Why is sound so complicated?
This may be obvious, but not to me. Why does sound seem to be so complicated on Linux? There seem to be so many pieces to get sound. I have been thinking about this trying to get sound working on LTSP. There is ALSA, OSS, Gnome and KDE have their needed daemons to work properly among others. I think freedesktop is working on MAS. Then other such things as ESD, GStreamer, Phonon, PulseAudio and whatever else there might be skulking about. Is anyone able to give me an idea why it seems so chaotic? I believe in free choice, but this seems overkill and more of a major headache. Just wondering, Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Ignition (was Re: tftp config problem (ltsp))
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:07:18 + From: sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] During the boot process was getting error notices about not being able to connect to the nfs server. Did some research and found this sometimes occurs when the speed of the server nic is so much faster then the client nic. Apparently this showed up with the 2.6 kernel. Care to share what the problem/solution was? This sounds like something which others on this list might likely encounter. Could not find where I saw the original write up. But it has to do with the NIC in the server box being 1G and the NIC in the test laptop being only 100MB. Something about such a wide spread in the speed capabilities causes the slower NIC not to be able to keep up with the faster one. In the prelinux.cfg directory I added the last line to the default file. prompt 0 label linux kernel bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 append rw root=/dev/ram0 initrd=initramfs.gz MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2048 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Ignition (was Re: tftp config problem (ltsp))
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My advice? Just forget about the maze of directories you've created: Just stick all the files in $TFTPROOT, edit all the directory names out of your config files, and try booting. Then, once it works, you can try doing fancy things like $(((play tada.wav)) using subdirectories. :) ___ The light in the darkness. Did not quite do this but looked over the directory structure in the tftp directory compared to what was setup in the ltsp directory. Found some differences. Copied over a directory called 2.6.17.80ltsp-1 which contained all the needed files in proper placement to tftp under the same original name. Adjusted some conf files to point where needed and my test laptop started to boot. First problem I ran into here was due to the touch mouse hardware. It caused the boot to hang or panic. I deactivated the touch mouse and the boot restarted and progressed further till another problem. During the boot process was getting error notices about not being able to connect to the nfs server. Did some research and found this sometimes occurs when the speed of the server nic is so much faster then the client nic. Apparently this showed up with the 2.6 kernel. Anyway, some more tweeks and had a successful boot and was greeted by the KDE login screen. Logged in and was greeted by my usual desktop. Setting are still default so will play with them for such things as sound. Decided to order a diskless workstation from http://www.disklessworkstation.com/ They appear to be a supporter over the ltsp project. Also ordered an etherboot model, since that is an open standard. Now when that shows up get to beat on it for a while. Thanks all for the help, Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: tftp config problem (ltsp)
Paul Lussier wrote:
Blindly killing/restarting things is not likely to help. Rather, it's
more likely to cause problems. Be deliberate and precise in what you
do, don't flail blindly, you'll knock something over or poke someone's
eye out. And, as you know, it's all fun and games until someone loses
an eye!
Thanks Paul.
I only killed a few things if I knew, or thought I knew what it should
be doing. TFTP is working.
I have had a bit more success but still not over the summit.
Specifying in dhcpd.conf a certain setting for filename yields different
results.
In my dhcpd.conf file if I set
filename /pxe/prelinux.0; the client will start the boot process.
After the DHCP output the screen will display
TFTP prefix /pxe/
Then a series of lines stating Trying to load pxelinux.cfg/filename
finally trying default in the end.
After this point I get
Could not find kernel image: linux
boot:
I know from reading the docs that this should mean the kernel is not in
the expected place.
In /tftpboot/lts I have either bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 or
vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1.
I thought tftpboot/lts was the proper location?
The default file is located in /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg
prompt 0
label linux
kernel vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
append rw root=/dev/ram0 initrd=initramfs.gz
I have also tried the bz file as well. Same results.
I can only boot this far if I have filename /pxe/pxelinux.0; set in
dhcpd.conf .
#General Options
default-lease-time 21600;
max-lease-time 21620;
ddns-update-style ad-hoc;
use-host-decl-names on;
#authoritative;
#Boot Options
allow booting;
allow bootp;
#Network Options
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address192.168.0.255;
option domain-name mydomain.net;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;
option log-servers 192.168.0.11;
option routers 192.168.0.1;
#LTSP Path Options
option root-path192.168.0.11:/opt/ltsp-4.2/i386;
#filename /lts/vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1;
filename/pxe/pxelinux.0;
next-server 192.168.0.11;
shared-network WORKSTATIONS
{
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
{
range dynamic-bootp 192.168.0.40 192.168.0.50;
}
}
If I set filename to the vm or bz image mentioned earlier, I will get
the NBP is to large error.
So far no idea how to cure this problem.
Thanks
Sean
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Re: tftp config problem (ltsp)
Paul Lussier wrote:
Remember that tftp
effectively chroots you to $INTFTPD_PATH. Therefore, whatever file you
need to 'get' will have to be in the form of a literal path with that
in mind.
If you've set $INTFTPD_PATH to /tftpboot, you can not specify a DHCP
server filename option for some path that is NOT downn /tftpboot.
For example:
My inetd.conf file specifies:
tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tft pd \
-s -r blksize /boot/fai
That last argument is the tftp root directory.
My DHCP config specifies:
next-server fai;
filename pxelinux.0;
Guess where pxelinux.0 lives ? In /boot/fai.
I understand that pxelinux.0 lives in /boot/fai.
This is my /tftboot layout
tardis tftpboot # ls -R
.:
lts pxe pxelinux.cfg
./lts:
bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
./pxe:
bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1eb-5.0.9-eepro100.lzpxe initramfs.gz
eb-5.0.9-3c905c-tpo.lzpxe eb-5.0.9-rtl8139.lzpxe pxelinux.0
./pxelinux.cfg:
default
My in.tftpd
# /etc/init.d/in.tftpd
# Path to server files from
# Depending on your application you may have to change this.
# This is commented out to force you to look at the file!
#INTFTPD_PATH=/var/tftp/
INTFTPD_PATH=/tftpboot
#INTFTPD_PATH=/tftproot/
# For more options, see in.tftpd(8)
# -R 4096:32767 solves problems with ARC firmware, and obsoletes
# the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range hack.
# -s causes $INTFTPD_PATH to be the root of the TFTP tree.
# -l is passed by the init script in addition to these options.
INTFTPD_OPTS=-R 4096:32767 -s ${INTFTPD_PATH}
I read that the -s option means secure and that the /tftboot
is understood to be preceding the /pxe below?
filename/pxe/pxelinux.0;
When I specified the above in dhcpd.conf the client booted till it could
not find the kernel, which would be the vmlinuz file below.
When filename was setup as
filename /lts/vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1;
The client tried appeared to pull the file. I received a NBP is too
large error. That would seem to be that the file is transferred.
My next server is by IP.
Thanks Paul. Just trying to make sure all that you are writing.
Sean
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Re: tftp config problem (ltsp)
Matt Oquist wrote: Hi Sean, I recommend installing a tftp client and testing the tftp fetching manually. On the server you'll want to make sure that tftpd is running (either via inetd or manually...testing by starting manually is a good idea) and that the file you're trying to fetch is located in the proper path under the tftproot. Hope this helps... --matt Hi Matt, Thanks for the response. You stated what I had discovered just after sending the original message. TFTP is not running. When I started it manually I found the following in the message log, attempted here again. Nov 4 15:30:30 tardis in.tftpd[10315]: cannot bind to local socket: Address already in use Not sure what is blocking the socket. Would you know how can I check? I tried killing and starting a few things, but no luck. Thanks Sean P.S. Someone else had responded to me but I deleted the message. Thanks as well for the response. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
tftp config problem (ltsp)
I am trying to get LTSP working here.
All appear on the right track with one apparent problem, tftp'ing the file.
When I boot a client it appears to pull in the network information but
when it starts to tftp the file, I receive a message that the file is
not found on the client display.
I have been following the instructions here,
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ltsp.xml
and of course alter to what I need for my system.
Am I missing something obvious or something less so?
Thanks,
Sean
Below is my in.tftpd file.
# /etc/init.d/in.tftpd
# Path to server files from
# Depending on your application you may have to change this.
# This is commented out to force you to look at the file!
#INTFTPD_PATH=/var/tftp/
INTFTPD_PATH=/tftpboot/
#INTFTPD_PATH=/tftproot/
# For more options, see in.tftpd(8)
# -R 4096:32767 solves problems with ARC firmware, and obsoletes
# the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range hack.
# -s causes $INTFTPD_PATH to be the root of the TFTP tree.
# -l is passed by the init script in addition to these options.
#INTFTPD_OPTS=-R 4096:32767 -s ${INTFTPD_PATH}
INTFTPD_OPTS= -s ${INTFTPD_PATH}
The tftp file looks exactly like the one specified in the instructions.
Here is my dhcpd.conf file
#General Options
default-lease-time 21600;
max-lease-time 21620;
ddns-update-style ad-hoc;
use-host-decl-names on;
#authoritative;
#Boot Options
allow booting;
allow bootp;
#Network Options
#option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
#option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
#option domain-name mydomain.net;
#option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;
#option log-servers 192.168.0.11;
#option routers 192.168.0.1;
#LTSP Path Options
option root-path192.168.0.11:/opt/ltsp-4.2/i386;
filename /opt/ltsp-4.2/vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1;
#filename /tftboot/lts/ltsp-4.2/vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1;
next-server 192.168.0.11;
shared-network WORKSTATIONS
{
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
{
range dynamic-bootp 192.168.0.40 192.168.0.50;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
option domain-name mydomain.net;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;
option log-servers 192.168.0.11;
option routers 192.168.0.1;
}
}
ls of the opt/ltsp location
tardis / # cd opt/ltsp-4.2/
tardis ltsp-4.2 # ls
2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 i386 vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
tardis ltsp-4.2 # pwd
/opt/ltsp-4.2
tardis ltsp-4.2 #
ls of the tftpboot structure
tardis tftpboot # pwd
/tftpboot
tardis tftpboot # ls
lts pxe pxelinux.cfg
tardis tftpboot # cd lts/
tardis lts # ls
vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
tardis lts # cd ..
tardis tftpboot # cd pxe
tardis pxe # ls
bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1eb-5.0.9-eepro100.lzpxe initramfs.gz
eb-5.0.9-3c905c-tpo.lzpxe eb-5.0.9-rtl8139.lzpxe pxelinux.0
tardis pxe #
Here is the tail of the message log. If I am rading correctly, it looks
proper and the client is trying to start the tftp session.
Nov 3 18:44:18 tardis dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:00:86:43:b9:c0 via eth0
Nov 3 18:44:19 tardis dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.40 to
00:00:86:43:b9:c0 via eth0
Nov 3 18:44:20 tardis dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:00:86:43:b9:c0 via eth0
Nov 3 18:44:20 tardis dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.40 to
00:00:86:43:b9:c0 via eth0
Nov 3 18:44:24 tardis dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:00:86:43:b9:c0 via eth0
Nov 3 18:44:24 tardis dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.40 to
00:00:86:43:b9:c0 via eth0
Nov 3 18:44:32 tardis dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.40
(192.168.0.11) from 00:00:86:43:b9:c0 via eth0
Nov 3 18:44:32 tardis dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.0.40 to
00:00:86:43:b9:c0 via eth0
Nov 3 18:44:32 tardis xinetd[12818]: START: tftp pid=12826
from=192.168.0.40
Here is some info from the message log after starting xinetd.
That file is at default.
Nov 3 19:01:22 tardis xinetd[13084]: Reading included configuration
file: /etc/xinetd.d/chargen-dgram [file=/etc/xinetd.conf] [line=49]
Nov 3 19:01:22 tardis xinetd[13084]: Reading included configuration
file: /etc/xinetd.d/chargen-stream [file=/etc/xinetd.d/chargen-stream]
[line=67]
Nov 3 19:01:22 tardis xinetd[13084]: Reading included configuration
file: /etc/xinetd.d/cups-lpd [file=/etc/xinetd.d/cups-lpd] [line=67]
Nov 3 19:01:22 tardis xinetd[13084]: Reading included configuration
file: /etc/xinetd.d/daytime-dgram [file=/etc/xinetd.d/daytime-dgram]
[line=12]
Nov 3 19:01:22 tardis xinetd[13084]: Reading included configuration
file: /etc/xinetd.d/daytime-stream [file=/etc/xinetd.d/daytime-stream]
[line=67]
Nov 3 19:01:22 tardis xinetd[13084]: Reading included configuration
file: /etc
Re: Kids Educational Programs
Dan Jenkins wrote: Moodle can be great, though we are still getting our feet wet with that. Moodle just made a recent appearance here as well. I've done nothing with it, but it seems the world will revolve this product. Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Kids Educational Programs
The school district has just setup Linux here at the local school, Edubuntu was the flavor of choice. A few educational programs are in place for the kids and I am trying to find recommendations for others to try to display to the teachers what this setup can do for them. The school is K-5, so that might help with your responses. Some currently installed kids programs include GCompris, Tux Paint, Childsplay, and part of the KDE Edutainment package. I have already asked the district to install the complete KDE package. So what other valuable suggestion might some of you have here? Thanks Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Excessive processor usage
Ben Scott wrote: On 8/6/07, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am beginning to think it is my drive as the problem, it seems to be writing a great deal when I see the problem. Time for backups! No, the time for backups is *before* you start having trouble ;-) Actually I keep backups already. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Excessive processor usage
I have been what appears to be excessive activity on one of my two processors and am trying to track down why. I have not noticed anything using TOP, so that I would ask here how might I best be able to track down what is causing the apparent excessive processor activity. Thanks Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Excessive processor usage
Dave Johnson wrote: sean writes: I have been what appears to be excessive activity on one of my two processors and am trying to track down why. I have not noticed anything using TOP, so that I would ask here how might I best be able to track down what is causing the apparent excessive processor activity. Recent kernels stopped showing multi-thread programs in their own /proc directory and move them into subdirectories under the main process. $ ps u -Le |grep mythfrontend pmg 21859 21859 0.02 4.9 165292 100284 ? SJul22 2:01 mythfrontend pmg 21859 21862 0.02 4.9 165292 100284 ? SJul22 0:00 mythfrontend that would have been: /proc/21859 /proc/21862 but is now: /proc/21859/task/21859 /proc/21859/task/21862 In order for top to show cpu usage of the child pthread you need to type 'H' on top (only recent versions of top has that feature). Otherwise only cpu usage from the first pthread is shown in top. Same goes for 'ps' you need to give it one of the many options to show threads individually. I am beginning to think it is my drive as the problem, it seems to be writing a great deal when I see the problem. Time for backups! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Non Linux but network tech question
Hope no one objects to the non Linux question? My small local library has a web site which is hosted for them. On their site there is a link to bring up their catalog online. The system for this database is located inside the library. Here is the problem. The local ISP they use, Comcast, gives them a free connection, but the address is dynamic. When on that time the address renews and is not the same, they link to the online catalog cannot be reached. Looking it over the link is specified by an IP address. I recall out of my cob webbed memory some sort of work around for such a problem might exist? The library setup is as follows, -cable modem -linksys wireless router -internal systems all on a 192.1.168.xxx address They did not ask me but I am trying to figure out a possible solution to try and cure this minor problem for them. Thanks Sean P.S. Just returned to the list after a long time, so again, I hope that the non Linux part is not a problem? Thanks again all. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Liquid Cooling
hewitt_tech wrote: The one place I've seen a fair bit of information on liquid cooling is a magazine called Maximum PC. They've had lot's of how-to articles and regularly compare the offerings from the vendors who make the kits. -Alex Thanks Alex. I actually figured there would have been a few people here who would be using liquid cooling, but no responses. Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Liquid Cooling
I was thinking of trying out liquid cooling and wanted to ask if anyone here has played with this type of setup? Was it worth the effort, any tips, things to be aware of? Thanks Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Installed)
Well the install was done this past Yesterday, no problems at any point, running great. Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?)
Well Verizon showed up unexpectedly at my door today 9 days early to ask if they could get an early start on the install. I said sure. They were here for about 3 hours. Anyway, the size of the box just to hold the excess fiber here in the house is impressive! Size is about 12x17x7. Most of this box is empty space. There is also second unit 10x8x4, which is the converter from fiber to copper. Last unit is a 3x10x2.5, this is the battery backup unit. I do not see why they cannot combine these units together. At least the second two units, the installer also has to splice wires between these last two units. Last requirement is to have an outlet near for power. He will be back on 2/3 with the router and light things up. Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!
Well my service is scheduled to be installed Feb 3rd. Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?)
Bill Sconce wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:05:21 -0500 Which may be one clue. Please keep us posted what you find out. -Bill I just contacted Verizon to setup service. It is available to me, however there is a little more to the sign up. If you do not have a Verizon phone, which I do not, then the charge for the service goes up an additional $5 dollars a month, and they also require a credit card for direct bill. They will not send you a monthly bill unless you have their phone service. I am not to big on the idea of having things directly billed to my credit card. Told them that I would think about it further. Still might sign up, just need to think on that direct credit card billing. Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?)
I just received a letter from Verizon stating that their FiOS service is available in my corner of NH. Does anyone here use this service and if so, how is your experience with it and their service? Thanks Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?)
Christopher Chisholm wrote: Although I don't have FIOS myself, I know several people with the service, and from what I gather it's pretty amazing. One of my friends has the 15mbps down/ 2mpbs up level and for $50/month nothing I know of can even come close. I haven't heard anything about how their customer service is. I would imagine since all the fiber lines are new (at least, I'm pretty sure all the lines are new) the reliability should be high. Still, that doesn't mean that customer service will be good if you do have problems. Another thing to note is that even though you got that letter, it doesn't mean service is available at your address. I live in Nashua and recieved a similar letter, but when I called about it they said there was not yet service at my address. At least comcast is decent... I feel for anyone out there stuck with adelphia, haha -Chris I realize that the letter does not guarantee it is available. I wanted to get an idea if there service was a good as it sounds before doing my footwork with them. Someone else asked my location. I am in Brentwood NH, borders Exeter. Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?)
Kenny Donahue wrote: They claimed FIOS was available to me in S. Nashua but it wasn't. I just switched to Verizon DSL (got sick of comcast raising the rate any time they felt like it). One question I have is, can you run a webserver with FIOS? Verizon seems to be blocking my webserver (tried different ports no luck) and from my reading, FIOS will also block the same ports. This is from searching the net so take the information with a grain of salt. Anyway, what good is having all this speed if they cripple it. Kenny Here is a URL in the letter that provides info. I have not gone through it in detail yet. www.verizonfios.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
pc parts
Can anyone recommend any local computer stores in the Exeter area to track down some misc parts? Thanks Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement
I recall that Comcast is tight with Microsoft. MS made a big investment in Comcast a few years ago. On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 10:31, Chris wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, at 5:58pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Section 6, subsection g of [Comcast's TOS] states ... I'm pretty sure ATT Broadband's TOS has similar prohibitions on multiplexing their service. They also prohibit a number of other things. At one time, you could read their TOS as prohibiting non-Windows OSes, but I think they changed that. What is even more disturbing from their latest notice to subscribers is the fact that unless you use their update agent, you will not be able to use the att email forwardingThat to me seems wrong, coupled with the fact that the update agent only works on OE, not any other email client... ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: PDA Suggestions
Rich, The Tungsten C and T also have a built in keyboard like the Zaurus. Sean On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 16:47, Sharpe, Richard wrote: Thanks Sean, the Palm Tungsten C and T are now on my list I did see the Palm Zire 71 but did not like it. I also have been recommended the Zaurus. Rich -Original Message- From: R. Sean Hartnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: GNHLUG Posting Address Subject: Re: PDA Suggestions Rich, I just picked up the Palm Tungsten C about a week and a half ago, and feel I have made a good choice. There are several differences between the T and the C, listed below. Features common on both I am not mentioning. Some of the C features out of the box. Comes with 64Mb of memory, Palm OS 5, built in 802.11B, very sharp display, latest versions of VersaMai, Palm browser, and various software that comes with the system. My brother in law has the T, and some of its features out of the box, built in modem/phone, but the phone requires a headset. 16Mb of memory, Palm OS 4.x.x. I also recall it might have Bluetooth built in, and various software that comes with it. I mention the various software because the T and the C do come with some different items. The T and the C are near identical in size, the T just has a small extension due to the built in phone. The best thing is to check out Palm's website, they make a nice list of features side by side. I have not had time to do any playing around with syncing my Tungsten C with Linux yet. Sean On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 07:09, Richard Sharpe wrote: After think about this, I don't think I want a Windose PDA, how are the Palm Zure 71 or the Palm Tungsten T ? in particular the interface to sync with LINUX ? Rich On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 23:18, Richard Sharpe wrote: Alex Thank you very much, this makes it easier to get the iPAQ h1910. Rivh On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 21:34, Hewitt Tech wrote: Check out: http://www.handhelds.org/projects/h1900.html Look's like there is some support with more planned. -Alex - Original Message - From: Richard A Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Erik Price' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'GNHLUG List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: RE: PDA Suggestions Does anyone know anything about the HP iPAQ h1910 pocket pc, does Linux support it ? Thanks Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:35 PM To: Erik Price Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; GNHLUG List Subject: Re: PDA Suggestions In a message dated: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 13:00:58 EDT Erik Price said: (Which I am actually somewhat sad about, because I had an emotional attachment to it -- and it could hold paper documents, stamps, etc, which the Palm cannot.) You just need the right case for your Palm, they have some which have a tri-fold where the Palm is in the center, a notepad on one side, and something else on the other. -- Richard A Sharpe DBA - DB2/Sybase/Oracle/Sqlserver Merrimack, NH 03054 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
IR Port
I was thinking of adding an IR port to my system. Anyone try this and if so, how successful? What equipment and software was used? Thanks Sean ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
