Re: how dumb is this idea?
My bad, left off the "R". s/b RSA 21-R:10-14 http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/I/21-R/21-R-mrg.htm Ron On Thu, 22 May 2014 19:55:09 -0400 Matt Minuti wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:32 PM, wrote: > > > I don't think it's your problem; the school needs to fix it. > > > > Read New Hampshire RSA 21:10-14. > > > > Uhh, I think you might've meant something else. > http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/i/21/21-mrg.htm doesn't seem all > that applicable, unless you're trying to say something about the > definitions of the words "charter," "seal," "justice," "preceeding," > "following," "said," or "such..." ;) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:32 PM, wrote: > I don't think it's your problem; the school needs to fix it. > > Read New Hampshire RSA 21:10-14. > Uhh, I think you might've meant something else. http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/i/21/21-mrg.htm doesn't seem all that applicable, unless you're trying to say something about the definitions of the words "charter," "seal," "justice," "preceeding," "following," "said," or "such..." ;) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
I don't think it's your problem; the school needs to fix it. Read New Hampshire RSA 21:10-14. Ron == On Thu, 22 May 2014 12:59:15 -0400 David Rysdam wrote: > My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of > us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately > obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the > school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can > work on projects. > > I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For > something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and > dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no > child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think > GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the > solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both > places, during in-class work periods and as homework. > > I don't know what the school expects people to do if they can't afford > Office at home. > > However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for > ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable) > "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB > drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*? > > They probably won't be able to get on the network with it, which is fine > since the host Windows OS could handle that. > > Transferring documents (for printing, say) may be a problem, although I > assume the live CD images somehow manage it. Oh wait, to reap the > benefit you'd have to print *from Linux* which probably won't work even > if you had the right printer driver set up. Well, print at home, I > guess. > > I don't think security would be a problem unless there's now some way to > prevent someone from starting an app off their USB drive. > > The only real issue I can think of horsepower: Does the school hardware > have the oomph to support this hack? I'll have to ask my kids what the > school has. > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Matt Minuti wrote: > Have you considered asking the school what they do in situations where > either the family can't afford the software, doesn't have a computer that > can run the software, or simply doesn't have a computer? That might open > the doors to a reasonable solution. > > What he said. If they're doing fancy animation in the PPT, they're doing the wrong thing IMO. A good presenter can make their point in a noisy bar, possibly a napkin. The best PPT/animation/multimedia can't make a bad presentation better. Teach to present, not to do fancy stuff with PPT. > Unfortunately, most schools think of "computer" classes as classes in > Microsoft Office, many using > Yes, that's pretty sad. In my day, we didn't have Office and computer classes were programming. We had typewriter classes for the office/secretarial type stuff. There is a place for learning spreadsheets, word processors and the like. Just like learning to use a pencil, ruler, protractor, calculator. There is still a need for learning "computers" that the average office worker doesn't learn. Programming, installing software or an OS, building a computer. > some of that infuriating SAM garbage. I've seen Pinkerton using that > stuff, and it actually marks you as wrong if you Ctrl-C to copy instead of > clicking an obscure ribbon icon. You may be entering a larger (and quite > worthy IMHO) battle without realizing it. > In college, one of my friends got the right answer on a fluid dynamics test by solving with thermodynamic methods (equations?) instead of the fluid dynamic methods taught in the course (yes, it is possible for some problems). He got partial credit. If he had just put the answer down w/o showing his work, he would've gotten no credit. > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Kevin French wrote: > >> You could just use basic Office online for free. >> https://www.office.com/start/default.aspx >> >> -Original Message- >> From: gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org [mailto: >> gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org] On Behalf Of David Rysdam >> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 14:21 >> To: Tom Buskey; Patrick Flaherty >> Cc: GNHLUG >> Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea? >> >> Tom Buskey writes: >> > Or, even easier, portable Libre Office running on Windows. Then the >> > data files are always Libre Office format on a USB drive. Edit on >> > Linux, edit on Windows, always running Libre Office. >> > >> > http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable/ I'd suggest >> > doing this in any event. >> >> Reading these links, I realized that this isn't going to work, at least >> not with the cheap-o 128 GB drives. These things are pretty slow. I >> probably want a smaller, USB 3.0 drive. >> >> > However, I bet the school is teaching *PowerPoint*, not presentation >> > software. In which case the student is expected to provide a >> > powerpoint that works on the school's system. If that is the case, >> > you should work out with the teacher how to do things at home. Maybe >> > LibreOffice on a thumb drive is ok. >> >> In the computer class, they probably are teaching particular apps but I >> *think* they always have time to work on them there in that case. For >> other classes, they are usually handing in paper, well for the Word >> situations anyway. I guess they must be displaying PPT on the computer, as >> you say. >> >> I guess that makes the entire project moot. NM. >> ___ >> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >> >> ___ >> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >> > > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Any Word Press Developers
I am asking on behalf of a client. They have a website developed by a tech college student using Word Press. The student not longer is around/available to make some modest tweaks to the site. I was asked if I knew anyone who might be able to make the changes. Which in turn causes me to make a query to the GNHLUG. This is a business arrangement and they are not expecting free help. If anyone has an interest or knows the names of developers familiar with Word press, I would appreciate an email. Thank you and I hope this does not violate a TOS. Ed lawson ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: gnhlug-discuss Digest, Vol 92, Issue 7
It seems it is possible to install a portable virtual box on a USB drive. That along with your favorite virtual distro would let your kids do what they want - run linux - on their school computers. You probably would be best off configuring your virtualbox network to use NAT. http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-virtualbox-in-usb/ I have not done this myself, but might give it a go.I have installed knoppix on a usb drive and it works quite well. But this would require reboots and would not make printing etc so easy.Knoppix will also run within a virtual machine. Another option would be to install virtual box or vmware player for windows on the school machines of they can get that done. David On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:31 PM, wrote: > Send gnhlug-discuss mailing list submissions to > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gnhlug-discuss-requ...@mail.gnhlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gnhlug-discuss-ow...@mail.gnhlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of gnhlug-discuss digest..." > > Today's Topics: > >1. how dumb is this idea? (David Rysdam) >2. Re: how dumb is this idea? (David Hardy) >3. Re: how dumb is this idea? (David Rysdam) >4. Re: how dumb is this idea? (Brian St. Pierre) >5. Re: how dumb is this idea? (Patrick Flaherty) >6. Re: how dumb is this idea? (David Rysdam) >7. Re: how dumb is this idea? (David Rysdam) > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: David Rysdam > To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > Cc: > Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 12:59:15 -0400 > Subject: how dumb is this idea? > My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of > us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately > obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the > school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can > work on projects. > > I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For > something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and > dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no > child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think > GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the > solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both > places, during in-class work periods and as homework. > > I don't know what the school expects people to do if they can't afford > Office at home. > > However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for > ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable) > "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB > drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*? > > They probably won't be able to get on the network with it, which is fine > since the host Windows OS could handle that. > > Transferring documents (for printing, say) may be a problem, although I > assume the live CD images somehow manage it. Oh wait, to reap the > benefit you'd have to print *from Linux* which probably won't work even > if you had the right printer driver set up. Well, print at home, I > guess. > > I don't think security would be a problem unless there's now some way to > prevent someone from starting an app off their USB drive. > > The only real issue I can think of horsepower: Does the school hardware > have the oomph to support this hack? I'll have to ask my kids what the > school has. > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: David Hardy > To: David Rysdam > Cc: GNHLUG > Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 13:13:01 -0400 > Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea? > What comes to mind immediately, and this may not be workable for you in > that situation; why not a Tails USB stick with persistence enabled? > Internet would then also good. But will the schools even allow any of > this at all? > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David Rysdam wrote: > >> My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of >> us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately >> obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the >> school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can >> work on projects. >> >> I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For >> something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and >> dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no >> child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think >> GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the >> solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both >> places,
Re: how dumb is this idea?
Have you considered asking the school what they do in situations where either the family can't afford the software, doesn't have a computer that can run the software, or simply doesn't have a computer? That might open the doors to a reasonable solution. Unfortunately, most schools think of "computer" classes as classes in Microsoft Office, many using some of that infuriating SAM garbage. I've seen Pinkerton using that stuff, and it actually marks you as wrong if you Ctrl-C to copy instead of clicking an obscure ribbon icon. You may be entering a larger (and quite worthy IMHO) battle without realizing it. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Kevin French wrote: > You could just use basic Office online for free. > https://www.office.com/start/default.aspx > > -Original Message- > From: gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org [mailto: > gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org] On Behalf Of David Rysdam > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 14:21 > To: Tom Buskey; Patrick Flaherty > Cc: GNHLUG > Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea? > > Tom Buskey writes: > > Or, even easier, portable Libre Office running on Windows. Then the > > data files are always Libre Office format on a USB drive. Edit on > > Linux, edit on Windows, always running Libre Office. > > > > http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable/ I'd suggest > > doing this in any event. > > Reading these links, I realized that this isn't going to work, at least > not with the cheap-o 128 GB drives. These things are pretty slow. I > probably want a smaller, USB 3.0 drive. > > > However, I bet the school is teaching *PowerPoint*, not presentation > > software. In which case the student is expected to provide a > > powerpoint that works on the school's system. If that is the case, > > you should work out with the teacher how to do things at home. Maybe > > LibreOffice on a thumb drive is ok. > > In the computer class, they probably are teaching particular apps but I > *think* they always have time to work on them there in that case. For > other classes, they are usually handing in paper, well for the Word > situations anyway. I guess they must be displaying PPT on the computer, as > you say. > > I guess that makes the entire project moot. NM. > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
Derek Atkins writes: > Another option would be to export your LibreOffice Impress presentation to > PDF, and then you can play it on any PDF Viewer. Honestly, this is what I > do when actually presenting slides on my Linux box -- I ask the other > presenters to send me PDF instead of PPT. That's what I do at work. And I guess that could work. Use LO locally at home, via USB at school then export to PDF to hand in. > I guess it all depends on how much you want to fight for your kids' right > to use Linux? Installing Windows is a non-starter for multiple reasons. That said, it might actually be a feature that they can't work on these documents at home very well. Encourages planning ahead to do it at school. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
I second the Google Apps suggestion. My kids school uses Google exclusively and it's easy for the kids to learn and use. Plus it's accessible any where with interwebs connection. I would check with the teachers and administration to see if this is a viable option. Short of that, try the LO options mentioned or the VM hack also looks promising. I may try that one out myself. Schools generally push acceptance and inclusion in all their other activities, computing shouldn't be any different. Fight the good fight ;-) -- Joel Burtram Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Patrick Flaherty Date:05/22/2014 13:16 (GMT-05:00) To: David Rysdam Cc: GNHLUG Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea? Have you played with portable apps (http://portableapps.com/)? Libre office works on windows and linux. Past that, maybe something hosted (like google docs, but maybe a bit more Free). On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David Rysdam wrote: My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can work on projects. I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both places, during in-class work periods and as homework. I don't know what the school expects people to do if they can't afford Office at home. However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable) "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*? They probably won't be able to get on the network with it, which is fine since the host Windows OS could handle that. Transferring documents (for printing, say) may be a problem, although I assume the live CD images somehow manage it. Oh wait, to reap the benefit you'd have to print *from Linux* which probably won't work even if you had the right printer driver set up. Well, print at home, I guess. I don't think security would be a problem unless there's now some way to prevent someone from starting an app off their USB drive. The only real issue I can think of horsepower: Does the school hardware have the oomph to support this hack? I'll have to ask my kids what the school has. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ -- Patrick Flaherty | w: 978 983 6597 e: patrick.flahe...@weather.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
RE: how dumb is this idea?
You could just use basic Office online for free. https://www.office.com/start/default.aspx -Original Message- From: gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org [mailto:gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org] On Behalf Of David Rysdam Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 14:21 To: Tom Buskey; Patrick Flaherty Cc: GNHLUG Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea? Tom Buskey writes: > Or, even easier, portable Libre Office running on Windows. Then the > data files are always Libre Office format on a USB drive. Edit on > Linux, edit on Windows, always running Libre Office. > > http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable/ I'd suggest > doing this in any event. Reading these links, I realized that this isn't going to work, at least not with the cheap-o 128 GB drives. These things are pretty slow. I probably want a smaller, USB 3.0 drive. > However, I bet the school is teaching *PowerPoint*, not presentation > software. In which case the student is expected to provide a > powerpoint that works on the school's system. If that is the case, > you should work out with the teacher how to do things at home. Maybe > LibreOffice on a thumb drive is ok. In the computer class, they probably are teaching particular apps but I *think* they always have time to work on them there in that case. For other classes, they are usually handing in paper, well for the Word situations anyway. I guess they must be displaying PPT on the computer, as you say. I guess that makes the entire project moot. NM. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
Tom Buskey writes: > Or, even easier, portable Libre Office running on Windows. Then the data > files are always Libre Office format on a USB drive. Edit on Linux, edit > on Windows, always running Libre Office. > > http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable/ I'd suggest > doing this in any event. Reading these links, I realized that this isn't going to work, at least not with the cheap-o 128 GB drives. These things are pretty slow. I probably want a smaller, USB 3.0 drive. > However, I bet the school is teaching *PowerPoint*, not presentation > software. In which case the student is expected to provide a powerpoint > that works on the school's system. If that is the case, you should work > out with the teacher how to do things at home. Maybe LibreOffice on a > thumb drive is ok. In the computer class, they probably are teaching particular apps but I *think* they always have time to work on them there in that case. For other classes, they are usually handing in paper, well for the Word situations anyway. I guess they must be displaying PPT on the computer, as you say. I guess that makes the entire project moot. NM. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
Portable VirtualBox - to Run Linux in a VM from a USB drive in a Windows system http://lifehacker.com/portable-virtualbox-lets-you-take-virtual-machines-anyw-1572641481 http://www.vbox.me/ Or, even easier, portable Libre Office running on Windows. Then the data files are always Libre Office format on a USB drive. Edit on Linux, edit on Windows, always running Libre Office. http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable/ I'd suggest doing this in any event. However, I bet the school is teaching *PowerPoint*, not presentation software. In which case the student is expected to provide a powerpoint that works on the school's system. If that is the case, you should work out with the teacher how to do things at home. Maybe LibreOffice on a thumb drive is ok. FWIW - in Cub Scouting, I've found lots of reference to OpenOffice instead of the expensive brand. Most schools have a licensing deal with MS and don't think of it. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Patrick Flaherty wrote: > Have you played with portable apps (http://portableapps.com/)? Libre > office works on windows and linux. Past that, maybe something hosted (like > google docs, but maybe a bit more Free). > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David Rysdam wrote: > >> My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of >> us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately >> obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the >> school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can >> work on projects. >> >> I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For >> something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and >> dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no >> child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think >> GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the >> solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both >> places, during in-class work periods and as homework. >> >> I don't know what the school expects people to do if they can't afford >> Office at home. >> >> However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for >> ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable) >> "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB >> drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*? >> >> They probably won't be able to get on the network with it, which is fine >> since the host Windows OS could handle that. >> >> Transferring documents (for printing, say) may be a problem, although I >> assume the live CD images somehow manage it. Oh wait, to reap the >> benefit you'd have to print *from Linux* which probably won't work even >> if you had the right printer driver set up. Well, print at home, I >> guess. >> >> I don't think security would be a problem unless there's now some way to >> prevent someone from starting an app off their USB drive. >> >> The only real issue I can think of horsepower: Does the school hardware >> have the oomph to support this hack? I'll have to ask my kids what the >> school has. >> ___ >> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >> > > > > -- > * Patrick **Flaherty *| > * w:* 978 983 6597 *e:* patrick.flahe...@weather.com > > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
Patrick Flaherty writes: > Have you played with portable apps (http://portableapps.com/)? Libre office > works on windows and linux. Past that, maybe something hosted (like google > docs, but maybe a bit more Free). This looks interesting, but I'm having trouble turning the "helpful", dumbed-down descriptions into something I can actually understand. Oh, I see Linux is supported "via Wine" so I guess they do a Windows-only installation that you can use on any other Windows computers. That's probably not quite what I want, since I think they'd want their local Linux version and their school Windows version of LO to be the same for various reasons. That said, it might be the easiest way to figure out how to get a Windows installation of LO onto a USB drive with everything in the right dirs and everything. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
David Hardy writes: > What comes to mind immediately, and this may not be workable for you in > that situation; why not a Tails USB stick with persistence enabled? You started off in English and then trailed off. The last word I understood was "a"... ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
Have you played with portable apps (http://portableapps.com/)? Libre office works on windows and linux. Past that, maybe something hosted (like google docs, but maybe a bit more Free). On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David Rysdam wrote: > My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of > us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately > obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the > school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can > work on projects. > > I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For > something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and > dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no > child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think > GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the > solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both > places, during in-class work periods and as homework. > > I don't know what the school expects people to do if they can't afford > Office at home. > > However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for > ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable) > "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB > drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*? > > They probably won't be able to get on the network with it, which is fine > since the host Windows OS could handle that. > > Transferring documents (for printing, say) may be a problem, although I > assume the live CD images somehow manage it. Oh wait, to reap the > benefit you'd have to print *from Linux* which probably won't work even > if you had the right printer driver set up. Well, print at home, I > guess. > > I don't think security would be a problem unless there's now some way to > prevent someone from starting an app off their USB drive. > > The only real issue I can think of horsepower: Does the school hardware > have the oomph to support this hack? I'll have to ask my kids what the > school has. > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > -- * Patrick **Flaherty *| * w:* 978 983 6597 *e:* patrick.flahe...@weather.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David Rysdam wrote: > However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for > ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable) > "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB > drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*? To me, it seems like a lot of effort when there are perhaps easier solutions -- maybe you've already considered these and they don't work for some reason or other? * if school provides network access during in-class work sessions, edit in google docs at both locations * if school's admin policies let you run an emulator executable off the USB, then you could put a windows version of Libreoffice on that USB drive and run LO in both places * you mention printing as a problem -- just generate pdf and print from windows at school? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
Derek Atkins writes: > a) Linux supports FATfs, so just use the USB drives as-is.. They usually > come formatted in FAT. This will work cross-platform. > > b) Why don't you use Open/LibreOffice at home? That can export to Word, > Excel, or PowerPoint as necessary. Yes, this is the current situation I'm describing as a nightmare. Have you actually tried to use both LibreOffice and PowerPoint, back and forth, to edit the same document? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: how dumb is this idea?
What comes to mind immediately, and this may not be workable for you in that situation; why not a Tails USB stick with persistence enabled? Internet would then also good. But will the schools even allow any of this at all? On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David Rysdam wrote: > My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of > us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately > obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the > school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can > work on projects. > > I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For > something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and > dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no > child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think > GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the > solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both > places, during in-class work periods and as homework. > > I don't know what the school expects people to do if they can't afford > Office at home. > > However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for > ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable) > "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB > drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*? > > They probably won't be able to get on the network with it, which is fine > since the host Windows OS could handle that. > > Transferring documents (for printing, say) may be a problem, although I > assume the live CD images somehow manage it. Oh wait, to reap the > benefit you'd have to print *from Linux* which probably won't work even > if you had the right printer driver set up. Well, print at home, I > guess. > > I don't think security would be a problem unless there's now some way to > prevent someone from starting an app off their USB drive. > > The only real issue I can think of horsepower: Does the school hardware > have the oomph to support this hack? I'll have to ask my kids what the > school has. > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > -- Sent from whatever machine I might be on right now. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
how dumb is this idea?
My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can work on projects. I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both places, during in-class work periods and as homework. I don't know what the school expects people to do if they can't afford Office at home. However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable) "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*? They probably won't be able to get on the network with it, which is fine since the host Windows OS could handle that. Transferring documents (for printing, say) may be a problem, although I assume the live CD images somehow manage it. Oh wait, to reap the benefit you'd have to print *from Linux* which probably won't work even if you had the right printer driver set up. Well, print at home, I guess. I don't think security would be a problem unless there's now some way to prevent someone from starting an app off their USB drive. The only real issue I can think of horsepower: Does the school hardware have the oomph to support this hack? I'll have to ask my kids what the school has. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
