me  
get my HT-286 working


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Re: SIP Provider suggestions?

2007-02-05 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On Mon, February 5, 2007 9:20 am, Cole Tuininga wrote:

 I'm looking to finally take the plunge into Asterisk (probably using
 AsteriskNow - http://www.asterisknow.org).  In any case, I was
 remembering the great presentation on Asterisk at the Slug a while ago and
 remembered there was a recommendation to check out Telesip
 (http://www.telesip.com).

The One True SIP (and IAX2) provider, IMNSHO, is VoicePulse.  The -only-
annoying thing about them is finding where their Asterisk portal is. 
(Here's the answer: http://connect.voicepulse.com/ -- or you can just plug
voicepulse asterisk into Google.)

They offer most everything, and definitely speak Asterisk, including
having sample, configured-for-your-authentication-information files, etc. 
And the quality's great; I've called Europe, Bermuda, etc., with nary
anything that would indicate it was a VoIP call.

I'm sure that there are other providers out there that offer comparable
service, but these guys have been good enough that I've never had to worry
about looking.

$.02, etc.,

-Ken

 I gave them a look, but I have to say that I was completely put off by
 their website.  There were broken/missing/inconsistent links all over the
 place, Lorem Ipsum placeholder text, etc.  It didn't give me the warm
 fuzzies to say the least.

 That said, I'm wondering if anybody out there has any recommendations
 for decent SIP providers?  I'm not interested in somebody like Vonage,
 simply because you have to go through extra hoops (and, if I understand
 correctly, pay extra money) to get your username/password so you can plug
 it into Asterisk.

 Ideally, I'd like a company that is Asterisk friendly (as Telesip is
 purported to be - the Slug presenter told us how he had a tech on the line
 for about 6 hours getting help to configure his Asterisk setup).

 Ideas?  Thoughts?  Suggestions?


 Thanks!


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whoops!..

2007-02-05 Thread jsf

That message was for Cole, not Travis..

:-)

J.
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Re: SIP Provider suggestions?

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas Charron

 http://www.pulver.com/products/sip/ under 'Sip Services' has a long list
of possible providers.  I can't speak for most of them, but it's something
to give you a list of the alternatives.

On 2/5/07, jsf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey Travis,

take a look at ViaTalk (http://www.viatalk.com) and, of course, FWD
(www.freeworlddialup.com)


cheers,

Joshua


On 2/5/07, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  That said, I'm wondering if anybody out there has any recommendations
  for decent SIP providers?  I'm not interested in somebody like Vonage,
  simply because you have to go through extra hoops (and, if I
  understand
  correctly, pay extra money) to get your username/password so you can
  plug it into Asterisk.

 I would go with Broadvoice. They have the BYOD (Bring Your Own
 Device) plan that's only $6/month (ends up being about $9 after taxes
 and whatnot) and you can upgrade to full service once you get all the
 bugs worked out.

 Their support is fantastic and they were very helpful with helping me
 get my HT-286 working

 --Travis
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Re: SIP Provider suggestions?

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas Charron

On 2/5/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  http://www.pulver.com/products/sip/ under 'Sip Services' has a long list
of possible providers.  I can't speak for most of them, but it's something
to give you a list of the alternatives.




 One of the providers on the list that is really nice is
http://www.ipcomms.net/html/home.html

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Re: Saving editable PDF forms?

2007-02-05 Thread Paul Lussier
Andrew W. Gaunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Why stop at spel checking? I insist on grammar checking to. ;-)

 All posts that are to be taken seriously must conform! We'll
 have no funny business here, I'm not joking around now.
 And no top posting! No using slang words or colloquial expressions.
 When speaking, please annunciate everything properly.
 Let us all do part, no matter how small or seemingly
 insignificant to maintain the Queen's English.

While I understand your point, and freely and gladly admit to using
the wrong form of the word (to vs. too), I also pointed out that it is
usually socially acceptable to have the occassional typo in an e-mail
to or among and between friends and forums such as GNLHUG.  My point
was that Greg was sending the equivalent of a business letter and he
had a blatant spelling error.

Would you hire someone who's cover letter or resume had spelling or
grammar mistakes in it?

While guilty as charged with respect to using the wrong form of the
word, it's hardly as important here as it would be in the context of
sending a business letter.  All I'm trying to do is point out that
just a few extra moments proof-reading before sending something this
important can prevent us from looking like ignorant buffoons who don't
know how to spell.

On the other hand, perhaps the number of people who don't wish to take
a few extra moments before sending a letter like this is so great that
the few of us who do won't be noticed...

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[GNHLUG] CentraLUG, Feb 5th (TONIGHT!), NHTI: Matt Brodeur GnuPG and OpenPGP, keysigning.

2007-02-05 Thread Ted Roche
The monthly meeting of CentraLUG, the Concord/Central NH GNHLUG  
chapter, happens the first Monday of most months on the New Hampshire  
Institute Campus starting at 7 PM. Next month's meeting is on  
February 5th at 7 PM.


Directions and maps are available at http://www.centralug.org and on  
the NHTI site at http://www.nhti.edu/welcome/directions.htm. This  
month, we'll be meeting at our usual location in the Library/Learning  
Center/Bookstore, room 146, marked as I on that map. The main  
meeting starts at 7 PM, and we finish by 9 PM. Open to the public.  
Free admission. Tell your friends.


At this month's meeting, Matt Brodeur will present an introduction to  
e-mail and file security using Pretty Good Privacy (PGP)[1]. The talk  
will cover basic concepts of encryption and digital signatures.  
Examples and demos will use GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG, [2]), a free  
(GPL) implementation of the OpenPGP standard available for most  
modern operating systems. Following the presentation, a PGP  
keysigning event will be held. Anyone interested in exchanging key  
signatures with other local PGP users can find details on our  
website,... as soon as we've set it up. Stay tuned.


Matt Brodeur is a Quality Assurance Engineer at Red Hat in Westford,  
MA and volunteer in local LUGs. He has previously presented OpenPGP  
talks at the Boston Linux  Unix User Group.[3]


More details on the group and directions to the meeting can be found  
at http://www.centralug.org and at http://www.gnhlug.org.


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy
[2] http://www.gnupg.org
[3] http://www.blu.org
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Re: Saving editable PDF forms?

2007-02-05 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Monday 05 February 2007 10:38 am, Paul Lussier wrote:
 My point 
 was that Greg was sending the equivalent of a business letter and he
 had a blatant spelling error.

On Sunday 04 February 2007 02:43 pm, Bill McGonigle wrote:
 Care to point out the error?  His sentence is something my high
 school english teacher would write overly complex on in red ink,
 but I can still diagram it.

 -Bill

Bill's point in rebuttal to your flame was that there was no misspelling.  Try 
running a spell check of your own?  Here's your snippet below for reference.

  Greg Rundlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  example, look at the contraindications brought to light regarding how

-N
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Re: No FOSS drivers for Dell e521 / Nvidia MCP51 High Definition Audio

2007-02-05 Thread Michael ODonnell


 http://jrblevin.freeshell.org/weblog/linux/mcp51-alsa

Well, heck - all I found when I went searching was people like me
griping about how there was no support (even from ALSA) so this is
a pleasant surprise - thanks!  I'll give that a whirl...


Turns out those people were right.  The audio on my machine
has PCI vendor:product IDs 10de:026c and the only driver that
volunteered to handle it is the hda_intel.c driver, which
(apparently) only knows how to adjust the volume and offers
no other controls.  Same story for the ALSA kit and a search
of the source codes confirms that no other driver is signed
up to handle anything with those IDs.

Oh, well - thanks, anyway - I'll keep poking at this in my
Copious Spare Time...
 
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Re: Saving editable PDF forms?

2007-02-05 Thread Paul Lussier
Andrew W. Gaunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Paul,

 Which word is alleged to be spelled incorrectly?

example, look at the contraindications brought to light regarding how

 Just a guess on my part; is it this one?


Err, Oops, yeah, that would be it.  My brain was parsing it as a
misspelling of 'contradiction'.  My humble apologies to all here, and
especially to Greg!  I will cease and desist from being the spelling
police :)

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Re: Saving editable PDF forms?

2007-02-05 Thread Shawn K. O'Shea


Bill's point in rebuttal to your flame was that there was no
misspelling.  Try
running a spell check of your own?  Here's your snippet below for
reference.

  Greg Rundlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  example, look at the contraindications brought to light regarding how



Although I entirely agree with Paul's general point (make sure
professional/business e-mail are spell-checked, grammar-checked and
proofread), I believe the crux of his example revolves around the word
contraindications. Although contraindicate is indeed a verb, I believe
the intended word here was contradictions.

Dictionary sources state that contraindicate is primarily used as a
medical term to indicate when symptoms of a disease contradict the typical
or usual treatment. I've cross referenced this definition with
Dictionary.com, Merriam Webster, American Heritage and the Oxford English
dictionary (see links below).

Can we maybe put this one to bed now?

-Shawn

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/contraindication
http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50048756?single=1query_type=wordqueryword=contraindicatefirst=1max_to_show=10
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/contraindicate
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/contraindicate
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Re: No FOSS drivers for Dell e521 / Nvidia MCP51 High Definition Audio

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas Charron

On 2/5/07, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://jrblevin.freeshell.org/weblog/linux/mcp51-alsa
Well, heck - all I found when I went searching was people like me
griping about how there was no support (even from ALSA) so this is
a pleasant surprise - thanks!  I'll give that a whirl...
Turns out those people were right.  The audio on my machine
has PCI vendor:product IDs 10de:026c and the only driver that
volunteered to handle it is the hda_intel.c driver, which
(apparently) only knows how to adjust the volume and offers
no other controls.  Same story for the ALSA kit and a search
of the source codes confirms that no other driver is signed
up to handle anything with those IDs.

Oh, well - thanks, anyway - I'll keep poking at this in my
Copious Spare Time...



 Hrm, 026c?  Must have been an upgraded device since the initial page
was written, as the other MCP51's are 026b.

 Adding:

{ 0x10de, 0x026c, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, DEVICE_NFORCE }, /* MCP51 */

 to the snd_intel8x0_ids array in sound/pci/intel8x0.c will cause the
intel driver to recognize and handle the card.

 On the other hand, I assume your running the newest kernel, as the
modifications for hda_intel to detect that card was added like 3 weeks
ago to the kernel.

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Printing EPDF: Was: Saving editable PDF forms?

2007-02-05 Thread Steven W. Orr
This is my 1st exposure to EPDFs, but last week I filed one out to report 
some guy to the IRS. (Another story) Anyways, there were two sections in 
the form where I could enter freeform text. When the number of lines in 
the section exceeded a certain number, an elevator magically appeared on 
the side to allow me access to all of the text.


The problem was that when I went to print the file (because the IRS won't 
accept the file via the 'net), only as many lines as there were on the 
paper actually printed. I was hoping that the print operation would have 
gone to multiple sheets of paper. Is this expected or is there something I 
could do to cause all the lines to print?


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Re: No FOSS drivers for Dell e521 / Nvidia MCP51 High Definition Audio

2007-02-05 Thread Michael ODonnell


  Hrm, 026c?  Must have been an upgraded device since the initial page
was written, as the other MCP51's are 026b.

  Adding:

{ 0x10de, 0x026c, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, DEVICE_NFORCE }, /* MCP51 */

  to the snd_intel8x0_ids array in sound/pci/intel8x0.c will cause the
intel driver to recognize and handle the card.


Yeah, you'd think that might be a reasonable shot-in-the-dark,
but I tried it already - blood everywhere! - it was horrible...
The difference between 026b and 026c is apparently large.  ;-
 
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Re: Saving editable PDF forms?

2007-02-05 Thread aluminumsulfate

 From: Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:23:37 -0500
 Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org

 Err, Oops, yeah, that would be it.  My brain was parsing it as a
 misspelling of 'contradiction'.  My humble apologies to all here, and
 especially to Greg!  I will cease and desist from being the spelling
 police :)

Maybe we could create three more gnhlug lists: gnhlug-announce-spelling,
gnhlug-org-spelling, and gnh-lug-jobs-spelling.  Ben could volunteer to
write an ispell-mailman spelling bot and subscribe the bot to
gnhlug-announce, gnhlug-org, and gnhlug-jobs.  When a message sent to any
one of the lists contains a misspelled word, a warning message (or
automatically-corrected version of the original message) gould be forwarded
to the respective *-spelling list.

People with an interest in the typographical technicalia of the gnhlug-*
lists could then subscribe to receive all the spelling reports they're
interested in.  And--I'm sure--Ben's bot wouldn't mistake
contraindications for contradictions either. :)
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Re: No FOSS drivers for Dell e521 / Nvidia MCP51 High Definition Audio

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas Charron

On 2/5/07, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hrm, 026c?  Must have been an upgraded device since the initial page
was written, as the other MCP51's are 026b.
  Adding:
{ 0x10de, 0x026c, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, DEVICE_NFORCE }, /* MCP51 */
  to the snd_intel8x0_ids array in sound/pci/intel8x0.c will cause the
intel driver to recognize and handle the card.
Yeah, you'd think that might be a reasonable shot-in-the-dark,
but I tried it already - blood everywhere! - it was horrible...
The difference between 026b and 026c is apparently large.  ;-


 But the hda_intel supported it minimally?  What kernel version?  The
changelog to the module seemed to insinuate that it worked pretty
well.

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Re: No FOSS drivers for Dell e521 / Nvidia MCP51 High Definition Audio

2007-02-05 Thread Michael ODonnell



 { 0x10de, 0x026c, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, DEVICE_NFORCE }, /* MCP51 */
   to the snd_intel8x0_ids array in sound/pci/intel8x0.c will cause the
 intel driver to recognize and handle the card.
 Yeah, you'd think that might be a reasonable shot-in-the-dark,
   [...]

But the hda_intel supported it minimally?  What kernel version?
The changelog to the module seemed to insinuate that it worked
pretty well.


The hda_intel driver initializes/manages the hardware well
enough that RealPlayer or xmms or FlashPlayer can at least
play music through it, and it sounds OK - no worse than the
SoundBlaster I had in the machine I just retired.  But none
of those apps can control the volume, so I always have to be
running alsamixer or tkmixer, as well, for use as a volume
control.  And neither alsamixer nor tkmixer offer to allow
me to adjust anything other than the volume - all the rest of
the mixers and such are either not presented or not functioning.

My distribution is a very recent Debian unstable.

## uname -a
Linux e521 2.6.19.2.e521 #1 SMP Sat Jan 27 11:09:20 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux

## lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
snd_hda_intel  21016  1
snd_hda_codec 181888  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm_oss40736  0
snd_mixer_oss  16640  2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm70660  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer  21764  1 snd_pcm
snd51304  6 
snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore  10208  2 snd
snd_page_alloc 10632  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
.
.
.
 
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Re: Printing EPDF: Was: Saving editable PDF forms?

2007-02-05 Thread Paul Lussier
Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Is this expected or is there something I could do to cause
  insert desirable action here

I am beginning to believe the correct answer is: Don't use these [EMAIL 
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forms!  Sadly, PDF seems to be another example of a good idea ruined
with bad implementation.

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Re: Printing EPDF: Was: Saving editable PDF forms?

2007-02-05 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Monday, Feb 5th 2007 at 15:24 -0500, quoth Paul Lussier:

=Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
=
=  Is this expected or is there something I could do to cause
=  insert desirable action here
=
=I am beginning to believe the correct answer is: Don't use these [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
=forms!  Sadly, PDF seems to be another example of a good idea ruined
=with bad implementation.

I'm not even sure why it should be viewed as a good idea. Other than the 
dynamic part, it was only intended to be a more compact form of 
PostScript, no?

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Re: No FOSS drivers for Dell e521 / Nvidia MCP51 High Definition Audio

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas Charron

On 2/5/07, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But the hda_intel supported it minimally?  What kernel version?
The changelog to the module seemed to insinuate that it worked
pretty well.
The hda_intel driver initializes/manages the hardware well
enough that RealPlayer or xmms or FlashPlayer can at least
play music through it, and it sounds OK - no worse than the
SoundBlaster I had in the machine I just retired.  But none
of those apps can control the volume, so I always have to be
running alsamixer or tkmixer, as well, for use as a volume
control.  And neither alsamixer nor tkmixer offer to allow
me to adjust anything other than the volume - all the rest of
the mixers and such are either not presented or not functioning.


 Check out http://www.archivesat.com/Linux_audio_users/thread1284163.htm

 Perhaps it relates to your issue, while not directly.  Almost sounds
like alsa is saying, 'Yes, I see some kind of soundcard, but I don't
know Poo about it', and providing very minimal capabilities.  alsaconf
may help.

--
-- Thomas
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Re: [GNHLUG] CentraLUG, Feb 5th, NHTI: Matt Brodeur GnuPG and OpenPGP, keysigning.

2007-02-05 Thread Matt Brodeur

On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 04:00:57PM -0500, Ted Roche wrote:

 Following the presentation, a PGP keysigning event will be
 held. Anyone interested in exchanging key signatures with other
 local PGP users can find details on our website,... as soon as we've
 set it up. Stay tuned.

Since I expect it to be a small group (and since I haven't yet set up
the formal keysigning scripts), I'll be moderating an informal
keysigning[1] after the presentation.  

Anyone who's interested in exchanging key signatures is encouraged to
participate.  You'll need, minimally, your key ID, key fingerprint, and
at least one well recognized photo ID.  The verification process will
go faster if you can bring several copies of your key information to
pass around to other members.  For example I'll have my Red Hat
business cards pre-printed with my RH key, plus stickers on the back
with my personal key information.  I'll also have my passport and NH
driver's license for identification.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, feel free to show up
anyway.  I'll be doing a (relatively) brief Why and How
presentation and some QA before starting the keysigning process.

[1] 
http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html#traditional

-- 
Matt Brodeur RHCE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nexttime.com
PGP ID: 2CFE18A3 / 9EBA 7F1E 42D1 7A43 5884  560C 73CF D615 2CFE 18A3
Life is what happens to you while you are planning to do something else. 


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Re: Objections to JTC-1 Fast-Track Processing of the Ecma 376 Specification v. 0.1

2007-02-05 Thread Greg Rundlett

On 2/4/07, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Feb 3, 2007, at 22:16, Paul Lussier wrote:

 Greg Rundlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 example, look at the contraindications brought to light regarding how

 Not to pick on Greg personally, but since he sent this to the list,
 I'd like to use it as a reminder to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use a
 spellchecker.  More importantly, before hitting that 'Send this
 message now' button, proof-read your own e-mail.

Care to point out the error?  His sentence is something my high
school english teacher would write overly complex on in red ink,
but I can still diagram it.



I do tend to write complex, long sentences.  My thoughts are even
longer and more complex ;-)   It isn't easy objecting to a 6,000 page
proposal in less than a few paragraphs.  And I did it at 1am.

I'm just heckling Paul now, but I think he's upset that I liked his
sig so much that I borrowed it.

-- Greg my other sig is a bumper-sticker Rundlett

Apologies to Ben.
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[GNHLUG] NHRuby.org Meeting, Feb. 20, 2007: RJS Templates.

2007-02-05 Thread Scott Garman
It's that time again - time for the second meeting of the NH Ruby/Rails
User Group!

WHEN: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 from 7-9 PM.
WHERE: Portsmouth Public Library, MacLeod Board Room. Portsmouth, NH.

For a map and driving directions, see:
http://wiki.nhruby.org/index.php/Upcoming_meetings

WHAT: RJS Templates - an exciting feature of Ruby on Rails that allows
you to make changes to your web pages and make AJAX calls while still
writing Ruby code. It's literally a Ruby-to-Javascript API, with hooks
for Prototype actions and Script.aculo.us visual effects.

You might use RJS Templates to do things such as:

* Insert or replace data on your web page.
* Dynamically show or hide objects on your web page with impressive
visual effects.
* Standardize your web application's interactive behavior across
multiple pages.

...all without requiring page reloads.

We'll be watching a PeepCode screencast on RJS templates, with a QA
session afterward.

There will be FREE STUFF to giveaway during this meeting! No one will
walk away empty-handed.

After the meeting, a few of us are likely to hit a local bar in
Portsmouth. Anyone is welcome to join us!

NHRuby.org Wiki: http://wiki.nhruby.org

Scott Garman

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sgarman at iname dot com
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